September 3, 2013 
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September 3, 2013 [00:03:31] *** groundwater has joined #smartos[00:06:14] *** Fuzai_ has joined #smartos[00:06:33] *** Fuzai has quit IRC[00:22:54] *** backjlack has quit IRC[00:23:12] *** szaydel has quit IRC[00:28:39] <richlowe> People pinging LeftWing and redmine not broken, what in the world?[00:37:37] *** cjones_ has quit IRC[00:38:06] *** cjones_ has joined #smartos[00:44:57] <jelmd> :)[00:46:07] *** axonpoet has joined #smartos[00:59:02] *** zr0 has left #smartos[01:05:12] *** tbatchelli_m has quit IRC[01:05:18] *** jgrafton has quit IRC[01:06:05] *** jgrafton has joined #smartos[01:14:08] *** cjones_ has quit IRC[01:14:13] *** cjones__ has joined #smartos[01:15:57] *** cjones__ has quit IRC[01:16:03] *** cjones_ has joined #smartos[01:20:49] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[01:21:34] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[01:52:56] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[02:00:58] *** cjones_ has quit IRC[02:02:47] *** cjones_ has joined #smartos[02:19:09] *** zr0 has joined #smartos[02:19:14] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[02:23:42] *** axonpoet has quit IRC[03:06:09] *** nikolam has quit IRC[03:10:05] *** nikolam has joined #smartos[03:15:59] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[03:28:11] *** axonpoet has joined #smartos[03:35:33] *** prasm has quit IRC[03:36:28] *** prasm has joined #smartos[03:46:01] *** axonpoet has quit IRC[04:15:05] *** cjones_ has quit IRC[04:15:10] *** cjones__ has joined #smartos[04:17:02] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[04:38:35] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[04:58:51] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[05:00:10] *** potatosalad has joined #smartos[05:02:44] *** leecallen35 has joined #smartos[05:05:50] *** leecallen has quit IRC[05:29:48] *** potatosalad has quit IRC[05:56:27] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[06:41:18] *** nefilim has quit IRC[06:53:44] *** deirdres has quit IRC[06:55:15] *** deirdres has joined #smartos[06:57:12] *** szaydel has quit IRC[07:04:12] *** deirdres has quit IRC[07:27:31] *** estibi has quit IRC[07:27:45] *** estibi has joined #smartos[07:31:37] *** jgrafton has quit IRC[07:54:17] *** tonist has joined #smartos[07:57:53] *** estibi has quit IRC[07:58:06] *** estibi has joined #smartos[08:00:56] *** tonist has quit IRC[08:02:05] *** tbatchelli_m has joined #smartos[08:04:55] *** jgrafton has joined #smartos[08:07:25] *** cjones__ has quit IRC[08:09:34] *** tbatchelli_m has quit IRC[08:10:11] *** tbatchelli_m has joined #smartos[08:10:11] *** chakatz has joined #smartos[08:14:35] *** tbatchelli_m has quit IRC[08:20:28] *** izaki has quit IRC[08:22:52] *** tonist has joined #smartos[08:34:20] *** tonist has quit IRC[08:52:51] *** wolfeidau has quit IRC[08:53:05] *** wolfeidau has joined #smartos[09:02:06] *** alcir has joined #smartos[09:08:59] <LnxTx> imgadm: error (InvalidManifest): manifest is invalid: manifest does not have a "v" field[09:09:05] <LnxTx> "v" field?[09:09:20] <LnxTx> vendor?[09:11:04] <LnxTx> https://images.joyent.com/docs/#manifest-v[09:11:05] <MerlinDMC> LnxTx, which server did you use?[09:11:19] <LnxTx> own server, own manifest[09:11:31] <MerlinDMC> then you miss the v: 2 property in your manifest[09:11:43] <LnxTx> something chages in new version, i see[09:11:46] <MerlinDMC> assuming your manifest is in v2 format[09:12:51] <MerlinDMC> if you have a mnifest from the dsapi time you'll have to drop some fields and change the files part ... and I guess you'll need to add the status: "active" as well[09:13:14] *** wiedi has joined #smartos[09:13:14] *** tonist has joined #smartos[09:15:01] <alcir> zfs send/receive: "internal error: File too large"[09:17:10] <alcir> ah, found something on google[09:20:38] *** texarcana has quit IRC[09:22:43] *** texarcana has joined #smartos[09:26:06] *** wolfeidau has joined #smartos[09:28:47] <LeftWing> jelmd: How can I help?[09:33:09] <MerlinDMC> LeftWing, it's 9:30 here ... maybe too early ;)[09:33:44] <jzu_> ehhh, having trouble deciding how to name etherstubs :-)[09:33:54] <jzu_> for WWW backends... should it be just 'www' or 'vswitch0' :P[09:34:13] <MerlinDMC> lucy, jimmy, timmy, jane, alfred, barbara ...[09:34:13] <jzu_> what a problem![09:34:24] <jzu_> our servers are already gaia and uranus[09:34:28] <jzu_> and tartarus[09:42:25] *** KermitTheFragger has joined #smartos[09:43:18] *** aortmann has joined #smartos[09:46:59] *** trentster has joined #smartos[09:47:28] <arekinath> xxxx, tooheys, vb, corona.. ? stubs -> stubbies -> beer?[09:47:42] <arekinath> that's probably an australianism. I'll go back to my corner now[09:49:04] <MerlinDMC> hehe[09:49:24] *** wolfeidau has quit IRC[09:50:42] <jzu_> hehe[09:50:56] <jzu_> my private Sun Ray server is corona ... :P[09:51:03] <jzu_> and oh, my home NAS box is sol ![09:51:09] <jzu_> .... sol, the beer[09:51:14] <jzu_> or, sun[09:51:48] *** wolfeidau has joined #smartos[09:51:49] <jzu_> Sol, the Latin name of the main-sequence star of the synonymous Sol System, called the Sun in English[10:01:52] *** andy_js has joined #smartos[10:08:28] *** bens1 has joined #smartos[10:08:32] *** emocakes has joined #smartos[10:15:44] *** oddsignals has joined #smartos[10:15:48] *** mamash has joined #smartos[10:16:18] *** groundwater has quit IRC[10:17:04] *** mattconnolly has joined #smartos[10:20:20] *** mattconnolly has quit IRC[10:47:37] *** mattconnolly has joined #smartos[11:04:08] *** gkyildirim has joined #smartos[11:06:10] *** mattconnolly has quit IRC[11:12:06] *** gkyildirim has quit IRC[11:22:28] *** gkyildirim has joined #smartos[11:23:29] *** gkyildirim has quit IRC[11:59:57] <opeth__> jzu_: I guess I suck, I call my GZ 'global' and my guests are functionally mail, www and the likes :][12:00:17] <jzu_> well to be honest, we are moving towards that approach with our production platform ... :)[12:00:27] <jzu_> ie. we are in the middle of migration from Solaris 10 host to Solaris 11[12:00:31] <opeth__> now that I think about it 'glimmerpony' would make a nice name for, say, the gateway[12:00:33] <jzu_> current host has dionysus, which is mail.synack.fi[12:00:43] <jzu_> new server, the Solaris 11 will have the mailhost as 'mail' :-)[12:01:11] <jzu_> because with 10+ Zones it becomes PITA to try to remember "oh, what was the function of kronos or tethys?"[12:01:30] <jzu_> it's easier if it's "ds, mail, proxy, ns, ns2" etc[12:02:02] <opeth__> well, it's better if you do vmadm lookup alias=<function> and then simply login[12:02:09] <opeth__> ;][12:02:14] <opeth__> zlogin I mean[12:02:19] <jzu_> well, we're talking about Solaris 11 here ;)[12:02:31] <jzu_> Solaris 11 is our core production host, SmartOS is for customers who need their own Linux VM[12:02:53] <opeth__> ah, yes, now I recall[12:03:15] *** wolfeidau has quit IRC[12:04:02] <jzu_> core production being, WWW/email hosting[12:04:36] <jzu_> the reason we are running Solaris is that we have sh*tloads of spare hardware, ie. 5x T2000's[12:04:42] <jzu_> and since this is a hobby we're on budget here :)[12:04:57] <opeth__> yeah we talked about that earlier[12:05:06] <jzu_> one would be stupid to run something like Linux on T2000, would waste the great HW features it has (ie. chip-kill)[12:05:14] <jzu_> ah, yeah - I recall your nick now[12:05:20] <opeth__> CMT is best when put to use[12:06:10] <jzu_> and since we're so smaaall scale the T2000 does fine job for us =)[12:06:15] <opeth__> remember our discussion on LDOMs[12:06:15] <opeth__> ;][12:06:21] <jzu_> we're migrating now away from V240 with 2x 1.5GHz and 8GB =)[12:06:24] <jzu_> yeah =)[12:06:28] *** mamash has left #smartos[12:06:34] <opeth__> those Fires are nice, I keep testing on those[12:06:46] <jzu_> LDOMs would be greeeat to have, but well - I got M3000/M4000 for FREE, but don't have spares for those[12:07:07] <jzu_> also got M5000 but we don't have money to have it colocated in the near future ;)[12:07:14] <jzu_> and when we have it's already obsolete =)[12:07:20] <jzu_> it kind of start to be that now :P[12:07:23] *** izaki has joined #smartos[12:07:24] <jzu_> *starts[12:19:26] *** izaki has quit IRC[12:23:14] *** izaki has joined #smartos[12:53:30] *** izaki has quit IRC[13:01:36] *** tonist has quit IRC[13:10:16] *** chakatz has quit IRC[13:19:45] *** tonist has joined #smartos[13:26:04] *** tonist has quit IRC[13:34:45] *** Tekni has joined #smartos[13:35:13] *** szaydel has joined #smartos[13:37:50] *** Teknix has quit IRC[13:40:38] *** chakatz has joined #smartos[13:41:24] *** wolfeidau has joined #smartos[13:57:36] *** tonist has joined 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#smartos[21:04:34] *** tonist has quit IRC[21:16:58] *** altf2o has quit IRC[21:23:49] *** Alek has quit IRC[21:28:51] *** bradley0 has joined #smartos[21:29:38] <bradley0> hello #smartos[21:36:45] <rmustacc> Hello[21:46:55] *** julianduque has joined #smartos[21:53:59] *** mgls has joined #smartos[21:54:38] <MerlinDMC> hello![22:01:05] *** altf2o has joined #smartos[22:04:26] *** Alek has joined #smartos[22:18:00] *** mamash has left #smartos[22:29:17] *** chorrell has joined #smartos[22:29:42] *** elijah-mbp has joined #smartos[22:31:51] *** tonist has joined #smartos[22:39:46] <bradley0> phew, I was beginning to think I didn't have voice[22:40:32] *** bleutoo has joined #smartos[22:42:00] <bradley0> so I'm pretty sure this is an issue I haven't faced on illumos before[22:42:29] <bradley0> but I can't get my /etc/hosts file to be respected when I have any nameservers defined in /etc/resolv.conf[22:42:46] <bradley0> despite having "files dns" as the order in my nsswitch[22:44:18] *** 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Has anyone gotten X-forwarding to work properly on SmartOS?[23:48:25] *** chakatz has joined #smartos[23:48:49] <jperkin> bixu: https://twitter.com/jperkin/status/362947431240966144[23:48:49] <bixu> Figured it out. Need to set XAuthLocation in /etc/ssh/sshd_config[23:49:16] <bixu> Haha. I didn't see that, jperkin, but I did the same thing :)[23:49:59] <jellydonut> does anyone know if there are security issues with GPU passthrough?[23:50:29] <jellydonut> like, does it break the sandboxing of windows[23:52:20] <bixu> jperkin: Now all I need is FUSE-style abstraction for Manta and I don't need a local machine anymore :)[23:52:47] <rmustacc> jellydonut: GPU passthrough to where?[23:54:01] <jellydonut> to a windows instance in kvm[23:54:41] <rmustacc> We don't support that.[23:54:48] *** gkyildirim has left #smartos[23:54:55] <rmustacc> But I can comment on the general theory.[23:55:03] <rmustacc> If you're doing device pass-through that's exclusive.[23:55:14] <rmustacc> So the host should no longer have anything related to that device.[23:55:23] <jellydonut> key word being 'should'? :p[23:55:28] <rmustacc> And the I/O MMU that you're using should prevent accesses to host memory.[23:56:14] *** sa5bke has quit IRC[23:57:01] <rmustacc> To my knowledge proper GPU passthrough shouldn't cause any issue with issues with Windows sandboxing.[23:57:04] <jellydonut> why is it not supported, is it the kvm implementation lagging behind or qemu?[23:57:11] *** cjones_ has joined #smartos[23:57:13] <rmustacc> We opted not to implement that portion of kvm.[23:57:37] <jellydonut> oh! do i need to actually be good at coding to hack it in myself?[23:57:41] <rmustacc> It's not the most relevant to Joyent's business.[23:57:55] <rmustacc> Some ability and a lot of perseverance.[23:58:09] *** emocakes has joined #smartos[23:58:17] <jellydonut> oh dear. yeah i have neither of those. well, i guess i have perseverance but that doesn't help if i'm spending it on banging my head into a wall[23:58:24] <rmustacc> And then an ability or desire to build up familiarity with how things like PCI works.[23:59:03] <jellydonut> that's a shame, i had envisioned a superworkstation running a hypervisor with zfs and all, with windows safely sandboxed and running on top of a checksummed redundant pool of disks and cache devices[23:59:15] <jellydonut> which i get is the exact opposite of joyents business so i realize why it isnt supported[23:59:30] *** elijah-mbp has quit IRC