February 22, 2018 
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#postfix[05:22:13] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[05:22:53] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has joined #postfix[05:23:35] *** ghormoon <ghormoon!~ghormoon@ghorland.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:27:31] *** ghormoon <ghormoon!~ghormoon@ghorland.net> has joined #postfix[05:53:56] *** farseerfc <farseerfc!~farseerfc@archlinux/tu/farseerfc> has joined #postfix[05:54:49] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.187.91> has joined #postfix[05:56:39] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@194-151-200-46.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[06:01:03] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has joined #postfix[06:05:18] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93> has joined #postfix[06:05:44] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:05:50] *** Darcidride__ <Darcidride__!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93> has joined #postfix[06:06:48] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:07:57] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:09:19] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has joined #postfix[06:18:23] *** pinPoint <pinPoint!~pinPoint@about/windows/regular/pinpoint> has quit IRC (Quit: Incoming fire has the right of way.)[06:21:09] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:22:02] *** pinPoint <pinPoint!~pinPoint@about/windows/regular/pinpoint> has joined #postfix[06:22:48] *** clarjon1 <clarjon1!~clarjon1@unaffiliated/clarjon1> has joined #postfix[06:22:54] <clarjon1> Heyo![06:23:22] <clarjon1> !getting_help[06:23:23] <knoba> clarjon1: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[06:25:52] *** pti-jean__ <pti-jean__!~quassel@107.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[06:25:57] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@107.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:28:27] <clarjon1> So, I have a postfix setup that's configured to allow people to send mail if they auth to smtp. I want to add specific static IPs that are allowed to relay. Is that possible to do? I'm seeing hints about `mynetworks' == if i add the individual ips in the style of 10.10.1.42/32, would that allow that server to relay w/o auth?[06:30:12] *** pti-jean__ <pti-jean__!~quassel@107.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:30:12] <lunaphyte> that's not really advisable[06:30:26] <lunaphyte> submission should require smtp auth[06:30:29] <lunaphyte> not be based on source ip address[06:30:36] <lunaphyte> just configure the client to perform auth[06:30:43] <clarjon1> I would if I could.[06:30:49] <lunaphyte> oh, why can't you?[06:31:16] <clarjon1> Because vmware didn't think that smtp auth should be included in the esxi i'm stuck with :)[06:31:49] <lunaphyte> oh, that must be an old version[06:31:51] <clarjon1> being able to smtp auth would be SO much easier than this rigamarole.[06:32:01] <lunaphyte> iirc, current versions support smtp auth[06:32:07] <lunaphyte> and encryption too, naturally[06:32:13] <clarjon1> do they. Will have to try and get approval for a better version[06:32:31] <clarjon1> Until then, would this theoretically work?[06:32:44] <lunaphyte> well, if you have garbage clients like that [it happens], use check_client_access and a cidr map.[06:32:48] <lunaphyte> don't use mynetworks[06:32:55] <lunaphyte> that is best kept empty[06:33:30] <clarjon1> ty kindly :)[06:33:36] <lunaphyte> sure thing[06:35:13] <clarjon1> And this shouldn't interfere with the existing users being able to auth? Have users with DHCP so i can't whitelist everyone easily.[06:35:33] <lunaphyte> i'm not sure i follow[06:35:46] <lunaphyte> this should only be implemented for your submission service[06:35:55] <lunaphyte> the same service where smtp auth is offered[06:35:57] <lunaphyte> not for port 25[06:36:00] <clarjon1> Mhm.[06:36:45] <lunaphyte> it's late, i have to run. good luck![06:53:23] *** pinPoint <pinPoint!~pinPoint@about/windows/regular/pinpoint> has quit IRC (Quit: Incoming fire has the right of way.)[06:55:59] *** aero-224 <aero-224!~aero-224@66.18.218.182> has quit IRC ()[07:08:15] *** r0kc4t <r0kc4t!~frosch@felderundfiguren.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:09:39] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.187.91> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:16:10] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:18:02] *** aindilis` <aindilis`!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[07:21:45] *** Reinhilde is now known as Ellenor[07:30:52] *** Niemi <Niemi!niemi@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-ufszgbwvwvtesucv> has joined #postfix[07:34:26] *** bedah <bedah!~bedah@2a02:810d:1c0:3608:89ec:d049:8b51:ed9e> has joined #postfix[07:44:42] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[07:46:28] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[08:01:30] *** aindilis` <aindilis`!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:04:15] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[08:15:16] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[08:15:27] *** pinPoint <pinPoint!~pinPoint@about/windows/regular/pinpoint> has joined #postfix[08:35:23] *** Voovode <Voovode!~Alex@94.197.121.76.threembb.co.uk> has joined #postfix[08:39:10] *** john51 <john51!~john@15255.s.t4vps.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:40:51] *** kilburn <kilburn!~kilburnsc@aiur.la3.org> has joined #postfix[08:40:51] *** kilburn <kilburn!~kilburnsc@aiur.la3.org> has quit IRC (Changing host)[08:40:51] *** kilburn <kilburn!~kilburnsc@unaffiliated/kilburn> has joined #postfix[08:46:41] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[08:53:20] <Robby> anyone here encountered a similar issue with debian and postfix where systemd/systemctl fails to bring up postfix but simply running "postfix start" from the shell works fine?[08:54:26] <camile> hello![08:54:28] <Robby> I do not get any useful log output whatsoever from systemd/systemctl, it just says thats it is starting postfix, and then that it has started it[08:54:40] <Robby> very strange[08:54:51] <camile> how i can track my bounces in some formal way, i don't want to parse maillog![08:54:52] <ukleinek> Robby: you don't make use of socket activation?[08:55:30] <Robby> ukleinek: I don't know.. I make use of the default method in debian stretch[08:56:02] <Robby> this works fine in other virtual machines[08:56:10] <Robby> just not this one, it doesn't make sense[08:56:42] *** shal3r <shal3r!~shal3r@80.232.250.159> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:57:41] <Robby> its like systemd/systemctl is broken or something[08:57:46] <Robby> only for postfix[08:58:57] *** Voovode <Voovode!~Alex@94.197.121.76.threembb.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:59:06] <ukleinek> maybe related to postfix-instance-generator[08:59:43] <Robby> I've never heard of that[09:00:00] * ukleinek neither, just saw this on my stretch system[09:00:04] <ukleinek> /lib/systemd/system-generators/postfix-instance-generator[09:00:10] <Robby> I'm trying to find how systemctl starts it to see, but ExecStart=/bin/true inside of postfix.service[09:00:19] <Robby> oh, let me see[09:01:36] *** shal3r <shal3r!~shal3r@80.232.250.159> has joined #postfix[09:02:34] <ukleinek> Robby: ls /run/systemd/generator/postfix.service.wants[09:03:46] <Robby> I just fixed it[09:04:05] <Robby> the earlier file you showed me prompted me to check the manpage[09:04:33] <Robby> I then issued "systemctl daemon-reload"[09:04:37] <Robby> and then "systemctl start postfix"[09:04:38] <Robby> and fixed[09:04:50] <Robby> no idea why I needed to do that[09:04:51] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:05:12] <Robby> something must have gotten fubar somehow :s[09:05:52] <dka> Hi, I have a postfix mail server that is sending email, but no external domains can received it, I dont receive return error mails, I can see the email status in the log to send. My IaaS is OVH, I use openldap for handling multiple domains and account[09:05:58] <Robby> thx ukleinek :)[09:06:18] <dka> I am about to configure a relay to gmail but I'd like to find somebody experienced first to help me diagnostise why this is happening[09:20:13] <Robby> hmm[09:20:29] <Robby> reboot vm and its broken again[09:20:40] <Robby> I.......wtf.[09:21:17] <Robby> I'm confused by this[09:22:00] <Robby> running systemctl daemon-reload again and it works, again.[09:22:52] <survietamine> I don't think it's the better place to ask support about systemd[09:23:15] <Robby> well, at first I thought it was a postfix thing[09:23:57] <survietamine> did you check with systemd tools?[09:24:04] <Robby> now it indeed seems to change towards a systemd issue[09:24:23] <Robby> I did, nothing useful[09:24:32] <Robby> only shows starting/started messages[09:24:37] <Robby> no errors[09:24:50] <Robby> not anything in /var/log/mail.* either[09:26:22] <Robby> I'm thinking about just reinstalling the VM but I'd like to know why a reboot breaks it again, though[09:27:36] <survietamine> I didn't read your whole story, but is that postfix installed with some distro package?[09:27:45] <Robby> why do I always encounter these vague problems :p[09:27:46] <survietamine> the systemd unit should work out of the box[09:27:58] <Robby> yes, thats why I'm so confused about this issue[09:28:31] <survietamine> maybe it's broken because it's not properly configured[09:28:43] <survietamine> and is that a real VM?[09:28:48] <survietamine> or is it a container?[09:28:51] <Robby> real VM[09:29:07] <Robby> one of a couple, all configured very similarly[09:29:07] <survietamine> ok[09:29:32] <survietamine> I had systemd problems with containers, so I changed conditions in the units[09:29:46] <survietamine> but for real VM, I guess it should be similar bare metal[09:29:53] <Robby> yeah, exactly[09:31:46] <Robby> I think something may have gotten corrupted somehow. according to mail logs postfix started fine on the first day that VM was installed (couple months back), but didn't anymore the next day it was rebooted[09:31:59] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[09:32:03] <Robby> only noticed it now because it wasn't in active use, it was standing by[09:33:12] <Robby> its strange that a reboot breaks it again, like something doesn't want to "stick"[09:33:27] <survietamine> I don't think it's weird[09:33:44] <Robby> I think it is, considering nobody touched the VMs[09:34:06] <survietamine> I cannot say about that[09:34:19] <survietamine> but you should investigate more with systemd[09:34:26] <survietamine> start it with systemd[09:34:41] <survietamine> check its status, check journalctl, etc.[09:34:52] <Robby> I already tried and did all that[09:35:27] <Robby> after that yielded no results I came here to ask if anybody else ever experienced something similar[09:37:15] <survietamine> since it's debian, I'd ask in #debian[09:37:23] <survietamine> or some channel more specific about systemd[09:37:34] <Robby> also did ask in #debian but nobody responded to it[09:38:44] <Robby> yeah[09:39:07] <Robby> currently I'm more inclined to just reinstall the VM and get it over with, I've already lost a lot of time on this investigating the issue (with no permanent fix, it turns out)[09:39:24] <survietamine> why don't you just reinstall postfix package?[09:39:33] <Robby> I could try that[09:39:45] <Robby> I'll try that, sure why not[09:39:45] <survietamine> I'd backup the conf[09:39:53] <survietamine> purge the package and reinstall it[09:40:27] <survietamine> if it runs properly and is reboot proof, then the debian package is not broken[09:40:46] <Robby> the debian package certainly is fine, it works ok in other VMs, just not this one[09:40:54] <survietamine> ah[09:41:01] <survietamine> then, maybe compare them[09:41:19] <survietamine> compare systemd configuration for your postfix service between all these machines[09:41:21] <Robby> but I'll try it, but I'll probably end up reinstalling the VM because what if this works indeed, something else that is not immediately obvious may be broken as well :s[09:41:27] <survietamine> systemctl cat postfix[09:41:33] <survietamine> or whatever its name[09:41:49] <pj> Robby: you should ask for help in #debian[09:42:05] <pj> at the end of the day it's a packaging or systemd issue at hand, not a postfix issue.[09:42:36] <survietamine> sure it's not a postfix problem :p[09:42:39] <Robby> you are right, but I don't want to be a spammy mf and repeat my questions every x amount of time in #debian[09:42:53] <Robby> (as nobody responds at first)[09:43:18] <Robby> so I try to troubleshoot myself at first :)[09:43:29] <survietamine> maybe, but irc is not the only support.[09:43:35] <pj> that's fairly typical of IRC, you need to wait, or ask at a time when more people are there.[09:43:37] <survietamine> Try some mail list, forums, etc[09:43:42] <Robby> true, I know that :p[09:43:47] <Robby> but time is not always on our side[09:43:54] <survietamine> or you need to be more expert with systemd things :p[09:43:56] <pj> at any rate the appropriate place for this is debian support.[09:43:59] <Robby> I'm quicker if I just reinstall the damn thing and see what that gives us[09:44:17] <Robby> if it persists, I will have to try and ask again[09:44:28] <survietamine> I've read that many debian/ubuntu users read archlinux documentation for more complete knowledge[09:44:34] <pj> Robby: you can ask in #systemd they might be able to help.[09:44:35] <survietamine> because debian doc is a bit short[09:46:04] <Robby> k, I parked myself there just in case[09:48:44] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:02:40] <Robby> ok[10:04:34] <Robby> just for reference, my issues seems to be this one: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=877992[10:05:32] <Robby> commenting out inet_interfaces and smtp_bind_address6 in main.cf, and problems are gone, even across reboots[10:07:11] *** sep_ <sep_!~sep@2a04:2747:7e0b:d700:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:07:30] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a04:2747:7e0b:d700:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has joined #postfix[10:11:45] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:14:22] <survietamine> so debian broke the package?[10:16:07] <pj> it looks like it. It has to do with debian trying to launch postfix before networking is fully up to determine some stuff, and having inet_interfaces defined when the interface is not up yet means that postfix barfs on that and so debian refuses to go on and launch postfix after the networking is up.[10:16:17] <pj> so it's debian being too clever for it's own good, as usual.[10:16:31] <pj> at least that'smy take on it.[10:19:21] <pj> what debian is trying to do, btw, is to run postmulti to get a list of postfix instances. It does this even if you do not have multiple instances configured.[10:23:39] <ukleinek> Robby: systemctl status postfix@-[10:24:32] <ukleinek> Robby: systemctl status postfix is wrong[10:43:20] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has joined #postfix[10:50:47] <survietamine> :p[10:51:07] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[10:51:44] <survietamine> I don't get it. Maintainers at debian/ubuntu don't properly test their own packages?[10:52:18] <survietamine> ok, don't feed the troll :D[10:55:32] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[11:00:47] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:01:00] <ukleinek> survietamine: Maintainers are humans with limited time[11:01:46] <survietamine> replace them with machines :p[11:01:56] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[11:02:34] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[11:07:28] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has joined #postfix[11:09:48] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[11:10:09] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has joined #postfix[11:10:37] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:b809:c1fb:55c0:eb79> has joined #postfix[11:12:28] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:20:27] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@194-151-200-46.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:23:38] <dka> I have the following in my log when I try to send an email : `Feb 22 10:18:44 mail postfix/smtp[1779]: 478B73601C73: to=<d.DWQDWQDQWDQW at gmail dot com>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=2.8, delays=1.6/0.01/0/1.2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 880D83601C7B)`[11:24:07] <dka> However , the mail is never received on the gmail account, I have also tried with @gmx.de and @laposte.net and nothing is send outside, I dont receive any error message as a reply[11:25:05] <dka> This is my postconf -n : https://paste.gnome.org/pz3zlgn5y[11:25:30] <dka> I give one point to the one who tell me what's going on :o[11:27:18] *** rob0_ <rob0_!~rob0@pdpc/valentine/postfixninja/rob0> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:27:58] <ukleinek> dka: check your amavis logs, that's where your mail was sent to AFAICT[11:29:23] <dka> This is amavis log : `Feb 22 10:18:44 mail amavis[647]: (00647-01) Passed CLEAN {RelayedOutbound}, LOCAL [172.16.0.1]:60162 <my.account at mydomain dot com> -> <d.DWQDWQDQWDQW at gmail dot com>, Queue-ID: 478B73601C73, Message-ID: <78aff208-178b-5c54-b58b-bb9e56e061b6 at mydomain dot com>, mail_id: wtDtCxVg-3mz, Hits: -0.878, size: 31785, queued_as: 880D83601C7B, 1164 ms`[11:31:03] <dka> ukleinek, I used to have only one domain used by my server. Because I use LDAP, I have created a second domain and some users and aliases on LDAP, I can send email locally and receive email for any domains. I Have only edited the ldap configuration because I think the postfix configuration was already suffiscient . Maybe I am wrong, do I have anything to configure on postfix after adding a second domain on ldap ?[11:31:22] <dka> I dont think so (problem is sending not receiving), but just in case I am an idiot[11:33:43] <ukleinek> dka: where does amavis put the passed mail to?[11:33:56] <dka> dovecot[11:34:17] <ukleinek> dka: we're talking about outgoing mail, don't we?[11:34:26] <dka> yes[11:34:27] <dka> sorry[11:34:37] <dka> So I think it is postfix => to gmail[11:35:12] <ukleinek> does amavis ship the mail to gmail? I think this is (let's call it) unusual.[11:37:44] <dka> ukleinek, I think amavis is giving it to postfix so postfix is sending it to gmail[11:38:13] <dka> If you are speaking about clamav and spamasssin, yes i have it[11:38:20] <dka> I was not aware of the flow[11:43:57] *** keanne <keanne!~kenneth@119.92.192.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:44:54] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@194-151-200-46.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[11:46:04] <ukleinek> dka: so if amavis gives the mail back to postfix to actually send it, you should see this in the logs[11:50:26] *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has joined #postfix[11:51:36] <dka> This is the logs ; https://paste.gnome.org/pjdbintvp[11:52:34] *** fred_tv <fred_tv!~fred_tv@host242-32-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[11:53:09] *** Isla_de_Muerte <Isla_de_Muerte!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:53:40] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has joined #postfix[11:56:05] *** led_ir23 <led_ir23!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[11:56:32] *** kingkong <kingkong!antalya@shellium/member/kingkong> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:56:50] *** kingkong <kingkong!antalya@chatq.net> has joined #postfix[11:56:51] *** kingkong <kingkong!antalya@chatq.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[11:56:51] *** kingkong <kingkong!antalya@shellium/member/kingkong> has joined #postfix[11:57:55] *** Getty <Getty!getty@88.198.38.47> has joined #postfix[11:58:13] *** marmotta <marmotta!~skodde@unaffiliated/skodde> has joined #postfix[11:58:14] *** e4ward <e4ward!~e4ward@nyc.e4ward.com> has joined #postfix[11:58:15] *** spammy_ <spammy_!~shawniver@206.225.79.131> has joined #postfix[11:58:17] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:b809:c1fb:55c0:eb79> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:58:22] *** K1rk_ <K1rk_!~Kirk@secure.fe100.net> has joined #postfix[11:58:32] *** atmx_ <atmx_!~atmx@185.40.20.96> has joined #postfix[11:58:34] *** fred_tv <fred_tv!~fred_tv@host242-32-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:58:53] *** fred_tv <fred_tv!~fred_tv@93-46-196-134.ip109.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[11:59:06] *** treefrob_ <treefrob_!~treefrob@p57A96059.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[11:59:11] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** K1rk <K1rk!~Kirk@secure.fe100.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** jeev <jeev!~j@unaffiliated/jeev> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** _Getty <_Getty!getty@stardestroyer.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** treefrob <treefrob!~treefrob@p57A96059.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@206.225.79.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** MrC <MrC!Ben@mrbenc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** SupaYoshi <SupaYoshi!~SupaYoshi@104.129.10.95> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** atmx <atmx!~atmx@185.40.20.96> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** alnr <alnr!~e4ward@unaffiliated/alnr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** skodde <skodde!~skodde@unaffiliated/skodde> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:12] *** alad <alad!~alad@archlinux/trusteduser/alad> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:59:14] *** alad_ <alad_!~alad@archlinux/trusteduser/alad> has joined #postfix[11:59:20] *** led_ir23 is now known as led_ir22[11:59:42] *** jeev_ <jeev_!~j@unaffiliated/jeev> has joined #postfix[12:00:00] *** MrC <MrC!Ben@mrbenc.net> has joined #postfix[12:00:11] *** K1rk_ is now known as K1rk[12:00:28] *** SupaYoshi <SupaYoshi!~SupaYoshi@104.129.10.95> has joined #postfix[12:03:11] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[12:04:45] *** spammy_ <spammy_!~shawniver@206.225.79.131> has left #postfix[12:06:27] *** klow <klow!sid213056@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bobfkdmmzbbhnwrk> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[12:09:55] *** datasmurf <datasmurf!~datasmurf@unaffiliated/datasmurf> has joined #postfix[12:17:38] <Robby> ukleinek: yeah, I see that now :P[12:18:33] <Robby> the workaround seems to be: systemctl enable postfix at - 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I get 2 emails[13:49:23] <BlackBishop> and I was thinking there must be a nice way to take care of this situation[13:49:28] <tuxick> ye i see[13:49:58] <tuxick> uhm, not sure now, but sounds like 2 mails come in?[13:50:16] <tuxick> depends a bit on what sending server does, i think[13:50:55] <BlackBishop> I think it's because the sending server has dovecot_destination_recipient_limit = 1 ?[13:52:20] *** MrC <MrC!Ben@mrbenc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:53:02] <BlackBishop> I can control the sending server too .. that's why I'm wondering what can I do ?[13:55:25] *** MrC <MrC!Ben@mrbenc.net> has joined #postfix[13:55:37] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[13:56:09] *** Niemi <Niemi!niemi@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-ufszgbwvwvtesucv> has quit IRC (Quit: bb)[13:57:34] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has joined #postfix[13:58:45] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:01:30] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has joined #postfix[14:03:45] <tuxick> BlackBishop: no, dovecot settings on sending server have nothing to do with sending :)[14:04:02] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.75.57> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:04:03] <tuxick> but, is that server sending 1 or 2 mails?[14:04:52] <BlackBishop> well, I don't think the sending side should care, the sender doesn't have the slightest idea if BlackBishop@ is in office@ alias .. or even if office@ is an alias ![14:05:13] <tuxick> of course not[14:05:18] <BlackBishop> it should group mails to same domain in 1 connection tough or less[14:05:20] <BlackBishop> right ?[14:05:30] <BlackBishop> so the destination could do de-duplication[14:05:34] <tuxick> yeah[14:05:39] <tuxick> but did you verify?[14:05:47] <tuxick> first make sure what happens where[14:06:24] <tuxick> if receiving server gets 2 mails you can't expect it to dedup that, for example[14:06:45] <tuxick> afaict all scenarios are possible :)[14:08:16] <BlackBishop> true. yep.[14:09:17] <dka> Is mydestination required when Using Multiplee domain[14:09:56] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[14:12:52] <patdk-lap> no[14:13:07] <patdk-lap> !mydestination[14:13:07] <knoba> patdk-lap: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents. 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When an user send an email for 2 users that have the auto-reply configured, i only receive the first message. Please see : https://pastebin.com/0M7cefT4[16:20:58] <emaia> If i send an email for each user, i receice the vacation notification[16:22:15] <rob0> !enable_long_queue_ids[16:22:15] <knoba> rob0: "enable_long_queue_ids" : Enable long, non-repeating, queue IDs (queue file names). The benefit of non-repeating names is simpler logfile analysis and easier queue migration (there is no need to run postsuper to change queue file names that don't match their message file inode number). See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#enable_long_queue_ids[16:22:23] <rob0> enable_long_queue_ids=yes[16:33:16] <emaia> i changed enable_long_queue_ids=yes, bute same issue : https://pastebin.com/yEmgwLBm[16:35:32] <rob0> I didn't suggest that it would fix anything, but it will make tracing emails easier.[16:36:04] <survietamine> !pastebin[16:36:04] <knoba> survietamine: "pastebin" : A pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, pastebin.ca, paste.ee, ptpb.pw, ix.io and many others. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[16:36:08] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:36:15] <rob0> Anyway, is this a Postfix problem or a gnarwl problem?[16:37:37] <emaia> rob0: right[16:37:57] <emaia> really i don't know... if is Postfix or gnarwl[16:38:15] <emaia> i hope someone could help me[16:39:36] <rob0> Postfix won't silently discard mail (unless horribly misconfigured, but even then, it wouldn't be silent.) So it's surely a gnarwl problem.[16:40:22] *** miah42 <miah42!~miah42@p5DCE49A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[16:41:50] <emaia> do you know if by default, gnarwl will send 2 emails?[16:44:51] <miah42> i[16:45:13] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[16:50:24] <miah42> hello, i've got a n MX server responsible for local and remote delivery of emails via postfix. is it possible to check for message size limit with remote servers befor accepting an email for delivery? as i understand it,,it is an SMTP servers responsibility to send bounce mails and a MX server shouldnt have to send bounce mails otherwise it will be held hostage by some blacklist operators.[16:52:36] <rob0> emaia, I have never used it, and we don't get any questions about it here.[16:53:20] <rob0> held hostage? Huh?[16:53:39] <survietamine> they have guns[16:54:13] <rob0> miah42, no, just keep a sane message_size_limit[16:54:32] <miah42> :D[16:55:12] <survietamine> tell people not sending bluray iso as attachments[16:55:48] <rob0> yes, definitely :)[16:56:04] <survietamine> damn, conjure-up killed my server[16:56:14] <survietamine> my server is hostage of conjure-up[16:56:32] <miah42> the message size limit of our server is 20mb but some of our customers only have a limitm of 10 mb[16:57:05] <survietamine> 16:32:08 up 21:46, 2 users, load average: 3430,70, 3447,41, 3016,93 <-- hostage[16:57:08] <survietamine> :/[16:57:13] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[16:57:29] <rob0> 20 isn't terribly insane, but 10 (the default) is more conservative.[16:58:48] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[16:58:58] <miah42> sure but its a limit i cant change. just thought that there might be a possibility to continue checking like with existing users.[16:59:27] <miah42> google didnt know an answer either.[17:02:49] <emaia> rob0: do you recomend other vacation program?[17:05:07] <tuxick> sieve[17:05:13] <tuxick> best by far is no vacation though[17:05:40] <patdk-lap> autoresponders are insanely stupid[17:05:48] <patdk-lap> and they normally end up being used for backscatter[17:05:51] <tuxick> and annoying[17:08:18] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Quit: telnet irc.freenode.net 6667)[17:09:07] <rob0> miah42, but I do know the answer, and I told you, it's no. You could write a policy service to check for destination's SIZE= in EHLO response, but I don't see why that matters. You're only going to send bounces to your own users. Are they reporting you to some evil DNSBL to hold you hostage?[17:10:06] <tuxick> bouncing is bad m'kay[17:10:09] <tuxick> cuz it's bad[17:11:04] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[17:11:24] <patdk-lap> miah42, I don't get why it would send bounces[17:11:31] <patdk-lap> it should NEVER send a bounce[17:12:15] <rob0> If a user submits an 18MB email going to a 10MB recipient, the user would get a bounce.[17:12:33] <patdk-lap> yes, but that will be local on his system[17:12:46] <patdk-lap> it won't be a remote bounce, it will be a reject[17:13:13] <rob0> If the destination MX reports SIZE= to EHLO, Postfix/smtp(8) will disconnect without attempting to send.[17:14:33] <miah42> well receive a message, accept it because wece checked if there is a valid recipient on the remote exchange server that we want to pass the message to. now accept the message end are trying to send it. but the remote server refuses the message because of a size constraint. and because weve accepted the message were theoreticaly responsible for sending a bounce message.[17:15:33] <patdk-lap> that exchange server is yours? not a remote system?[17:15:46] <patdk-lap> your outside mta should not accept email larger than your internal systems can handle[17:16:18] <rob0> so it sounds like the problem is within your company[17:17:04] <rob0> Your MSexchange system is reporting you to DNSBLs for bounces?[17:17:22] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:17:26] <miah42> thats the point. im an MX server (NOT SMTP) and responsible vor local and relay delivery. but sme customers have lower size limits on their servers.[17:17:55] <rob0> this is sounding like a political problem[17:17:58] <miah42> some = some of our relay customers[17:18:11] <miah42> it shure does :D[17:18:47] <rob0> Notify these customers that they must match your message_size_limit if they wish to use your service.[17:18:58] <miah42> but im more then happy to accept no as an answer. uur customers just might have to adjust.[17:19:32] <miah42> thanks fot the help in clearing that up. :)[17:19:32] <rob0> I gave you the answer and an uncoded workaround.[17:19:35] <rob0> yw[17:32:21] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:34:20] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[17:45:28] <emaia> other question: How o configure mandatory TLS but only with specific domains, all the other communication should not be encrypted ?[17:46:38] <rob0> !smtp_tls_policy_maps[17:46:39] <knoba> rob0: "smtp_tls_policy_maps" : optional lookup tables with the Postfix SMTP client TLS security policy by next-hop destination. The lookup result is a security level (none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure), followed by an optional list of whitespace and/or comma separated name=value attributes that override related main.cf settings. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.[17:46:52] <rob0> I think, look it up here:[17:46:54] <rob0> !tls[17:46:54] <knoba> rob0: "tls" : Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). Previously known as SSL, TLS adds a layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, submission, IMAP or POP3 to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS is implemented using the STARTTLS method, while the non-standard wrapper style of implementation is deprecated at this point. See http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html for more info.[17:47:58] <rob0> bah, another factoid we need to fix, stupid RFC 8614[17:49:34] <emaia> and about this text: "You can ENFORCE the use of TLS, so that the Postfix SMTP server announces STARTTLS and accepts no mail without TLS encryption, by setting "smtpd_tls_security_level = encrypt". According to RFC 2487 this MUST NOT be applied in case of a publicly-referenced Postfix SMTP server. This option is off by default and should only seldom be used. "[17:50:29] <emaia> the smtp_tls_policy_maps will override?[17:51:07] <emaia> the server will receive emails from internet without TLS ?[17:55:22] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[17:56:04] <rob0> !smtp!=smtpd[17:56:04] <knoba> rob0: "smtp!=smtpd" : Postfix smtp_* and smtpd_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtp_ = client and smtpd_ = server, the client-side sends mail whilst the server-side receives mail. (smtp = client = sends mail) (smtpd = server = receives mail)[17:58:35] <emaia> ok, so smtp will work based on smtp_tls_policy_maps configurations[17:59:08] <emaia> thank you[18:00:41] *** miah42 <miah42!~miah42@p5DCE49A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:02:08] <rob0> It's a bit more tricky to enforce TLS inbound. You could use a check_{sender,client}_access lookup with "reject_plaintext_session" as the result.[18:02:47] <rob0> The lookup key would be sender domain or client IP/hostname respectively.[18:03:37] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[18:08:46] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@194-151-200-46.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Neo4)[18:09:50] <emaia> i need outbound only requirement by gov entities...[18:16:19] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@74.85.159.242> has joined #postfix[18:20:06] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[18:21:34] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix[18:24:02] *** FortunateSon <FortunateSon!~Fortunate@rrcs-67-79-54-156.sw.biz.rr.com> has joined #postfix[18:26:10] <FortunateSon> long question incoming ... small wall of text...[18:26:21] <FortunateSon> I'm new to postfix so please forgive me if this is a noob question. I have postfix running as an outbound MTA only, no user mailboxes are hosted on the postfix box and no inbound mail is coming to the postfix box. I have a host that will be relaying email through the postfix box and I want to only allow emails from this host to go to a pre-approved set of domains/addresses. This same postfix box will be relaying email from a[18:26:21] <FortunateSon> few other hosts that need to be able to send email anywhere. I just want to restrict this one host. I have looked into using transport maps but these seem like they are system wide and not applicable to a single host. Header checks seem like they will work but is this against best practices? Any guidance you can offer will be very appreciated. Also please point me toward any relevant documentation you are aware of. Thank[18:26:22] <FortunateSon> you in advance.[18:29:23] <rob0> !check_recipient_access[18:29:24] <knoba> rob0: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[18:29:31] <rob0> !access[18:29:31] <knoba> rob0: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[18:29:51] <rob0> !smtpd_relay_restrictions[18:29:51] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_relay_restrictions" : Restrictions to control relaying, implemented in Postfix 2.10. Prior to 2.10 smtpd_recipient_restrictions included this functionality. See !access and http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_relay_restrictions[18:31:06] <rob0> smtpd_relay_restrictions = check_recipient_access hash:$config_directory/approved_destinations, permit_sasl_authenticated[18:31:32] <FortunateSon> holy carp, do you guys have an auto-response for every thing? That's awesome.[18:31:36] <rob0> smtpd_relay_restrictions = check_recipient_access hash:$config_directory/approved_destinations, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject[18:32:04] <rob0> oops, wrong[18:32:08] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10::719e:e3e1> has joined #postfix[18:32:13] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[18:32:15] <rob0> smtpd_relay_restrictions = check_recipient_access hash:$config_directory/approved_destinations, reject[18:32:35] <rob0> approved_destinations contains "example.com permit_sasl_authenticated"[18:32:42] *** kitikonti <kitikonti!~kitikonti@185.51.128.163> has joined #postfix[18:32:52] <rob0> (a line for each destination)[18:33:30] <rob0> header_checks would not work, not reliably[18:33:57] <FortunateSon> and I can set smtpd_relay_restrictions up on a per sending host basis?[18:34:35] <rob0> hm?[18:35:09] <rob0> are you saying that the approved destinations vary by source?[18:35:23] <rob0> oh[18:35:28] <FortunateSon> yes.[18:35:43] * rob0 reread the wall of text :)[18:35:59] <FortunateSon> This MTA has 5 email servers behind it. I only want to restrict the destinations available to one of the sending servers.[18:37:13] <rob0> smtpd_relay_restrictions = check_client_access cidr:$config_directory/full_access_hosts.cidr check_recipient_access hash:$config_directory/approved_destinations, reject[18:38:20] <rob0> full_access_hosts.cidr contains "192.0.2.25 permit_sasl_authenticated", one line per host or one or more CIDR expressions to list them all.[18:40:39] <FortunateSon> rob0: Thank you. It's going to take me a little bit to decipher exactly what you have typed out there.[18:41:07] <rob0> yep, yw[18:47:41] *** axisys_ <axisys_!~axisys@ip68-98-177-155.dc.dc.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[18:48:04] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has joined #postfix[18:52:58] *** kitikonti <kitikonti!~kitikonti@185.51.128.163> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[18:55:08] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[19:01:12] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[19:17:51] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[19:18:04] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:18:04] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[19:27:25] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:28:43] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[19:35:07] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:35:40] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[19:39:01] <BlackBishop> tuxick: so I think there is only 1 connection but 2 separate mails[19:40:31] <BlackBishop> tried to send a mail via swiftmailer .. which maybe does that, I'll try a more dumbed down approach[19:42:54] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Write error: Connection reset by peer)[19:44:35] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:55:30] <tuxick> log should show[20:09:03] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[20:09:34] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[20:12:56] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:13:28] <BlackBishop> tuxick: so I made a simple sample script to open a socket and do stuff[20:13:30] <BlackBishop> https://dpaste.de/vhec/raw[20:13:52] <BlackBishop> still, 2 mails[20:14:33] <BlackBishop> the 500 error eludes me right now but it seems to work either way[20:16:24] <BlackBishop> extra empty new line after . , fixed.[20:17:22] <BlackBishop> so, I'm sending the right way, right ? only 1 email should arrive ![20:17:22] <tuxick> can't you just look at server log?[20:17:34] <BlackBishop> you have the remote server log there too[20:17:43] <BlackBishop> I'm trying to remove the "client server[20:18:08] <BlackBishop> I just emulated a direct client talking to the remote server[20:18:57] <patdk-lap> well, what did you expect?[20:19:07] <BlackBishop> patdk-lap: only 1 mail ...[20:19:15] <patdk-lap> but you specified two people[20:19:15] <BlackBishop> testalias is an alias to adrians[20:19:27] <patdk-lap> yes, so don't put adrians in there then[20:19:33] <patdk-lap> postfix will NOT dedup[20:19:40] <patdk-lap> dovecot has an option to do that[20:20:27] <BlackBishop> ow ! :) great. can ya' point me in the right direction ?[20:20:31] <patdk-lap> if you want that to work as expected, don't use aliases, use a proper mailing list manager that doesn't duplicate the sender[20:20:42] <patdk-lap> I just did, dovecot[20:21:00] <patdk-lap> but dovecot won't do it, cause your emails are invalid[20:21:16] <BlackBishop> patdk-lap: was thinking about the directive, but I'll google.[20:21:18] <BlackBishop> how come ?[20:21:25] <patdk-lap> lda(adrians at museknowledge dot com): sieve: msgid=unspecified: stored mail into mailbox 'INBOX.adriansandu'[20:21:29] <patdk-lap> msgid=unspecified[20:21:43] <BlackBishop> hmmm[20:22:16] <patdk-lap> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Pigeonhole/Sieve/Extensions/Duplicate[20:23:09] <BlackBishop> so everything should of worked by default, the only problem being the msg=unspecified[20:25:25] <BlackBishop> who should specify that msgid ? :/[20:30:57] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[20:33:42] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:38:47] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:42:40] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[20:45:31] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[20:50:37] *** DTZUZU <DTZUZU!~DTZUZU@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[21:01:38] <BlackBishop> got it, the sender server should, ok :)[21:01:44] <BlackBishop> now the dovecot part :)[21:02:43] *** section1 <section1!~section1@152.168.219.137> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:02:45] *** atmx_ is now known as atmx[21:15:13] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:15:48] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[21:27:55] <BlackBishop> done, fixed ! thanks ! :)[21:27:57] *** BlackBishop <BlackBishop!dexter@ipv6.d3xt3r01.tk> has left #postfix ("WeeChat 1.9.1")[21:31:06] *** wwl <wwl!~wwl@ipbcc2327c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[21:51:33] *** ukleinek <ukleinek!~ukl@unaffiliated/ukleinek> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:14:09] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[22:18:01] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:20:15] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216.75.116.100> has joined #postfix[22:21:10] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:24:58] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[22:27:21] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@74.85.159.242> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:27:21] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[22:38:22] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10::719e:e3e1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:41:50] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has joined #postfix[22:48:11] <rob0> Postfix 3.3.0 today, http://www.postfix.org/announcements/postfix-3.3.0.html[22:48:14] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC ()[22:50:51] <lunaphyte> lsblk[22:50:57] <lunaphyte> oopsies![22:51:02] <thumbs> dksdf sdfsf[22:51:33] *** wwl <wwl!~wwl@ipbcc2327c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[23:08:57] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:19:57] *** cgt <cgt!~cgt@wikipedia/cgt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:21:56] <buki> I'm running postfix-3.3.0.r1,1 ATM for a few days[23:22:46] <lunaphyte> postfix on an atm? cool![23:24:17] <buki> yeah .. on top of OS/2, no less! :)[23:24:24] <buki> I meant At The Moment[23:25:57] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host109-72-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:26:00] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:33:06] *** plujon <plujon!~user@c-67-171-241-16.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[23:40:15] *** cgt <cgt!~cgt@wikipedia/cgt> has joined #postfix[23:41:37] *** edux__ <edux__!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:48:35] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:49:41] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host109-72-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[23:55:35] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@65.183.151.121> has joined #postfix