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[12:44:45] <jpmh> I upgraded from ubuntu 16.4 to 18.4 copied ny config files accross etc. postfix says it starts but status says: Active: active (exited) since Tue 2019-09-10 04:36:02 MDT; 8min ago - it does have port 25 open, but not working - how do I determine why it exited?
[12:45:31] <tuxick> "the log" ?
[12:46:21] <jpmh> tuxick: yes, but I am seeing no log, where is the log?
[12:47:58] <jpmh> tuxick: I even did a find /var/log -mmin -10 - in case I was missing something
[12:49:58] <Zerberus> jpmh: check your syslog daemon
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[12:51:35] <jpmh> Zerberus: I'm not sure what you mean - I do see warnings in the systlog file that have been there for years since my main.cf fil jas outdated/unused entries
[12:51:56] <jpmh> Zerberus: but it does not show the exit
[12:52:54] <Zerberus> jpmh: Postfix uses syslog() for logging, so when your syslog daemon does not run or is misconfigured you may end without Postfix logging
[12:53:21] <Zerberus> in case Postfix fails it will send log information to syslog()
[12:53:54] <Zerberus> or on a systemd system with journald that may be the first log info destination
[12:54:19] <jpmh> Zerberus: syslog IS getting messages from the postfix startup - it is ust not telling me why it exits
[12:54:29] <Zerberus> unlikely
[12:55:05] <Zerberus> !tell jpmh showconfig
[12:55:05] <knoba> jpmh: when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
[12:55:08] <jpmh> Zerberus: what do you mean - the last entry in the systlog is: daemon started -- version 3.3.0, configuration /etc/postfix
[12:56:24] <jpmh> knoba: I'm not 100% certain that there is not info in the config that I would be uncomfottable posting
[12:56:24] <knoba> jpmh: Error: "I'm" is not a valid command.
[12:56:55] <tuxick> hehe
[12:57:49] <jpmh> Zerberus: by repy to knoba was really for you
[12:58:02] <bookworm> then export that to a file and redact the offending domain names to example.org or whatever
[12:58:20] <Zerberus> jpmh: I know, frankly speaking I lost interest to help, sorry
[12:58:48] <jpmh> Zerberus: OK
[12:59:14] <jpmh> bookworm: are you interested in heling I can do that post with the domains redacted if you are
[12:59:44] <bookworm> I won't be of much help I'm afraid... I don't know the internals all too well
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[13:30:39] <tuxick> or simply check config for logging
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[15:58:08] <rob0> If there are " postfix/" lines in your mail log ("mail.log" on Debian/derivates) then logging is working.
[15:58:13] <rob0> !debian
[15:58:14] <knoba> rob0: Please see /usr/share/doc/postfix/README.Debian for Debian-specific information. This probably applies to Ubuntu and most other Debian-derivative distributions as well.
[15:58:59] <rob0> If looging is NOT working, go to #your-distro-here for help to get it working.
[15:59:07] <rob0> !nologs
[15:59:07] <knoba> rob0: Nothing in your mail logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question. also see !logs.
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[19:37:45] <jimpop> hmmm, what does this mean:
[19:37:48] <jimpop> warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 61(decimal): ms=ms61098056
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[19:38:07] <patdk-lap> ascii char 61 is invalid (=)
[19:38:20] <jimpop> yeah, next line is:
[19:38:21] <jimpop> warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 61(decimal): ms=ms61098056
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[19:38:44] <patdk-lap> actually 61 would be a, hmm
[19:39:13] <jimpop> the sending host is.... wait for it...
[19:39:17] <jimpop> mail-ed1-x536.google.com
[19:39:21] <patdk-lap> opps, 61hex is a heh
[19:39:22] <patdk-lap> been too long
[19:39:49] <patdk-lap> well isn't the ms=ms..... normally a txt dns entry verification thing?
[19:39:59] <jimpop> i dunno
[19:40:18] <patdk-lap> ya, decianal 61 is =
[19:40:21] <rob0> which daemon logged this warning? smtpd?
[19:40:38] <tuxick> patdk-lap: 42
[19:40:52] <jimpop> hang on, let me get a pastebin
[19:40:52] <patdk-lap> yes, 42 is the answer, but isn't the question
[19:41:29] <tuxick> bummer
[19:41:42] <jimpop> http://paste.debian.net/plainh/e36efceb
[19:42:21] <patdk-lap> someone screwed up dns
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[19:42:40] <rob0> gfycat.com. 300 IN MX 30 ms=ms61098056.
[19:43:07] <patdk-lap> it's not a google issue or that servers issue
[19:43:07] <lunaphyte> oopsies
[19:43:31] <lunaphyte> some either made a mistake, or is confused about how to do things
[19:43:44] <patdk-lap> ya, put in mx instead of txt
[19:43:45] <jimpop> possibly both!
[19:44:04] <rob0> if you're interested, contact the owner of gfycat.com. No reason why you need to be, though.
[19:44:19] <patdk-lap> it's wasting valuable logging space
[19:44:20] <jimpop> well, i get the log error msgs
[19:44:28] <jimpop> :-)
[19:44:48] <jimpop> what is the ms= thingy?
[19:44:59] <patdk-lap> a verification token that you own the domain
[19:45:06] <patdk-lap> for like google apps and stuff
[19:45:25] <patdk-lap> they don't include google in their spf records
[19:45:54] <rob0> it is a mistake by the owners of gfycat.com.
[19:45:56] <patdk-lap> actually ms would be fore microsoft
[19:46:05] <patdk-lap> azure or other things
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[19:46:12] <rob0> looks like 17:43 < patdk-lap> ya, put in mx instead of txt
[19:46:32] <patdk-lap> I wonder how much spam that cuts down on
[19:46:37] <patdk-lap> as that is their lowest mx server :)
[19:46:38] <rob0> it's not valid for a MX record
[19:46:48] <jimpop> well, i notified them. To be fair, they are very responsive so i'm sure it will get fixed
[19:47:11] <jimpop> my sole involvement is because someone is abusing a domain i hold and using it for random signups
[19:47:33] <patdk-lap> that doesn't sound bad
[19:47:42] <patdk-lap> I get a few hundred of those a day
[19:48:37] <patdk-lap> what was really abusive is when, hmm, some very popular website a few years ago started with an H, added in facebook stuff onto their homepage
[19:48:44] <patdk-lap> but instead of facebook it was calling my website instead
[19:49:05] <patdk-lap> suddently I was getting millions of page loads per hour
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[20:33:24] <tuxick> i had that once when someone used link to dutch flag as avatar on some football site
[20:33:33] <tuxick> so i replaced that with a german flag
[20:34:41] <tuxick> that trauma is from somewhere in 70s but i'm sure they remember
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[20:46:52] <jimpop> i use to host a flag related site and one day discovered a forum linking hires copies of the flags to use for thumbnails on the forum.
[20:47:08] <jimpop> i educated someone that day
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[21:01:10] <tuxick> :)
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