February 21, 2018 
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<Zames!~Mutter@112.198.72.7> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[10:02:11] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:04:25] *** tinyhippo <tinyhippo!~tinyhippo@special-hostmask/abercs.tinyhippo> has joined #postfix[10:05:23] <tinyhippo> is there a way to reject unauthenticated internal email? so if I send an email, via telnet, to an address registered on the same server as the sender, I dont have to authenticate - yet if I try to send to an external address, I correctly receive relay not permitted[10:07:27] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[10:08:33] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:10:14] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:10:59] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[10:11:45] *** ]SiB[ 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ZZZzzz…)[10:46:49] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[10:48:25] <dka> Hi[10:48:54] <dka> I have a mail server that can send email but only locally, as soon as I try an external domain it just get send without any error or feedback, but users never receive my email;s[10:52:07] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.76.105> has joined #postfix[11:01:29] <petn-randall> hi dka, check the /topic on how to best get help in here.[11:01:39] <petn-randall> !getting_help dka[11:01:39] <knoba> petn-randall: Error: "getting_help" is not a valid command.[11:01:49] <petn-randall> !getting_help[11:01:49] <knoba> petn-randall: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[11:05:20] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[11:09:28] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[11:11:16] *** sep_ <sep_!~sep@2a04:2747:7e0b:d700:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has joined #postfix[11:13:06] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a04:2747:7e0b:d700:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:25:55] <tinyhippo> !showconfig[11:25:55] <knoba> tinyhippo: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[11:26:07] <tinyhippo> !pastebin[11:26:07] <knoba> tinyhippo: "pastebin" : A pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, pastebin.ca, paste.ee, ptpb.pw, ix.io and many others. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[11:29:18] <tinyhippo> my postconf -nf is https://dpaste.de/awO4/raw and my postconf -Mf is https://dpaste.de/Wawj/raw - how can I force users to authenticate when sending mail to another address on the same server as themselves - if I try to send email externally without authenticating, I get relay not permitted, and I would like a similar function for internal mail too[11:29:34] *** Ajzak <Ajzak!d9062f85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.6.47.133> has joined #postfix[11:33:13] <Ajzak> Hello[11:33:16] <Ajzak> Oh it works now[11:34:24] <Ajzak> Is anyone here bored and have a bit of time? I've been trying to set up a postfix email relay for a week now and i cant get it to work. Sending from the server with mailx works..but using a client (like MailBee) on another pc doesnt.[11:34:54] <Ajzak> I dont have anyone else to ask :([11:36:11] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.76.105> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[11:40:36] <pj> !tell Ajzak getting_help[11:40:36] <knoba> Ajzak: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[11:41:14] <Ajzak> !getting_help[11:41:14] <knoba> Ajzak: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[11:41:21] <Ajzak> !relevant_logs[11:41:21] <knoba> Ajzak: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[11:41:59] <Ajzak> !showconfig[11:41:59] <knoba> Ajzak: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[11:42:14] <Ajzak> Aight let me get this ready[11:43:10] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[11:44:36] *** danjel <danjel!~danjel@85.83.142.134> has joined #postfix[11:48:06] <Ajzak> Okay, i have the configurations on pastebin, Email-logs are not relevant i believe, since sending emails works on the server my problem is different. I will of course provide anything else needed within 20 seconds :)[11:56:52] *** sep_ <sep_!~sep@2a04:2747:7e0b:d700:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:57:13] *** sep <sep!~sep@2a04:2747:7e0b:d700:52e5:49ff:feeb:32> has joined #postfix[12:02:56] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.76.105> has joined #postfix[12:06:42] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:f0f2:2873:5c29:c3eb> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:10:19] <dka> !relevant_logs[12:10:19] <knoba> dka: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[12:10:36] <dka> !showconfig[12:10:36] <knoba> dka: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[12:10:44] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.76.105> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[12:14:17] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@host109-72-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[12:16:12] <dka> .I have checked my logs and I can see that there is a : status=deferred[12:16:14] <dka> what does that means ?[12:17:10] <Ajzak> post the complete log of that mail that was deffered[12:17:33] <Ajzak> the text next to that deffered is what is important[12:18:14] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[12:18:45] <dka> Ajzak, https://paste.gnome.org/plu81ea0i[12:21:34] <Ajzak> 7DCFA34C1027: from=<my.account at mydomain dot com>, size=11034, nrcpt=1 (queue active)[12:22:07] <Ajzak> seems you didnt change the configuration properly[12:22:24] <Ajzak> that looks to me like an unedited line from a guide[12:22:41] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:24:22] <dka> Ajzak, I dont get it.[12:24:57] <dka> I am note sure since when it started to not send email, but I have recently added another domain for that mail server.[12:25:03] <dka> Maybe it was not working before[12:25:05] <dka> can't be sure[12:25:14] <dka> I can send email to that mailserver only[12:25:15] <Ajzak> is your account (from which you want to send emails) my.accoun t?[12:25:47] <Ajzak> you have a user called my.account on your linux box or did you just edit out the info to hide it?[12:29:10] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.76.105> has joined #postfix[12:34:34] <dka> No I have another account, it looks very similar[12:34:44] <dka> it firstname.lastname at mydomain dot com[12:37:13] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@107.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[12:38:47] <alnx> dka: connect to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.203.26]:25: Connection timed out[12:38:57] <alnx> check your firewall/iptables[12:39:23] <dka> alnx, well, I dont know but even my host can't telnet 209.85.20.26 25[12:40:21] <alnx> >> check your firewall/iptables[12:41:27] <alnx> and allow port 25[12:42:11] <dka> but... even my personal host can't find this server[12:42:16] <dka> no rules can make it appear right ?[12:43:06] <alnx> what os your personal host run?[12:43:17] <dka> All are running on Debian 9[12:44:07] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@112.198.76.105> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[12:44:11] <dka> > <Ajzak> you have a user called my.account on your linux box or did you just edit out the info to hide it?[12:44:21] <dka> No in fact, I use ldap under the hood[12:45:33] <alnx> im not familiar with debian/ubuntu, i may be of any help to you for redhat/centos/fedora[12:47:38] <Ajzak> why are you using port 25 anyway?[12:47:49] <Ajzak> try over the submission port 587[12:48:13] <dka> well, I didnt configured it that way, port 25 is also secured[12:48:22] <dka> i have enforced starttls[12:50:30] <Ajzak> erm which smtp server are you using for relaying_[12:50:33] <Ajzak> smtp.gmail.com ?[12:50:52] <dka> it is it's own smtp server[12:51:53] <Ajzak> yeah, providers block port 25 normally[12:52:00] <Ajzak> thats why you need to use a relay[12:52:28] <Ajzak> thats why you are getting the time out[12:53:00] <Ajzak> but on the other hand 209.85.20.26 is not reachable at all[12:53:05] <Ajzak> at least i cant ping it[12:53:47] <dka> This is my postconf -n : https://paste.gnome.org/prebuu7vo[12:54:06] *** Poster|z <Poster|z!~poster@cpe-24-210-83-31.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:54:54] <dka> Ajzak, it is our organization mail server, it is supposed to receive and send mail, and not depend on any organization for that[12:55:31] <dka> I have configured it myself, I don't know why it send email to that address, it's propbably a google server down, but I cant imagine google having issues xD[12:55:42] <dka> Must be me somehow, I just don't know why[12:55:48] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@75.188.11.166> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:56:04] <Ajzak> did you try sending an email to some other address? thats not hosted by gmail[12:56:09] <Ajzak> like outlook or gmx or whatever[12:56:15] <Ajzak> to see if the same issue comes up[12:56:22] *** Poster|z <Poster|z!~poster@cpe-24-210-83-31.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[12:58:00] <dka> I dont have any[12:58:21] <dka> oh[12:58:40] <dka> i did send an email to a guy, and they are the one who told me they weren't receiving mails[12:58:56] <dka> I was trying to send to @marmelab.com not @gmail.com[12:59:06] <Ajzak> do you have logs from that email?[12:59:13] <dka> they might use gmail underthehood[12:59:21] <Ajzak> hmm[12:59:32] <Ajzak> wait[13:01:08] <Ajzak> send a test mail to testing.88 at gmx dot de[13:01:25] <Ajzak> and paste the logs from /var/log/mail.log[13:04:30] <dka> I have just send an email[13:04:33] <dka> y[13:04:47] <dka> This is the log: https://paste.gnome.org/peaifeb9f[13:04:58] <dka> Do you receive it ?[13:07:42] <Ajzak> no but the log is confusing me[13:07:46] *** section1 <section1!~section1@152.168.219.137> has joined #postfix[13:07:47] <Ajzak> did you send it to testing.88 at gmx dot de or g.88gmx.de[13:08:04] <Ajzak> to=<g.88 at gmx dot de>[13:08:06] <dka> g.88 at gmx dot de[13:08:16] <dka> damn[13:08:16] <Ajzak> thats wrong :D[13:08:21] <dka> yeah just noticed[13:08:23] <dka> thanks for telling me[13:09:55] <dka> I have now resend the email to : testing.88 at gmx dot de and this is the logs : https://paste.gnome.org/p1ukq7ctn[13:09:55] <tuxick> haha, ovh[13:09:58] <tuxick> problem solved[13:10:22] <dka> tuxick, me ?[13:10:45] <dka> my IaaS is OVH , what's wrong with that ?[13:12:36] <tuxick> many block ovh[13:12:43] <dka> Ajzak, did you received my email ?[13:13:03] <Ajzak> no nothing arrived yet[13:13:40] <Ajzak> not even in spam[13:13:50] <Ajzak> but your status is now "sent" +[13:14:00] <dka> but the logs is different from the one with the @gmail.com[13:16:34] <Ajzak> yeah your server was trying to connect to that ip to handover the email but that ip is not reachable at all.. maybe your dns is wrong and you got the wrong ip from the hostname[13:17:33] <dka> Ajzak, I have created a @laposte.net email and the status is send, I dont receive anything[13:17:42] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[13:19:13] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[13:19:31] <dka> tuxick, I have OVH and I need to send email with my mailserver, what are my possibilities against OVH block?[13:19:48] <tuxick> a relay :)[13:20:06] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[13:20:09] <tuxick> but the log isn't too clear to me[13:20:31] <tuxick> either way, when sending from ovh you will end up running into issues[13:20:44] <dka> But gmail will make me pay if I use their relay too much ? and they will look into my top secret emails too right :D>?[13:20:51] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[13:20:51] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[13:21:03] <Ajzak> google sees your secret emails anyway xD[13:21:20] <tuxick> i avoid using such services[13:21:40] <dka> Ajzak, is it true ? If I am sending from my server to a friend server ?[13:22:14] <Ajzak> it was a joke, but with all the spyware we use from google it wouldnt surprise me if everything is logged..[13:22:17] <dka> tuxick, how do you do?[13:23:43] <tuxick> i run my own :)[13:23:45] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:23:49] <dka> Well, I need to find a way to send emails from that mail server, which is my own[13:23:55] <dka> hosted at OVH[13:24:22] <dka> I really dont know what the hell is happening, ok the gmail address is not reachable, thats one pb, but why gmx.de and laposte.net are also not receiving anything ?\[13:24:41] <tuxick> try a telnet session[13:30:56] <Ajzak> tuxick so you know your way around postfix?[13:31:03] <Ajzak> maybe you can help me :D[13:32:40] *** TheFatherMind- <TheFatherMind-!~TheFather@cpe-104-34-204-52.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[13:35:32] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[13:35:57] *** TheFatherMind <TheFatherMind!~TheFather@cpe-104-34-204-52.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[13:40:48] <tuxick> Ajzak: way around postfix?[13:41:48] *** roukoswarf <roukoswarf!znc@rouk.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:43:30] *** giesen <giesen!~ggiesen@ego.giesen.me> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:44:32] *** kilburn <kilburn!~kilburnsc@unaffiliated/kilburn> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:44:56] *** giesen <giesen!~ggiesen@ego.giesen.me> has joined #postfix[13:46:46] *** roukoswarf <roukoswarf!znc@rouk.org> has joined #postfix[13:59:34] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@194-151-200-46.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Neo4)[14:01:59] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[14:15:17] <Gaaab> i have a postfix-dovecotserving multiple ssl enabled domains and database mysql set aside for $users and $domains[14:15:59] <Gaaab> letsencrypt has certificates only for the server machine domain[14:16:57] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@65.183.151.121> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[14:19:11] <Gaaab> guest domains use server machines domain for smtp and pop/imap[14:20:32] <Gaaab> can guest domains get trusted by server machine domain ?[14:20:55] <Gaaab> sorry for crap english[14:22:30] <dka> I'm really stuck[14:23:06] <dka> In which case a postfix mail server accept to send an email without any email errors reply ?[14:23:19] <dka> Mail send outside get lost in translation[14:41:34] <ZWoz> Gaaab: can you explain more, what you mean by "can guest domains get trusted by server machine domain"[14:45:54] <tuxick> dka: if you're arrogant c*nt like hotmail[14:46:04] <tuxick> they have no problem making mail disappear[14:46:37] <tuxick> but proper mailservers don't do that[14:48:12] <Gaaab> domains hosted on this server have to be served with ssl ZWoz:[14:48:24] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Use that server machine domain, make hosts like mail.yourdomain.com for client access (imap/smtp)[14:51:50] <ZWoz> Gaaab: only way around is having dedicated IP for every domain, then you can have multiple domain specific certificates[14:52:56] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[14:53:31] <Gaaab> client@guestdomain connects to smtp.machinedomain.server and i get prompted for invalid certificate[14:53:56] <Gaaab> all of a sadden[14:57:04] <Gaaab> ZWoz: what do you mean with make hosts like mail.yourdomain.com for client access ?[14:59:35] <ZWoz> Gaaab: I meant don't use client domains for infrastructure, give them your own domain based[14:59:57] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@75.188.11.166> has joined #postfix[15:00:40] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[15:04:34] <ZWoz> Gaaab: does that prompt explain, what is wrong with certificate?[15:05:18] <Gaaab> it says invalid[15:05:30] <Gaaab> domains mismatch ?[15:06:09] <Gaaab> i ahve already confirmed security exception so i actually don't remeber more datsils[15:06:15] <Gaaab> details[15:09:48] <ZWoz> So, you gave cert for name smtp.machinedomain.server and you connect using that name? Are you sure that this warning comes from postfix (SMTP) and not from dovecot (IMAP)?[15:11:15] <ZWoz> You can verify, what certificates are served, openssl s_client -connect host:port[15:14:14] <Gaaab> i have user@guestdomain connecting to smtp.machinedomain.server which has its own ssl cert/key pair[15:16:39] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[15:16:46] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:17:09] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@74.85.159.242> has joined #postfix[15:19:37] <ZWoz> buki, yeah, that helps too[15:19:45] *** somepoortech__ <somepoortech__!~somepoort@72-0-128-26.static.firstlight.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:20:25] *** somepoortech <somepoortech!~somepoort@72-0-128-26.static.firstlight.net> has joined #postfix[15:36:14] <dka> I have postfix configured with ldap, I can receive emails from the outside without issue, I can send mail internaly without issue to any internal domain, I cant send email to external domains[15:36:44] <dka> my postfconf -*n https://paste.gnome.org/prebuu7vo[15:37:14] *** dvl <dvl!~dvl@freebsd/developer/dvl> has left #postfix ("Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com")[15:38:12] <dka> If I use gmail as a mailrelay, will it be able to send email to external domain ?[15:38:14] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:38:18] <dka> so far, they all get lost in translation[15:42:01] <dka> Is mynetworks correctly configured ?[15:46:41] <Ajzak> dka if you use gmail as a relay it will be able to send to where ever you want... thats what im currently using.[15:47:01] <Ajzak> From your main.cf only thing i would maybe change is may to encrypt for tls[15:47:27] <Ajzak> when its may it supports it but doesnt enforce it.. afaik some servers reject emails[15:48:53] <dka> Ajzak, smtpd_tls_security_level = true and smtp_tls_security_level = true ?[15:49:21] <Ajzak> smtpd_tls_security_level = may[15:49:24] <Ajzak> that i meant[15:49:32] <dka> only this one ?[15:49:42] <Ajzak> yeah[15:50:38] <dka> then I set relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587 , smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes , smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd, smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous , smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert.pem , smtp_use_tls = yes[15:50:45] <dka> and it will use gmail ?[15:51:12] <dka> but then, ethically, all my users needs to be warn that they are sending email through gmail ?[15:51:44] <dka> I will have something like [smtp.gmail.com]:587 USERNAME at gmail dot com:PASSWORD into /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd[15:51:57] <Ajzak> thats correct[15:52:00] <dka> (I am not completely happy to use Gmail)[15:52:03] <Ajzak> but that is just a workaround[15:52:10] <Ajzak> ideally you dont need a relay[15:52:20] <dka> I do not need to edit anything in the current config except the tls enforcment ?[15:52:24] <Ajzak> but if sending emails is important at the moment use it until you find the prbolem[15:52:59] <Ajzak> let me check again, i didnt see anything that doesnt look right[15:53:21] <Ajzak> double check your master.cf too, because master.cf overwrites main.cf if there are conflicting settings[15:53:29] <dka> But... I am 50% sure ( I know its very low in IT ) that I was sending emails before I started using multiple domains[15:53:50] <dka> But this should only affect reception, not sending so I do not understand. This is the other 50%[15:55:03] <dka> This is the log of cat master.cf and cat main.cf[15:55:06] <Ajzak> postfix is mainly for sending emails, reception is handled by dovecot as postfix is not a server[15:55:07] <dka> https://paste.gnome.org/p4bj2sgt3[15:58:08] *** cpm <cpm!~cpm@pdpc/supporter/active/cpm> has joined #postfix[15:59:05] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[16:01:21] <tuxick> Ajzak: that formulation needs some tweaking :)[16:01:38] <thumbs> Ajzak: heh?[16:02:36] <Ajzak> yeah not the best explanation i gave haha[16:04:05] <survietamine> ufff[16:13:22] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[16:31:43] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[16:35:20] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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It also says "The reply is always 450 in case the address->name or name->address lookup failed due to[17:24:18] <sigise> a temporary problem."[17:24:18] <sigise> How do you correctly deal with a server that actually DOES have a no-proper-(R)DNS-record problem, apparently ignores its own logs filling with 'my' 450 replies, and keeps trying to send to my server -- many hundreds of attempts so far.[17:24:18] <sigise> I was thinking of changing that to a perm-error, 5.x.x, in the hopes that that might have an effect. But given the "is always" above ... ?[17:30:29] *** Ajzak <Ajzak!d9062f85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.6.47.133> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:30:41] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[17:33:08] <rob0> A PTR lookup with NXDOMAIN response is not a temporary error. SERVFAIL or NOERROR or timeout could be temporary. IIUC if you set 550 for postconf.5.html#unknown_client_reject_code you will get what you want, and the possible temporary errors will override it when appropriate.[17:33:13] <rob0> !tias[17:33:13] <knoba> rob0: "tias" : Try It And See[17:37:47] <tuxick> sigise: some servers are really stupid[17:38:03] <tuxick> but idd, just try :)[17:38:16] *** infernix <infernix!nix@unaffiliated/infernix> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:38:25] <tuxick> otherwise there's always fail2ban[17:39:23] <sigise> The docs say "is always 450". There's no "unless" afaict. I'm asking if there's a different way to SMTP message such behaviors.[17:42:18] <rob0> The SMTP server always replies with 450 when the mapping failed due to a temporary error condition.[17:42:24] <rob0> **WHEN**[17:43:06] <rob0> A PTR lookup with NXDOMAIN response is not a temporary error.[17:43:14] <sigise> ah, postfix can differentiate ?[17:44:07] <sigise> so if I change that to = 550, it'll still respond with a 450 **WHEN** it *is* temporary failure?[17:44:33] <rob0> that's my understanding[17:45:00] <sigise> Thx. I do *not* get that from reading. Re-reading now. again.[17:45:25] *** john51 <john51!~john@15255.s.t4vps.eu> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:46:26] <rob0> Note, I cheated; this issue has come up on the mailing list, and someone who would know said something like that.[17:46:46] <rob0> I don't specifically remember when nor who.[17:47:21] *** zW <zW!~wesley@cheetah.pfoe.be> has joined #postfix[17:47:24] <zW> Hi there[17:48:12] <zW> I'm trying to configure multiple relay_domains lookups this way: relay_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/lookup1.cnf mysql:/etc/postfix/lookup2.cnf[17:49:00] <zW> But that doesn't give the result I was expecting, I just want the domain to be checked in two different databases, as it exist in one of two[17:49:18] *** john51 <john51!~john@15255.s.t4vps.eu> has joined #postfix[17:49:28] <zW> Any tips?[17:55:41] <rob0> The queries are done in order. If found in the first, the second is not queried.[17:55:49] <rob0> !postmapq[17:55:49] <knoba> rob0: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf you may check this mapping by running postmap -q example.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf and see if it works.[18:00:08] <zW> rob0: thanks, but my config syntax is correct that way?[18:00:22] <zW> I don't need to define two relay_domains = lines?[18:00:59] <rob0> if you did the second one overrides the first[18:01:07] <zW> Thanks[18:01:44] <rob0> note, I would recommend doing some SQL trickery to weasel them into a single query.[18:02:12] <zW> But the strange thing: postmap -q womibo.nl mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-relay_domains.cf matches[18:02:20] <zW> but postmap -q womibo.nl mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-relay_domains_mailprotect.cf mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-relay_domains_mailprotect.cf doesn't match[18:02:28] <zW> ow my bad :)[18:02:51] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[18:02:53] <rob0> postmap only does a single query, yes[18:03:47] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[18:04:01] <zW> Ok, so the strange thing is that I have relay_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/lookup1.cnf mysql:/etc/postfix/lookup2.cnf in my config file[18:04:08] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[18:04:17] <zW> The domain moeha.com is not in both of them[18:04:30] <zW> Still it accepts mail for it[18:04:40] <zW> Seems only for the .com part[18:05:11] <zW> I'm using '%s' in my query, that seems to do some special things[18:05:19] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:05:40] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[18:06:20] <zW> When I postmap -q moeha.com to both, it has no result[18:06:44] <rob0> so maybe that domain is in a different class[18:06:54] <rob0> !address_classes[18:06:54] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.[18:09:22] <zW> Weird, as it is a proxy box[18:09:36] <zW> Would it help if I paste my config somewhere online?[18:09:45] <rob0> !relevant_logs[18:09:46] <knoba> rob0: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[18:10:03] <rob0> show that mail being accepted[18:10:20] <zW> Yes.[18:10:31] <rob0> !showconfig[18:10:31] <knoba> rob0: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[18:10:42] <rob0> ^^ might not help but surely won't hurt[18:11:50] <sigise> rob0 +1 for cheating, especially if the source is reliable[18:12:32] <zW> https://pastebin.com/ciseLhvP[18:12:42] <rob0> sigise, FWIW, I agree, the documentation for that is not as straightforward as most features.[18:13:22] <zW> and https://pastebin.com/mM07uTpP[18:13:25] <sigise> *I* am not going anywhere near saying that to anyone. Especially on the mailing list. ;-)[18:13:58] <zW> rob0: those are my two configs. 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you do know that all of this information is readily available in the documentation the comes with postfix, right?[20:47:00] <section1> yeah[20:47:12] <section1> sorry[20:47:17] <section1> more fast[20:47:30] <lunaphyte> well, not really[20:47:41] <lunaphyte> you can even read that same documentation right on the postfix web site[20:48:00] <section1> yeah i was avoiding to open firefox. :D[20:49:22] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has joined #postfix[20:50:01] <section1> crazy stuff...i was trying to setup only 6 connections parallel to hotmail servers. if i put a 1s delay only i see one connection.[20:50:48] <section1> im getting a crazy deferred aat hotmail: "Recipients belong to multiple regions ATTR38" pff[20:54:48] <rob0> ask Microsoft[20:55:35] <rob0> (Yes, I am serious. And stop calling me Shirley!)[20:56:50] <section1> hehe yeah..[20:57:24] <section1> sure i don't get any reasonable answer..[20:57:48] <section1> at least its not a bounce :D[20:58:48] <rob0> You might be surprised. Their postmaster department is staffed and responsive.[20:59:48] <section1> oh nice..ok i will try to contact to see what call "regions"[21:00:47] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has joined #postfix[21:01:41] <section1> it looks like they use that as a "graylist"..[21:03:10] <section1> grey*[21:03:23] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:04:49] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:07:21] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC ()[21:09:24] <section1> o well tomorrow a new day :D byes.[21:09:32] *** section1 <section1!~section1@152.168.219.137> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:12:51] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:12:51] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the 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