February 24, 2018 
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February 24, 2018 [00:04:34] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:05:04] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[00:12:19] *** treefrob_ <treefrob_!~treefrob@p57A96059.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[00:17:35] *** Qommand0r <Qommand0r!~HENKiE@unaffiliated/schaap137> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)[00:19:09] *** SCHAPiE <SCHAPiE!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:24:04] *** SCHAPiE <SCHAPiE!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has joined #postfix[00:24:45] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:32:15] *** ih8wndz <ih8wndz!~jwpierce3@li690-89.members.linode.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:38:44] *** ih8wndz <ih8wndz!~jwpierce3@server.trunkmasters.com> has joined #postfix[00:40:37] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[00:57:32] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[01:13:35] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p57A96059.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[01:52:05] *** ephemer0l is now known as GeneralDiscourse[02:00:27] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:00:52] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has joined #postfix[02:09:59] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.245.19> has joined #postfix[02:15:27] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.245.19> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[02:30:29] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:30:29] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:31:09] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.245.19> has joined #postfix[02:33:19] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[02:33:19] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[02:33:19] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[02:33:25] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.245.19> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:33:48] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[02:33:49] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[02:33:49] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[03:23:04] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.245.19> has joined #postfix[03:26:58] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.245.19> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:53:19] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host109-72-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:54:55] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.191.27> has joined #postfix[03:56:39] *** r3pek_ is now known as r3pek[04:03:18] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.191.27> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[04:12:04] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[04:13:01] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:13:49] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[04:13:50] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[04:13:50] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[04:14:51] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[04:14:52] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[04:14:52] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[04:18:23] *** toothe <toothe!~toothe@unaffiliated/toothe> has joined #postfix[04:18:43] <toothe> Hi all! I keep getting this "Temporary lookup failure" when I try the RCPT line.[04:18:50] <toothe> I am trying to do the most minimalistic email setup.[04:21:41] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:2d5c:c0dc:4060:3d74> has joined #postfix[04:23:58] *** chachasmooth_ <chachasmooth_!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:24:10] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:34:26] *** kenneth <kenneth!~kenneth@112.199.79.125> has joined #postfix[04:37:48] <patdk-lap> toothe, ya, that doesn't tell us anything at all[04:37:58] <patdk-lap> !tell toothe getting_help[04:37:59] <knoba> toothe: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[04:39:14] <toothe> you're right, I'm sorry - got distracted[05:12:20] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:13:44] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[05:24:27] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[05:36:33] *** atmx <atmx!~atmx@185.40.20.96> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[05:42:40] *** atmx <atmx!~atmx@185.40.20.96> has joined #postfix[05:59:07] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-104-34-204-52.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[05:59:15] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:2d5c:c0dc:4060:3d74> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:01:09] *** Darcidride__ <Darcidride__!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93> has joined #postfix[06:01:45] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[06:02:11] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:04:35] *** clarjon1 <clarjon1!~clarjon1@unaffiliated/clarjon1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:18:57] *** atmx <atmx!~atmx@185.40.20.96> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[06:21:35] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-104-34-204-52.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[06:23:11] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[06:29:39] *** M6HZ <M6HZ!~M6HZ@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:21:28] *** epony <epony!~nym@79-100-131-47.ip.btc-net.bg> has quit IRC (Quit: QUIT)[07:27:59] *** epony <epony!~nym@79-100-131-47.ip.btc-net.bg> has joined #postfix[08:03:22] *** vpelletier <vpelletier!~vincent@p14023-ipngn4201hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp> has joined #postfix[08:04:16] <vpelletier> Hi. I have problem understanding sender_dependent_default_transport_maps: I understand "sender_" as depending on the "MAIL FROM:" value, but http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html in TABLE SEARCH ORDER[08:04:55] <vpelletier> says it is "mail *for* <pattern> through transport to nexthop"[08:05:11] <vpelletier> which would mean is then depends on "RCPT TO"...[08:05:29] <vpelletier> what am I misunderstanding ?[08:06:41] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:07:32] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.191.222> has joined #postfix[08:19:00] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.191.222> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[08:21:07] *** atmx <atmx!~atmx@185.40.20.96> has joined #postfix[08:23:15] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[08:27:32] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has joined #postfix[08:31:03] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:2d5c:c0dc:4060:3d74> has joined #postfix[08:38:55] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[08:40:14] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:40:26] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[08:40:59] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:41:14] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[08:41:47] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:46:22] <vpelletier> well, I finally found the right combination which cancelled my 2 mistakes: sender_dependent_default_transport_maps cannot be overridden per-transport (IOW, "smtpd -o" in master.cf), key lookup is "@domain" (postconf.5 is correct) and not "domain" (transport.5 is not correct or maybe not relevant for some reason)[08:47:02] <vpelletier> still kind of puzzled by why transport.5 contains these syntax & wording, as 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<jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:50:06] *** jimpop <jimpop!~jimpop@pdpc/supporter/professional/jimpop> has joined #postfix[16:50:54] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:54:33] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@46.173.197.56> has joined #postfix[16:55:51] *** et09 <et09!~et09@unaffiliated/endolphin> has joined #postfix[16:56:32] <et09> so...can't send mail from thunderbird on my postfix server... port 25 is 'filtered', other 3 smtp ports listed as closed from remote nmap...thunderbird just stalls...however imap works fine[16:56:48] <et09> postfix config is scary so i don't know where to start[16:57:03] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[17:00:05] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:00:47] <et09> it worked a month ago by the way. so it's not far, whatever the issue is[17:01:33] *** edux 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See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf[17:33:17] *** M6HZ <M6HZ!~M6HZ@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #postfix[17:33:49] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:33:53] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:36:38] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[17:36:39] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has joined #postfix[17:36:40] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:36:40] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[17:37:10] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[17:37:11] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:37:11] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[17:52:49] <et09> oh! it stopped working after i moved. hah[17:52:59] <et09> new ISP[17:56:13] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:57:21] <lunaphyte> yup, you're breaking the rules. port 25 is for servers to talk to other servers. clients are not to use port 25[17:57:58] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[18:02:17] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:05:04] <et09> awesome, all fixed[18:06:03] <et09> and i got a valid ssl cert while i was in there[18:08:47] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has joined #postfix[18:17:24] <et09> i should ask - is there an actual valid reason to have a mail.foobar.com instead of just foobar.com ?[18:20:17] <JPT> It's easier to separate services in case you have a webserver behind foobar.com[18:20:32] <et09> how do you mean?[18:21:03] <JPT> You could host a website for foobar.com on one machine while mail.foobar.com points to a second machine taking care of mail for foobar.com[18:21:50] <et09> oh, right[18:22:03] <JPT> Other than that, there is not that much to it (afaik)[18:22:08] <et09> you could just route it via ports though right[18:22:29] <JPT> That would be rather ugly[18:22:34] <JPT> But technically, sure.[18:22:43] <et09> well, if they were behind the same router or something[18:22:59] <JPT> It really depends on your environment and requirements.[18:23:18] <JPT> It doesn't hurt to give your mailserver some name and just use it for the domains you want to process mail for.[18:24:09] <JPT> If you're curious, use dig to look up MX records of domains of big companies and see how they name things.[18:24:30] <et09> also, i have a client who have an insanely botched mail config, multiple sites hosted on one machine and none of them have a properly configured mail server, postfix isn't even installed, etc. - i advised them to just use third party mail and pay the small fee - is that bad advice?[18:24:38] <et09> otherwise it'd just go on that server[18:25:32] <et09> there's no requirement for local sendmail, or AFAIK even for imap (although i'm sure their clients would appreciate it)[18:25:48] <et09> from what i can tell it's just used for contact forms etc.[18:27:48] <JPT> If they don't have resources and know-how to set mail up properly, it's probably best to give mail to a company that will do it properly.[18:28:08] <lunaphyte> et09: have a mail.foobar.com instead of just foobar.com where, exactly?[18:28:39] <lunaphyte> also, please don't use other people's domain names when you're trying to hide yours. that's not nice[18:28:56] <et09> yeah, that's what i said. they hired me to debug their "none of our sites' email is working anymore" problem - i dug into all the sites and found the smtp config, tested all the servers, all should have been hosted locally but 100% broken[18:29:03] <et09> lunaphyte: i'm not[18:29:16] <lunaphyte> et09: you own foobar.com?[18:29:19] <et09> so i basically told them, it's going to be cheaper to just use a third party than hire someone to keep come in and fixing these[18:29:30] <et09> no, "foobar" is the canonical "example programming string"[18:29:38] <et09> aka "whatever.com"[18:29:44] <lunaphyte> et09: foobar.com is not your domain name[18:29:52] <lunaphyte> you are using someone else's domain name, while trying to hide yours[18:29:55] <JPT> In here, we prefer example.com for that. There's even an RFC for that. :)[18:30:02] <et09> ok, example.com then[18:34:00] <rob0> This discussion really belongs more in ##email than here, but I'll answer here.[18:35:43] <rob0> It recently came up on the Slackbuilds.org mailing list. Our submission web form attempts to verify their email address, and the FQDN of the web server is "slackbuilds.org."[18:35:51] *** danjel <danjel!~danjel@192.38.130.32> has joined #postfix[18:36:02] <rob0> (That's the PTR value as well.)[18:36:56] <rob0> Apparently some inexperienced and overeager mail admins treat a two-label FQDN as a spam sign.[18:38:11] <lunaphyte> the thing is, we don't know what et09 is actually asking[18:38:23] <lunaphyte> are we talking about hostnames, or are we talking about email addresses?[18:38:34] <rob0> That's silly, of course, when the name has FCrDNS, is whitelisted at DNSWL, and has good reputation (no negative reputation) as ours does, but that's what they do.[18:38:40] <lunaphyte> the answers are very different for each[18:38:50] <et09> regarding the mail.example.com thing? whether or not it's really necessary to have a separate mail.example.com for imap/smtp[18:38:59] <lunaphyte> ok, so hostnames[18:39:09] <et09> not in the email[18:39:20] <rob0> imap is an unrelated matter[18:39:26] <lunaphyte> i would definitely use specific hostnames for services, yes. no question.[18:39:43] <lunaphyte> in fact, i would use separate hostnames for imap and for submission to[18:39:54] <lunaphyte> unique hostname per service[18:40:09] <et09> i was just wondering because i was filling out my ssl cert[18:40:33] <et09> it's via certbot so it's free, just simpler i suppose[18:45:40] *** danjel <danjel!~danjel@192.38.130.32> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:58:45] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[19:02:53] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:25:27] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~DzAirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Quit: We here br0.... xD)[19:25:42] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[19:28:32] *** wwl <wwl!~wwl@ipbcc2327c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[19:31:29] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~DzAirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[19:36:13] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host109-72-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:39:45] *** lwlvl <lwlvl!~lwlvl@x4dbb5c2f.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #postfix[19:40:27] <lwlvl> I get an error when I try to use the sendEmail-tool from commandline. "warning: TLS library problem: error:14076102:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unsupported protocol:s23_srvr.c:597:"[19:41:26] <lwlvl> !welcome[19:41:26] <knoba> lwlvl: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![19:54:41] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[19:59:31] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[20:02:00] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:cb14:7ff:9f00:59a0:47d:9aef:afa4> has joined #postfix[20:02:15] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:cb14:7ff:9f00:59a0:47d:9aef:afa4> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:03:47] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:04:33] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.187.91> has joined #postfix[20:26:10] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.187.91> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:48:32] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:49:32] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:58:03] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:58:03] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:58:26] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[20:58:27] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:58:27] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[20:59:05] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[20:59:06] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:59:07] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[21:00:14] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[21:01:57] <rob0> lwlvl, I am not familiar with sendEmail (it is NOT a part of Postfix, sounds like a nullclient?), but I think that error means either connecting plaintext to a wrappermode port, or wrappermode to a plaintext/STARTTLS port.[21:05:01] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:13:56] <tuxick> sendemail is a very handy tool[21:14:17] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[21:14:17] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[21:14:41] <tuxick> and openssl is a crime against humanity :)[21:17:38] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[21:17:39] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:17:39] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[21:18:13] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[21:18:14] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:18:14] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[21:23:48] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:29:23] *** M6HZ <M6HZ!~M6HZ@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:30:47] *** M6HZ <M6HZ!~M6HZ@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #postfix[21:34:21] <lwlvl> rob0, do you have any idea how to setup the sendmail-tool to use the smtp of postfix (another server)? I just want to send emails (from scripts and so on). I know that everyone is getting scared when somebody says sendmail...but I don't want to install any fancy additional programs just to make my server send some mails. it can't be that hard to simply do that with sendmail?[21:35:19] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:35:55] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[21:36:20] <lunaphyte> what is "the sendmail-tool"? that's not something that's part of postfix[21:36:29] <lunaphyte> have you consulted its documentation?[21:38:37] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[21:38:44] <lwlvl> lunaphyte, several times :)[21:39:32] <tuxick> http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/#tls that?[21:39:43] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@107.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:39:50] <tuxick> and it's not related to sendmail :)[21:40:14] <lwlvl> tuxick, will have a look on that...second...[21:40:44] <lwlvl> tuxick, I had some issues with tls and sendEmail...that's why I dropped the solution[21:41:07] <tuxick> hmm that's about submission[21:41:17] <rob0> You'll have to understand the problems better, to be able to solve them.[21:41:20] <lwlvl> tuxick, thunderbird for example doesn't have an issue with my postfix-server[21:41:25] <lwlvl> but sendEmail has....[21:41:56] <tuxick> on same host?[21:41:59] <rob0> We don't really know what your use case is[21:42:05] <lwlvl> tuxick, different[21:42:15] <lwlvl> I'll try to explain....[21:42:26] <lwlvl> okay...let me explain the scenario[21:42:33] <tuxick> maybe they box with sendemail has old openssl?[21:43:14] <lwlvl> on my local host (actually a server) I tried to send status-mails using my freshly installed postfix...which works almost as it should.[21:43:33] <lwlvl> and I want to use the remote postfix-server to do that.[21:44:52] <lwlvl> tuxick, good point, I'll check that. normally this machine is up-to-date....on a stable version...[21:46:22] *** CouchCommandos <CouchCommandos!~lukacvetk@93-103-53-75.dynamic.t-2.net> has joined #postfix[21:46:36] <lwlvl> tuxick, no...both OpenSSL 1.0.2n[21:46:57] <rob0> "send status-mails" how?[21:47:16] <rob0> sounds like you need a null client[21:47:24] <lwlvl> rob0, let's say a script wants to chat :)[21:47:25] <rob0> !nullclient_software[21:47:25] <knoba> rob0: "nullclient_software" : a program that serves as a drop in replacement for /usr/sbin/sendmail and provides a simple means to submit messages to an existing msa without the need to install and maintain a full-blown mta/msa. examples include msmtp, esmtp, ssmtp and nullmailer. also see !msa[21:48:00] <lwlvl> rob0, okay...what stands against sendmail?[21:48:09] <rob0> You simply configure the null client the same way you'd configure Thunderbird to send.[21:48:51] <rob0> A null client is the sending part of a MUA.[21:49:39] <lwlvl> rob0, okay...will try that....thank you all for your support :)[22:04:48] *** et09 <et09!~et09@unaffiliated/endolphin> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:05:16] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:05:57] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[22:10:27] *** Dashers_ <Dashers_!~Dash@arthur.lan.ox.rs> has joined #postfix[22:10:55] <CouchCommandos> Hello, everyone! On a virtualized system with multiple NICs/IPs assigned, I want outbound mail to be send via a specific IP, but Postfix should listen on all interfaces for connections. inet_interfaces is set to all in main.cf and the smtp service is set with -o smtp_bind_address in master.cf. When I test send a message, another IP is used for the connection to the foreign host and it is also present in the headers. Did I miss[22:10:55] <CouchCommandos> something?[22:11:17] *** Dashers_ <Dashers_!~Dash@arthur.lan.ox.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:11:27] *** Dashers <Dashers!~Dash@arthur.lan.ox.rs> has joined #postfix[22:11:38] <rob0> what is this to accomplish?[22:13:24] <CouchCommandos> To designate a mail-only IP for the outside world and allow submission from localhost and other networks at the same time.[22:13:36] <Dashers> Hi, is there a way of excluding a single domain from a relay_domain lookup hash?[22:13:41] <rob0> The system route tables might be the problem, but it's impossible to say.[22:14:02] <Dashers> subdomain **[22:14:28] <Dashers> i.e. I want all mail for example.com to be relayed, but not foo.example.com[22:15:08] <rob0> and what of foo.example.com, where should that go?[22:15:13] <Dashers> reject[22:15:35] <rob0> that's easy then, a check_recipient_access lookup[22:15:52] <rob0> "foo.example.com reject"[22:16:50] <Dashers> seems simple enough! Do I need to whitelist in there too?[22:17:02] <Dashers> or just add the one I don't want[22:17:45] <rob0> just the one to reject[22:17:48] <rob0> !access[22:17:48] <knoba> rob0: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[22:17:51] <Dashers> awesome, thanks[22:18:01] <rob0> !check_recipient_access[22:18:01] <knoba> rob0: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[22:18:21] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:20:43] <CouchCommandos> rob0, the "system routing table" advice was, i suppose, was directed towards the bind_address question. Might be, those are sub-interfaces, but can't really see anythign special with their routing tbles.[22:21:13] <rob0> what's a sub-interface?[22:21:21] <rob0> vlan?[22:21:46] <rob0> what os/distro?[22:22:11] <CouchCommandos> vlan, yes. ubuntu xenial[22:24:10] <rob0> okay, if you want help with it, make a complete pastebin as per /topic, also include "ip r ; ip a" output therein.[22:24:15] <rob0> !relevant_logs[22:24:15] <knoba> rob0: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[22:24:20] <rob0> !showconfig[22:24:20] <knoba> rob0: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[22:24:32] <rob0> ^^ all of this in a single pastebin please[22:25:30] <Dashers> check_recipient_access doesn't seem to work for me at the subdomain level. If I specify an explicit user, then it rejects, but using just "foo.example.com" or " at foo dot example.com" doesn't block it. Any ideas?[22:26:00] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@46.173.197.56> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[22:27:26] <rob0> My idea is that you did it wrong.[22:29:48] <Dashers> I did think that, but I put in an explicit full address and that got rejected successfully, which suggests the file is being read correctly and working. Just not matching the subdoain for some reason.[22:31:19] <Dashers> Strange, works, now, must have been a typo[22:31:28] <rob0> :)[22:33:01] * rob0 has work to do, will be in and out (mostly out, likely)[22:37:23] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[22:42:49] *** jelly <jelly!jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly> has quit IRC (Quit: "")[22:42:57] <CouchCommandos> https://pastebin.com/dPUk7f4E[22:55:02] *** frdmn <frdmn!~frdmn@unaffiliated/frdmn> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:58:00] *** frdmn <frdmn!~frdmn@r2-d2.yeahwh.at> has joined #postfix[22:58:01] *** frdmn <frdmn!~frdmn@r2-d2.yeahwh.at> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:58:01] *** frdmn <frdmn!~frdmn@unaffiliated/frdmn> has joined #postfix[23:01:46] <CouchCommandos> The pastebin link above exipred, so configs and example mail as per /topic are now at https://gist.github.com/lukacvetko/a532bcb82c526bcc80a40d7a3cc1fbac. I am trying to see why Postfix SMTP is not sending outbound mail trough the defined smtp_bind_address.[23:04:25] *** jelly <jelly!jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly> has joined #postfix[23:05:55] *** internat <internat!biteme2@182.103.220.203.dial.dynamic.acc03-tull-pth.comindico.com.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:06:31] *** internat <internat!biteme2@182.103.220.203.dial.dynamic.acc03-tull-pth.comindico.com.au> has joined #postfix[23:10:59] *** internat <internat!biteme2@182.103.220.203.dial.dynamic.acc03-tull-pth.comindico.com.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:11:28] *** internat <internat!biteme2@182.103.220.203.dial.dynamic.acc03-tull-pth.comindico.com.au> has joined #postfix[23:12:48] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-244-75.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Quit: rsx)[23:22:22] *** wwl <wwl!~wwl@ipbcc2327c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[23:32:48] *** PaulePanter <PaulePanter!~paul@mail.gw90.de> has joined #postfix[23:37:49] <rob0> CouchCommandos, 404![23:38:43] <rob0> why are you using such short timeouts?[23:54:17] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:55:29] *** ponky <ponky!ponky@pon.ky> has joined #postfix[23:55:41] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[23:55:47] <ponky> hey, i have bunch of mail stuck in queue with 'user lookup error', however, i can run postalias -q with that recipients address without errors[23:55:56] <ponky> any ideas?