March 12, 2019 
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March 12, 2019 [00:00:26] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@188-230-142-97.dynamic.t-2.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[03:20:24] <rob0> !dovecot_sasl[03:20:24] <knoba> rob0: "dovecot_sasl" : See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PostfixAndDovecotSASL for instructions to configure Dovecot SASL for Postfix. See also: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_dovecot[03:26:42] <kermit> they're coming from GSuite and Outlook, I don't think they support that.[03:27:07] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@109.202.107.5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:30:19] * rob0 is confused[03:30:55] <rob0> Why do they need to relay through you if they can send directly from GSuite or Outlook?[03:31:55] <rob0> No, there is no safe/reasonable way to allow relaying based on a sender address. That WILL be exploited.[03:32:21] *** oculux <oculux!~oculux@213.152.162.94> has joined #postfix[03:34:07] <rob0> I wouldn't think GSuite or Outlook would support ANY kind of indirect sending.[03:34:49] <rob0> So maybe your first step should be to consult their help desks?[03:51:53] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[03:56:38] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[03:59:11] *** BoomerBile <BoomerBile!~MetaPhaze@96-42-197-150.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com> has joined #postfix[03:59:19] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@mx1.capmegamail.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:05:54] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[04:39:56] <CCFL_Man> rob0: thank you for your help[04:50:15] *** KronTMX <KronTMX!~textual@177.243.71.92> has joined #postfix[04:50:35] *** KronTMX <KronTMX!~textual@177.243.71.92> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:57:03] *** Wioxjk <Wioxjk!~poppels@81-235-33-215-no286.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[05:55:00] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[06:07:30] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-98-215-100-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[06:09:34] <pj> kermit: I think you will find that both outlook and gsuite do support authentication.[06:21:10] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[06:26:37] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[06:28:32] *** jalalsfs_ <jalalsfs_!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[06:30:46] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[06:34:46] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:35:12] *** n_1-c_k 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<sphex!~nobody@38.133.24.221> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:43:40] *** sphex <sphex!~nobody@38.133.24.221> has joined #postfix[08:53:50] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:01:34] <pj> !tell happydude check_sender_access[09:01:34] <knoba> happydude: "check_sender_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the MAIL FROM address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[09:34:08] *** imm__ <imm__!~imm_@dh207-94-202.xnet.hr> has joined #postfix[09:34:41] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[09:34:56] *** imm_ <imm_!~imm_@unaffiliated/imm/x-7821412> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:51:49] *** ychaouche <ychaouche!~ychaouche@197.201.1.50> has joined #postfix[09:51:59] <ychaouche> hello #postfix[09:52:19] <ychaouche> do you guys recommend to set the smtpd_helo_required to yes ?[09:53:55] <ychaouche> from : https://genius.it/16697093/linux-audit.com/postfix-hardening-guide-for-security-and-privacy[09:54:17] <tuxick> i'd do that[09:54:31] <tuxick> in fact helo checks are my #1 line of defense[09:56:15] <tuxick> "186-208-231-11.netcom.psi.br" is definitely not for me[09:56:41] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@77.59.212.138> has joined #postfix[09:56:51] <ychaouche> so most mail servers are correctly configured to greet properly before sending mail and most clients that don't greet are probably just spam bots ?[09:57:07] <tuxick> in my experience, yes[09:57:19] <ychaouche> ok[09:57:21] <tuxick> well there's the occasional exchange idiots[09:58:05] <tuxick> but they'd find out soon enough[09:58:15] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:58:42] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[09:58:42] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[09:58:47] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:00:00] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[10:05:27] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:13:26] <ychaouche> I wonder if the VRFY is really popular[10:13:53] <ychaouche> I can't find any occurrence of VRFY in all my past mail.log* files[10:14:47] *** imm__ <imm__!~imm_@dh207-94-202.xnet.hr> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[10:15:05] *** imm_ <imm_!~imm_@unaffiliated/imm/x-7821412> has joined #postfix[10:19:34] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:24:10] <tuxick> you don't want vrfy[10:24:37] <tuxick> at least not exposed to outside world[10:37:35] <pj> ESMTP requires the client to issue a EHLO just to get the list of supported options, and ESMTP has been around so long now that I'm not aware if anyone doesn't do it.[10:37:57] <pj> so it's quite safe to require HELO or EHLO, imo.[10:39:30] <tuxick> well i require valid helo[10:40:22] <tuxick> unlike "undefined.hostname.localhost"[10:43:25] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:43:40] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[10:58:57] *** niee <niee!~user@MINE.THE.GAP.NIEE.LOAN> has joined #postfix[11:07:13] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:08:08] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[11:08:19] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[11:11:37] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:11:45] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[11:18:13] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:19:00] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[12:06:54] *** Nit_ <Nit_!nit@saphire.uk.to> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[12:11:15] *** RadoQ <RadoQ!~cheater@unaffiliated/radoq> has joined #postfix[12:26:30] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[12:31:04] *** Nit_ <Nit_!~Nit@2001:bc8:2ad4:100::1> has joined #postfix[12:41:22] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[12:48:01] *** buddy123 <buddy123!~buddy123@184.75.210.170> has joined #postfix[12:50:58] <buddy123> How bad is it to get an IP listed in Spamhaus PBL blacklist, given that I'll have that IP removed from there? Will it have a negative effect on my mailing abilities to Gmail etc?[12:51:05] <buddy123> Such as going straight to spam[12:53:50] <bhuddah> buddy123: you're either in the list or not.[12:59:01] <rob0> If you have a static IP and a custom PTR set for it, you can get out.[12:59:44] <rob0> Before yu get out, everyone and his brother will reject you.[13:01:37] *** buddy123 <buddy123!~buddy123@184.75.210.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:03:58] *** buddy123 <buddy123!~buddy123@173.254.222.146> has joined #postfix[13:04:23] <rob0> I doubt gmail directly uses Spamhaus lists, but I wouldn't doubt there is some data sharing, at least unidirectional.[13:04:25] <buddy123> so there is no difference between spamhaus pbl to xbl or the others? its eventually all the same?[13:04:58] <buddy123> at least in the sense of a mail server[13:05:51] <rob0> no one here can speak for what gmail does (and if someone here can, s/he won't.)[13:09:13] *** buddy123 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after the ip address; https://bpaste.net/show/622f9b69835a[13:26:03] <lunaphyte> anexit: that would be a question for #amavis[13:26:49] <anexit> It's postfix[13:27:08] <lunaphyte> no, that's amavis[13:29:25] <tuxick> wabbits[13:32:25] <rob0> also, a single line is best done in channel, rather than in a side-scrolling (yuck!) pastebin.[13:33:01] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[13:33:48] <anexit> lunaphyte: Missed the spam amavis part[13:36:07] *** buddy123 <buddy123!~buddy123@194.59.250.242> has joined #postfix[13:36:10] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[13:36:10] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[13:37:22] *** golden_receiver <golden_receiver!~andry@unaffiliated/golden-receiver/x-4949035> has joined #postfix[13:38:40] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[13:40:47] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has 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<damyan^!damyan@mail.0x4711.org> has joined #postfix[15:16:35] *** colo-work <colo-work!~colo-work@78.142.138.4> has joined #postfix[15:33:47] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@2605:e000:3086:e400:5cd0:a8df:b199:4193> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:43:34] *** emcepe <emcepe!~mcp@wolk-project.de> has left #postfix[15:43:51] *** emcepe <emcepe!~mcp@wolk-project.de> has joined #postfix[15:45:15] <anexit> Can you whitelist smtpd_sender_restrictions?[15:46:30] <tuxick> ???[15:47:27] <rob0> Definitely maybe. Can you ask a more specific question, starting with what you hope to accomplish with this idea?[15:54:02] <anexit> I have a check_sender_access file that has a bunch of domains we discard. I would like to create a whitelist of domains that are "OK"[15:54:50] <anexit> This is what I have; https://bpaste.net/show/c3cb4db2d3fd[15:57:00] <rob0> eww[15:57:36] <tuxick> time for a spamfilter[15:57:43] <tuxick> and save many hours/week[15:58:35] <anexit> We run amavis with clam/spamassassin and postscreen and a bunch of RBL's.. the issue is we're targeted and when we blackhole the address it comes off a totally different ipblock[15:59:38] <rob0> simply precede that check_sender_access with another one, or, for that matter, just list the permit domains in the same lookup[16:05:21] <lunaphyte> it's a personal preference, but i like to keep rejection maps and acceptance maps separate[16:05:58] <anexit> No performance issue?[16:06:09] <anexit> Keep it it the same or seperate?[16:09:27] <lunaphyte> i[16:09:44] <lunaphyte> i'd presume there would be no appreciable performance issue[16:17:00] <anexit> Getting; line 2: ignoring unrecognized request[16:19:26] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:19:48] <anexit> Thought it was domain.com OK but it looks like /domain.com/ OK[16:19:57] *** jalalsfs <jalalsfs!~jalalsfs@unaffiliated/jalalsfs> has joined #postfix[16:32:50] <lunaphyte> why are you using regular expressions?[16:32:55] <lunaphyte> do you need them?[16:33:46] * rob0 has been having awful lag and 30+ minutes of no connection at all[16:39:18] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@2605:e000:3086:e400:941:9ed1:302f:b342> has joined #postfix[16:40:04] * rob0 wanted to rant about how horrible the whole thing was, y'all were spared[16:44:33] *** golden_receiver <golden_receiver!~andry@unaffiliated/golden-receiver/x-4949035> has joined #postfix[16:45:25] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-98-215-100-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[16:46:11] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has joined #postfix[16:47:34] <buki> rant away! we can take it[16:49:12] *** xMopx- is now known as xMOpx[16:49:22] *** xMOpx is now known as xMopx[16:50:10] <rob0> dunno if I can dish it out, connection still lags a lot[16:52:03] <tuxick> use mosh[16:52:28] <anexit> lunaphyte: it's pcre[16:52:46] <lunaphyte> [11.32.52] lunaphyte: why are you using regular expressions?[16:52:50] <lunaphyte> [11.32.57] lunaphyte: do you need them?[16:53:08] <anexit> yeah, I have a few in there[16:53:24] <lunaphyte> ok[16:53:49] <lunaphyte> you have domains you are whitelisting, using regular expressions?[16:54:07] <buki> still not an answer to "why"[16:54:21] <anexit> Some of the domains are over 500 characters long and contain some interesting finds[16:54:44] <lunaphyte> the ones to *allow*?[16:54:51] <lunaphyte> not the ones to *reject*[16:55:25] <lunaphyte> that config in the pastebin is pretty much awful to read, btw[16:55:27] <anexit> No, I do not need regex in the allow[16:55:39] <lunaphyte> then use a different map[16:55:43] <lunaphyte> and don't use regex[16:56:03] <anexit> yeah, pcre[16:56:19] <anexit> The one liner?[16:56:21] <anexit> ha[16:56:31] <lunaphyte> one long run-on line, yuck[16:56:57] <anexit> yeah, I'll fix it. Sort of did that in a rush to get postfix on openbsd[17:00:03] <rob0> The awful sidescrolling pastebin had no LOGS, nothing to show what was supposed to match and that it did not match.[17:00:35] <rob0> But the question indicated some misunderstanding about check_sender_access[17:00:40] <rob0> !check_sender_access[17:00:40] <knoba> rob0: "check_sender_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the MAIL FROM address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[17:01:03] <rob0> It will not look up a client IP address or netblock.[17:02:25] *** ychaouche <ychaouche!~ychaouche@197.201.1.50> has left #postfix ("Leaving")[17:03:15] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@45-251-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #postfix[17:03:38] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[17:04:31] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[17:07:39] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@45-251-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:08:34] <rob0> Also, DISCARD is always bad, but especially so when doing it on the basis of spammers' forged sender addresses. A recipe for self-DoS.[17:08:58] <lunaphyte> oh, no :( you were using discard? yuck[17:11:09] <rob0> see? The Internet problems were driving me nuts. ;)[17:14:39] <lunaphyte> ah[17:14:40] <lunaphyte> "a bunch of domains we discard"[17:14:45] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@2605:e000:3086:e400:941:9ed1:302f:b342> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:14:56] <lunaphyte> yes, that's very bad. don't do that[17:15:07] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@77.59.212.138> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:15:09] <rob0> and based on forged sender addresses!![17:15:23] <rob0> so IOW nothing to do with reality[17:24:15] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@45-251-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #postfix[17:24:17] <tuxick> reality is relative[17:24:21] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-188-174-138-217.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[17:28:18] <rob0> If you're related to me, you'd surely try to deny that reality![17:33:08] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@2605:e000:3086:e400:7dcb:7ded:fb93:2f20> has joined #postfix[17:41:12] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@45-251-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:43:34] *** Dice <Dice!9eae1509@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.158.174.21.9> has joined #postfix[17:44:06] <kermit> pj: gsuite/outlook support *outbound* authentication?[17:44:55] *** Dice <Dice!9eae1509@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.158.174.21.9> has left #postfix[17:47:45] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@2605:e000:3086:e400:7dcb:7ded:fb93:2f20> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:47:51] *** ezio <ezio!~ezio@unaffiliated/ezio> has joined #postfix[17:48:26] <ezio> Is there any way to use Gmail as my MX for free?[17:55:18] <anexit> rob0: I think that argument could go on forever.[17:55:41] <ezio> Until the stronger person slays the weaker.[17:56:07] <rob0> ezio, did you ask them, what did they say? Also note, that is not a #postfix question; suitable for ##email maybe.[17:56:30] <rob0> Last I heard, no, they don't host a domain for free.[17:56:38] <ezio> Ah. Thanks. I tried #mail. duhhhh.[18:00:52] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@2605:e000:3086:e400:ced:378a:ae0d:6ff5> has joined #postfix[18:06:58] *** happydud1 <happydud1!~fleish@newhotness.fleish.org> has left #postfix[18:07:12] *** happydude <happydude!~fleish@newhotness.fleish.org> has joined #postfix[18:12:16] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robson@179.83.25.58> has joined #postfix[18:12:18] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:15:07] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[18:29:07] *** alexandre9099 <alexandre9099!~alexandre@unaffiliated/alexandre9099> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.2 - https://znc.in)[18:30:15] *** alexandre9099 <alexandre9099!~alexandre@unaffiliated/alexandre9099> has joined #postfix[18:37:33] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[18:39:06] <anexit> So I have the pcre of /\=sometext/ REJECT, but that matches domain OK, can't have it both ways, no?[18:39:20] <anexit> Or is there an order where the OK needs to be first/last or last/first.[18:39:35] <rob0> arrrgh[18:41:48] <tuxick> in some regions that means "your wife is a big hippo"[18:42:05] * thumbs stares at tuxick[18:43:43] * rob0 stares at tuxick's wife[18:44:43] <thumbs> rob0: creep.[18:45:13] * rob0 can live with that assessment[18:46:21] <anexit> For example I have /sexonthebeach/ REJECT but for some reason I need to have /sexonthebeach at beachman dot com/ OK[18:46:56] <rob0> it would all depend on the context of what you are trying to match.[18:46:59] <anexit> Or replace that with bighippo[18:50:06] <anexit> https://bpaste.net/show/f2d9eb095e66[18:50:11] <anexit> Hopefully that makes sense[18:50:41] <tuxick> still sounds like a job for spamfilter to me[18:52:27] <lunaphyte> over, and over, and over, again...[18:52:37] <lunaphyte> don't use regular expressions for that[18:52:48] <lunaphyte> just use literal domain names[18:52:53] <lunaphyte> for whitelisting[18:54:04] <anexit> I've done that in the bypass as well where I just put aol.com[19:04:01] <rob0> A lookup is "key whitespace value", this is an absolute in Postfixia.[19:04:20] <rob0> A key with no value is useless.[19:04:31] * jimpop waits for an automated email from l.d.o about list bounces because clamav blocked a virus from bendel[19:04:43] <jimpop> doh, wrong chan[19:05:19] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[19:14:09] *** ddBz <ddBz!~gary@2605:e000:3086:e400:ced:378a:ae0d:6ff5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:14:12] <rob0> Gee, I bet the logs must be full of complaints about the bypass file, if it is as described.[19:14:42] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has joined #postfix[19:14:55] <rob0> Maybe that's why the /topic says to include LOGS as well as config information.[19:17:00] *** Wioxjk <Wioxjk!~poppels@81-235-33-215-no286.tbcn.telia.com> has joined 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price.. 630mln dingdongs a lot[20:14:29] <anexit> tuxtick: yeah, amavis can do what I want.[20:15:32] <anexit> Postfix can too, it reads the files top to bottom.[20:16:12] <anexit> I think at this point it is better to let sa handle it, appreciate all the help[20:19:19] <tuxick> i could use some dingdongs[20:38:03] *** section1 <section1!~section1@178.33.109.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:52:29] <Franciman> rob0, Hi, I tried setting up a mail for a subdomain[20:52:51] <Franciman> but now, I can't let the PTR record point to both my domain and subdomain[20:53:07] <Franciman> I have @bugbyte.tk as my primary email, and for mailman I used @lists.bugbyte.tk[21:04:20] *** Elisha <Elisha!~elisha@188-230-142-97.dynamic.t-2.net> has joined #postfix[21:12:30] *** happydude <happydude!~fleish@newhotness.fleish.org> has left #postfix[21:20:24] *** andi <andi!~andi@unaffiliated/fr00d> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:22:33] <Zerberus> Franciman: there is no need to, your host has a single identity[21:25:19] <rob0> !myhostname[21:25:19] <knoba> rob0: "myhostname" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The internet hostname of this mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many other configuration parameters.[21:25:25] <rob0> !fcrdns[21:25:25] <knoba> rob0: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[21:25:45] <rob0> PTR has nothing to do with the domains you host.[21:27:18] *** andi___ <andi___!~andi@212.224.127.75> has joined #postfix[21:29:16] *** ek_ is now known as ek[21:32:00] *** puff <puff!~user@c-24-131-208-153.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[21:51:22] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:57:32] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@unaffiliated/ucio> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[21:58:18] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@bla.mode42.one> has joined #postfix[21:58:18] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@bla.mode42.one> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:58:18] *** chkbsd <chkbsd!~ucio@unaffiliated/ucio> has joined #postfix[22:02:25] *** Blubberbop <Blubberbop!~quassel@mx1.capmegamail.com> has joined #postfix[22:02:58] *** bfdi533 <bfdi533!~ebdavison@cpe-76-183-146-8.tx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[22:03:58] <bfdi533> !welcome[22:03:58] <knoba> bfdi533: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![22:04:28] <double-p> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy5UgEVT48Y&[22:04:32] <bfdi533> !showconfig[22:04:32] <knoba> bfdi533: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[22:04:39] <bfdi533> !pastebin[22:04:39] <knoba> bfdi533: "pastebin" : A pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, pastebin.ca, paste.ee, ptpb.pw, ix.io and many others. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[22:10:14] <bfdi533> I need to send all email from dev-* at mydomain dot com to qa at mydomain dot com. I have tried this with a header_checks rule but it does not seem to be working.[22:10:56] <bfdi533> My question is 1) how do I monitor (logs?) what postfix is doing with email address conversions as these do not show up in maillog. and 2) what might be wrong with me header_checks rule?[22:10:59] <bfdi533> https://dpaste.de/EbPk[22:11:15] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:12:02] *** Quimby <Quimby!~Quimby@pollux.local.li> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[22:21:29] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robson@179.83.25.58> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:22:36] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@201.216.253.75> has quit IRC (Quit: gu1lle_)[22:23:04] <bfdi533> I also have some virtual tables which rewrite the email addresses. Is this a sequence thing? Do the header_checks happen before the virtual maps? If so then my regex won't match.[22:32:07] <bfdi533> To be clear, that is everything from dev-* at mydomain dot com, regardless of the To address, needs to be rewritten to send them TO qa at mydomain dot com.[22:32:57] <bfdi533> @getting_help[22:33:02] <bfdi533> !getting_help[22:33:02] <knoba> bfdi533: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[22:33:17] <bfdi533> !relevant_log[22:33:17] <knoba> bfdi533: Error: "relevant_log" is not a valid command.[22:33:18] <bfdi533> s[22:33:21] <bfdi533> !relevant_logs[22:33:21] <knoba> bfdi533: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[22:40:44] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[22:41:30] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:52:48] *** bfdi533 <bfdi533!~ebdavison@cpe-76-183-146-8.tx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:00:57] *** samy1028a <samy1028a!~samy1028c@mx.10.acs.entrustedmail.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:01:15] *** samy1028a <samy1028a!~samy1028c@mx.10.acs.entrustedmail.net> has joined #postfix[23:02:18] <rob0> appears that the whole thing might have centered around a false belief that headers control mail routing[23:02:30] <rob0> oh well[23:08:40] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:09:21] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[23:09:47] *** hipodils1i <hipodils1i!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:10:52] *** hipodilski <hipodilski!~hipo@pc-freak.net> has joined #postfix[23:15:03] *** mikecmpb_ <mikecmpb_!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[23:15:07] *** Inray <Inray!~inray@2a02:587:1216:9500:6416:be8:d0a5:f0a6> has joined #postfix[23:15:28] *** Inray <Inray!~inray@2a02:587:1216:9500:6416:be8:d0a5:f0a6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:16:58] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:27:32] <cybrNaut> i'm getting "fatal: open lock file pid/unix.smtp"[23:27:51] <cybrNaut> it's a consequence of running smtp within a firejail[23:28:09] <cybrNaut> where are those lock files kept?[23:28:25] <cybrNaut> i think i need to whitelist the lockfile location, wherever that is[23:29:33] <Franciman> thanks Zerberus and rob0[23:29:46] <Franciman> so I just add a new MX record for the subdomain and that's all?[23:30:36] * cybrNaut suspects it's data_directory[23:55:45] *** qgTG <qgTG!~qgTG@unaffiliated/qgtg> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:55:48] *** qgTG_ <qgTG_!~qgTG@unaffiliated/qgtg> has joined #postfix