February 12, 2017 
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February 12, 2017 [00:00:20] <waltervn> OK, so the top frame here is MT32Emu::Renderer::render[00:02:13] * waltervn wonders how large those buffers are in there[00:07:27] *** WindlePoons <WindlePoons!~WindlePoo@84-112-184-77.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend)[00:10:30] <waltervn> 48 kilobyte if I'm not mistaken. That should be OK on windows though, unless SDL is spawning a thread with a small stack[00:13:53] <wjp> is that location consistent? I've seen valgrind trigger all over the place[00:14:05] <wjp> (with completely corrupt stack)[00:15:23] <waltervn> at this point I'm guessing it may not be related[00:16:12] <waltervn> and it also seems this happens in SDL 2.0.5 only, if I go back to 2.0.4 it does not overflow the stack. Maybe SDL2 changed something with the stack size of the audio callbacks?[00:20:29] <waltervn> this points to some changes in that area: http://hg.libsdl.org/SDL/rev/471eb08040ce[00:21:45] <wjp> yes, quite interesting[00:22:39] <wjp> are you building your own SDL?[00:22:59] <waltervn> I've used both my own and the official DLLs[00:23:22] <wjp> the audio stack size seems to be set in src/audio/SDL_audio.c; look for stacksize[00:25:38] <waltervn> that's confusing, because it claims to not limit stack size for user callbacks[00:25:53] <waltervn> or am I reading this wrong[00:27:51] <wjp> it does seem that way[00:30:38] *** DrMcCoy <DrMcCoy!~drmccoy@xoreos/drmccoy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:31:24] *** DrMcCoy <DrMcCoy!~drmccoy@xoreos/drmccoy> has joined #scummvm[00:31:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrMcCoy[00:32:33] <wjp> but might still be interesting to move those huge buffers in Renderer::render out of the stack[00:33:37] <wjp> that does fix the valgrind weirdness here[00:33:40] <wjp> wow[00:34:07] <wjp> I hadn't even seriously considered a real stack overflow[00:38:40] *** DrMcCoy <DrMcCoy!~drmccoy@xoreos/drmccoy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:38:57] *** DrMcCoy <DrMcCoy!~drmccoy@xoreos/drmccoy> has joined #scummvm[00:38:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrMcCoy[00:42:55] *** diehumblex <diehumblex!uid209517@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zqhtnwzilblibeua> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:43:33] *** DrMcCoy <DrMcCoy!~drmccoy@xoreos/drmccoy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:44:40] *** DrMcCoy <DrMcCoy!~drmccoy@xoreos/drmccoy> has joined #scummvm[00:44:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DrMcCoy[00:49:33] *** GitHub41 <GitHub41!~GitHub41@192.30.252.45> has joined #scummvm[00:49:33] <GitHub41> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 2 new commits to branch-1-9: https://git.io/vDw0J[00:49:33] <GitHub41> scummvm/branch-1-9 50681bd Paul Gilbert: TSAGE: R2R: Fix display of animations[00:49:33] <GitHub41> scummvm/branch-1-9 23f1596 Paul Gilbert: NEWS: Mention R2R display fix[00:49:33] *** GitHub41 <GitHub41!~GitHub41@192.30.252.45> has left #scummvm[00:51:53] <waltervn> wjp: does that is_internal_thread line look OK to you? Isn't that flipped?[00:57:55] <waltervn> (assuming that desired->callback is a user callback)[00:58:43] *** GitHub160 <GitHub160!~GitHub160@192.30.252.34> has joined #scummvm[00:58:43] <GitHub160> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDw0B[00:58:43] <GitHub160> scummvm/master f66ead3 Paul Gilbert: TSAGE: R2R: Fix display of animations[00:58:43] <GitHub160> scummvm/master 23452a5 Paul Gilbert: NEWS: Mention R2R display fix[00:58:43] *** GitHub160 <GitHub160!~GitHub160@192.30.252.34> has left #scummvm[00:58:48] <waltervn> changing that to == NULL, it doesn't crash anymore[00:59:04] <waltervn> let's see what happens if I leave it alone, but increase the stack size, just to make sure it triggers this path[01:01:19] <waltervn> it also works with a 128KB stack size for internal threads, leaving the != NULL line alone[01:01:27] <waltervn> so I think this settles it. At least the problem on my end[01:03:31] *** m_kiewitz <m_kiewitz!~m_kiewitz@scummvm/undead/m-kiewitz> has quit IRC (Quit: technology isn't intrinsically good or evil. It's how it's used. Like the Death Ray.)[01:07:40] <wjp> That is_internal_thread does seem inverted[01:08:34] <waltervn> I wonder if all this is also related to those random crashes others have seen[01:08:43] <wjp> Nice work on tracking this down[01:08:49] <wjp> It seems likely[01:09:07] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 23f1596e: Failure: stable-psp, stable-android_mips, stable-dc, stable-webos, stable-wii, stable-android_arm, stable-android_x86, stable-gamecube, stable-dc-serial, stable-n64, stable-amigaos4, stable-ouya, stable-debian-x86-nullbackend[01:10:50] <wjp> That looks like a false alarm[01:11:35] <wjp> Some buildbot/test changes haven't made it into the 1.9 branch I guess?[01:11:40] <dreammaster> Thank goodness, then. I was afraid I'd done something wrong again with my changes. :P[01:11:51] <wjp> :-)[01:12:05] <wjp> But bedtime for me. 'Night[01:12:09] <dreammaster> Night[01:13:08] <waltervn> night wjp[01:25:07] <[md5]> nn[01:25:12] *** [md5] <[md5]!~md5@unaffiliated/md5/x-729473> has quit IRC ()[01:37:42] <waltervn> I filed a bug with SDL[01:38:09] *** exmensa_ <exmensa_!exmensa@66.43.202.238> has joined #scummvm[01:39:42] <waltervn> and they've already fixed it, that was quick :)[01:40:13] *** exmensa <exmensa!exmensa@66.43.202.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:44:40] *** Vampire0 <Vampire0!~Vampire@jEdit/Vampire> has joined #scummvm[01:45:13] *** Vampire0_ <Vampire0_!~Vampire@jEdit/Vampire> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:52:35] *** Henke37 <Henke37!~Henrik@81-227-16-59-no133.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ERR_SHUTDOWN)[02:06:09] *** waltervn_ <waltervn_!~waltervn@541B2DBA.cm-5-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #scummvm[02:06:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waltervn_[02:06:09] *** waltervn <waltervn!~waltervn@541B2DBA.cm-5-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Disconnected by 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#scummvm[11:18:18] *** Henke37 <Henke37!~Henrik@81-227-16-59-no133.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #scummvm[11:19:01] *** BeefEats <BeefEats!~BeefEats@unaffiliated/beefeats> has joined #scummvm[11:20:29] *** BeefEats <BeefEats!~BeefEats@unaffiliated/beefeats> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:27:55] <wjp> waltervn: so icculus fixed that bug in SDL within 10 minutes? :-)[11:28:06] <wjp> um, Sam[11:30:47] <waltervn> yeah :)[11:35:10] <waltervn> we still have the somewhat uncomfortable situation now that scummvm+sdl2.0.5+mt32emu is a bad combination. And is bound to get us some bug reports once Ubuntu upgrades SDL, I'm guessing. (Assuming this stack size problem is also causing the issue on Linux)[11:36:57] <wjp> and allocating this much memory on the stack is just asking for trouble[11:37:50] <waltervn> yeah, although I think in practice, the platforms where this is an issue will not be fast enough to run mt32emu[11:38:10] <wjp> these buffers used to be part of one of the objects in mt32emu[11:41:22] <waltervn> I remember when I was doing the FreeSCI port for Dreamcast, the stack size for threads was 8KB :)[11:41:49] <waltervn> (or somewhere around there)[11:52:19] <waltervn> looks like MUNT changed that quite a long time ago though, back in 2013: "other temp buffers became local and are allocated on the stack thus no longer consume memory"[11:59:02] *** GitHub126 <GitHub126!~GitHub126@192.30.252.42> has joined #scummvm[11:59:02] <GitHub126> [scummvm] sev- pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDwQF[11:59:02] <GitHub126> scummvm/master e76fec6 Eugene Sandulenko: DIRECTOR: Lingo: Fixing position count in lexer[11:59:02] <GitHub126> scummvm/master a243a47 Eugene Sandulenko: DIRECTOR: Lingo: Added grammar for assignment to references[11:59:02] <GitHub126> scummvm/master ed1d606 Eugene Sandulenko: DIRECTOR: Lingo: Implemented stub for REFERENCE built-ins[11:59:02] *** GitHub126 <GitHub126!~GitHub126@192.30.252.42> has left #scummvm[12:08:03] <wjp> because apparently stack memory isn't memory? :-)[12:08:36] <waltervn> :)[12:15:07] *** _sev|work <_sev|work!~sev@scummvm/undead/sev> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[12:27:44] <m_kiewitz> what#s the best version of Myst?[12:29:03] <m_kiewitz> waltervn: I wonder why they changed that? Wouldn't it be better to allocate buffers right at the start and then use those?[12:30:07] <m_kiewitz> was it done to improve performance?[12:30:32] <m_kiewitz> or well really just "save" memory and simply use the already allocated stack?[12:30:59] <m_kiewitz> i wonder why they didn't put some functionality in there like a stack or regular memory switch inside the code[12:34:50] <bgK> m_kiewitz: about Myst, depends what you're into. There's a wide choice now, from 8 bits graphics to modern 3D.[12:35:10] <m_kiewitz> bgK: it seems masterpiece edition is the best 2D one, correct?[12:35:19] <m_kiewitz> is that one supported by ScummVM too?[12:35:41] <bgK> well, it has 16bits graphics, maps and a hint system[12:36:02] <bgK> yes, it's supported by ScummVM although the hint system is not[12:36:05] <m_kiewitz> ah but it seems the regular non-masterpiece edition had extra goodies inside the physical box[12:36:17] <m_kiewitz> and the masterpiece edition has no goodies at all[12:36:29] <m_kiewitz> is the 8-bit original myst still fine to play?[12:36:37] <m_kiewitz> i mean graphics wise[12:37:00] <bgK> m_kiewitz: there's little difference, IMO[12:37:09] <m_kiewitz> and that is?[12:37:13] <m_kiewitz> ah right[12:37:14] <m_kiewitz> ok[12:37:43] <bgK> in the original edition, the videos are dithered to 8bits which can be a little annoying[12:39:40] <m_kiewitz> does it look really bad?[12:40:52] <m_kiewitz> and it seems there is only one European original version, which was multilingual, correct?[12:43:50] <bgK> nah, the videos just look better in the remastered edition. but the original edition is ok[12:44:13] <bgK> no, there is no multilingual version of Myst[12:44:46] <bgK> there is one release per country[12:50:31] <m_kiewitz> oh i see. weird, it seems the manuals in Europe were multilingual[12:51:10] <m_kiewitz> i thought there wasn't that much speech in myst, or is there?[12:52:01] <m_kiewitz> is myst 2, 3 or 4 supported in ScummVM?[12:55:19] <bgK> there are a few videos with speech. The journals are translated as well. The date format is localized in the original edition, but not in Masterpiece.[12:55:47] <bgK> Riven is WIP in ScummVM, Exile is supported in ResidualVM.[12:56:40] <bgK> Revelation and End of Ages are too big to be realistically supported in the future through reverse engineering[12:57:44] <bgK> The engine for Uru (Uru online to be precise) was open sourced by Cyan[12:57:57] <m_kiewitz> oh so exile is fully 3D?[12:58:34] <bgK> Exile uses a full 3D engine, but only draws a cube and a few planes[13:00:01] <m_kiewitz> ah i see. and masterpiece edition does the same?[13:00:12] <m_kiewitz> ah no, masterpiece edition simply uses 24 bit movies?[13:00:23] <m_kiewitz> but there is another myst 1 edition that is full 3D, right?[13:00:37] <m_kiewitz> and that one is supported nowhere right now?[13:01:53] <bgK> there are two full 3D versions of Myst. RealMyst and RealMyst Masterpiece. The former uses a variation of the Uru engine, while the latter uses Unity[13:02:37] <m_kiewitz> ah interesting[13:02:48] <bgK> I think there is a way to convert RealMyst to work with the open source Uru engine, but I never tried it[13:02:53] <m_kiewitz> i guess maybe we should create a wiki about all of the editions, could be helpful[13:03:19] <m_kiewitz> would it make sense to implement the Uru engine inside ResidualVM?[13:03:36] *** Raziel^ <Raziel^!~Raziel@ipb21bfc18.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #scummvm[13:03:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Raziel^[13:04:25] <bgK> it's a very large engine, much larger than ResidualVM currently is. It uses Python as a scripting language. I think it's better for it to be a separate project[13:04:27] <m_kiewitz> snover: you own PQ:SWAT the floppy version?[13:04:58] <Raziel^> anyone involved or know some things about the cloud feature?[13:05:01] <m_kiewitz> bgK: ah right, I see. interesting. thank you. 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:-)[15:41:00] <waltervn> no, what is it?[15:43:41] <Lightkey> some people revived SuperH, now that the patents ran out[15:44:59] * t0by grins[15:45:12] <t0by> I always get a fuzzy feeling in my heart when some patent runs out.[15:45:20] <t0by> Well, I would if I had a heart.[15:46:37] <Lightkey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0milqmt4ao&t=1840 :-)[15:50:14] *** rootfather <rootfather!~rootfathe@unaffiliated/rootfather> has joined #scummvm[15:50:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rootfather[16:06:55] *** Vampire0 <Vampire0!~Vampire@jEdit/Vampire> has joined #scummvm[16:07:00] *** Vampire0_ <Vampire0_!~Vampire@jEdit/Vampire> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:50:28] <snover> m_kiewitz: yes, what’s up?[17:32:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Strangerke[17:36:47] *** WindlePoons <WindlePoons!~WindlePoo@84-112-184-77.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #scummvm[17:51:43] *** ny00123 <ny00123!~ny00123@bzq-79-182-43-200.red.bezeqint.net> has joined #scummvm[17:53:08] *** jamm <jamm!~jam@unaffiliated/jamm> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:57:13] *** GitHub109 <GitHub109!~GitHub109@192.30.252.41> has joined #scummvm[17:57:13] <GitHub109> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDrIU[17:57:13] <GitHub109> scummvm/master 2adc84e Strangerke: CRYO: Some code simplification, remove dead code[17:57:13] *** GitHub109 <GitHub109!~GitHub109@192.30.252.41> has left #scummvm[18:13:04] *** GitHub186 <GitHub186!~GitHub186@192.30.252.45> has joined #scummvm[18:13:04] <GitHub186> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDrLt[18:13:04] <GitHub186> scummvm/master 70f1cd6 Strangerke: CRYO: Remove some more dead code, remove _keyboardHeld[18:13:04] *** GitHub186 <GitHub186!~GitHub186@192.30.252.45> has left #scummvm[18:25:19] *** dreammaster <dreammaster!~dreammast@c-73-149-116-247.hsd1.vt.comcast.net> has joined #scummvm[18:25:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dreammaster[18:32:41] <m_kiewitz> snover: do you own pq4 floppy already?[18:35:47] <snover> m_kiewitz: i own the cd-version, but i also know someone that has the floppy version. what can i do for you?[18:36:31] <m_kiewitz> nah i don't need it right now. i could just buy it, i already own one of the localized pq4 versions on floppy[18:39:42] *** LittleToonCat <LittleToonCat!~littlecat@sydnns0115w-047054148237.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.ns.bellaliant.net> has joined #scummvm[18:52:09] *** GitHub195 <GitHub195!~GitHub195@192.30.252.42> has joined #scummvm[18:52:09] <GitHub195> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDrth[18:52:09] <GitHub195> scummvm/master a542104 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Rename CMusicWave to CMusicRoomInstrument[18:52:09] *** GitHub195 <GitHub195!~GitHub195@192.30.252.42> has left #scummvm[19:05:59] *** GitHub191 <GitHub191!~GitHub191@192.30.252.42> has joined #scummvm[19:05:59] <GitHub191> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDrme[19:05:59] <GitHub191> scummvm/master e00fb13 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Fix method names in CMusicRoomInstrument[19:05:59] *** GitHub191 <GitHub191!~GitHub191@192.30.252.42> has left #scummvm[19:17:14] *** bgK <bgK!~bgk@2001:41d0:2:599c::2a60:8434> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:20:45] *** bgK <bgK!~bgk@2001:41d0:2:599c::2a60:8434> has joined #scummvm[19:20:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o bgK[19:31:06] *** girafe <girafe!~girafe@LFbn-1-11729-221.w2-7.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #scummvm[19:51:59] *** Strangerke_ <Strangerke_!~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net> has joined #scummvm[19:55:08] *** Strangerke <Strangerke!~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:55:08] *** Strangerke_ is now known as Strangerke[19:56:35] *** Littleboy <Littleboy!~littleboy@c-73-186-252-231.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has joined #scummvm[19:56:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Littleboy[19:56:36] *** GitHub106 <GitHub106!~GitHub106@192.30.252.41> has joined #scummvm[19:56:36] <GitHub106> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDrOH[19:56:36] <GitHub106> scummvm/master c33962f Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Renaming methods in CMusicRoomHandler[19:56:36] *** GitHub106 <GitHub106!~GitHub106@192.30.252.41> has left #scummvm[20:00:03] *** NuSuey <NuSuey!uid3556@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jmgklhxnsdnkqlae> has joined #scummvm[20:30:36] *** Strangerke_ <Strangerke_!~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net> has joined #scummvm[20:32:28] *** Strangerke <Strangerke!~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:32:28] *** Strangerke_ is now known as Strangerke[20:36:26] <omer_mor> snover: re: ega sci1 versions - SQ4-EGA has a cool change in the SQ1 Ulence Flats bar. The monochrome bikers there a taunting Roger differently than in the VGA version. It's also different in the Amiga version.[20:37:22] <omer_mor> In the VGA they say: "Well, lookee here! If it ain't Mr. 'Look-at-Me-I'm-in-VGA'. What's this? 256 colors all for one little bitmapped wimp? What a waste of VGA, heh heh.""[20:38:08] <omer_mor> While in the EGA version it's: "Well, lookee here! If it ain't Mr. 'Look-at-Me-I'm-in-EGA'. What's this? 16 colors all for one little bitmapped wimp? What a waste of EGA, heh heh."[20:38:26] *** ajax16384 <ajax16384!~User@109.60.130.33> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:39:02] <omer_mor> and the Amiga is: "Well, lookee here! If it ain't Mr. 'Look-at-Me-I'm-in-32-Colors'. What's this? You'd have to be a blitherin' idiot to waste all that color on one little bitmapped wimp, heh heh."[20:41:22] *** WindlePoons <WindlePoons!~WindlePoo@84-112-184-77.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend)[20:50:08] *** Raziel^ <Raziel^!~Raziel@ipb21bfc18.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #scummvm[20:50:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Raziel^[20:52:32] <Raziel^> Anyone can point me to the "opengl" graphics mode in scummvm's code?[20:53:40] <fuzzie> primarily in backends/graphics/opengl[20:55:03] <Raziel^> fuzzie: if i were to try and implement a new graphics mode (compositing) - not that i could if my life depended on it - would there be a skeleton code somewhere?[20:55:13] <Raziel^> btw, hi fuzzie, long time no read :-)[20:56:13] <fuzzie> what kind of new graphics mode? another backend for amiga or so?[20:57:02] <fuzzie> and hi :p three weeks until I'm academia-free, quiet until then[20:57:47] *** Farmboy0 <Farmboy0!~quassel@xoreos/farmboy0> has joined #scummvm[20:58:11] <Raziel^> It's called Compositing and is using Amiga's graphics library, so far the fastest benchmarks we can get, even beats opengl by a factor 2 or so[20:58:24] <Raziel^> fuzzie: awesome, more time to code and help noobs[20:58:28] <Raziel^> ;-)[20:59:03] <t0by> fuzzie: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE[21:06:07] *** frankyboy_ <frankyboy_!~franky@ppp46-138-36-237.pppoe.spdop.ru> has joined #scummvm[21:07:06] <Raziel^> does scummvm use 16-bit textures by default (through all engines)?[21:14:06] <fuzzie> well, you have to do paletted :)[21:14:39] <Raziel^> err, pardon?[21:16:03] <fuzzie> the current opengl backend supports paletted surfaces using a shader to do the lookup[21:16:10] <fuzzie> but other backends just convert the textures[21:16:29] <fuzzie> but you're using SDL right now on amiga?[21:17:02] <fuzzie> the troublesome part will probably be making SDL cooperate with whatever you're doing (or writing your own layer for input/etc)[21:17:03] <Raziel^> yep, SDL2[21:17:40] <Raziel^> i'm not sure if i'm trying to hitch a horse (was that correct?) from the wrong end[21:17:55] <Raziel^> problem is that i'm trying to speed up wintermute graphics display[21:18:06] <Raziel^> because most of the games are dead slow and unplayable[21:18:24] <Raziel^> but i can't seem to squeeze any more speed out of it regardless of what i use[21:18:43] <Raziel^> next thing i was looking was to implement a compositing graphics mode[21:19:02] <Raziel^> but i guess the optimization would need to come from other places in the source[21:19:02] <fuzzie> well, wintermute only does 32bpp right now[21:19:05] <Raziel^> though i'm not sure[21:19:23] <Raziel^> and i don't reallyknow what i'm talking about anyway[21:19:24] <Raziel^> :-)=[21:19:45] <fuzzie> (if I remember right)[21:20:04] <fuzzie> do you have native support for that depth?[21:20:12] *** Wishmaster2 <Wishmaster2!~Wishmaste@dslc-082-082-224-053.pools.arcor-ip.net> has joined #scummvm[21:20:16] <Raziel^> fuzzie: but that doesn't mean it should be "slow", does it?[21:20:28] <Raziel^> my desktop resolution is 32bpp[21:20:32] <Raziel^> so, i guess, yes[21:21:13] *** GitHub56 <GitHub56!~GitHub56@192.30.252.45> has joined #scummvm[21:21:13] <GitHub56> [scummvm] criezy pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDrCO[21:21:13] <GitHub56> scummvm/master 2939e20 Thierry Crozat: CRYO: Add cryo.dat to DIST_FILES_ENGINEDATA[21:21:13] <GitHub56> scummvm/master 163b3b6 Thierry Crozat: DEVTOOLS: Add create_cryo to devtools README[21:21:13] <GitHub56> scummvm/master cd58664 Thierry Crozat: CREATE_PROJECT: Add data files for access, cryo and macventure in Xcode projects[21:21:13] *** GitHub56 <GitHub56!~GitHub56@192.30.252.45> has left #scummvm[21:22:01] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with cd58664b: Failure: master-mingw-w32, master-ouya, master-openpandora, master-n64, master-amigaos4, master-ios, master-wii, master-debian-x86, master-psp, master-ios7, master-webos, master-dc, master-osx_intel, master-caanoo, master-debian-x86-nullbackend, master-gp2x, master-dingux, master-debian-x86-clang, master-gamecube, master-[21:22:01] <ScummBot> ps2, master-ps3, master-gcw0,[21:22:01] <ScummBot> master-gp2xwiz, master-android_arm, master-android_mips, master-dc-serial, master-android_x86, master-mingw-w64, master-debian-x86_64, master-ds, master-mingw-w64-cplusplus11[21:22:14] <m_kiewitz> nooo[21:22:18] <fuzzie> Raziel^: the SDL2 compositing backend does ARGB8888 (only)[21:24:01] <criezy> Noooooooo![21:24:05] <Raziel^> fuzzie: let me check[21:24:15] *** travis-ci <travis-ci!~travis-ci@ec2-107-21-159-251.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #scummvm[21:24:16] <travis-ci> scummvm/scummvm#2676 (master - 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Already did it. I just have to push now.[21:25:35] <fuzzie> :-)[21:26:06] *** GitHub22 <GitHub22!~GitHub22@192.30.252.42> has joined #scummvm[21:26:06] <GitHub22> [scummvm] criezy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDrC2[21:26:06] <GitHub22> scummvm/master 104b3f3 Thierry Crozat: CRYO: Fix adding cryo.dat to DIST_FILES_ENGINEDATA[21:26:06] *** GitHub22 <GitHub22!~GitHub22@192.30.252.42> has left #scummvm[21:26:07] <fuzzie> looks like the last commit to that file before you was fixing the same mistake, so apparently easy to make :D[21:26:57] <criezy> That's a relief! 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