February 20, 2018 
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<bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[08:41:11] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[08:45:57] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:09:13] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[09:09:56] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has joined #postfix[09:22:56] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:c591:2abf:7935:9947> has joined #postfix[09:25:10] *** ss942 <ss942!~krystian@router.dir.pl> has joined #postfix[09:28:07] <ss942> I have something like this in my master.cf:[09:28:07] <ss942> myscript unix - n n - - pipe[09:28:07] <ss942> flags=Rq user=myscript null_sender= argv=/var/myscript/igotmail.sh -f ${sender} -- ${recipient}[09:28:27] <ss942> it runs myscript and send sender and recipient to script[09:28:32] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:28:37] <ss942> but how do I chceck message and title?[09:29:59] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:30:18] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[09:43:21] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-16-73.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[09:59:25] <ss942> I head tried every variable from http://postfix.cs.utah.edu/pipe.8.html but these contains only information about message, but not it's body/title[10:01:50] <ss942> I had*[10:11:41] *** tuxick_ <tuxick_!~bluesmurf@pie.xs4all.nl> has left #postfix[10:12:25] *** tuxick <tuxick!~bluesmurf@pie.xs4all.nl> has joined #postfix[10:14:30] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@87.13.216.113> has joined #postfix[10:16:50] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:c591:2abf:7935:9947> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:39:54] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[10:42:07] *** cite <cite!~cite@physadeia.incertum.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:43:11] <ZWoz> ss942, How you use this myscript service, via content_filter parameter in smtp service?[10:43:29] *** cite <cite!~cite@physadeia.incertum.net> has joined #postfix[10:45:57] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:c591:2abf:7935:9947> has joined #postfix[10:48:49] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@195.114.241.70> has joined #postfix[10:51:57] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[11:57:28] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[12:00:14] <ss942> ZWoz: my mistake was to take just first line of input...[12:01:30] <ZWoz> Ok, good that you figured it out[12:06:06] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[12:07:16] *** beatzz <beatzz!~beatzz@240f:83:d77a:1:c591:2abf:7935:9947> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:23:53] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[12:42:07] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[12:46:43] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[13:03:14] *** section1 <section1!~section1@152.168.219.137> has joined #postfix[13:07:46] *** hexagoxel <hexagoxel!~hexagoxel@2a01:4f8:c0c:e::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:10:16] *** hexagoxel <hexagoxel!~hexagoxel@hexagoxel.de> has joined #postfix[13:11:08] *** ukleinek <ukleinek!~ukl@unaffiliated/ukleinek> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:11:16] *** ukleinek <ukleinek!~ukl@unaffiliated/ukleinek> has joined #postfix[13:15:02] *** hexagoxel <hexagoxel!~hexagoxel@hexagoxel.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[13:15:33] *** SpydarOO7 <SpydarOO7!spydar007@unaffiliated/spydar007> has quit IRC (Quit: Quit)[13:16:42] *** ukleinek <ukleinek!~ukl@unaffiliated/ukleinek> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:16:51] *** ukleinek <ukleinek!~ukl@unaffiliated/ukleinek> has joined #postfix[13:28:57] *** SpydarOO7 <SpydarOO7!~spydar007@unaffiliated/spydar007> has joined #postfix[13:31:02] *** ukleinek <ukleinek!~ukl@unaffiliated/ukleinek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:42:29] *** ukleinek <ukleinek!~ukl@unaffiliated/ukleinek> has joined #postfix[13:42:29] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@107.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[13:42:37] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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From IP's not in mynetworks, relay is allowed to any alias in my virtual alias maps.. how can i prevent this[15:25:21] <imfearless> in my recipient restrictions i'm rejecting anyone that's not auth'd and am permitting mynetworks[15:28:26] <imfearless> Below is what i'm describing:[15:28:31] <lunaphyte> well, for starters, mynetworks should be empty, and relaying should never ever be allowed based on source ip address period. use smtp auth[15:28:41] <lunaphyte> second, why would you want to do this anyway?[15:28:50] <imfearless> This is for a large mail server[15:28:52] <imfearless> for an ISP[15:28:56] <lunaphyte> so?[15:28:57] <imfearless> We allow internal relaying[15:29:01] <imfearless> from our systems[15:29:07] <lunaphyte> yes, of course. with proper smtp auth[15:29:10] <imfearless> No[15:29:12] <lunaphyte> yes[15:29:19] <imfearless> i'm saying we do not authenticate those machines[15:29:23] <lunaphyte> anyway, virtual_alias_maps is for the virtual alias address class[15:29:27] <patdk-lap> then your *doing it wrong*[15:29:38] <lunaphyte> yes, i know, and i'm saying that is irresponsible[15:29:41] <lunaphyte> anyway, moving on[15:29:42] <imfearless> these systems have been in place for 20 years[15:29:46] <imfearless> im just fixing them zz[15:29:50] <imfearless> but ill take that into mind[15:29:58] <imfearless> regardless.. here's what im experiencing rightn ow[15:30:11] <lunaphyte> postfix is behaving just like it's supposed to with virtual_alias_maps[15:30:13] <patdk-lap> a virtual_alias_map is a valid destination for ALL senders[15:30:17] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@74.85.159.242> has joined #postfix[15:30:21] <patdk-lap> it would break so many things to change that[15:30:22] <imfearless> even unauthenticated?[15:30:23] <lunaphyte> what exactly is it you want to change?[15:30:25] <patdk-lap> yes[15:30:32] <lunaphyte> unauthenticated has nothing to do with it[15:30:36] <patdk-lap> that is the whole point of it, unauthenticated[15:30:53] <patdk-lap> you put into it, sales@[15:30:59] <patdk-lap> you want EVERYONE to send to sales@[15:31:12] <patdk-lap> to change that, requires custom blacklisting[15:31:14] <lunaphyte> i think it would be best to describe the actual problem you're trying to solve[15:32:33] <imfearless> I'm just trying to prevent people from spamming mail to our users within our own mail system. If you telnet into the system on port 25, and do a mail from: whatever at whatever dot com, rcpt to: ANYTHING at mydomain dot com, it will accept.. if you rcpt to: something not in the virtual_alias_map it gives you relay access denied.. I pretty much want relay access always denied unless the IP is allowed in the mynetworks.. to my understanding that's a[15:32:33] <imfearless> perfectly normal postfix configurations[15:33:14] <patdk-lap> that isn't how you prevent spam[15:33:22] <patdk-lap> you prevent spam inside the same way you prevent it outside[15:33:29] <imfearless> but here's what im getting at[15:33:42] <patdk-lap> what your getting at is simple, you want a shortcut[15:33:46] <imfearless> on our systems today, WITHOUT virtual_alias_maps, this functionality works as i'm decribing[15:34:07] <patdk-lap> so you have an a b problem[15:34:10] <imfearless> you cannot send mail on the box to any of our @mydomain.com users, you get relay access denied unless your auth'd[15:34:22] <patdk-lap> you do relise what you just said?[15:34:27] <imfearless> indeed[15:34:37] <patdk-lap> nothing your doing is related and the problem isn't anything you described[15:34:56] <imfearless> you're a real cheery chump aren't ya[15:35:12] <patdk-lap> well, you said out existing system that doesn't use this vs the new system that does[15:35:14] <imfearless> i'm trying to block everyone from relay unless authenticated[15:35:21] <imfearless> RIGHT[15:35:21] <patdk-lap> well, since the issue you are talking about has nothing to do iwth that at all[15:35:26] <imfearless> but what im saying is the only thing that is different is virtual_alias_maps[15:35:28] <patdk-lap> you made a LOT MORE CHANGES than Just that[15:35:35] <imfearless> no, identical configuratoin[15:35:35] <patdk-lap> so your argument is completely invalid[15:35:51] <patdk-lap> oh? I don't see you followed directions yet[15:36:50] <lunaphyte> is this strictly for your various systems to submit email to for relaying?[15:39:24] <imfearless> No, this was a legacy mail cluster this company still has around. It serves about 5000 or so email customers. We use it for some of our legacy systems to relay mail through it so that it's spam filtered, etc..[15:39:32] <TyrfingMjolnir> imfearless: Rule number one; one mail server for inbound, one for outbound. It's possible to use several servers for each task.[15:39:50] <imfearless> Agreed. So best practice is to separate them?[15:39:58] <patdk-lap> for many reasons[15:40:04] <lunaphyte> yes, of course[15:40:10] <patdk-lap> first, so your users can filter and process email from other users[15:40:28] <patdk-lap> besides if you host customer domains[15:40:35] <lunaphyte> further, you should not be using the same email servers for your systems and for your customers. also a very very bad idea :([15:40:40] <patdk-lap> if they *randomly* repoint the mailserver for their domain and don't tell you[15:42:05] <imfearless> which they do zz[15:42:35] <imfearless> I've tried arguing with my boss to keep these separate (as they are today.. i'm working on combining them.. hes a f*cking windows guy)[15:42:48] <lunaphyte> wait, what?![15:42:52] <imfearless> yeah...[15:43:01] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix[15:43:02] <imfearless> We used an old NIS Ldap tree for authentication for these users[15:43:02] <lunaphyte> they are currently separate, and he wants to COMBINE them?![15:43:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8[15:43:10] <TyrfingMjolnir> Not sure why[15:43:18] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is this an old sample config?[15:43:21] <imfearless> he wants webmail, postfix, dovecot, and ldap authentication to run all on this cluster[15:43:46] <imfearless> Stupid[15:44:13] <patdk-lap> lxc can help there[15:44:17] <imfearless> Any good arguing points I can make? I know postfix decently well, but not extremely well.. any security hazards?[15:44:24] <imfearless> I considered moving this to docker containers[15:44:29] <imfearless> but LXC may be a good option[15:44:31] <patdk-lap> like it to isolate subsystems for upgrade reasons[15:44:52] <lunaphyte> um, what you've described just there sounds pretty reasonable[15:45:02] <lunaphyte> depending on what "cluster" actually means[15:45:07] <imfearless> 2 node cluster[15:45:13] <imfearless> just for redundancy and failover[15:45:28] <lunaphyte> that's just for customers though[15:45:29] <imfearless> so 2 nodes running identical configurations, NFS storage, and sitting behind keepalived for load balancing[15:45:30] <lunaphyte> right?[15:45:35] <TyrfingMjolnir> imfearless: Start off with this idea; one mailserver for inbound, and a separate one for outbound[15:45:42] <imfearless> primarily.. our systems still use this as a relay outbound[15:45:59] <rob0> TyrfingMjolnir, if you have separated your MSA system[s] from your MTA system[s], it's simple to have the MSA only accept AUTH users, regardless of recipient domain.[15:46:04] <TyrfingMjolnir> Should be separate servers[15:46:13] *** watermark <watermark!~watermark@50-206-253-58-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:46:24] <TyrfingMjolnir> I only have inbound[15:46:34] <TyrfingMjolnir> outbound runs through ISP[15:46:41] <imfearless> Today the inbound servers live on Qmail, and outbound runs on Postfix[15:46:51] <imfearless> I'm getting this company off this old garbage qmail to postfix[15:47:10] <rob0> TyrfingMjolnir, you'll have to describe your problem better.[15:48:37] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[15:49:00] <TyrfingMjolnir> My mail queue is full of email for <<randomDictionaryWord>> at mydomain dot tld[15:50:19] <rob0> oh, maybe you're saying that recipient validation didn't happen?[15:50:40] <rob0> and you're sending backscatter spam from this?[15:51:19] *** Repox <Repox!~textual@85.203.137.15> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question. also see !logs.[17:44:24] <rob0> fix that first[17:44:35] *** Marc3l <Marc3l!~Marc3l@unaffiliated/marc3l> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:45:20] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[17:50:06] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:52:11] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix[17:57:55] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[18:02:50] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[18:03:18] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-250-209.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[18:05:13] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[18:05:48] *** ek <ek!ek@freebsd/contributor/ek> has quit IRC (Quit: Brb.)[18:05:57] *** alnx <alnx!b7527691@gateway/web/freenode/ip.183.82.118.145> has joined #postfix[18:06:40] *** ek <ek!ek@freebsd/contributor/ek> has joined #postfix[18:07:36] *** Marc3l <Marc3l!~Marc3l@unaffiliated/marc3l> has joined #postfix[18:08:07] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:08:42] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[18:11:05] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:11:05] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[18:34:11] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10::719e:e3e1> has joined #postfix[18:37:33] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[18:38:55] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[18:42:21] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #postfix[18:42:28] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:42:44] *** Jams_ <Jams_!~Mutter@110.54.228.227> has joined #postfix[18:42:48] <alnx> hi, is it possible to hold mail injected via postdrop? what headers should i use as regex in header_checks?[18:43:49] <patdk-lap> sure, just comment out postdrop from master.cf[18:44:22] <rob0> or maybe if pickup(8) isn't running ...[18:45:22] <alnx> do we able to differentiate mails from postdrop and smtpd in the hold queue?[18:45:29] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:45:45] <patdk-lap> no[18:45:49] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[18:45:52] <patdk-lap> cause they aren't different, they are just mail[18:46:23] <rob0> makes me wonder, what is the actual problem and goal? You could substitute something for /usr/sbin/sendmail ?[18:47:15] <patdk-lap> I just don't wonder anymore[18:47:34] <alnx> :)[18:48:00] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Quit: telnet irc.freenode.net 6667)[18:48:37] <rob0> if there is a compromised process submitting mail via sendmail, that could be a huge problem[18:49:51] <alnx> no, there aren't any such processes[18:50:45] <alnx> my postfix has rules in header_checks to hold some mail[18:51:26] <alnx> and if postdrop aslo copies to hold queue, m would like to segregate them[18:51:38] <alnx> i*[19:01:12] *** Jams_ <Jams_!~Mutter@110.54.228.227> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[19:03:13] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.228.227> has joined #postfix[19:04:21] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[19:09:20] *** bolt <bolt!~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[19:09:24] <patdk-lap> postfix only has one queue[19:09:32] <patdk-lap> and that queue is split into states[19:09:40] <patdk-lap> incoming/ active/ hold/ ...[19:09:53] <patdk-lap> if you want to segregate them, you need different postfix instances[19:10:36] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@110.54.228.227> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[19:12:07] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: cemotyz09)[19:12:35] <alnx> i have commented pickup in master.cf and restarted postfix[19:12:54] <alnx> now mail from postdrop just sitting in maildrop queue[19:13:18] <alnx> this is close to what i'm looking for[19:14:16] <alnx> i just dont care about locally submitted mail, i will set a postsuper cron to clean maildrop queue[19:15:37] <alnx> thank you patdk-lap and rob0[19:15:46] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[19:18:02] *** cemotyz09 <cemotyz09!~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[19:19:50] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[19:24:52] <alnx> one more - :)[19:27:13] <alnx> if i run second postfix instance, to which instance postdrop will save the mail (sorry for my dumb questions)[19:27:47] <alnx> or is it like 2 instances share the same queue system?[19:30:59] <alnx> even if i specify different queue_directory, postdrop will write to default /var/spool/postfix/maildrop ?[19:40:29] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:44:01] <rob0> I bet that is covered in[19:44:05] <rob0> !multiple[19:44:05] <knoba> rob0: "multiple" : Multiple instance management support in Postfix 2.6+: http://www.postfix.org/MULTI_INSTANCE_README.html[19:49:29] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-250-209.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:50:41] *** danjel <danjel!~danjel@85.83.142.134> has joined #postfix[19:56:36] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[19:56:37] *** cpama <cpama!~julee@208.74.142.32> has joined #postfix[19:57:01] <cpama> !welcome[19:57:02] <knoba> cpama: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![19:59:07] <cpama> hi all. after i make chnages to aliases-regexp file, i run postmap on it... and then do i have to reload postfix? same question for changes to aliases file. I see from the manual (http://www.postfix.org/aliases.5.html_) that I have to run newaliases command. but since there's no reference to reload or restart, can I assume changes take place immediately?[19:59:42] <cpama> I'm looking at the "Synopsis" section of the manual for direction on what to run after I change the files[20:01:27] *** danjel <danjel!~danjel@85.83.142.134> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:07:00] <cpm> newalises re-hashes the aliases file, if you have aliases configured, postfix will check the hash. So, yes, changes are immediate.[20:10:33] <Zerberus> cpama: you do not postmap a regex file[20:15:31] <cpama> Zerberus, ok.[20:15:35] <cpama> but is my approach right?[20:15:45] <cpama> aka use the docs and check out the "Synopsis" section[20:15:58] <cpama> for what needs to be run after editing a given file?[20:16:15] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[20:16:35] <Zerberus> cpama: if you use a hashed map there is no need to reload or even restart postfix[20:29:03] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[20:29:21] *** Repox <Repox!~textual@85.203.137.15> has joined #postfix[20:29:22] *** Repox <Repox!~textual@85.203.137.15> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:41:40] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[20:52:33] *** ArturShaik <ArturShaik!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:58:42] *** cpm 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