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[11:54:56] <ooAoo> hello
[11:55:28] <ooAoo> anyone around?
[12:00:32] <pj> !tell ooAoo welcome
[12:00:32] <knoba> ooAoo: Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck!
[12:03:33] <ooAoo> pj: hello
[12:04:10] <ooAoo> pj: what is the ^ in front of / mean?
[12:04:33] <ooAoo> eg. /To: *$/ REJECT
[12:04:33] <ooAoo> eg. /^To: *$/ REJECT
[12:05:04] <pj> It's a regex.
[12:05:06] <pj> !regex
[12:05:08] <pj> !pcre
[12:05:09] <knoba> pj: some people, when confronted with a problem, think i know, i'll use regular expressions. now they have two problems. (jamie zawinski)
[12:05:10] <knoba> pj: Perl-compatible regular expressions (pcre:) support in Postfix: http://www.postfix.org/PCRE_README.html
[12:05:37] <pj> bleh, wrong factoid, but you should learn regexp syntax.
[12:06:13] <ooAoo> without ^ , line like 'Reply-To:' get rejected
[12:06:27] <ooAoo> the ^ make a big difference
[12:06:38] <pj> Indeed it does
[12:06:39] <bookworm> yes that's how regex works
[12:07:30] <ooAoo> bookworm: hello
[12:07:48] <ooAoo> i should always put a ^ to make it it start from To:
[12:07:51] <ooAoo> i guess so.. :D
[12:09:50] <bookworm> ooor you could read what ^ actually means instead of random trial and error you are bound to get wrong ;)
[12:10:38] <ooAoo> bookworm: lol
[12:10:44] <ooAoo> to match
[12:11:02] <ooAoo> where is the good place to read about the basic regex?
[12:11:03] <ooAoo> ^
[12:11:43] <bookworm> regex or pcre?
[12:12:02] <bookworm> slightly different syntax between those
[12:12:28] <ooAoo> bookworm: i thought pcre is same as regex...
[12:12:36] <ooAoo> i read that in the manual
[12:12:41] <bookworm> no
[12:13:07] <bookworm> regex is specified by posix, pcre is perl compatible regex
[12:13:23] <bookworm> pcre has some convinient shortcuts
[12:13:29] <bookworm> convenient*
[12:13:29] <pj> they are mostly the same but there are minor differences.
[12:13:53] <ooAoo> ok
[12:14:02] <bookworm> minor differences in regex can mean a lot 🤷‍♂️
[12:14:08] <ooAoo> haha
[12:14:11] <pj> yes
[12:14:27] <ooAoo> any example ?
[12:17:28] <bookworm> character classes
[12:18:23] <ooAoo> bookworm: ok
[12:23:38] <pj> I think certain assertions as well.
[12:24:36] <pj> I tend to stick with pcre unless postfix was built without it.
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[13:31:02] <survietamine> I'm not sure about things like lookaround too
[13:31:34] <survietamine> I tried to write some regex based on that on some BURP client, and didn't work.
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[13:41:15] <pj> yeah, lookaround assertions are tricky.
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[14:01:59] <survietamine> in the case of BURP, I wanted to use that to restore all files except some "extensions" like pdf, xls, etc.
[14:02:21] <survietamine> I don't know how to negate words without lookarounds
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[14:08:44] <rob0> I've yet to make breakfast, but after I eat, I can tell you all about BURP.
[14:09:12] <survietamine> lol
[14:09:21] <survietamine> you are BURP user too?
[14:09:29] <survietamine> I mean the backup program
[14:10:05] <survietamine> not the security scanner
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[14:10:07] <rob0> no, but I'm going to make something good :)
[14:10:18] <survietamine> uh?
[14:10:30] <rob0> for food
[14:10:32] <survietamine> bon appétit :)
[14:10:39] <rob0> merci :)
[14:10:49] <survietamine> ah, that was a way to remind me it's offtopic? :D
[14:11:00] <rob0> no, just a joke
[14:11:10] <survietamine> I thought you were seriously a BURP backup guru :)
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[15:20:38] <buki> damn, now I have to try BURP out!
[15:24:19] <tuxick> is it better than FART?
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[15:48:56] <survietamine> tuxick: hehe, after having tried others like bacula, we prefer BURP. Nowadays we only use that or znapzend when ZFS is available.
[15:49:25] <survietamine> the only thing I complain about is hardlinks handle.
[15:50:40] <tuxick> switched to borg over a year ago
[15:55:27] * survietamine prefer McEnroe
[15:55:46] <survietamine> +s, sorry
[15:56:28] <tuxick> ;p
[15:56:44] <tuxick> i don't want a service that screams about lines
[16:01:21] <survietamine> :)
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[17:37:14] <n_1-c_k> I have mail that arrives to a virtual alias, the alias is resolved and the mail delivered to the user via dovecot-lmtp. All good. But - if the alias is one that has been deleted and later re-added then - https://0x0.st/zJr2.txt . If you have encountered this, how did you solve it?
[17:42:46] <section1> n_1-c_k, check the topic...sure you need to run postmap...but without topic info..is only a shoot in the dark.
[17:43:28] <section1> s/postmap/newaliases/
[17:46:37] <section1> or postalias
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[18:39:20] <lunaphyte> maybe
[18:39:38] <lunaphyte> we couldn't answer for sure without actual data as per the channel /topic
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[19:25:51] <jelly> is there a reason why postfix 2.9.6-2 (on Debian 7) would only listen on 127.0.0.1 when told to "inet_interfaces = localhost" and there are entries for both v4 and v6 localhost in /etc/hosts and "getent hosts localhost" confirms it? I'll use documented "inet_interfaces = loopback-only" but it's weird
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[21:14:52] <pj> !tell jelly inet_protocols
[21:14:53] <knoba> jelly: The Internet protocols Postfix will attempt to use when making or accepting connections. Specify one or more of ipv4 or ipv6 , separated by whitespace or commas. The form all is equivalent to ipv4, ipv6 or ipv4 , depending on whether the operating system implements IPv6.
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[21:16:57] <martian67> hello
[21:17:50] <martian67> I am attempting to enable opportunistic tls on postfix, i have placed smtpd_tls_security_level = may in main.cf but outgoing mail to STARTTLS enabled servers is still not encrypted
[21:18:11] <pj> !tell martian67 getting_help
[21:18:11] <knoba> martian67: before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
[21:18:28] <martian67> !relevant_logs
[21:18:28] <knoba> martian67: mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging
[21:18:36] <lunaphyte> martian67: smtpd != smtp
[21:18:53] <lunaphyte> !tell martian67 smtp_tls_security_level
[21:18:53] <knoba> martian67: The default SMTP TLS security level for the Postfix SMTP client; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtp_use_tls, smtp_enforce_tls, and smtp_tls_enforce_peername. Specify one of the following security levels: none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.
[21:19:14] <martian67> hmm
[21:20:16] <martian67> yep that did it
[21:20:28] <martian67> apparently i was neglecting the difference between smtpd and smtp sigh
[21:20:32] <pj> !smtpd!=smtp
[21:20:32] <knoba> pj: Postfix smtpd_* and smtp_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtpd_ = server and smtp_ = client, the server-side receives mail whilst the client-side sends mail. (smtpd = server = receives mail) (smtp = client = sends mail)
[21:20:33] <martian67> thank you
[21:20:45] <martian67> didnt even see that
[21:21:00] <pj> good catch lunaphyte. In my defense I just woke up on about three hours sleep.
[21:22:38] <martian67> pretty shit its off by default tbh, no real reason for it
[21:22:49] <martian67> but whatever, got it working now
[21:23:38] <lunaphyte> martian67: that's quite presumptuous and judgmental
[21:24:15] <martian67> yeah it is, but defaulting to no encryption, even when avalible is backwards and stuck in the 90s :)
[21:24:29] <martian67> anyways thanks, ill leave you now
[21:24:34] <lunaphyte> it's easy to be an armchair quarterback, isn't it?
[21:24:38] <martian67> yes
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