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[16:04:07] <exs> hi I have a question
[16:04:59] <exs> how services like activecampaign (crm systems) send emails with your email addresses without being connected to your smtp or being auth in anyway without being pretended as spam?
[16:05:29] <exs> percepted I mean
[16:05:49] <thumbs> exs: that's better suited for ##email
[16:06:06] <thumbs> exs: if you have a question related to postfix, you can ask it here.
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[16:42:47] <exs> the reason I ask here because my postfix mails get marked as spam sometimes and I need to know how activecampaign send mails with a strange mail addresses and still not get marked as spam why is that?
[16:44:39] <survietamine> What is marke as spam? Your IP address is listed in some DNSBL?
[16:44:52] <survietamine> *marked*
[16:44:56] <rob0> Again, deliverability, whether or not mailed through Postfix, is more an issue for ##email. But in a nutshell your ESP knows what they are doing. And they're using their own envelope sender, even with your address in the From: header.
[16:46:33] <lunaphyte> exs: do your non postfix mails not get marked as spam?
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[17:00:33] <exs> lunaphyte: non postfix mails I use are all from gmail and gmail never get marked as spam I guess
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[17:05:23] <lunaphyte> so in other words, you have no other mail server software to compare to, and suggesting it's your "postfix" mails getting marked as spam doesn't actually make any sense ;)
[17:06:10] <lunaphyte> when i ask for free help on irc, and someone directs me to another channel, i don't explain myself or otherwise argue. i say "ok, thanks", and i follow the free advice i was given.
[17:06:15] <rob0> The main factor in deliverability, IP reputation, is unrelated to the software choice.
[17:06:52] <lunaphyte> so far, that's been very successful for getting good help for my questions
[17:06:56] <exs> lunaphyte: its not a postfix bug, I speak wonder how to configure it. For example I get black listed by hotmail sometimes and some of my prospects do not get mails because of that, or freenet or all other little email providers
[17:07:09] <lunaphyte> exs: ##email
[17:07:12] <lunaphyte> not here
[17:07:21] <lunaphyte> [for the third time now...]
[17:07:27] <rob0> Your ESP maintains positive IP reputation and feedback loops with major receivers. But, yes, ##email
[17:07:42] <exs> lunaphyte: relax little bit
[17:07:43] <rob0> before you go,
[17:07:47] <rob0> !fcrdns
[17:07:47] <knoba> rob0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost
[17:08:00] <rob0> ^^ this might help, as well as
[17:08:08] <rob0> !dnswl
[17:08:08] <knoba> rob0: http://www.dnswl.org The DNS Whitelist protects against false positives from known good senders
[17:08:16] <rob0> !dnswl.org
[17:08:16] <knoba> rob0: Error: "dnswl.org" is not a valid command.
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[17:08:17] <lunaphyte> exs: huh? why are you so wound up, demanding others "relax"? don't do that. instead, just follow the advice given
[17:08:41] <exs> lunaphyte: ok I heared you
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