[00:10:46] <pinPoint> Zerberus: you mean that sasl_auth line does not belong in submission section?
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[00:24:41] <pinPoint> ok
[00:26:53] <pinPoint> Yeah I have it as no in my manual server but I should remove that line completely anyway.
[00:28:13] <pinPoint> lunaphyte: also... smtpd_sender_restrictions = is it even necessary in main.cf? I thought smtpd_recipient_restrictions is the way to go also
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[00:51:19] <lunaphyte> i'd suggest not using smtpd_sender_restrictions, yes
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[09:55:17] <xjsx> I'm getting a lot of spam sent into my server. The subjects, are usually the same. Sex, Online Pharmacy, F* buddy, etc..
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[09:58:02] <colo-work> set up postscreen, set up a content filter (e. g. amavis or rspamd)
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[19:05:20] <wr> want to install postfix+dovecot in a centOS 7, my best link to follow on this? kinda new on mail server setup
[19:06:21] <lunaphyte> wr: both pieces of software come with documentation. that's what you should use
[19:11:04] <rob0> !basic
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[19:32:17] <pj> !tell wr centos
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<knoba> wr: "centos" : New postfix packages are available for all current versions of CentOS, RHEL, SL and other RHEL-derivatives from the GhettoForge gf-plus repository at www.ghettoforge.org. See http://ghettoforge.org/index.php/Postfix3 for more info.
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[20:12:04] <pj> !cheatsheet
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[20:43:59] <pinPoint> pj: what is that cheat sheet?
[20:44:17] <pj> pinPoint: read it if you want.
[20:44:33] <pj> the second one is highly recommended.
[20:44:58] <pinPoint> I want to get into those whitelists... such a pain
[20:48:28] <rob0> well, I wrote the second one, but I highly recommended the first one from ~15 years ago, as it helped me understand how access restrictions work.
[20:49:26] <rob0> Granted, with postscreen it is much less important to have good smtpd restrictions.
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[21:28:00] <pinPoint> rob0: You have a test email box that you can share your postfix main/master.cf? via pastebin and sensitive info removed of course.
[21:28:12] <pinPoint> oh and dovecot too. :D
[21:29:03] <jaybe> both come with examples
[21:29:10] <jaybe> and base defUlt configurations
[21:29:53] <jaybe> i found the workaround.org articles and comments, along with the postfix docs, to be enlightening and helpful
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[21:33:02] <pinPoint> jaybe: ah
[21:33:24] * pinPoint when I'm done frelling around with bind/dns. I'll read into it.
[21:33:37] <pinPoint> anyone here manage to get DNSSEC/DANE working on their postfix?
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[21:45:36] <n_1-c_k> pinPoint: I believe I did, yes.
[21:45:59] <pinPoint> sweet
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[21:49:11] <opilab> hi everyone, im on ubuntu 18.04 and im getting an error with postfix, within master.cfg ive only enabled (uncommented) submission but im getting this error: fatal: master_spawn: exec /usr/lib/postfix/sbin/smtpd: No such file or directory
[21:49:28] <opilab> the same error can be said for pickup too, "no such file..."
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[21:54:43] <opilab> i notice that all entired have a "y" in the chroot field when im just running a standard config, could this be why?
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[22:00:00] <n_1-c_k> opilab: I suggest you run 'dpkg-reconfigure postfix' and hope it can get you back to a sane config.
[22:04:07] <opilab> n_1-c_k: thank you this worked, it turned that i hadnt installed postfix? or i was using some stripped form that came with ubuntu? either way it's all good now
[22:06:41] <n_1-c_k> opilab: jolly good show.
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<opilab> please could someone look over these two lines and let me know where im going wrong? https://pastebin.com/s8ST8K2h im getting a "in parameter smtpd_relay_restrictions or smtpd_recipient_restrictions, specify at least one working instance of: reject_unauth_destination, defer_unauth_destination, reject, defer, defer_if_permit or check_relay_domains
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[22:32:07] <pinPoint> what's with the = in those lines?
[22:32:54] <opilab> as in the spaces? ive been through dozens of combos at this point i thought it wouldnt hurt
[22:32:55] <pinPoint> nvm, this is master.cf, my bad
[22:33:24] <pinPoint> what is the actual error in mail/syslog?
[22:33:48] <opilab> postfix/smtpd[5342]: fatal: in parameter smtpd_relay_restrictions or smtpd_recipient_restrictions, specify at least one working instance of: reject_unauth_destination, defer_unauth_destination, reject, defer, defer_if_permit or check_relay_domains
[22:35:31] <pinPoint> if this is in master.cf then use commas to seperate the parameters.
[22:36:15] <opilab> ah thank you
[22:36:39] <opilab> by the way what is the correct time to place smtpd_recipient_restrictions in master.cf vs main.cf?
[22:37:22] <pinPoint> I just have this in my master.cf for submission. -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
[22:37:22] <rob0> 16:40 UTC
[22:38:04] <opilab> ok awesome thank you ill try out your config and take a look at this webpage
[22:38:52] <pinPoint> I didn't see master.cf in there when I ran quickly through it.
[22:39:15] <opilab> pinPoint: there doesn't seem to be a 3.x version either
[22:39:24] <opilab> pinPoint: do you not have any relay restrictions?
[22:40:22] <pinPoint> smtpd_relay_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated reject_unauth_destination
[22:41:57] <opilab> pinPoint: i'm totally new to how email works so please correct me, but the idea of relaying is to ask the mail server to pass on the email to another address, does persmitting sasl authenticated clients allow guests to take advantage of relaying along as they are sasl authenticated?
[22:42:00] <pinPoint> smtpd_relay_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination
[22:42:55] <pinPoint> I think that is correct.
[22:43:06] <opilab> pinPoint: is there a use case for that?
[22:43:29] <pinPoint> I've test for OpenRelay and it isn't one. But I can use another site to send mail through it via authenticated tls
[22:44:05] <pinPoint> Like a wordpress site that wants smtp to send updates/notifications/etc.
[22:44:30] <opilab> ahhh that makes sense
[22:44:41] <pinPoint> or the smtp is actually smtp mail plugin for wordpress which allows 587.
[22:45:37] <pinPoint> I'm new to it myself, weeks in, I've messed around with tutorials but never read this deep into it.
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[22:47:22] <opilab> i think its so neat that email being an open standard makes it one of the rare times (excluding crawling) that google, an almost billion dollar, company has to talk to my linux box
[22:48:02] <opilab> and i just got my first email w/ postfix, thanks for the help on this
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[22:50:49] <pinPoint> sure thing
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[22:51:01] <pinPoint> did google put you into spam on first round?
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[22:52:42] <opilab> pinPoint: yes it just did, just setting up spf and dkin, what about you?
[22:52:47] <opilab> *dkim
[22:54:08] <pinPoint> it always does that... no matter what. google, big dog email providers feel special.
[22:54:27] <pinPoint> I just have to take it out of spam to inbox once then I get accepted in that account only.
[22:55:19] <opilab> huh i see
[22:55:26] <opilab> i wonder if it's a blacklisted ip thing
[22:55:31] <opilab> are you hosted on a vps?
[22:56:04] <pinPoint> no it is not a blist thing, yes it is a vps. clean ip, dkim,spf,dmarc
[22:56:26] <pinPoint> rotating ips is easy with vps at digitalocean.
[22:56:54] <opilab> looking at a lookup my ip is clean too
[22:56:56] <opilab> thats not good
[22:57:41] <pinPoint> not good?
[22:58:13] <opilab> just as in annoying, it would be nice if my emails didnt end up in spam
[22:58:58] <pinPoint> getting whitelisted is something to try but getting into one is hard.
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[23:04:46] <opilab> quick q: i naively set up my email server to run on my root domain, should i switch it to mail.[domain].com?
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[23:10:40] <pinPoint> I think if the server is getting used for other things too then I would go for mail. or box.
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[23:11:24] * pinPoint that's probably not phrased well either so you know.
[23:11:45] <opilab> gotcha thanks
[23:11:52] <opilab> im thinking it helps too w/ auto setups
[23:11:57] <opilab> (in mail clients)
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[23:32:55] <_anne_> !welcome
[23:32:55] <knoba> _anne_: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck!
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[23:37:28] <[sr]> hi
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[23:38:30] <[sr]> small help, i just forgot after dozens of servers configured :S where do i change the sender to send emails via command line? they always get out with username@hostname, , i have myhostname = some-valid-domain.com
[23:38:40] <[sr]> what am i missing?
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[23:40:22] <[sr]> in all other servers i just changed myhostname in main.cf
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[23:49:43] <rob0> !mail
[23:49:43] <knoba> rob0: "mail" : mail(1) (also known as mailx(1) or bsd-mailx) is not a Postfix-provided command. For help with it, see its man page. More powerful, commonly available console- and CLI-based MUAs include mutt, alpine and heirloom mailx (likewise, not supported here.)
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