March 30, 2019 
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Anywhere.)[14:20:12] *** e-i-k-e <e-i-k-e!~e-i-k-e@55d4f03d.access.ecotel.net> has joined #postfix[14:21:07] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:21:51] <e-i-k-e> i'm just setting up postfix as satellite system on my home server and the external smtp server is telling me "530 Sender rejected (in reply to MAIL FROM command)" any suggestions how i should approach this issue?[14:36:35] *** ddBz_ <ddBz_!~gary@cpe-67-246-27-81.nycap.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[14:40:06] <dakar> i see SMTPUTF8 is required, but was not offered by host my.mail.server[private/dovecot-lmtp] in the logs[14:40:40] <dakar> the docs say smtputf8_enable is default: yes so im not sure why im getting this warning?[14:43:03] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.235.143> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:46:41] *** ddBz_ <ddBz_!~gary@cpe-67-246-27-81.nycap.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[14:46:47] <jimpop> dakar: smtpd_discard_ehlo_keywords ?[14:51:08] <dakar> not set[14:55:31] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.235.143> has joined #postfix[14:57:28] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@188-230-142-97.dynamic.t-2.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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IIUC if you have accepted SMTPUTF8 mail inbound you have to deliver it (in your case to LMTP) with SMTPUTF8.[17:41:22] <rob0> !tell ttpearso dnswl[17:41:22] <knoba> ttpearso: "dnswl" : http://www.dnswl.org The DNS Whitelist protects against false positives from known good senders[17:42:35] <rob0> I have my alternate site also listed, so if I have to move, I can go through that site during the changeover.[17:46:06] <ttpearso> Good idea, thx[18:05:37] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[18:10:47] <dakar> rob0 so the issue is with dovecot's configuration, although the warning comes from postfix?[18:12:14] <rob0> SMTPUTF8 is required, but was not offered by host my.mail.server[private/dovecot-lmtp][18:13:05] <dakar> if i set smtputf8_enable=no, would postfix reject the email ?[18:13:35] <dakar> if dovecot doesnt support it, i assume it would make more sense to deny the email rather than accept it and not deliver?[18:15:07] <rob0> Chances are, the sending client will also require SMTPUTF8 from you, yes.[18:15:35] <rob0> You won't reject the mail, but the client won't be able to deliver.[18:16:44] <dakar> this is the first time i encounter this warning so practically speaking i dont think it would be a great deal if i can't take an email once every few years. that said, i do wish and hope to be doing things correctly and without holding too long with "new things[18:17:23] <dakar> if this isnt supported by dovecot/amavisd/whatever, im not going to invent stuff here, but it is, then i'd like to have it working[18:43:10] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[19:06:27] *** baffled <baffled!~baffled@grumpy.reisers.ca> has joined #postfix[19:11:52] <baffled> Hi folks, I'm having a problem sincing upgrading my postfix with debian sid where some mail addresses, mostly gmail, accountsare getting rejected with 552 5.3.4 chunk size to large errors. Other mail seems to get through just fine. Can anyone lend my a clew or pointer to this problem?[19:17:03] <n_1-c_k> baffled: not familiar with that myself but look in the mailing list archives for this month, that or v. similar has been discussed.[19:18:10] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@188-230-142-97.dynamic.t-2.net> has joined #postfix[19:21:01] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:22:12] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has joined #postfix[19:22:41] <lunaphyte> baffled: what previous and current postfix versions?[19:34:14] *** epony <epony!~epony@unaffiliated/epony> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:38:46] <baffled> lunaphyte: I'm not sure about previous version but the current is 3.4.1.[19:40:08] <baffled> n_1-c_k: I'll try to find that archive thanks.[19:42:46] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.235.143> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:43:20] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.235.143> has joined #postfix[19:45:15] <lunaphyte> baffled: you probably have message_size_limit set to 0[19:45:18] <lunaphyte> don't do that[19:45:39] <lunaphyte> it's irresponsible, even without the bug[19:46:41] <baffled> lunaphyte: Yes, I do have that set. This has changed as common?[19:46:51] <lunaphyte> has changed as common?[19:46:56] <lunaphyte> i don't understand what you're asking[19:47:07] <lunaphyte> regardless, just don't do that[19:48:01] <baffled> Okay, I'll change it and see if it makes a difference but then, why only a problem with gmail addresses? 'grin'[19:48:59] <lunaphyte> because of how some internal postfix pieces work that relate to message_size_limit[19:49:18] <lunaphyte> the issue itself is not operationally related to message_size_limit, it's just a "coincidence"[19:50:24] <baffled> Okay, weird but I'll give it a try and see how it goes.[19:50:46] <lunaphyte> there's a blessing in disguise - or really not even in disguise - just a blessing, period, in this "bug", since it exposes a setting which has been set to something it shouldn't be[19:51:27] <baffled> True, I guess I really don't truly have infinite space for very large messages.[19:51:54] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.235.143> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:52:03] <lunaphyte> yes, limits exist [and should be enforced] for a very good reason[19:52:11] <lunaphyte> basic system administration 101 type stuff[19:53:31] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.235.143> has joined #postfix[20:04:44] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[20:11:36] <rob0> You know what is in Room 101, Winston. Everyone knows what is in Room 101.[20:11:54] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[20:13:51] <rob0> baffled, the use of "message_size_limit = 0" was never documented and thus not supported. The new CHUNKING feature broke that undocumented feature.[20:36:17] *** shibboleth <shibboleth!~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth> has joined #postfix[20:51:12] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:53:38] *** epony <epony!~epony@unaffiliated/epony> has joined #postfix[20:54:29] <baffled> Thanks rob0 I just read through the mailing list archive and changed the value and that appears to have done the trick.[20:54:54] <baffled> Thank you everyone you were very helpful.[20:59:42] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-104-34-204-52.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[21:03:02] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:03:20] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[21:04:18] *** Psi-Jack <Psi-Jack!psi-jack@unaffiliated/psi-jack> has joined #postfix[21:06:28] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:17:10] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[21:17:58] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-147-49.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Quit: rsx)[21:26:11] *** yoavz- <yoavz-!~yoavz@82.166.176.37> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:26:18] *** yoavz <yoavz!~yoavz@82.166.176.37> has joined #postfix[21:29:08] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:47:34] *** i1nfusion1 <i1nfusion1!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:47:34] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@207.154.217.17> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:48:51] *** i1nfusion <i1nfusion!~i1nfusion@207.154.217.17> has joined #postfix[21:48:54] *** i1nfusion1 <i1nfusion1!~i1nfusion@46.101.134.251> has joined #postfix[22:08:15] *** sloucher <sloucher!~Thunderbi@145.120.24.136.in-addr.arpa> has quit IRC (Quit: sloucher)[22:17:29] *** sloucher <sloucher!~Thunderbi@2604:5500:c128:d600::d09> has joined #postfix[22:29:53] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[22:36:03] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.235.143> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:36:55] *** jwhitmore <jwhitmore!~jwhitmore@109.76.235.143> has joined #postfix[22:45:33] *** GeneralDiscourse is now known as ephemer0l[22:55:09] *** e-i-k-e <e-i-k-e!~e-i-k-e@55d4f03d.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:55:28] *** rokhuz <rokhuz!~rokhuz@138.201.0.216> has joined #postfix[22:56:42] *** sloucher <sloucher!~Thunderbi@2604:5500:c128:d600::d09> has quit IRC (Quit: sloucher)[23:03:42] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:12:51] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[23:28:23] *** sloucher <sloucher!~Thunderbi@2604:5500:c128:d600::d09> has joined #postfix[23:28:31] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:38:17] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[23:45:07] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@unaffiliated/ucio> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:56:56] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@bla.mode42.one> has joined #postfix[23:56:56] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@bla.mode42.one> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:56:56] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@unaffiliated/ucio> has joined #postfix