March 28, 2019 
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March 28, 2019 [00:08:11] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@cpe-67-246-27-81.nycap.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[00:10:37] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:10:58] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has joined #postfix[00:11:12] <riv> pj: very well articulated. i ran into this problem the other day. the config i was using is one that has been distilled over time and has the message_size_limit in it which i eventually worked out the chunking support was taking as a literal ..[00:12:04] <riv> ended up disabling chunking using smtpd_discard_ehlo_keywords = chunking, silent_discard however whilst that works, i seem to get a log line for every discard event, despite silent_discard, but i have bigger fish to fry now. heh.[00:12:49] <riv> s/message_size_limit/messaage_size_limit = 0/[00:19:03] <t-ask> Maybe there is an option (4) warning + rewriting =0 as default size setting[00:20:28] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@cpe-67-246-27-81.nycap.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:23:15] <t-ask> which might be a bit odd, because then the config doesn't show the actual size,therefore better option (3) I guess[00:39:16] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[00:56:31] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[00:59:04] *** Penguin_ <Penguin_!~xwQ5kwYl6@our.systems.are.full.of.penguins.at.penguinsystems.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:00:41] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[01:00:49] *** Penguin_ <Penguin_!~xwQ5kwYl6@our.systems.are.full.of.penguins.at.penguinsystems.net> has joined #postfix[01:20:01] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[01:20:20] <pj> t-ask: I would rather warn plus make it do what people have become accustomed to it doing, which is unlimited.[01:20:57] <pj> so it won't break people's config but poke them until they fix it.[01:38:21] <pj> bleh, the right place to check for that is at start time, not every time a message is pushed into postfix. Too much work to figure that out right now.[01:39:10] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[01:49:09] <pj> I just posted to the ml, we'll see if it gets a response: http://postfix.1071664.n5.nabble.com/quot-Chunk-exceeds-message-size-limit-quot-td100541.html (scroll to the bottom)[02:08:58] *** gabizou <gabizou!~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org> has joined #postfix[02:22:01] *** Bebef <Bebef!sbreit@phobos.bebef.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:22:52] *** Bebef <Bebef!sbreit@phobos.bebef.de> has joined #postfix[02:29:07] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[02:36:26] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:37:05] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[02:54:09] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.46.25> has joined #postfix[03:02:45] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.46.25> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:08:07] *** hjjg_ <hjjg_!~hg@p5B221B82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[03:10:18] *** Tyklol <Tyklol!tykling@znc.tyknet.dk> has joined #postfix[03:11:00] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.46.25> has joined #postfix[03:11:17] *** hjjg <hjjg!~hg@p5B221B3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:11:29] *** Tykling <Tykling!tykling@znc.tyknet.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:25:48] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.46.25> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[03:27:36] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[03:28:00] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:51:42] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[03:52:48] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has joined #postfix[04:00:10] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:00:17] *** eelstrebor_ <eelstrebor_!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[04:15:25] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has joined #postfix[04:28:17] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[04:29:22] *** eelstrebor_ <eelstrebor_!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[05:02:03] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@mail.capmega.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[05:54:12] *** _cr_ <_cr_!~quassel@srv.ncxs.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[05:54:54] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-128-59.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[06:24:36] *** _cr_ <_cr_!~quassel@srv.ncxs.de> has joined #postfix[06:44:32] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[06:45:56] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:46:17] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[06:47:20] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[07:33:56] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.11> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[07:47:30] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.13> has joined #postfix[07:48:40] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[08:09:00] *** level7 <level7!~quassel@31.44.17.250> has joined #postfix[08:26:59] *** ghoti_ <ghoti_!ghoti@dev-160.experiencepoint.com> has joined #postfix[08:28:46] *** ghoti <ghoti!ghoti@dev-160.experiencepoint.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:29:37] *** Bahhumbug <Bahhumbug!jrd@psychotic/admin/jrd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:29:52] *** Bahhumbug <Bahhumbug!jrd@psychotic/admin/jrd> has joined #postfix[08:58:08] *** t-ask <t-ask!t-ask@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/task/x-53939944> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:14:19] *** garo <garo!~garo-ircc@ptr-1pln4z5lj688qvq31g1.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #postfix[09:20:54] *** eugenmayer <eugenmayer!~eugenmaye@pD95DA2AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[09:22:03] <eugenmayer> having a user-name for sasl_passwd like 'foo\bar.local" how would i properly escape that in the sasl_passd file? seems like just adding foo\bar.local:mypassword fails during autentication[09:22:11] <eugenmayer> should i just quote it?[09:36:35] <eugenmayer> everytime postfix connects as a client to an Exchange server i see tihs warning ( GSSAPI /NTLM ) but then then postfix uses STARTTLS and gets a proper Login auth: https://www.pastiebin.com/5c9c875142e13 .. i am alrady using "smtp_tls_security_level=encrypt" to make TLS mandatory but still it kind of seems that postfix tries to auth without TLS first[09:37:35] <eugenmayer> !showconfig[09:37:35] <knoba> eugenmayer: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[09:37:39] <eugenmayer> !pastebin[09:37:39] <knoba> eugenmayer: "pastebin" : A pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, pastebin.ca, paste.ee, ptpb.pw, ix.io and many others. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[09:38:20] <eugenmayer> https://dpaste.de/QpNH is the master.cf and smpttls is used[09:43:09] <eugenmayer> it seems like https://serverfault.com/questions/380603/smtp-offered-no-supported-auth-mechanisms-gssapi-ntlm/380606#380606 but in my case auth is most probably mandatory[09:44:23] <eugenmayer> ( i tried this, anon sending though that 587 is denied for that IP, so there must be an auth involved in my case, but it seems to try AUTH before STARTTLS first, then AUTH after[09:44:56] <eugenmayer> i already defined: smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = plain, login .. so postfix should even know that the pre STARTTLS auth mechanisms are not supported by it,[09:45:51] <eugenmayer> maybe smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes is needed[09:49:26] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[09:51:34] <eugenmayer> tried this https://serverfault.com/a/909900/281162 .. does not work, still the warning ( which is cosmetic, it works )[09:56:04] <eugenmayer> ok -o smtpd_tls_auth_only=yes was stupid, this was for incoming connection, sorry[09:58:16] <pj> it's also obsolete[09:59:53] <eugenmayer> it more and more seems like a postfix bug to me ;/[10:00:38] <eugenmayer> all options are on "force TLS, force auth" and still postfix tries auth before STARTLS once, then STARTTLS then a proper AUTH again[10:01:22] <eugenmayer> i changed it in the master.cf to be even more specific: https://dpaste.de/M2dA[10:01:31] <eugenmayer> but the same wanring[10:03:45] <eugenmayer> it seems like postfix struggles with the fact, that the submissoin port 587 also offers auth before STARTTLS ( server side ) , which might be unusual in actual "internet" cases. But for exchange, in those cases NTLM/GSSAPI are still "secure" auth methods and they are offered, and postfix jumps the gun and tries and AUTH eventhough it does not support it and those are even blacklisted in my case smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = plain, login[10:16:38] <eugenmayer> i also checked that smtp_send_dummy_mail_auth is not used .. i have postfix 3.1 so this should no longer be on by default[10:27:20] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@cpe-67-246-27-81.nycap.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[10:35:53] <Kelsar> eugenmayer: you are sending mail right?[10:36:38] <Kelsar> then smtpd is wrong daemon -> http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#client_tls_levels[10:41:08] <eugenmayer> i have send the elaborated version of the question on the mailing list[10:41:52] *** eugenmayer1 <eugenmayer1!~eugenmaye@pD95DA2AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[10:41:52] *** eugenmayer <eugenmayer!~eugenmaye@pD95DA2AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:43:35] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[10:44:21] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:46:00] *** eugenmayer1 <eugenmayer1!~eugenmaye@pD95DA2AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:46:40] *** eugenmayer <eugenmayer!~eugenmaye@pD95DA2AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[10:47:01] <eugenmayer> Currently i think postfix might be missbehaving ( cosmetically ) - i cannot see how this is a configuration issue / mistae by now nor see that the Exchange server does missbehave. With my current configuration, the warning should not be printed at all and the actual AUTH in EHLO before STARTTLS should be ignore ( by configuration ) out of several reasons: starttls is on =encrypt. the issue becomes non-cosmetic and harmful though[10:47:46] <eugenmayer> if one does not "blacklist" gssapi/NTLM. in th econfiguration. then, eventhough STARTTLS is set as required, psotfix will use that AUTH and try NTLM before even doing STARTTLS and then fail ( since it cannot in my case ).[10:48:50] <eugenmayer> I am not sure those pre STARTTLS AUTH offering on GSSAPI/NTLM is new in Exchange 2016, but it makes sense for a windows driven submission port where outlook or whatever can authenticate using this SSO methods also on plaingtext connections, since the tickets are encrypted themselfs anyway[11:14:06] *** Serus <Serus!~Serus@unaffiliated/serus> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:14:23] *** Inray <Inray!~inray@2a02:587:122c:d500:b8d5:8fa2:200d:6eec> has joined #postfix[11:14:33] *** Inray <Inray!~inray@2a02:587:122c:d500:b8d5:8fa2:200d:6eec> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:21:26] *** t-ask <t-ask!~t-ask@217.111.73.154> has joined #postfix[11:26:12] *** Fire-Dragon-DoL <Fire-Dragon-DoL!~Fire-Drag@2605:de00:1:1:4a:15:0:2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:26:12] *** Serus <Serus!~Serus@unaffiliated/serus> has joined #postfix[11:35:08] *** Fire-Dragon-DoL <Fire-Dragon-DoL!~Fire-Drag@web556.webfaction.com> has joined #postfix[11:44:45] *** eugenmayer <eugenmayer!~eugenmaye@pD95DA2AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[11:48:45] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[11:52:00] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[12:00:02] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:01:42] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[12:15:37] <KickPost> where I find a a restryctions to allow only domain who have MX ?[12:16:22] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has joined #postfix[12:32:51] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[12:33:31] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has joined #postfix[12:52:32] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has joined #postfix[13:01:06] *** kermit <kermit!~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:05:42] <survietamine> idk, maybe if you have some dns lookup table[13:12:40] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[13:25:04] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has joined #postfix[13:27:18] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@cpe-67-246-27-81.nycap.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[13:27:37] <lunaphyte> there is no such restriction to my knowledge[13:44:40] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robson@177.42.34.98> has joined #postfix[13:50:35] *** epony <epony!~epony@unaffiliated/epony> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:53:50] <KickPost> lunaphyte: you have right[13:54:55] <KickPost> only from check_policy_service and mxfilter[14:02:53] *** Hoffe <Hoffe!~Hoffe@81.7.169.243> has joined #postfix[14:04:15] *** epony <epony!~epony@unaffiliated/epony> has joined #postfix[14:31:39] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:38:09] *** Tyklol is now known as Tykling[14:39:28] *** alexandre9099 <alexandre9099!~alexandre@unaffiliated/alexandre9099> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:39:55] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~diemuzi@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[14:40:53] *** level7 <level7!~quassel@31.44.17.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[14:43:32] *** alexandre9099 <alexandre9099!~alexandre@unaffiliated/alexandre9099> has joined #postfix[14:49:16] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@cpe-67-246-27-81.nycap.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[14:50:31] *** t-ask <t-ask!~t-ask@217.111.73.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[15:01:54] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@cpe-67-246-27-81.nycap.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[15:02:53] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[15:04:24] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[15:04:24] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[15:27:44] *** Hoffe <Hoffe!~Hoffe@81.7.169.243> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:33:26] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[15:34:27] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[15:47:30] <rob0> KickPost, while it might not hurt much, I doubt there would be much benefit from that.[15:50:31] <KickPost> in my postfix I need allow from one ip and specyfic non rfc address like <#@[]>[15:50:48] <KickPost> only regexp map ? or comething ?[15:51:28] <KickPost> in log "warning: Illegal address syntax from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx in MAIL command: <#@[]>"[15:51:41] <KickPost> this is worrning but nod delivered[15:51:42] *** ghoti_ is now known as ghoti[15:52:04] <KickPost> in header check ?[15:52:07] <rob0> does the "[]" contain an IP address?[15:52:16] <KickPost> no[15:52:24] <KickPost> only <#@[]>[15:52:26] <rob0> that's not a valid email hostname[15:52:35] <rob0> Postfix can't use that[15:52:36] <KickPost> thats send local stupid software ...[15:53:07] <KickPost> warning: Illegal address syntax from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx^Cn MAIL command: <#@[]>[15:53:09] <KickPost> from logs[15:53:14] <rob0> I don't know of any way to work with that. Maybe try Exim or Sendmail?[15:53:18] <KickPost> i known this is stupid but i need[15:53:29] <KickPost> in qmail works[15:53:56] <rob0> ok, qmail[15:54:45] <rob0> [that's surprising, because one of qmail's selling points was "strict standards compliance"][15:55:18] <KickPost> i migrate from qmail to postfix[15:55:57] <rob0> again, I do not know of a way for Postfix to work with an illegal address[15:56:40] <rob0> maybe you can keep a separate qmail to accept that junk and deliver it where you need[15:57:38] <rob0> Postfix for regular Internet mail, qmail for your broken junkware clients.[16:00:41] <KickPost> hm i try or forcing programmer to change that or I kill him[16:02:08] <rob0> :)[16:02:23] *** JayC3 <JayC3!~JayC@1.231.132.17> has joined #postfix[16:02:29] <survietamine> some developers forbid valid addresses in forms and some others use invalid addresses :p[16:02:42] <tuxick> ?[16:02:52] *** JayC3 <JayC3!~JayC@1.231.132.17> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:03:06] <survietamine> I often see web forms not allowing valid characters in email address field[16:03:19] <survietamine> also sometimes in firstname/lastname[16:03:33] <survietamine> like 2 chars is not enough... crazy developpers[16:03:37] <tuxick> clowns are everywhere[16:06:04] <rob0> Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right! 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