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[13:11:40] <Alasdairrr> First post of the day \o/
[13:12:23] <jperkin> xkcd#1258
[13:19:02] <MerlinDMC> ?
[13:19:19] <LnxTx> http://xkcd.com/1258/ :)
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[14:15:59] <Alasdairrr> :-D
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[14:29:56] <CaTtleyA> :q!
[14:31:43] <CaTtleyA> hello, i search the commande on smartOS fot to do 'top' monitoring service
[14:32:01] <CaTtleyA> i'm noob user thank you
[14:32:10] <JT-EC> prstat is the SmartOS equivalent of top
[14:33:52] <CaTtleyA> :thanks you JT-EC
[14:41:46] <CaTtleyA> JT-EC: you known a blog or website for learning SMARTOS
[14:43:57] <JT-EC> There is information all over the place. If you need something specific then best to Google for it. Otherwise there is smartos.org illumos.org dtrace.org as well as a lot of people's personal bolgs
[14:44:01] <JT-EC> *blogs
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[14:56:35] <Alasdairrr> CaTtleyA: http://wiki.smartos.org has a lot of useful info
[14:56:57] <Alasdairrr> Also if you're coming from Linux you might be interested in http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/3rd+Party+Software+Repos
[14:57:09] <Alasdairrr> "EveryCity Userland for SmartOS and Solaris 10" is designed to linux-ise SmartOS zones quite a bit
[14:57:40] <Alasdairrr> There's also the SmartOS mailing list which is pretty good
[14:58:10] <Alasdairrr> If I had considerably more time than I currently have I'd talk to O'Reilly about doing a SmartOS book and
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[14:59:43] <CaTtleyA> the http://wiki.smartos.ord for user advanded
[15:00:30] <Alasdairrr> It is. SmartOS is a bit of a "power-user" distro, for people looking for an advanced UNIX Hypervisor, although SmartOS can do so much more than just be a Hypervisor
[15:00:48] <Alasdairrr> It's not aimed at the beginner market, although I think all of us would like to make things easier for beginners
[15:01:22] <Alasdairrr> If you're looking for a "point and click" supported product, theres Joyent SmartDatacenter
[15:01:42] <Alasdairrr> Or if you're looking to run internet services you could get a managed hosted service, such as from us (www.everycity.co.uk)
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[15:06:22] <CaTtleyA> thank you Alasdairrr . i work with smartOS for learn.
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[17:43:51] <CaTtleyA> 3/quit
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[18:32:38] <elijah-mbp> someone should have sent that cattleya person to unix rosetta stone.
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[20:33:34] <opeth__> jperkin: does the pkgsrc-supplied postfix package have mysql support? if not so, could it?
[20:42:36] <opeth__> jperkin: and I'd like to ask the same about dovecot
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[21:07:59] <jperkin> opeth__: we can't easily enable mysql support, the problem is that postfix is a core package, and whatever version of mysql we link in will be the one which users are then forced to use
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[21:08:25] <jperkin> what we need to do is create a postfix-mysql package which will build against all possible versions and can then replace the core postfix package
[21:09:20] <opeth__> jperkin: were that possible, I'd gladly take it
[21:09:36] <jperkin> it's possible, but it'd be a hack, what we need ideally is proper multi-package support in pkgsrc
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[21:09:57] <opeth__> I just discovered that my prefixed instance won't update
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[21:10:09] <opeth__> I don't need it updated now but in the long run I surely will
[21:10:19] <opeth__> so as good an idea it seemed, it ends up failed :)
[21:10:36] <opeth__> as good an idea as it seemed I mean
[21:11:41] <jperkin> if there's a way to separate out the *sql support into a separate package that would be a clean and reasonable solution, but I haven't looked into the postfix build to know whether it'd work or if it's a compile-time #ifdef or something.
[21:12:02] <opeth__> I have rolled gentoo prefix in a base64 container and made SMF services around what I needed
[21:12:07] <opeth__> but it doesn't seem sustainable
[21:12:36] <opeth__> actually postfix, mysql and saslauthd
[21:12:39] <jperkin> you can do the same with pkgsrc, build your own set of packages with custom PKG_OPTIONS and a particular prefix
[21:13:44] <opeth__> yeah, what drove me there was my actual knowledge of portage whereas around pkgsrc I couldn't yet wrap my head
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[21:14:51] <opeth__> erm, not postfix and mysql but posfix and dovecot, both with mysql support and saslauthd
[21:15:14] <opeth__> anyway you got my point just fine
[21:16:50] <jperkin> yeh, it's definitely something we plan to fix at some point
[21:16:58] <opeth__> I'll have to either resort to learning pkgsrc or fall back to gentoo in kvm
[21:17:17] <opeth__> but if you could give me that option I would surely go down the easier road instead
[21:17:24] <opeth__> :)
[21:18:11] <jperkin> start with http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/pkgsrc-on-smartos-zone-creation-and-basic-builds.html
[21:18:31] <jperkin> set PKG_OPTIONS.postfix+= mysql and PKG_OPTIONS.dovecot+= mysql in mk.conf
[21:18:41] <badboy_> So I got this SmartOS instance in virtualbox now. I added one (bridged) network interface, GZ has a connection to the outside world without problems. promiscuous mode is enabled.
[21:18:54] <jperkin> then bmake deinstall install in mail/postfix and mail/dovecot
[21:19:00] <badboy_> Now I created a base64 VM, and it shutsdown right after it got its ip
[21:19:12] <opeth__> jperkin: thank you very much for these instructions
[21:20:00] <jperkin> np, let me know if anything breaks and I'll fix.
[21:20:33] <opeth__> will do
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[21:24:16] <badboy_> Any idea what could cause this or where I can look?
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[22:05:23] <Guest4445> heyy
[22:06:33] <Guest4445> anyone here
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