September 16, 2013 
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September 16, 2013 [00:06:46] <pringlescan> griffin_: that's a good suggestion, it needs access to private services though[00:06:51] <pringlescan> I used pip to install uwsgi seems to work[00:06:54] <pringlescan> making an SMF[00:07:47] <valera> careful with pip'ing uwsgi - version in pkgsrc is very outdated[00:07:59] <pringlescan> I'm doing a google apps migration and the admin API doesn't do what I need to do so I had to code a very fault tolerant python webdriver selenium script to perform to automate the task for each user[00:08:01] <valera> and this days (last 2-3 years) it supports a lot[00:08:15] <valera> lot of languages I mean[00:08:29] <pringlescan> pip install did the latest version :-)[00:08:37] <valera> its very powerful application server[00:08:59] <valera> pringlescan: it has support for ruby, php, erlang, java, perl - god knows what else[00:09:13] <valera> wide field for problems during configuration[00:10:08] <pringlescan> thanks[00:10:33] *** jsm has quit IRC[00:11:55] <pringlescan> is there a way I can just let it run scripts by calling them like a cgi-bin or do I need to code an application sever for each?[00:11:56] <valera> pringlescan: invest time in its documentation, for me it become single piece of software to deal with everything - ruby, erlang, php, python[00:16:55] <valera> pringlescan: read about wsgi protocol in general and how it works (uwsgi wiki is full of examples)[00:17:21] *** mamash has left #smartos[00:23:10] *** FatDarrel has joined #smartos[00:24:06] *** vizant0 has quit IRC[00:34:55] <pringlescan> valera: I used to have time to read when I was a developer, now I'm just working as in IT trying to plug the holes of a sinking ship and I happen to know how to program >_<, I'm figuring it out, it's only going to be on the LAN, so I should be ok until it breaks[00:37:13] <valera> hahaha, tell me about it :-D thats the reason why I am using uwsgi for everything ... once upon a time I was even sending patches to it :-) I dont have time to dive into all these countless fcgi/scgi/php-fpm ... such a pile of ... fine software :-D[00:38:15] *** vizant0 has joined #smartos[00:44:38] *** roast_ has left #smartos[00:46:16] *** jsm has joined #smartos[00:56:30] *** jsm has quit IRC[01:02:32] *** andy_js has quit IRC[01:04:54] *** jsm has joined #smartos[01:05:45] <khushildep> hey jperkin[01:06:20] *** FatDarrel has quit IRC[01:25:54] *** BlueNeXuS has joined #smartos[01:26:58] *** khushildep has quit IRC[01:27:08] <pringlescan> valera, good point, I could have written this app in node.js faster than I can even get django to work, waste of time[01:50:37] *** szaydel has quit IRC[01:52:16] *** cjones_ has quit IRC[01:53:03] *** cjones_ has joined #smartos[01:56:07] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[02:01:48] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[02:11:04] *** valera has left #smartos[02:14:18] *** pringlescan has quit IRC[02:24:01] *** vaskas has joined #smartos[02:24:06] *** vaskas has left #smartos[02:25:08] *** cjones_ 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<adhi_outlined> where is to download previously smartOS version[04:41:27] <adhi_outlined> ?[04:41:55] <adhi_outlined> according to requirement of project-fifo installation ?[04:43:10] <richlowe> if I recall, the smartos stuff is all in manta, but there's no actual index page to make them easy to find.[04:43:25] <richlowe> so replace whatever URL with the one matching the version and that should work[04:45:10] <adhi_outlined> not working https://us-east.manta.joyent.com//Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/20120906T221231Z/index.html[04:45:14] <adhi_outlined> {"code":"ResourceNotFound","message":"/Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/20120906T221231Z/index.html was not found"}[04:48:33] <adhi_outlined> got it[04:48:34] <adhi_outlined> https://download.joyent.com/pub/iso/[04:48:56] <jesse_> that's older ones[04:50:56] <jesse_> https://us-east.manta.joyent.com//Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/ gives you json that lists the available releases[04:51:13] *** zr0 has quit IRC[04:51:30] <jesse_> https://us-east.manta.joyent.com//Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/20130822T211238Z (for example) gives you json listing the files in that release[04:52:18] <jesse_> for example, https://us-east.manta.joyent.com//Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/20130822T211238Z/smartos-https://us-east.manta.joyent.com//Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/20130822T211238Z.iso[04:52:33] <jesse_> whops[04:52:48] <jesse_> https://us-east.manta.joyent.com//Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/20130822T211238Z/smartos-20130822T211238Z.iso[04:52:51] <adhi_outlined> Great jesse_[04:53:46] <adhi_outlined> thank you[04:58:32] *** zr0 has joined #smartos[05:12:42] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[05:13:36] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[05:19:18] *** ira has quit IRC[05:23:20] *** djun-bb has joined #smartos[05:37:06] *** kevinykchan has joined #smartos[06:31:34] *** nikolam has joined #smartos[06:36:43] *** Teknix has joined #smartos[06:36:43] *** Tekni has quit IRC[06:43:43] *** nikolam has quit IRC[06:48:48] *** nefilim has quit IRC[06:54:51] *** nikolam has joined #smartos[07:23:05] *** yruss972 has joined #smartos[07:24:17] *** yruss972 has quit IRC[07:37:20] *** nikolam has quit IRC[07:38:31] *** yruss972 has joined #smartos[07:48:06] *** FatDarrel has joined #smartos[07:50:33] *** jedahan has joined #smartos[08:10:00] *** kwork has quit IRC[08:15:24] *** PieterB has joined #smartos[08:15:35] <PieterB> hello[08:16:53] <MerlinDMC> morning[08:18:26] <PieterB> does smartos support PCI passtrough?[08:18:44] <MerlinDMC> not currently - nobody did add that feature yet[08:18:51] <PieterB> so I can[08:18:59] *** cjones_ has quit IRC[08:19:07] <MerlinDMC> ofc you can[08:19:12] <PieterB> t emulate a system with HBA cards?[08:19:51] *** jedahan has quit IRC[08:20:00] *** hadret has joined #smartos[08:20:35] <MerlinDMC> I guess if you add the passtrough feature you should be able to add those HBA cards to a kvm vm[08:20:52] <PieterB> mmm[08:22:21] <PieterB> maybe it's possible for me to understand *some* parts of the KVM code, but the Solaris kernel.... :-P[08:22:37] <MerlinDMC> If you really want to start adding that feature rmustacc might be able to give you some more information about where to start[08:24:05] <PieterB> no not really, i was thinking about using SmartOS to debug a linux system that does reboot often[08:24:28] <PieterB> and this system is using our SAN[08:24:56] <PieterB> so I've to use systemtap instead of SmartOS Dtrace now :-([08:25:15] *** tonist has joined #smartos[08:25:37] <MerlinDMC> dtrace will not help you too much there afaik ... because your linux is still running in qemu and dtrace cant introspect the linux kernel[08:33:06] <PieterB> I was told about debugging iscsi on an xp vm that way?[08:33:27] <PieterB> but hba's are totally different that's true :-)[08:33:50] *** nikolam has joined #smartos[08:49:10] *** FatDarrel has quit IRC[08:58:34] *** tonist has quit IRC[09:09:18] *** yruss972 has quit IRC[09:09:52] *** mamash has joined #smartos[09:13:18] *** yruss972 has joined 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khushildep has joined #smartos[11:21:20] *** vizant0 has joined #smartos[11:23:17] *** pringlescan1 has quit IRC[11:36:20] *** cwo has joined #smartos[11:36:20] *** cwo has joined #smartos[11:37:36] <khushildep> Hey all. jperkin - are you about? I'd like to package up cfengine 3.5.2 for pkgsrc properly and commit to WIP but I could use some advice and pointers on how to do that (merge into pkgsrc that is)[11:41:15] <cwo> Does anyone have a HP Microserver Gen8 with SmartOS KVM running? Is this Intel Pentium G2020T working for SmartOS KVM? Very tempting piece of hardware! ;)[11:43:03] <jperkin> khushildep: if you have a working patch then I can test it and get it upstream[11:43:28] *** mikl has quit IRC[11:45:03] <mamash> khushildep: sysutils/cfengine3 is already at 3.4.2, so we should just update that rather than create a new package. patches welcome :)[11:50:12] *** _joes_ has joined #smartos[11:53:44] <yo61> Just cloning git://github.com/joyent/pkgsrc.git - big, isn't it? :)[11:53:56] <jperkin> lots of history[11:54:28] <jperkin> it's not that big as a flat checkout[11:54:45] <yo61> 85% done now[11:55:03] <yo61> Times like this I wish I was on fibre![11:55:55] <jperkin> indeed, am still waiting for my ISP to decide on its fttc pricing[11:56:14] <yo61> Our exchange is enabled, but nothing available to purchase yet[12:00:19] *** chakatz has quit IRC[12:00:23] *** chakatz_ has joined #smartos[12:13:53] *** alcir has joined #smartos[12:16:25] <yo61> git checkout trunk[12:16:27] <yo61> Oops[12:17:13] <yo61> jperkin: in your article [1] you talk about checking out the latest stable branch[12:17:17] <yo61> [1] http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/pkgsrc-on-smartos-zone-creation-and-basic-builds.html[12:17:27] <yo61> I seem to have got trunk[12:17:40] <yo61> That's OK, I want to look at trunk[12:18:00] <jperkin> it's up to you what you get, if you get trunk it'll just mean you likely won't be able to re-use existing binary packages and builds will take a bit longer[12:18:08] <jperkin> hold off for a couple of minutes though, I'm about to merge in the latest trunk[12:18:09] <yo61> But how would I get, eg. 2013Q2 or 2013Q3 ?[12:18:17] <jperkin> checkout joyent/release/2013Q3[12:18:25] <jperkin> well, Q2, Q3 isn't out yet (~2 weeks)[12:18:31] <yo61> How do I list what's available?[12:18:45] <jperkin> git branch -a[12:18:54] <yo61> Aaah, thanks[12:19:37] <yo61> I'll await your signal, and will update[12:19:48] <jperkin> the ones in the root (i.e. origin/pkgsrc_2013Q2) are tracking branches of upstream, so do not have any of our changes[12:20:38] <jperkin> origin/joyent/feature/* are branches for specific feature development, and then we merge the upstream branch + selected feature branches into joyent/release/*[12:20:45] <yo61> Ah, OK, so I'm on origin/trunk currently[12:21:03] <jperkin> and release/* are what our packages are built from[12:21:05] <yo61> I'll checkout joyent/release/trunk when you're done merging[12:22:08] <jperkin> the thing to note about release/trunk is that it includes multiarch by default, whereas our quarterly branches do not (they instead have e.g. 2013Q2_multiarch as a separate multiarch-enabled branch)[12:23:23] <yo61> Does that have any material impact on me?[12:28:27] <jperkin> you may run into some fallout if you don't enable multiarch, it's not well tested atm[12:28:33] <yo61> OK[12:28:44] <jperkin> however I will fix any issues you run into very quickly ;)[12:28:54] <yo61> heh[12:30:43] <yo61> So, no BINPKG_SITES if using trunk?[12:31:03] <jperkin> well, you can set it to 2013Q2, but it's likely that most packages will have been updated since then so will need a rebuild anyway[12:31:29] <yo61> Ah, OK.[12:33:02] <yo61> So, fallen at first hurdle :)[12:33:11] <yo61> "First, install the pkgtools/url2pkg package"[12:33:31] <jperkin> ok trunk is updated, it was quite a large push so I can't guarantee that some bits aren't broken - we'll get a bulk build report of it later today.[12:33:58] <jperkin> as 2013Q3 is now in freeze I will be maintaining trunk quite heavily for the next two weeks though, so appreciate any feedback so that we can get 2013Q3 as good as possible.[12:34:36] <yo61> I did: cd pkgtools/url2pkg ; bmake install[12:34:59] <yo61> /usr/bin/bash: /usr/pkg/sbin/pkg_info: No such file or directory[12:35:09] <yo61> I guess I need to install something else first?[12:35:35] <jperkin> what image are you running? did you unpack any other bootstrap first?[12:35:53] <yo61> Am using 13.2.2, no bootstrap[12:36:06] <jperkin> ok, have you made any changes to /opt/local/etc/mk.conf ?[12:36:12] <jperkin> it's as if LOCALBASE has been removed[12:36:25] <yo61> I used the one you list in http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/pkgsrc-on-smartos-zone-creation-and-basic-builds.html[12:36:44] <jperkin> ok, that stuff is to be appended, not replace the existing file ;)[12:36:49] <yo61> heh[12:36:53] <jperkin> the stuff in there is important, as it tells pkgsrc where to find things[12:37:07] <jperkin> I will make it clearer in that post..[12:37:45] <yo61> Inside the .ifdef ? Or does it not matter?[12:38:38] *** estibi has joined #smartos[12:38:57] <jperkin> it doesn't really matter, on NetBSD platforms you can share mk.conf between pkgsrc and src, which is all that ifdef is protecting.[12:39:03] <yo61> k[12:39:17] <jperkin> I might just remove it to avoid confusion[12:44:54] <yo61> Any guide to categorisation ?[12:45:48] <yo61> ie. where to put elasticsearch?[12:47:52] <jperkin> is a tricky one, my hunch would be 'devel'[12:52:30] <yo61> I plumped for www[12:52:36] <yo61> I guess I can always change it[12:52:57] <jperkin> you can change CATEGORIES, you can't change location[12:53:09] <jperkin> for now it'll probably go in wip or joyent anyway..[12:55:31] <yo61> How do you mean I can't change location?[12:55:35] <jperkin> btw pull trunk again, I fixed a merge botch which affects package installation[12:55:57] <jperkin> once a package is imported it's a pain to move it physically in the repo[12:57:01] <yo61> OK[13:00:32] <yo61> So this is a java app, and doesn't need compiling/building/etc[13:00:56] *** wolfeidau has quit IRC[13:01:03] *** wolfeidau has joined #smartos[13:02:10] <yo61> However, there is no Makefile so the bmake fails[13:02:13] *** chakatz_ has quit IRC[13:02:26] <jperkin> ok, a general rule in pkgsrc dev is to find a package similar to what you're working on to see what it does, then copy all the good bits (and fix up any bad bits ;)[13:02:30] *** chakatz has joined #smartos[13:02:34] <yo61> Should I create a patch to add a Makefile that just does the install?[13:02:36] <yo61> Ah, OK[13:03:01] <jperkin> as it's a java program it will need to include the java infrastructure, so I'd start with a "git grep java-vm -- '*/Makefile*'" and take a look at some ways of packaging them up[13:03:24] <jperkin> (knowing what to grep for just comes with experience)[13:03:56] <yo61> ok[13:04:09] <jperkin> audio/applerecords is pretty simple and is a NO_BUILD package, so copying that will handle the build/install etc targets[13:04:33] <yo61> Am looking at jenkins[13:05:24] <jperkin> ok yep, looks good too[13:05:46] <jperkin> for an explanation of the USE_JAVA etc stuff, have a read of mk/java-vm.mk[13:05:55] <yo61> OK, thanks[13:16:15] *** estibi has quit IRC[13:21:28] *** tonist has quit IRC[13:33:42] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[13:36:59] *** backjlack has joined #smartos[13:37:48] <yo61> How do I do a simple "copy everything"?[13:39:12] <jperkin> you could USE_TOOLS+= pax and use pax -rw, there are some examples..[13:40:32] <yo61> It's like learning RPM spec file commands all over again! :)[13:40:52] <jperkin> yeh, except this time it's portable ;)[13:48:23] <yo61> how do I handle checksums?[13:48:52] <jperkin> rm distinfo; bmake mdi[13:49:26] <jperkin> which is just a shorter alias for makedistinfo[13:51:59] *** yruss972 has quit IRC[13:53:01] <yo61> cool[13:58:09] *** chakatz has quit IRC[14:03:08] <yo61> pkg_add: Invalid package name elasticsearch[14:03:48] <jperkin> you need a version number[14:04:02] <yo61> Ah[14:04:26] <yo61> Does distname need to have the version no. in too?[14:05:03] <jperkin> distname is the name of the file downloaded from the original site[14:05:12] <yo61> gotcha[14:05:13] <jperkin> if that doesn't include a version number, first thing to do is shoot the devs responsible[14:05:58] <jperkin> if DISTNAME and the package name diverge, you'll need to set PKGNAME directly, usually by basing it on DISTNAME, e.g. PKGNAME=${DISTNAME}-20130916 or something[14:06:13] <jperkin> the problem with version-less distfiles is that as soon as they update upstream, the checksum will break[14:07:16] <yo61> Is it normal to install to /opt/local/share/$name-$version ?[14:07:21] <jperkin> hopefully all this NSA stuff will start to teach the github generation about release management and provenance of distfiles ;)[14:07:37] <yo61> Or /opt/local/share/$name ?[14:08:17] <jperkin> doesn't really matter, avoiding the $version will help reduce the diffs required when you update to a newer release[14:08:29] <jperkin> but print-PLIST handles that stuff anyway, so...[14:11:06] <yo61> Ah yes - I had to regenerate cos I changed the Makefile[14:11:52] <yo61> pkg_info -N lists openjdk7-1.7.21nb3 twice[14:11:58] <yo61> Is that normal/OK ?[14:13:19] <jperkin> yeh, it's likely just mis-match dependencies, try -n to see if they are different versions.[14:13:27] *** tonist has joined #smartos[14:13:45] <yo61> Requires:[14:13:45] <yo61> openjdk7-[0-9]*[14:13:45] <yo61> openjdk7>=1.7.0.72.20090924[14:14:00] <jperkin> right[14:14:19] <jperkin> arguably we should uniq'ify -N[14:14:34] <yo61> pkglint => looks fine.[14:15:01] <yo61> Next step: SMF manifests, etc.[14:16:15] <yo61> after lunch.[14:16:36] <jperkin> I'll need a few moments to double check where I am with the SMF merge anyway ;)[14:16:46] <jperkin> but with trunk you should be able to use my new bits[14:17:04] <yo61> Any docs on general approach ?[14:18:58] <jperkin> nothing easy to follow yet, but if you want to dive in then my proposal mail explains things from an infrastructure PoV and an example conversion of security/clamav - http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2013/09/03/msg011877.html[14:19:29] <jperkin> there are a couple of changes since then though, let's work through it when you get back..[14:19:44] <yo61> Also, for this install, I've just copied the entire tree to /opt/local/share/elasticsearch. Is that a valid approach ?[14:20:52] <jperkin> I guess, yeh. java stuff is a bit funny.[14:23:08] *** yruss972 has joined #smartos[14:24:51] <yo61> That's one way to describe it[14:25:11] *** yruss972_ has joined #smartos[14:25:46] <jperkin> I've given up hating on java, no point raising the blood pressure unnecessarily[14:26:02] <yo61> Yeah, good strategy[14:26:35] *** yruss972 has quit IRC[14:31:40] *** yruss972_ has quit IRC[14:32:57] <yo61> Are the INSTALL_* options listed/documented somewhere ?[14:33:04] *** Shadow_aok has joined #smartos[14:33:08] <Shadow_aok> hello[14:37:20] <jperkin> you mean e.g. INSTALL_DATA? they are just variants on $INSTALL, and are defined in mk/bsd.pkg.mk[14:37:27] <yo61> k[14:37:52] <yo61> Looks like I need something to make the contents of bin/ executable[14:38:21] <jperkin> if it's a binary then INSTALL_PROGRAM, else INSTALL_SCRIPT[14:39:06] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[14:39:27] <jperkin> if it's something which is already "installed" with pax then you can just ${CHMOD} +x in post-install or so.[14:40:03] *** Shadow_aok has quit IRC[14:40:25] <yo61> Hmm, print-PLIST not working[14:40:41] <jperkin> you need to do a stage-install first[14:40:53] <yo61> Ah, OK[14:50:47] *** mamash has left #smartos[14:52:27] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[14:55:23] <yo61> Well, it appears to install and run, which is a good start[15:00:33] *** djun-bb has quit IRC[15:01:28] *** yruss972 has joined #smartos[15:04:16] <yo61> " also, note, if you are running on joynet, the zones thingy still cause ES to read the number of[15:04:19] <yo61> proc to be the host, not the VM, so our sizing based on procs ends up being over allocated"[15:04:49] <yo61> Odd. /win 22[15:04:51] <yo61> Oops[15:05:21] <yo61> I'm surprised it is possible to read no. of host cores from a zone[15:09:45] *** yruss972_ has joined #smartos[15:09:50] *** yruss972 has quit IRC[15:10:58] *** chakatz has joined #smartos[15:12:21] <jperkin> I can't speak to the implementation, but it doesn't make any sense to restrict that information, but it does present a different challenge if trying to auto-scale based on that number[15:14:29] <jperkin> my understanding (I really should dig into this stuff at some point) is that you have a cap, but if there are spare resources on the host then you get access to them dynamically, only being reduced back down to your cap when there is contention.[15:27:30] *** Eimann has quit IRC[15:31:17] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[15:32:11] *** Eimann has joined #smartos[15:34:29] <yo61> jperkin: you mentioned a couple of changes to the smf thing and working through them?[15:38:17] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #smartos[15:46:24] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[15:55:00] *** cwo has quit IRC[15:56:12] *** jim80net has joined #smartos[16:01:10] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[16:02:40] *** W0rmDr1nk has joined #smartos[16:03:06] *** hadret has quit IRC[16:05:33] *** cjones_ has joined #smartos[16:06:12] <yo61> Also, another question about packaging - is there any concept of package release on top of package version?[16:09:30] *** neophenix has joined #smartos[16:11:30] *** porkotron has quit IRC[16:11:59] <jperkin> yes, PKGREVISION, start at 1 and go up, that will append 'nb1' to the package name which has precedence[16:12:14] <jperkin> I'll come back to the smf bits a little later..[16:13:40] <yo61> ok[16:14:02] *** khushildep has quit IRC[16:14:18] <yo61> Is that version-aware, ie. is 10 > 2 ?[16:14:24] <jperkin> yes[16:14:27] <yo61> k[16:14:37] <yo61> I'm heading out on school run shortly[16:14:53] <jperkin> but only use it when the binary package changes, not for minor tweaks.[16:15:04] <yo61> OK[16:23:48] <yo61> FYI, my wip is here: https://github.com/robinbowes/pkgsrc-elasticsearch[16:36:24] *** mamash has joined #smartos[16:37:54] *** mikl has joined #smartos[16:42:11] *** nefilim has joined #smartos[16:53:46] *** julianduque has joined #smartos[16:56:01] *** mary5030 has joined #smartos[16:58:50] *** FatDarrel has joined 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apps?[17:24:09] <yo61> Actually, just one question :)[17:24:40] <jperkin> it should already be set via java-vm.mk[17:25:07] <jperkin> and PKG_JAVA_HOME is exported by that file if you wish to hardcode it in a startup script or so.[17:25:41] <yo61> Ah, OK - that's what I was looking for[17:25:52] <mnaser> so for a smartos host that is running compression, faster cpus or more cores?[17:26:18] <jperkin> btw, package looks pretty good for a first effort, just a few minor tweaks I'd make: get rid of DIST_SUBDIR, set ESDIR or something to share/elasticsearch and then do INSTALLATION_DIRS= ${ESDIR}/bin ${ESDIR}/config ${ESDIR}/lib/sigar, that will remove the need for all the INSTALL_DATA -d lines.[17:26:21] <yo61> The elasticsearch startup needs JAVA_HOME setting[17:26:33] <mnaser> i could have X5570 ~3ghz quad vs L5640 six-core (~ghz)[17:26:39] <mnaser> *~2ghz[17:26:40] <jperkin> INSTALLATION_DIRS works like mkdir -p so no need to specify intermediate directories[17:27:08] <jperkin> also there seems no need to have a separate VERSION variable, just roll it into DISTNAME[17:27:51] *** dap has joined #smartos[17:28:42] <jperkin> another thing to check is whether you really need java7 or if 6 works too, we try to make dependencies as inclusive as possible.[17:30:37] <yo61> I did the version thing to use elsewhere but didn't need it[17:31:05] *** FatDarrel has quit IRC[17:31:20] <yo61> What do you mean about INSTALLATION_DIRS?[17:31:27] *** chorrell has joined #smartos[17:32:15] <jperkin> you were creating e.g. share/elasticsearch and then share/elasticsearch/bin, there's no need for the first one[17:32:27] <yo61> OK[17:33:19] <jperkin> INSTALLATION_DIRS is basically a shorthand way of pre-creating the directories, and is preferable to doing them manually in do-install[17:33:39] <yo61> Ah, OK, so I can list all the dirs in there[17:33:43] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[17:33:59] *** ryancnelson has left #smartos[17:34:01] <yo61> Can I use wildcards, something like, eg. foo/{bar,baz}[17:34:20] <yo61> Or would I use foo/bar,foo/baz ?[17:34:39] *** alcir has quit IRC[17:34:46] <jperkin> that should work[17:35:20] <yo61> which one? :)[17:35:58] <jperkin> the first[17:37:40] <jperkin> though I can't see any prior use of that glob, so perhaps there are issues with doing so[17:37:46] *** swaagie is now known as swaagie[food][17:37:52] *** tbatchelli_m has quit IRC[17:38:44] *** _joes_ has quit IRC[17:39:02] <yofuh> /opt/pkg-2013Q1/pkgsrc/x11/Xrender/work/.buildlink/include/X11/extensions/render.h:29:23: fatal error: X11/Xdefs.h: No such file or directory[17:39:19] <yofuh> Xrender might miss a dependency[17:40:10] <yofuh> xproto it seems[17:40:18] <jperkin> are you sure X11_TYPE=modular?[17:40:34] <yofuh> it that is default, yes[17:40:57] <yo61> PKG_JVM_DEFAULT seems to be /opt/local/bin/openjdk7[17:40:59] <yofuh> actually i did not really care for X, just build the git metapackage[17:41:00] <yo61> Er[17:41:07] *** Xenith has joined #smartos[17:41:28] *** tonist has joined #smartos[17:41:41] <yo61> the default java package appears to be openjdk7[17:42:52] <jperkin> it depends on whether it can find /usr/openwin/include/X11/X.h, if you don't want X then it's easiest to PKG_DEFAULT_OPTIONS+= -x11[17:43:04] <jperkin> the default on SunOS 5.11 is openjdk7, yeh[17:43:15] <jperkin> but we still provide java6 packages[17:46:27] <yofuh> jperkin: its full blown s10, so /usr/openwin/include/X11/X.h is there. shouln't it just ignore that stuff when PREFER_PKGSRC=yes os set?[17:47:20] *** vizant0 has quit IRC[17:47:27] <jperkin> X11_TYPE is unrelated to PREFER_PKGSRC, though eventually it would make sense to make it fall under that.[17:47:33] *** vizant0 has joined #smartos[17:47:46] <richlowe> if Þou ist uſing ſolaris 10, mayhaps thou ſhould upgrade.[17:48:54] <yofuh> richlowe: customer decision, not my system i'm working on[17:49:19] <jperkin> X11_TYPE=native has been pretty broken for years on solaris, iirc the newer non-openwin stuff was 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Has anybody tried to run the Perl Kstat module in SmartOS?[18:31:11] <wesolows> You cannot.[18:31:21] <wesolows> or rather, you must use the one from CPAN, not the platform's.[18:31:35] <izaki> I am trying...[18:31:38] <izaki> Cpan[18:32:14] *** ImTheBitch has joined #smartos[18:32:18] <izaki> I wonder if https://github.com/joyent/illumos-joyent/tree/master/usr/src/cmd/perl/contrib/Sun/Solaris/Kstat works...[18:32:44] <izaki> But the cpan one refuses to run[18:33:40] <richlowe> Yeah, use the system one.[18:34:42] <richlowe> "This Release: Solaris-0.05a 02 Nov 1999"[18:35:19] <richlowe> and seemingly failing all its tests.[18:35:29] <richlowe> so the cpan one is probably entirely busted.[18:35:38] <izaki> yup[18:36:09] <izaki> well... the code on the repo is 8 years old[18:37:55] *** jsm has quit IRC[18:38:16] *** jsm has joined #smartos[18:38:22] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[18:39:12] <richlowe> still 6 years younger than the broken code on cpan[18:39:21] <izaki> Good bet![18:39:24] <richlowe> and we used the system Kstat module to implement kstat(1M) until really very recently.[18:39:35] <richlowe> so if it broke, it broke in the last few months.[18:40:46] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[18:40:57] *** leecallen has joined #smartos[18:41:23] *** jsm has quit IRC[18:42:08] *** jsm has joined #smartos[18:43:24] *** vizant0 has joined #smartos[18:44:35] *** W0rmDr1nk has quit IRC[18:45:18] *** kevinykchan has joined #smartos[18:45:50] *** julianduque has quit IRC[18:45:59] *** tonist has joined #smartos[18:46:48] *** kevinykchan has quit IRC[18:47:12] <wesolows> you cannot use the system one on SmartOS, however. So the solution here would seem to be to update CPAN's with the one from ON.[18:52:22] *** tbatchelli_m has quit IRC[18:56:42] <richlowe> wesolows: oh, I forgot about the perl version stuff :\[18:57:10] <wesolows> yep[18:57:41] <wesolows> it's probably not too hard to grab the source out of ON and rebuild it for pkgsrc though.[18:57:49] <richlowe> I want to say "trivial"[18:57:51] <richlowe> but it's perl stuff[18:58:20] <jperkin> perl stuff is handled pretty easily, more-so if it's on cpan and packaged in the normal way[18:58:21] <richlowe> there used to be the infrastructure in cmd/perl to build the stuff that alanbur put on cpan[18:58:25] <richlowe> suitably outdated, of course.[18:58:37] <izaki> Sounds like tons of fun[18:58:38] <richlowe> I think e^ipi may have (rightly) nuked that too, though.[18:58:42] <wesolows> we actually don't want people using the platform perl for anything anyway.[18:58:50] <izaki> Perl shouldn't be complitated to fix....[18:58:57] <wesolows> then they end up with binary modules that get broken by a platform upgrade.[18:58:57] <izaki> How come that?[18:59:05] <izaki> Ah[18:59:10] <richlowe> jperkin: getting the ON-y modules into your pkgsrc would be worthwhile.[18:59:30] <wesolows> we desperately seek to provide a stable platform interface, so that providers/operators can upgrade at will without ever breaking a customer program.[18:59:47] <wesolows> perl doesn't play well there (neither does node) which is why it's not exposed.[19:02:22] *** mamash has left #smartos[19:02:25] *** tbatchelli_m has joined #smartos[19:03:22] *** vizant0 has quit IRC[19:04:40] *** kevinykchan has joined #smartos[19:08:54] <yo61> I'm packaging elasticsearch. Am I right in thinking that I need to create a run script suitable for other platforms as well as an SMF manifest for SmartOS ?[19:10:03] <jperkin> not necessarily, but it would be nice - and you'd only need to provide an rc.d script for {Free,Net}BSD[19:11:53] <yo61> I have nothing to test on.[19:12:08] <yo61> I suppose I could fire up a *BSD VM[19:12:12] <jperkin> you could put it into pkgsrc-wip and then get someone else to do that bit for you ;)[19:12:18] <yo61> I could indeed[19:12:32] <yo61> How would I do that?[19:12:45] <jperkin> follow the instructions on http://pkgsrc-wip.sourceforge.net/[19:12:47] *** swaagie[food] is now known as swaagie[19:12:52] <yo61> *reading[19:13:05] <jperkin> anyone can get involved in wip[19:13:33] <yo61> cvs - seriously?[19:13:54] <jperkin> yeh[19:14:40] <yofuh> wait till you see gnats :p[19:14:49] *** kevinykchan has quit IRC[19:17:48] *** estibi has joined #smartos[19:19:18] <yo61> which is the cvs pkg in pkgsrc?[19:19:42] *** tbatchelli_m has quit IRC[19:20:00] <yo61> Hmm, I don't see cvs in trunk[19:20:28] <rmustacc> I have a cvs package in pkgin avail[19:20:37] <yo61> Yeah, me too[19:20:58] <yo61> But not in my pkgsrc tree[19:22:03] <jperkin> devel/scmcvs[19:22:10] <yo61> ta[19:22:17] <jperkin> it needs to have the 'scm' prefix so it doesn't conflict with the devel/CVS directory[19:22:25] <yo61> Ah, of course.[19:26:51] *** julianduque has joined #smartos[19:27:03] *** wramthun has joined #smartos[19:28:51] *** julian_duque has joined #smartos[19:29:34] *** julianduque has quit IRC[19:29:39] *** julian_duque is now known as julianduque[19:30:06] <yo61> Do I need adding to the project to be able to check it out with my SF acocunt?[19:30:14] <yo61> I get this when I try: https://gist.github.com/robinbowes/6583813[19:32:30] *** wolstena has joined #smartos[19:35:11] *** vizant0 has joined #smartos[19:38:45] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[19:39:00] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[19:43:20] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[19:43:31] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[19:46:42] *** izaki has quit IRC[19:48:48] *** chorrell has quit IRC[19:48:58] *** Tekni has quit IRC[19:49:19] *** Tekni has joined #smartos[19:52:46] *** Alek has joined #smartos[19:52:52] *** bixu has joined #smartos[19:54:51] *** pringlescan has joined #smartos[19:57:30] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[19:57:57] *** daleg has joined #smartos[19:58:20] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[19:58:30] *** jaimef_ has quit IRC[19:59:54] *** mamash has joined #smartos[20:02:32] *** jaimef has joined #smartos[20:06:06] *** pringlescan has quit IRC[20:08:56] *** pringlescan has joined #smartos[20:11:09] *** ryancnelson has joined #smartos[20:11:57] *** noahmehl_ has joined #smartos[20:12:30] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[20:12:30] *** noahmehl_ is now known as noahmehl[20:13:42] *** pringlescan has quit IRC[20:18:50] <bixu> Any pkgsrc gurus on right now?[20:18:52] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[20:18:58] *** noahmehl_ has joined #smartos[20:20:40] *** ryancnelson has left #smartos[20:27:01] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[20:27:30] *** noahmehl_ has quit IRC[20:31:13] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[20:31:43] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[20:34:05] <mamash> bixu: what's up?[20:35:09] *** patrickmslattery has joined #smartos[20:35:26] <bixu> I'm having trouble getting 'pkgin search' to work with my pkg_summary.gz file.[20:36:40] *** Alek has quit IRC[20:45:02] *** mamash has left #smartos[20:47:50] *** daleg_ has joined #smartos[20:49:02] *** daleg has quit IRC[20:49:03] *** daleg_ is now known as daleg[20:49:45] *** mamash has joined #smartos[20:50:16] <mamash> bixu: do you have a single repository in repositories.conf only?[20:50:44] <bixu> I have two.[20:50:49] *** nikolam has quit IRC[20:50:53] <mamash> ok. pkgin doesn't support multiple repositories[20:50:56] <bixu> One is the Joyent one, the other is one I'm building.[20:51:04] <bixu> Oh...[20:51:20] <bixu> Man, that really sucks.[20:51:50] <mamash> it was on imil's "summer of code" list this year, but i never saw any output of that, so not sure if he ever got to it at all[20:51:59] <bixu> Right.[20:52:15] <bixu> I guess I can hard-code paths to packages and use pkg_add?[20:52:26] <mamash> yeah that works[20:52:30] <bixu> 'cause pkg_add supports URLs, IIRC.[20:52:36] <bixu> Okay - 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Trying to start with DNS, but for the life of me can't find the server package in 'pkgin.' Anyone happen to know what it's called?[21:34:31] *** noahmehl has joined #smartos[21:36:38] <nahamu> altf2o: "bind" perhaps?[21:37:06] *** enmand has quit IRC[21:37:37] *** enmand has joined #smartos[21:38:47] <altf2o> I've tried 'bind', 'bind9', 'named' etc... in my 'pkgin search -pr ...' commands and it's giving a list of stuff from text to ruby, to Perl packages, but not actual 'bind server'[21:39:18] <griffin_> something isnt right then, im seeing a few different bind versions[21:40:50] <altf2o> odd indeed. I'm in a Joyent 'Java' Zone, which has worked great thus far. Even 'pkgin update' shows 'database for http://pkgsrc.joyent.com/packages/SmartOS/2013Q1/x86_64/All is up-to-date'[21:41:19] <altf2o> perhaps I'll try to spin up a clean Zone and see what I get.[21:45:32] <yofuh> altf2o: the package is siple named bind, without 9 or server or whatever, just bind[21:55:12] <altf2o> Strange, these are the only packages I get: http://pastebin.com/yMj04pri , same thing on any other Zone's I have up.[21:55:54] <yo61> pkgin in bind works for me[21:57:22] <griffin_> shows up when i do pkgin search bind[21:57:27] <griffin_> but i have no idea what -pr do[21:58:58] *** julianduque has quit IRC[22:00:03] <altf2o> *doh* a case of fumbling over my own feet. Sorry all, '-pr' are from OpenIndiana using 'pkg' not 'pkgin'. Doing just the 'pkgin search bind' I do indeed see: bind-9.9.2p12[22:01:42] *** julianduque has joined #smartos[22:05:11] *** mamash has left #smartos[22:05:48] <yofuh> griffin_: if you look at the pastebin results, it seems obvious that the search indeed found every package that has "-pr" in its name or description, -proxy, -protocol and -printer ;)[22:07:30] <yo61> What's the "right" way to pass parameters/set env vars for an SMF service?[22:08:10] <yofuh> that are two questions, which is the one you want an answer for?[22:08:21] *** pringlescan has quit IRC[22:09:25] <yo61> Well...[22:10:30] <yofuh> really that are two completely different things in smf[22:10:47] <yo61> The command to start elasticsearch is pretty simple. Basically just: /path/to/elasticsearch -f[22:10:57] <yofuh> there is a mechanism to set env vars and there is no for parameters, as they are just part of the string[22:11:28] <griffin_> you can specific a <method_environment>[22:11:31] <yofuh> so if you just want to execute "/path/to/elasticsearch -f" just do that[22:12:04] <yo61> I'd like to give the user of the service the option to set additional env. varsa[22:12:09] <griffin_> <method_environment><envar name="BLAH" vlaue="xxx" /></method_context> as a child of the <*_method>[22:12:41] <griffin_> you can see i here in the couchdb recipe: http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/SMF+Manifest+Recipes[22:13:30] <yo61> Yes, I pulled similar from the tomcat recipe[22:15:14] <yo61> I guess I need to write a simple wrapper script that sources some conf. file so additional params can be set without hacking the service manifst[22:16:18] <yo61> ...which will finish with "exec /path/to/elasticsearch -f"[22:19:45] <yofuh> if you ask me, configuration (other than which user, privilege set a service has and how to start it) doesn't belong into the smf and almost every wrapper script approach is wrong. however, that is just a personal opinion and others, including snoracle, think different[22:20:58] <yo61> OK, so what would you suggest ?[22:22:50] <yofuh> i do not know what problem you want to solve, what are users expected to configure? if the service need specific parameters for each instance, it might be a better way to provide a script that generates an service instance and imports it to the smf[22:24:39] <yo61> I would expect an admin setting up an elasticsearch instance would want to configure things like JVM heapsize, etc.[22:25:00] *** jaimef has quit IRC[22:25:01] <yo61> Once the jvm is started there's an elasticsearch.yml file to configure the app[22:25:30] <yofuh> sounds rather somecing for a config file to me, why putting it into smf?[22:25:46] <yo61> I didn't say I wanted to put it in SMF[22:25:59] <yo61> I'm just looking for the "right" way to do it on SmartOS[22:26:14] <yo61> See, I'm more familiar with linux, specifrically Redhat/CentOS[22:26:32] *** jaimef has joined #smartos[22:26:43] <yo61> And there is a mechanism to do that sort of thing that all services use.[22:27:02] <yofuh> well, i don't know if there is a "right smartos way", at least i don't know any specification of such[22:27:10] *** pringlescan has joined #smartos[22:27:39] <rmustacc> yo61: Do you specify the elasticsearch.yml for the application to use as part of the command line?[22:27:58] <yo61> I think I'll write a wrapper that sources $ES_HOME/config/elasticsearch.conf before execing $ES_HOME/bin/elasticsearch -f[22:28:06] <yo61> rmustacc: no[22:28:12] <yofuh> you might stick with "the right oracle way" that would indeed tell to stuff everything into smf and execute svcprop -p at least 30 times per service on every startup[22:28:35] <yofuh> not mention the sleep[22:28:47] *** wolstena has quit IRC[22:29:10] <rmustacc> yo61: Then I would just make ES_HOME a parameter for the start method.[22:29:29] <rmustacc> And have the default instance created with that pointing to the default place for ES_HOME.[22:29:42] <rmustacc> Which solves the 95% problem and gives people most of what they expect.[22:29:47] <rmustacc> eg. edit the conf file.[22:30:12] <yo61> rmustacc: It works out ES_HOME from the location of the binary, I think[22:32:49] <yo61> Aha, reading the script, it is possible to do something like this: ES_INCLUDE=/path/to/in.sh /path/to/elasticsearch -f[22:33:41] <yofuh> yo61: ES_INCLUDE would rather fit into <method_environment> if you ask me[22:33:44] <yo61> So, I can set that in the manifest[22:33:50] <yo61> Yup[22:39:09] *** wolstena has joined #smartos[22:43:41] *** tbatchelli_m has joined #smartos[22:49:56] *** miine has joined #smartos[22:50:22] *** bens1 has quit IRC[22:50:42] <leecallen> I can mount a CD/DVD in the GZ (and only in the GZ, I think). How can I share it with an OS zone?[22:51:59] <nahamu> copy the bits, possibly ad-hoc lofs mount it in (be careful!!!)[22:52:29] *** tonist has quit IRC[22:52:33] <leecallen> by 'copy the bits' do you mean copy the image of the CD/DVD off somewhere?[22:52:53] *** daleg has quit IRC[22:59:03] *** tbatchelli_m has quit IRC[23:00:27] *** mgls has quit IRC[23:00:46] *** mgls has joined #smartos[23:09:03] *** sebasp_ has quit IRC[23:09:08] *** sebasp has quit IRC[23:11:41] *** pringlescan1 has joined #smartos[23:11:41] *** pringlescan has quit IRC[23:12:36] *** tbatchelli_m has joined #smartos[23:12:48] *** tbatchelli_m has quit IRC[23:13:24] *** tbatchelli_m has joined #smartos[23:14:35] <paul_lamb> has anyone seen on opensource project that puts and s3 style interface on a zfs share? or something like joyent's rest api without the jobs[23:14:49] *** vizant0 has quit IRC[23:14:52] <paul_lamb> http put, list and delete interface with auth[23:15:43] *** mgls has quit IRC[23:17:12] <yofuh> paul_lamb: you mean webdav?[23:17:39] <paul_lamb> lol, basically[23:20:56] *** vizant0 has joined #smartos[23:21:28] *** noahmehl has quit IRC[23:32:55] *** estibi has quit IRC[23:48:42] *** volci has quit IRC[23:51:56] *** neophenix has quit IRC[23:53:23] *** paul_lamb has quit IRC[23:58:14] *** vizant0 has quit IRC