March 4, 2019 
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March 4, 2019 [00:01:21] *** NeddySeagoon8 <NeddySeagoon8!~NeddySeag@186.207.158.3> has joined #postfix[00:01:34] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side!)[00:01:57] *** NeddySeagoon8 <NeddySeagoon8!~NeddySeag@186.207.158.3> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:08:04] *** ItsAVortex <ItsAVortex!~ItsAVorte@2600:380:6847:45dd:a48a:9342:dab3:b60c> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:28:32] *** leochill <leochill!~leochill@2804:2728:101:55d:9129:cf6b:ef89:5610> has joined #postfix[00:34:06] *** leochill <leochill!~leochill@2804:2728:101:55d:9129:cf6b:ef89:5610> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:41:13] *** puff <puff!~user@c-24-131-208-153.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[01:10:23] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:32:00] *** Brekkjern11 <Brekkjern11!~Brekkjern@177.53.136.146> has joined #postfix[01:32:14] *** shbot13 <shbot13!~shbot@168.196.150.234> has 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#postfix[03:47:43] *** FalconSpy9 <FalconSpy9!~FalconSpy@2001:1284:f01b:f987:a2f4:79ff:fea0:74f0> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:00:00] *** csnxs10 <csnxs10!~csnxs@2804:2728:102:296:ecd4:adc0:d474:2365> has joined #postfix[04:00:08] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:00:30] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[04:04:42] *** csnxs10 <csnxs10!~csnxs@2804:2728:102:296:ecd4:adc0:d474:2365> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[04:16:35] *** AlexPortable <AlexPortable!uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdvaaoseyznfvjmy> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:42:31] *** JPT <JPT!~jpt@classified.name> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:44:43] *** acidcock <acidcock!~acidcock@47.196.167.141> has joined #postfix[04:45:39] <acidcock> Has anyone dealt with permission errors when trying to send mail with php?[04:45:39] <acidcock> https://bpaste.net/show/d3b129e31d12[04:46:00] <acidcock> I did a sudo chmod on /etc/postfix but it didn't help[04:51:31] *** JPT <JPT!~jpt@classified.name> has joined #postfix[04:52:12] *** ItsAVortex <ItsAVortex!~ItsAVorte@2600:380:6847:45dd:a48a:9342:dab3:b60c> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:52:30] *** ItsAVortex <ItsAVortex!~ItsAVorte@2600:380:6847:45dd:a48a:9342:dab3:b60c> has joined #postfix[04:53:27] <thumbs> acidcock: sounds like a selinux issue.[04:54:50] <acidcock> What should i look for to troubleshoot?[04:55:07] <thumbs> the selinux logs.[04:59:43] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has joined #postfix[04:59:59] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.static.allophone.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:21:34] *** ilovezfs_1 <ilovezfs_1!~ilovezfs_@111.65.132.240> has joined #postfix[05:21:35] *** ilovezfs_1 <ilovezfs_1!~ilovezfs_@111.65.132.240> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:38:06] <pj> it could be a php issue, or an selinux issue, yes.[05:38:23] <pj> most likely not a postfix issue.[05:39:32] <thumbs> definitely not a postfix issue.[05:39:59] <nate> Not looking like a PHP issue either from what was pasted above. But if selinux is involved yeah I would always blame it lol[05:48:05] *** ItsAVortex_ <ItsAVortex_!~ItsAVorte@2600:380:6847:45dd:a48a:9342:dab3:b60c> has joined #postfix[05:48:06] *** ItsAVortex <ItsAVortex!~ItsAVorte@2600:380:6847:45dd:a48a:9342:dab3:b60c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[05:49:12] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[05:50:14] <pj> acidcock: you can "setenforce 0" and try again, if it works then it is definately an selinux issue. You should not leave selinux that way though as it leaves your server unprotected, you should run "setenforce 1" as soon as you're done testing.[05:51:52] *** bla18 <bla18!~bla@2804:2144:ffb0:1f7:91de:32f6:73a3:d539> has joined #postfix[05:56:54] *** bla18 <bla18!~bla@2804:2144:ffb0:1f7:91de:32f6:73a3:d539> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:29:28] *** led_dark_1 <led_dark_1!~Thunderbi@217.66.160.14> has quit IRC (Quit: led_dark_1)[06:41:28] *** creadurex0 <creadurex0!~creadurex@110.189.29.121> has joined #postfix[06:41:28] *** creadurex0 <creadurex0!~creadurex@110.189.29.121> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:42:32] *** gruetzkopf0 <gruetzkopf0!~gruetzkop@2001:1670:8:8000:f04e:4f6a:e6d5:7a30> has joined #postfix[06:47:20] *** gruetzkopf0 <gruetzkopf0!~gruetzkop@2001:1670:8:8000:f04e:4f6a:e6d5:7a30> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[06:52:52] *** ItsAVortex_ <ItsAVortex_!~ItsAVorte@2600:380:6847:45dd:a48a:9342:dab3:b60c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 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<ThomasJ16!~ThomasJ@201.71.36.207> has joined #postfix[08:20:31] *** mondz <mondz!~mondz@121.179.117.93> has joined #postfix[08:20:33] *** mondz <mondz!~mondz@121.179.117.93> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:22:04] *** ThomasJ16 <ThomasJ16!~ThomasJ@201.71.36.207> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:23:11] *** CreazioN <CreazioN!~CreazioN@cpe.ge-3-2-2-100.arcnqe11.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #postfix[08:23:14] <CreazioN> Hi all[08:25:59] *** onslack16 <onslack16!~onslack@101.51.171.53> has joined #postfix[08:30:56] *** onslack16 <onslack16!~onslack@101.51.171.53> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[08:48:47] *** ngc0202 <ngc0202!~ngc0202@p5790582A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[08:49:19] *** ngc0202 <ngc0202!~ngc0202@p5790582A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:52:36] *** hovr27 <hovr27!~hovr@2001:1670:8:8000:2474:6085:3098:4ac4> has joined #postfix[08:53:05] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has joined #postfix[08:56:58] *** hovr27 <hovr27!~hovr@2001:1670:8:8000:2474:6085:3098:4ac4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[09:04:45] <tuxick> if you can't blame selinux it'll be systemd[09:05:21] * tuxick declares war on sudo[09:05:34] <tuxick> the command is called 'chmod'[09:11:17] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:11:59] *** n_1-c_k <n_1-c_k!~nick@2a02:8010:63a6::70> has joined #postfix[09:14:03] *** tenaglia <tenaglia!~jack@pb-d-128-141-210-30.cern.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[09:21:18] *** jelly <jelly!jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:31:45] *** Noti <Noti!~steffan@ip4da40774.direct-adsl.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:37:04] *** jelly-home <jelly-home!jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly> has joined #postfix[09:39:09] *** CreazioN 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kschlesselmann <kschlesselmann!~kschlesse@2a03:f680:fff2::a52> has joined #postfix[10:36:57] *** kschlesselmann <kschlesselmann!~kschlesse@2a03:f680:fff2::a52> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[10:42:20] *** ant_ <ant_!~ant_@i202-75-125-248.us.mics.ne.jp> has joined #postfix[10:42:25] *** ant_ <ant_!~ant_@i202-75-125-248.us.mics.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:46:34] *** ansabr28 <ansabr28!~ansabr@121.135.69.74> has joined #postfix[10:46:51] *** ansabr28 <ansabr28!~ansabr@121.135.69.74> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:55:05] *** breitenj <breitenj!~breitenj@bnc.plusnull.net> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[10:55:21] *** breitenj <breitenj!~breitenj@bnc.plusnull.net> has joined #postfix[11:10:43] *** mk-fg <mk-fg!~mk-fg@pdpc/supporter/active/mk-fg> has joined #postfix[11:18:29] *** mete <mete!~mete@91.247.253.160> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[11:22:18] <mk-fg> Hi, after update to postfix 3.4.0 on Arch, having "TLS is required, but our TLS engine is unavailable" in the logs with seemingly no additional information beyond "initializing the client-side TLS engine" before that, can someone suggest how to get more info on this?[11:22:38] <mk-fg> main.cf master.cf and complete log from postfix restart with postqueue -f -- https://gist.github.com/mk-fg/f9ac42ff34a5694ce24cd9a925b32721[11:23:44] <mk-fg> smtp_tls_loglevel seem to only allow logging procotol dumps (and smtp_tls_loglevel=2 is no help) and debug_peer_list doesn't show anything TLS-related, only stuff up until that error[11:25:14] <mk-fg> Setup is meant to require mandatory two-side client/server certificate checks, and worked up until this last update[11:43:25] <mk-fg> Strange that according to strace, tlsmgr seem to be idle when "TLS engine is unavailable", but not sure if it should be used[11:46:59] <mk-fg> Downgrading postfix 3.4.0 -> 3.3.2 instantly resolved the problem - no "initializing the client-side TLS engine" and no "TLS is required, but our TLS engine is unavailable"[11:47:58] <mk-fg> If anyone would randomly think of how to get more info out of this problem, please feel free to suggest, it's rather trivial to switch versions and try things out on this client machine[11:50:41] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[12:07:53] *** Agathon <Agathon!~Agathon@unaffiliated/agathon> has joined #postfix[12:08:28] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[12:13:20] *** jrko29 <jrko29!~jrko@2408:8214:501:8bf1:10bb:f4ef:297:2158> has joined #postfix[12:14:19] *** jorisv18 <jorisv18!~jorisv@1.245.86.133> has joined #postfix[12:14:43] *** jorisv18 <jorisv18!~jorisv@1.245.86.133> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:18:09] *** jrko29 <jrko29!~jrko@2408:8214:501:8bf1:10bb:f4ef:297:2158> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:22:25] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 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Im using Postfix at home for self hosted mail service. Its been working great for a while, Including spf, dkim and dmarc which I had all set properly. I could easily send mails to Gmail as well, with no issues. Then about a few days ago Im not sure why, I got into a blacklist (Spamrats). I submitted a request and they removed me, but since then - Google keeps throwing me to spam. Anyone has a clue what I can do at this point?[13:20:02] <n_1-c_k> mk-fg: if you get no help here, that sounds like something that would get attention on the postfix-users mailing list.[13:20:25] <buddy123> I know its not directly related to postfix. But Im sure someone here may be able to help[13:20:40] *** stenrose <stenrose!~martin@martin.ilait.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:20:41] <n_1-c_k> mk-fg: and thanks for pioneering, for those of us several versions behind :)[13:20:56] <mk-fg> Thanks, guess I'll re-post there[13:23:25] *** stenrose <stenrose!~martin@martin.ilait.se> has joined #postfix[13:24:07] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host9-94-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:37:44] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@milik.frozenstar.info> has joined #postfix[13:46:42] *** adherzog <adherzog!~adherzog@pl-791-099.hachigamenet.ne.jp> has joined #postfix[13:47:10] *** adherzog <adherzog!~adherzog@pl-791-099.hachigamenet.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:50:00] *** chrisaw1 <chrisaw1!~chrisaw@2804:2728:101:2c:c46a:6cba:cc51:969> has joined #postfix[13:54:03] *** chrisaw1 <chrisaw1!~chrisaw@2804:2728:101:2c:c46a:6cba:cc51:969> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:59:36] *** mete <mete!~mete@91.247.253.160> has joined #postfix[14:04:02] *** mete <mete!~mete@91.247.253.160> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[14:06:10] *** Pagan <Pagan!~Pagan@59.23.2.28> has joined #postfix[14:06:33] *** Pagan <Pagan!~Pagan@59.23.2.28> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:07:08] *** mete <mete!~mete@91.247.253.160> has joined #postfix[14:17:33] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:23:22] *** hexa- <hexa-!~hexa-@juno.lossy.network> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[14:29:55] <lunaphyte> buddy123: in the end, you'd have to just ask google[14:30:17] <lunaphyte> you're right thought, it's not a postfix question. you could try asking in ##email if you want[14:35:26] *** somepoortech <somepoortech!~somepoort@207.136.208.220> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[14:36:37] *** hexa- <hexa-!~hexa-@juno.lossy.network> has joined #postfix[14:48:40] *** somepoortech <somepoortech!~somepoort@72.12.70.165> has joined #postfix[15:02:58] <buddy123> Thanks lunaphyte. Just one last question about it - what do you mean ask them. is there some sort of endpoint or place to query about it?[15:03:22] <lunaphyte> endpoint?[15:15:31] <rob0> mk-fg, n_1-c_k: I recall seeing in the 3.4.0 release notes that older openssl versions are no longer supported.[15:17:10] <rob0> buddy123, AFAIK you'll never get an answer from el Goog. 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