February 25, 2017 
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February 25, 2017 [00:01:14] <fazias> Hurr, general advice for fences... keep that count as low as possible. 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ZZZzzz…)[02:52:53] <linux_gamer> baldurk ty cube helped a lot[02:57:42] *** linux_gamer <linux_gamer!~linux_gam@p5B028136.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:00:30] *** bjz_ <bjz_!~bjz@104.222.140.101> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[03:03:36] *** bjz <bjz!~bjz@104.222.140.77> has joined ##vulkan[03:09:08] *** ratchetfreak_ <ratchetfreak_!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7l5ghd921g7cjw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined ##vulkan[03:09:50] *** ratchetfreak_ <ratchetfreak_!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7l5ghd921g7cjw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:11:10] *** ratchet_freak <ratchet_freak!~ratchetfr@ptr-82s3g7l9r42569r41f4.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:13:39] *** bjz <bjz!~bjz@104.222.140.77> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[15:00:42] *** ImQ009 <ImQ009!~ImQ009@unaffiliated/imq009> has joined ##vulkan[15:03:12] *** bjz <bjz!~bjz@14-201-122-110.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined ##vulkan[15:13:49] *** afl_ext <afl_ext!~afl_ext3@unaffiliated/afl-ext/x-2796036> has joined ##vulkan[15:14:58] <linux_gamer_> exDM69, no ;-)[15:15:12] <linux_gamer_> kicked my own ass out[15:15:31] <ratchet_freak> in that case one of the heaps would be RAM[15:15:47] <ratchet_freak> did you check the flags?[15:16:08] <ratchet_freak> only one would be device local[15:30:46] <linux_gamer_> MemoryType[7].heapindex= 0 MemoryType[7].propertyFlag: {DeviceLocal} MemoryType[8].heapindex= 0 MemoryType[8].propertyFlag: {DeviceLocal} MemoryType[9].heapindex= 1 MemoryType[9].propertyFlag: {HostVisible | HostCoherent} MemoryType[10].heapindex= 1[15:30:46] <linux_gamer_> MemoryType[10].propertyFlag: {HostVisible | HostCoherent | HostCached}[15:31:24] <linux_gamer_> Heap[0].size= 1024 MB Heap[1].size= 2955 MB[15:31:40] <ratchet_freak> sounds about right 1 gig for application use[15:32:14] <ratchet_freak> a gig for stuff like programs, swapchain images and caches[15:32:51] <linux_gamer_> the last gig is used for?[15:33:40] <ratchet_freak> keeping compiled shaders, probably some caches and the swapchain images[15:34:04] <ratchet_freak> the 3 gig heap is your main memory that the GPU can access directly[15:34:52] *** echotangoecho <echotangoecho!~echotango@dhcp-089-098-177-067.chello.nl> has joined ##vulkan[15:35:29] *** bjz <bjz!~bjz@14-201-122-110.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[15:36:02] <ratchet_freak> over specing like that is classic PR bullshit[15:36:45] <ratchet_freak> take the loosest definition of "memory" and use that and round up judicially[15:37:19] <linux_gamer_> strange size ~3gig should have allowed full 4Gig[15:37:52] <ratchet_freak> the driver may not be able to guaranteed the full 4 gig[15:38:23] <ratchet_freak> some is used by other periferals and various kernel things[15:38:48] * linux_gamer_ has 8Gig ram[15:40:07] <linux_gamer_> or is it a 32bit issue[15:40:21] <echotangoecho> doesnt' say much, I have 16 GB, and my non device local heap is ~12.5GB[15:40:22] *** Tiffany <Tiffany!tiffany@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:40:29] <echotangoecho> assuming this is what we're atalking about[15:41:30] <linux_gamer_> so you got way over 50%,[15:41:47] <echotangoecho> what GPU do you have?[15:42:12] <linux_gamer_> dont laugh[15:42:20] <derhass> linux_gamer_: he got ram -4GB, same as you did[15:42:29] 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