February 27, 2018 
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Anywhere.)[01:10:22] *** ephemer0l <ephemer0l!~ephemer0l@pentoo/user/ephemer0l> has joined #postfix[01:17:22] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[01:21:45] *** maslen2 <maslen2!uid202698@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrocigpkhkkujfer> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:21:51] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:26:02] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@82.61.72.109> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:32:02] <joules> which MUA?[01:32:11] <joules> oh nvm[01:48:49] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[01:50:27] *** chachasmooth_ <chachasmooth_!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:53:45] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:55:27] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined 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(Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:30:30] *** Zombie <Zombie!~masterz@h92.182.22.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[09:42:38] *** ss942 <ss942!~krystian@router.dir.pl> has joined #postfix[09:43:25] <ss942> hmm, when I use after queue filter message body is encrypted...[09:43:36] <ss942> I'm not able to read it in my script...[09:53:58] *** terp <terp!~terp@77.68.232.253> has joined #postfix[10:04:22] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:08:17] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[10:08:48] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:08:48] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[10:10:30] *** imm_ <imm_!~imm_@unaffiliated/imm/x-7821412> has joined #postfix[10:13:19] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.76.131> has joined #postfix[10:15:40] *** jww <jww!~jww@46.105.182.199> has joined #postfix[10:17:04] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.76.131> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:18:08] *** tuxmartin <tuxmartin!~martin@ip-62-245-75-182.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #postfix[10:18:11] <jww> Hello, I use postfix 3.1.6, and setuped a bcc for one email using recipient_bcc_maps .The problem is that emails are copied 2 times.I checked the aliases there is none for the target email.Does somebody have an idea about what's going on ?[10:19:50] <tuxmartin> Hi, I need to create report every 24 hours. In report I need username who send mails and number of mails. How can I do that? Is there any existing tool? Or is possible to use pflogsumm?[10:21:19] <jww> tuxmartin: I think you can use pflogsumm, some googling showed an example : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1311187/which-is-best-postfix-log-analyzer[10:24:44] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[10:26:17] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[10:26:42] <tuxmartin> jww: thank you, pflogsumm has in output "Senders by message count"[10:27:55] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has joined #postfix[10:28:15] <jww> yw.[10:28:33] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[10:28:33] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[10:29:13] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:37:53] <ss942> can I do something with my payload being encrypted?[10:38:20] <ss942> When I got mail from outside, I can't see payload in my script, or at least I can see only "random" characters[10:38:32] <ss942> (I'm taking it in after queue filter)[10:47:59] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[10:50:20] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@75.98.206.5> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:50:30] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@75.98.206.5> has joined #postfix[10:59:09] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has joined #postfix[11:25:25] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[11:26:58] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:c931:6f08:a971:bb3> has joined #postfix[11:29:29] *** Zombie <Zombie!~masterz@h26.205.22.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net> has joined #postfix[11:29:33] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:29:47] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:40:58] *** Poster|n <Poster|n!~poster@97.90.212.251> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:44:02] *** epony <epony!~nym@79-100-131-47.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #postfix[11:50:52] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host109-72-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[11:56:49] *** lukasdboer <lukasdboer!~lukasdboe@89.188.25.242> has joined #postfix[11:57:01] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@194-151-200-46.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[12:04:41] *** epony <epony!~nym@79-100-131-47.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:04:47] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[12:07:59] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[12:09:44] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[12:09:45] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[12:10:11] *** epony <epony!~nym@79-100-131-47.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #postfix[12:12:23] *** tuxmartin <tuxmartin!~martin@ip-62-245-75-182.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:15:39] *** gaab <gaab!~Gaaab@host109-72-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[12:20:33] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:26:11] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[12:26:23] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[12:26:40] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:c931:6f08:a971:bb3> has quit IRC ()[12:28:23] *** hannes77 <hannes77!~Adium@p5DDC0641.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[12:30:59] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:33:57] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:39:10] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[12:53:02] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[12:57:57] *** section1 <section1!~section1@152.168.153.94> has joined #postfix[13:03:38] *** edux__ <edux__!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[13:06:05] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:08:27] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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The receiving domain in question seems to have a perfectly fine MX but postfix is trying and failing to connection both the v4 and v6 'A' record for the domain.[15:24:29] <sloof> https://pastebin.com/WG0bQ8DB[15:24:42] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[15:25:46] <lunaphyte> sloof: pastebin your config as well, as per !getting_help[15:25:49] *** somepoortech <somepoortech!~somepoort@72-0-128-26.static.firstlight.net> has joined #postfix[15:28:36] *** imfearless[guest <imfearless[guest!~imfearles@corporate.datayard.us> has joined #postfix[15:30:32] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[15:30:35] *** imfearless <imfearless!~imfearles@corporate.datayard.us> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:35:38] <sloof> !getting_help[15:35:38] <knoba> sloof: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[15:35:51] <sloof> !showconfig[15:35:51] <knoba> sloof: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[15:37:54] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:38:20] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:40:10] <sloof> https://pastebin.com/StKrySxW[15:52:47] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[15:55:46] <lunaphyte> i don't see an mx for that destination[15:57:34] *** ss942 <ss942!~krystian@router.dir.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:59:09] *** somepoortech <somepoortech!~somepoort@72-0-128-26.static.firstlight.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:02:01] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[16:08:48] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has joined #postfix[16:17:31] *** jas02_ <jas02_!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has joined #postfix[16:17:41] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:18:54] *** jas02_ <jas02_!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:18:56] *** BillD73 <BillD73!~billd73@dsl227-38-101.otecom.net> has left #postfix[16:19:27] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has joined #postfix[16:24:47] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:27:46] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@74.85.159.242> has joined #postfix[16:33:04] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@195.138.249.6> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:37:35] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has joined #postfix[16:37:55] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I'm trying to restrict from a specific host to a list of approved addresses while allowing other hosts to send anywhere.[18:10:20] <FortunateSon> I feel like this should be possible, but I'm hitting a block and I'm still learning postfix so my ability to completely understand the docs is ... still growing[18:11:46] <FortunateSon> I'm using check_client_access and check_recipient_access in my smpt_relay_restrictions directive but I think I'm not doing it correctly[18:12:48] <FortunateSon> anyone have any sample config / wisdom they would like to share[18:13:25] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@107.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[18:13:29] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:13:49] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[18:21:15] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@75.188.11.166> has joined #postfix[18:23:45] *** D4R5C0D3 <D4R5C0D3!~DARSCODE@2001:1c06:302:f600:4cbf:4891:bc3f:bd7f> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 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"reject" at the end.[18:54:31] <rob0> Probably a saner way to do this is with check_sasl_access rather than check_client_access, but still have a restriction class with the check_recipient_access and reject.[19:01:35] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:10:26] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[19:15:54] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has joined #postfix[19:20:24] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:20:57] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has joined #postfix[19:21:02] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[19:47:09] *** danjel <danjel!~danjel@85.83.142.134> has joined #postfix[19:47:44] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:48:15] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has joined #postfix[19:51:17] *** junixbr 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closed the connection)[20:09:16] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has joined #postfix[20:10:26] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:11:59] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:12:35] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has joined #postfix[20:17:53] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:18:29] *** danjel <danjel!~danjel@85.83.142.134> has joined #postfix[20:19:43] <et09> not receiving any emails, though SMTP is fine - any help? https://gist.github.com/djvs/5e2e1265df848dd9457ebfaf5f9b6bdc[20:20:05] <et09> guessing either my DNS or the SSL settings which changed recently[20:20:59] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:21:13] <rob0> !tell et09 getting_help[20:21:13] <knoba> et09: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[20:21:21] <rob0> !showconfig[20:21:21] <knoba> rob0: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[20:21:28] <rob0> !relevant_logs[20:21:28] <knoba> rob0: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[20:21:56] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has joined #postfix[20:22:10] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@193.165.24.163> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:22:52] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has joined #postfix[20:23:46] <et09> OK, updated: https://gist.github.com/djvs/5e2e1265df848dd9457ebfaf5f9b6bdc[20:23:57] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[20:32:21] <rob0> what in particular is the problem? This is all I see, Feb 27 19:10:47 localhost postfix/smtp[25447]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2607:f8b0:400d:c02::1a]:25: Network is unreachable[20:32:45] <rob0> and that probably simply means you have enabled IPv6 before your ISP did.[20:32:46] <et09> i tried sending emails from multiple domains to my email on there, and none of them made it through. only ones i sent from the same domain worked.[20:32:58] <rob0> !nologs[20:32:58] <knoba> rob0: "nologs" : Nothing in your mail logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question. also see !logs.[20:33:11] <rob0> so yeah, maybe DNS[20:33:43] <et09> i'm not great at the DNS either - do you see anything? i have an MX and an A on the mail. subdomain[20:34:31] <et09> ports 143 and 587 both open remotely on the root domain[20:34:47] <rob0> mail.djvs.co. 300 IN A 162.243.78.80[20:35:12] <rob0> $ telnet 162.243.78.80 25[20:35:12] <rob0> Trying 162.243.78.80...[20:35:12] <rob0> telnet: connect to address 162.243.78.80: Connection refused[20:35:47] <et09> it's on port 587[20:35:54] <rob0> port 25 is NOT open. All mail exchange is exclusively to port 25. Always.[20:35:54] <et09> should it have both open?[20:35:59] <et09> ah.[20:36:10] <et09> so it's the master.cf port setting i bet[20:36:15] <rob0> If you are a mail exchanger, yes you MUST have 25 open.[20:36:35] <et09> 587 inet n - y - - smtpd[20:36:44] <et09> should there be also smtpd inet n [..etc...][20:36:54] <et09> er, smtp[20:37:07] <rob0> yes, that is wrong[20:37:14] <rob0> !submission[20:37:14] <knoba> rob0: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf[20:37:31] <et09> there, now it works.[20:37:34] <et09> thanks[20:37:39] <rob0> Submission should require TLS and AUTH and reject anything else.[20:38:00] <rob0> Smtp should not offer nor accept AUTH.[20:38:30] <et09> in master.cf?[20:41:00] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:48:52] <et09> i see - submission inet n - n - - smtpd[20:52:12] <rob0> and the commented -o lines which follow!![20:54:38] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:55:06] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has joined #postfix[20:56:05] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10::719e:e3e1> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye.)[20:58:05] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:58:18] *** bqffen <bqffen!535ecd6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.94.205.110> has joined #postfix[20:58:40] *** bqffen <bqffen!535ecd6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.94.205.110> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:58:55] *** jas02 <jas02!~jas02@131.207.242.5> has joined #postfix[21:02:49] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:03:53] <et09> and the smtps as well?[21:04:58] <et09> ah - deprecated i see - nevermind[21:05:13] <et09> (i think)[21:05:52] <rob0> well, recently,[21:05:58] <rob0> !submissions[21:05:58] <knoba> rob0: "submissions" : RFC 8314 renames the old smtps port, 465/tcp, to submissions, with implicit TLS rather than explicit STARTTLS via a plaintext TCP connection. Postfix can implement submissions with a separate smtpd(8) listener with \" -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes\". See the commented example in master.cf.[21:07:17] <rob0> You can do submission either way, wrappermode or STARTTLS.[21:07:30] <et09> got it[21:07:53] <rob0> Some thing the initial plaintext connection is good, some do not.[21:09:10] <rob0> From a mail server operator's perspective, I think the initial plaintext connection doesn't hurt, helps to weed out bad clients and poorly-coded attack bots.[21:11:38] <rob0> s/thing/think/ oops[21:18:36] *** section1 <section1!~section1@152.168.153.94> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:39:54] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[21:41:18] *** junixbr <junixbr!~junixbr@200.187.75.2> has quit IRC (Quit: junixbr)[22:08:02] <peb`> hey, I have an email service with a domain example.com with two kinds of users: local ones, and aliases' ones, the latter having asked me to receive their emails to them to their own mailbox, and so my server just bounce the mails sent to them to their addresses. The thing is that I'd like to avoid non-authorized emails to be forwarded to them. So I'm considering having a kind of whitelist of senders whose[22:08:05] <peb`> emails are allowed to be forwarded to them, and otherwise, the emails are dropped by my server. This would not impact local delivery to local users[22:08:12] <peb`> what's the best way to achieve such a purpose?[22:09:48] <rob0> well, I don't know what "non-authorized emails" means, but it sounds like you're running afoul of some of our mantras:[22:09:51] <rob0> !mantras[22:09:51] <knoba> rob0: "mantras" : 1. do not accept mail that you do not intend to deliver. 2. do not drop mail. 3. do not use wildcards or catchalls. 4. do not forward mail to outside/third party systems[22:12:16] <peb`> Hm, I was meaning rejected instead of dropped. I guess you also consider that my current situation is against 4?[22:14:05] *** Poster|n <Poster|n!~poster@97.90.212.251> has joined #postfix[22:15:55] <rob0> do you (or these users) control those servers to which you plan to forward mail/spam?[22:18:00] *** imfearless <imfearless!~imfearles@corporate.datayard.us> has joined #postfix[22:18:31] <peb`> Not necessarily, sometimes it's their own service, sometimes they want me to have their emails to user at example dot com forwarded to their own gmail.com address[22:18:32] <imfearless> How can i make postfix only accept mail for domains it knows about[22:18:36] <imfearless> I have a list of domains in mysql[22:18:40] <imfearless> that i "own"[22:18:59] <imfearless> i essentially dont want to accept messages for addresses i dont have direct routes to[22:19:18] <imfearless> i'm assuming recipient restrictions?[22:23:08] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:74d1:32cf:68ff:a8a2> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:23:48] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:391a:959e:3495:b79f> has joined #postfix[22:25:20] <peb`> rob0: in such cases I add a line in the aliases file of my server: "user: [the forward address provided by my user]"[22:33:12] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@74.85.159.242> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:36:37] <Zerberus> imfearless: read the VIRTUAL_README[22:40:41] <imfearless> Zerberus Thank you!! That worked[22:49:57] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC ()[22:59:04] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:59:25] *** BitBandit <BitBandit!~BitBandit@50-198-187-221-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:01:13] <et09> if an MX record for a domain points somewhere that doesn't exist, and the domain also has services running on 25/587/etc., does the average mail server just use the latter?[23:02:02] <et09> client of a client has a weird configuration i'm trying to work with[23:04:37] *** imfearless <imfearless!~imfearles@corporate.datayard.us> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:07:38] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[23:13:35] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:15:14] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[23:19:49] <teward> et09: i'm not sure we can answer without more details. From Postfix's perspective, I've seen it have a failed MX attempt, and then it tries the @domain.tld from the "to" email in the envelope, but I can't say that's a 'normal' process, especially if, say, the 'domain' running services on 25, 587, etc. is not the same server as domain.tld (from the foo at domain dot tld destination address)[23:20:21] <teward> this is, however, only my observations from when I was doing a test 'lab' environment to see what would happen if records were missing, etc. but I can't say that that is necessarily the 'gold standard' of behavior[23:20:37] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:20:39] <teward> and without more details of the specific case you are asking about i can't give you a clear answer[23:25:45] <rob0> peb`, the point of the mantra is that when your user gets spam and it's forwarded, the receiving server might consider YOU the spam source.[23:26:51] <rob0> et09, first thing, 587 is NEVER used in mail exchange. Mail exchange is ALWAYS and ONLY to port 25.[23:27:15] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[23:27:51] <rob0> Second thing, no, if the MX host does not exist or does not answer, no proper MTA would go to the A/AAAA.[23:45:52] <peb`> rob0: I get your point. Yet, If my user has a local account and puts a forward file in his home it'll cause the same issue, won't it ?Thus, assuming that I can't change the way things are done immediately, I still need to avoid the spam forwarding. How should I proceed ?[23:50:45] <rob0> The technical issues are not easy to solve. It might be better handled as a political issue. :)[23:51:37] <rob0> Technically, you can fix it by delivering locally, and having your users set up POP3 (yuck) retrievers from gmail.[23:52:14] <rob0> (but that's not purely technical, of course, you have to get the users' cooperation.)[23:55:11] *** GeneralDiscourse <GeneralDiscourse!~ephemer0l@pentoo/user/ephemer0l> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)