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[02:50:06] <jimpop> blackflow: thx
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[07:54:18] <mamalos> I have a postfix server from whom I want various web-apps to send email notifications using different accounts from different mail providers using TLS and sasl authentication.
[07:54:50] <mamalos> I was thinking of using transport_maps to set which email should be sent through which mail server
[07:55:32] <mamalos> and smtp_sender_dependent_authentication with smtp_sasl_password_maps for conditional authentication
[07:56:28] <mamalos> is that enough?
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[09:24:49] <survietamine> isn't it possible to configure account informations on your "apps" that are sending mails?
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[10:24:13] <_ganapathi_> postqueue -p shows queue emais. but it's available for more than 2 days. how to control number days should be on queue and send delivery failure in-case unable to send
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[10:35:09] <blackflow> _ganapathi_: with maximal_queue_lifetime. Also take a look at {maximal,minimal}_backoff_time as well as queue_run_delay.
[10:44:19] <_ganapathi_> thanks
[10:44:34] <mamalos> survietamine: unfortunately one of them (glpi) doesn't work with office365. And because I'm sure I'll have the same problems with more apps as well, I decided to go this way.
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[10:55:54] <survietamine> IIRC, accounts info to send mails is configurable in glpi, long time I didn't setup glpi.
[10:56:58] <survietamine> that's said, I still don't really get what way. Your apps are just invoking sendmail?
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[11:07:29] <mamalos> survietamine: when I tried glpi's configuration it wouldn't work, and the guys at #glpi said they're usually using some relay which does the work. So this is why I'm doing it. Regardless the reason, though, I don't see anything wrong if somebody wants to centrally manage the way their app mails are sent.
[11:07:41] <mamalos> and hence my question
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[11:41:01] <survietamine> It's not centralized since from what I've read you are using different external accounts.
[11:41:31] <survietamine> so, maybe I'm wrong, but imho, it's more like a MUA
[12:00:46] <mamalos> survietamine: I don't disagree that it's more like a MUA, with the additional benefit that it: (a) queues, (b) if configured correctly, it'll always work (postfix is usually more robust then an app's mail handling software)
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[15:23:43] <Franciman> Hi
[15:24:28] <Franciman> I'm configuring postfix on my mail server. I am a big confused by these settings: myorigin, mydomain, myhostname
[15:25:02] <Franciman> as email domain I use mymail.ext
[15:25:16] <Franciman> and the mail server is mail.mymail.ext
[15:25:42] <Franciman> so myorigin = mymail.ext; mydomain = mymail.ext; myhostname = mail.mymail.ext ?
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[15:28:31] <rob0> all these are explained in
[15:28:35] <rob0> !basic
[15:28:35] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[15:28:40] <rob0> see also:
[15:28:43] <rob0> !fcrdns
[15:28:44] <knoba> rob0: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost
[15:29:10] <Franciman> perfect
[15:29:26] <Franciman> yes I'm following the basic configuration, but I couldn't figure this out :P
[15:29:48] <Franciman> for the forward confirmed reverse, it's ok now, and it sort of answers my question, so myhostname = mail.mymail.ext
[15:29:51] <Franciman> thanks
[15:29:56] <rob0> mydomain does not directly matter much
[15:30:03] <rob0> it's used in some defaults
[15:30:13] <rob0> !myorigin
[15:30:14] <knoba> rob0: "myorigin" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and that locally posted mail is delivered to. The default $myhostname, which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to user at that dot users.mailhost.
[15:30:28] <rob0> uh, sorry, ^^ that is garbage
[15:31:14] <Franciman> I see
[15:31:19] <rob0> !append_at_myorigin
[15:31:19] <knoba> rob0: "append_at_myorigin" : Append the string"@$myorigin" to mail addresses without domain information. WARNING: do not change this without understanding what it means, see http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#append_at_myorigin
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[15:31:52] <rob0> myorigin is appended to any addresses which lack a domain
[15:32:12] <Franciman> i see
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[15:32:42] <Franciman> ah rob0 I forgot mydestination
[15:32:58] <rob0> but there's no reason for you to ever use such addreses. But some cron daemons will send to <user>
[15:33:55] <Franciman> the default here has $myhostname
[15:33:58] <Franciman> but not $mydomain
[15:34:03] <rob0> <user> is actually <user@$myorigin>
[15:34:11] <Franciman> I see
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[15:39:54] <Franciman> rob0, does mydestination need to contain the hostname or the domain?
[15:40:09] <Franciman> I'm not sure I understand how it works
[15:40:45] <rob0> !mydestination
[15:40:45] <knoba> rob0: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents. See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mydestination for more information.
[15:41:22] <rob0> mydestination is the list of domains which you want to deliver to your own local (system) users.
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[15:42:43] <rob0> also note that user at one dot mydestination.domain is the same as user at any dot other.mydestination.domain, no namespace separation
[15:44:06] <Franciman> <rob0> mydestination is the list of domains which you want to deliver to your own local (system) users. <- the mails delivered to the local user also comprise the ones other people send to me?
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[15:46:35] * jaybe blinks
[15:47:38] <Franciman> i think I should read a bit about how the mail server works and all the nomenclature
[15:47:43] <Franciman> is there any resource for postfix?
[15:48:09] <thumbs> !tell Franciman basic
[15:48:09] <knoba> Franciman: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[15:48:14] <thumbs> !tell Franciman overview
[15:48:14] <knoba> Franciman: "overview" : Postfix Architecture Overview : http://www.postfix.org/OVERVIEW.html
[15:49:07] <Franciman> good, thanks
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[22:08:50] <CraPool> Hello.
[22:10:11] <CraPool> I try install postfix for anope can send mail. Whe I try the configuration, I have Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table
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[22:17:18] <thumbs> CraPool: it's silly to use a mail server to send emails - just use a nullclient instead.
[22:17:22] <thumbs> !tell CraPool nullclient
[22:17:22] <knoba> CraPool: "nullclient" : (#1) a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details., or (#2) See http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client
[22:20:56] <CraPool> thumbs: I try with sendmail, but i don't really understand. Many files to create
[22:22:59] <Zerberus> !nullclient_software
[22:22:59] <knoba> Zerberus: "nullclient_software" : a program that serves as a drop in replacement for /usr/sbin/sendmail and provides a simple means to submit messages to an existing msa without the need to install and maintain a full-blown mta/msa. examples include msmtp, esmtp, ssmtp and nullmailer. also see !msa
[22:37:18] <thumbs> CraPool: you don't need sendmail, either.
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