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[01:55:44] <TyrfingMjolnir> I have an issue: 452 4.3.1 Insufficient system storage (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
[01:56:39] <TyrfingMjolnir> warning: not enough free space in mail queue: 884744192 bytes < 1.5*message size limit
[01:56:58] <TyrfingMjolnir> I have like 225GB free
[02:00:48] <pj> according to that message you have 884MB free
[02:01:10] <pj> pastebin output of: df -h
[02:02:22] <pj> also do this, please...
[02:02:27] <pj> !getting_help
[02:02:27] <knoba> pj: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
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[06:08:36] <jeromelanteri> hi, how to force password ciphered authentication login ?
[06:09:07] <Reinhilde> i i i i i i i?
[06:09:17] <jeromelanteri> sorry ?
[06:10:33] <Reinhilde> english please
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[06:35:02] <Zerberus> !sasl
[06:35:02]
<knoba> Zerberus: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
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[11:52:08] <linex> Within my mail server ( within the same domain), I want to block sender at example dot com to receiver at example dot com specifically. How do I do it ?
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[12:54:38] <jeromelanteri> Reinhilde, what is the problem ?
[12:56:20] <jeromelanteri> Reinhilde, i was writing in english, but maybe not perfectly, that is your problem ? well... you can just help english people who write perfect english then. Sorry to read that. i'm going to ignore you, and you have to ignore me please.
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[13:27:41] <TyrfingMjolnir> pj: There is like 884MB free on the root volume
[13:29:37] <TyrfingMjolnir> /var/spool/postfix/ may be the place that needs more space?
[13:29:57] <TyrfingMjolnir> How to change path for /var/spool/postfix?
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[13:32:23] <TyrfingMjolnir> !relevant_logs
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<knoba> TyrfingMjolnir: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging
[13:32:35] <TyrfingMjolnir> !showconfig
[13:32:35] <knoba> TyrfingMjolnir: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
[13:33:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> !showconfig_old
[13:33:31] <knoba> TyrfingMjolnir: "showconfig_old" : for versions of postfix < 2.9, pastebin postconf -n and the contents of master.cf with comments removed
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[15:05:48] <alnx> hi
[15:07:28] <alnx> i have a message file (email in file) and attachment as another file, store on local home directory. how to send the mail with attachment from cli using postfix
[15:08:11] <alnx> my postfix version is postfix-2.6.6-8.el6.x86_64, centos 6.9 server
[15:09:12] <alnx> i have looked at "man sendmail.postfix" but it do not contain info of what im looking for
[15:12:25] <alnx> is there any way to inject email file with attachment in to postfix delivery?
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[15:14:40] <alnx> is there any way to inject email file with attachment in to postfix delivery?
[15:15:15] <lunaphyte> i would use something like mutt
[15:16:11] <Kelsar> or nailx
[15:16:27] <Kelsar> basically something providing the mail command
[15:16:41] <lunaphyte> right
[15:16:42] <rob0> Note also, this question is about "How do I use email?" and not exclusive to Postfix, so that's why your searches have not helped you.
[15:16:49] <rob0> !mail
[15:16:49] <lunaphyte> in other words, not a postfix question, at all
[15:16:49] <knoba> rob0: "mail" : mail(1) (also known as mailx(1) or bsd-mailx) is not a Postfix-provided command. For help with it, see its man page. More powerful, commonly available console- and CLI-based MUAs include mutt, alpine and heirloom mailx (likewise, not supported here.)
[15:16:58] <rob0> !mutt
[15:16:58]
<knoba> rob0: "mutt" : a nifty console-based email client. URL: http://www.mutt.org/ Motto: All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less.
[15:22:04] <alnx> sorry for my ignorance, but if is use mutt to inject email file, will the recipient see the sender as the one inside the email or who injected email?
[15:22:47] <rob0> you can configure a sender address in mutt
[15:23:12] <rob0> you might also be interested in:
[15:23:24] <rob0> !whatis nullclient 1
[15:23:24] <knoba> rob0: a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.
[15:23:34] <rob0> !nullclient_software
[15:23:34] <knoba> rob0: "nullclient_software" : a program that serves as a drop in replacement for /usr/sbin/sendmail and provides a simple means to submit messages to an existing msa without the need to install and maintain a full-blown mta/msa. examples include msmtp, esmtp, ssmtp and nullmailer. also see !msa
[15:26:13] <alnx> ok, thanks for the info. I guess i need to do some more homework :)
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[15:53:01] * jaybe posts rob0's fix
[15:53:55] <cpm> he's pretty squared away now, thanks for the help
[15:54:01] * cpm hi5s jaybe
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[17:17:45] <emaia> hi all
[17:18:02] <emaia> what is the best away to do a full debug on the Postfix ?
[17:18:07] <emaia> thnsk in advance :)
[17:18:49] <tuxick> it has no bugs!
[17:21:10] <emaia> configurations mistakes :=)
[17:21:21] <tuxick> the log(s)
[17:22:32] <emaia> log with full ldap queries?
[17:22:50] <tuxick> oh you didn't say ldap
[17:23:11] <rob0> !postmapq
[17:23:11] <knoba> rob0: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf you may check this mapping by running postmap -q example.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf and see if it works.
[17:23:30] <tuxick> if that's openldap you can have great fun with its logs
[17:23:41] <tuxick> they're even worse than samba
[17:23:42] <rob0> I think that also takes a -v
[17:24:01] <rob0> !ldap_table
[17:24:01] <knoba> rob0: Error: "ldap_table" is not a valid command.
[17:24:08] <rob0> !ldap
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[17:28:02] <emaia> i have a scenario with virtual domains, LDAP and user on Postgres Database. The problem: when i configured mailForwardingAddress, the user doesn't receive the email, but the forwarder receives :O
[17:29:51] <tuxick> huh?
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[17:30:25] <tuxick> hopefully you're not trying to forward to external domains
[17:31:28] <tuxick> but no idea what 'user' and 'forwarder' are in this context
[17:31:40] <rob0> Usually it would be LDAP *or* SQL, not LDAP *and* SQL, so you have confused us.
[17:31:46] <tuxick> i can parse is so that it does exactly as intended
[17:31:56] <tuxick> that too
[17:32:09] <rob0> At this point perhps you should read the /topic and make a pastebin
[17:34:37] <emaia> i forward to external and internal domains
[17:34:52] <emaia> is a demo scenario yet :)
[17:34:58] <emaia> migration from ol Qmail
[17:36:13] <tuxick> but why on earth ldap + sql ?
[17:36:55] <thumbs> to make things as complicated as possible, naturally.
[17:37:01] <tuxick> ah ok
[17:37:04] <tuxick> makes sense
[17:37:50] <emaia> normal users on ldap. Applications user on SQL
[17:38:13] <tuxick> hm
[17:39:47] <rob0> so Postfix is going to deliver to some system users (local(8) domains on LDAP) and to some virtual(8) users on pgsql?
[17:40:15] <tuxick> i bet it's more complicated than that
[17:40:36] <tuxick> but ok, that's legacy for you :)
[17:40:44] <rob0> at this point perhaps you should review this so you will know better what I am saying,
[17:40:50] <rob0> !address_classes
[17:40:54] * lunaphyte wonders what "Applications user" is
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<emaia> when i define some virtual_alias_maps with LDAP queries, the order is important? can i have one for alias, other for forwards, other for vacation ? like this: https://pastebin.com/zgAWgAjU
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[18:11:56] <rob0> Order does matter, yes. The lookups made are documented in virtual(5). Comment: ugh.
[18:28:52] <emaia> rob0: and the result_attribute ? i need to have the "mail" field always ?
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[18:31:11] <emaia> the postfix ignore the forwards...
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[18:47:50] <patdk-lap> hmm, all that is working as expected
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[18:49:21] <patdk-lap> the first match wins in the list
[18:49:37] <patdk-lap> maybe the term forward is confusing you
[18:49:43] <patdk-lap> cause it is not a forward, it is an alias
[18:49:50] <patdk-lap> virtual_*ALIAS*_map
[18:49:58] <patdk-lap> you changed the old address to the new address
[18:50:11] <patdk-lap> why should it still deliever to the old address, when you changed it?
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[19:16:05] <emaia> patdk-lap: thks. example for forward: i receive an email emaia at mydomin dot com, and the Postfix, should forward it for my boss: boss at mydomain dot com, or other example, for emaia at gmail dot com
[19:19:34] <patdk-lap> well, first, postfix doesn't know what a forward is, it's an alias
[19:19:40] <patdk-lap> what exactly do you want to do?
[19:20:36] <patdk-lap> !tell emaia example
[19:20:36] <knoba> emaia: "example" : Example.TLD has been reserved for examples in generic top-level domains (com,net,org) and many other TLDs. Please do not use real Internet names as examples.
[19:22:48] <rob0> !mantras
[19:22:48] <knoba> rob0: "mantras" : 1. do not accept mail that you do not intend to deliver. 2. do not drop mail. 3. do not use wildcards or catchalls. 4. do not forward mail to outside/third party systems
[19:24:46] <emaia> patdk-lap: the example is not real!!
[19:25:10] <patdk-lap> yes it is
[19:25:15] <patdk-lap> someone owns mydomain.com
[19:25:28] <patdk-lap> do not say it's NOT real, just cause YOU DO NOT OWN IT
[19:25:35] <emaia> patdk-lap: ok... sorry
[19:26:03] <patdk-lap> you have no idea how many ddoes attacks I have had from that crap
[19:26:09] <patdk-lap> ddos
[19:26:46] <emaia> patdk-lap: i believe that are a lot of ddos attacks
[19:27:30] <patdk-lap> expecially when people at facebook, or hulu take an example, that has your domain in it (cause the person that made the example did the same and used my domain, cause it was better than example.tld), and suddenly I get 10's of gigabits of traffic
[19:28:36] <patdk-lap> still gett millions of email attempts per day, but atleast those are easier to block somewhat
[19:30:34] <emaia> patdk-lap: i understand. i don't will refer real domain anymoe
[19:36:22] <patdk-lap> yes, but what are you attempting to do?
[19:38:08] <emaia> i'm trying the search on the virtual_alias_maps: vacation.cf, aliases.cf, maillist.cf and i want match all
[19:38:14] <pj> !tell TyrfingMjolnir queue_directory
[19:38:14] <knoba> TyrfingMjolnir: "queue_directory" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The location of the Postfix top-level queue directory. This is the root directory of Postfix daemon processes that run chrooted.
[19:38:32] <patdk-lap> that isn't how postfix works
[19:38:40] <patdk-lap> it will find the first match in the first entry
[19:38:42] <patdk-lap> and that is all
[19:38:46] <patdk-lap> there is no way to change that
[19:38:52] <patdk-lap> you need to return ALL results at once
[19:41:58] <emaia> it's possible to have a "secondary" virtual_alias_maps ?
[19:42:16] <patdk-lap> no
[19:43:06] <patdk-lap> I could say you have two options
[19:43:17] <patdk-lap> make a single ldap lookup that search all the fields
[19:43:32] <patdk-lap> or make a script that searchs all of your lists, and merges them into a single list that postfix uses
[19:45:05] <pj> emaia: look at a unionmap
[19:45:12] <pj> !tell emaia database
[19:45:25] <pj> !unionmap
[19:45:25] <knoba> pj: Error: "unionmap" is not a valid command.
[19:45:38] <pj> no factoid for it, but I think it may be exactly what you want.
[19:46:19] <pj> patdk-lap: also, fyi ^^^^^
[19:47:00] <emaia> and how postfix use all fields : mail,mailForwardingAddress, uid, gid, mailAlternateAddress, etc at the same time?
[19:49:25] <pj> emaia: it does not.
[19:51:43] <rob0> that depends on you to construct the query
[19:55:52] <patdk-lap> hmm, unionmap must be newish
[19:55:58] <patdk-lap> or you mean a database union command?
[19:56:40] <patdk-lap> note he is using ldap and not sql, so sql unions make no sense and that still requires joining all the maps into a single sql statement
[19:57:17] <patdk-lap> hmm, where is the document for unionmap though?
[19:58:14] <patdk-lap> ah, postfix 3.0+ required for union map
[19:58:23] <patdk-lap> I only have 3 systems with >2.11
[19:58:29] <emaia> the question: how i "merge" mail,mailForwardingAddress and result_filter = %u at autoreply dot example.TLD,%s ?
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[19:59:02] <patdk-lap> emaia, unionmap looks to be your only solution
[19:59:09] <patdk-lap> hope your using postfix >=3.0
[19:59:57] <emaia> patdk-lap: no... i have 2.11.2
[20:00:10] <patdk-lap> then your stuck with my method, or upgrading
[20:00:53] <emaia> i will try your method with a single ldap query
[20:01:34] <emaia> about the script, how it's possible to implement it on Postfix ? how i invoque it on main.cf?
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[20:05:10] <patdk-lap> you don't
[20:05:18] <patdk-lap> it will be completely seperate
[20:05:24] <patdk-lap> personally I use a Makefile to do mine
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[20:05:31] <patdk-lap> and run it whenever I need to via cron
[20:05:36] <patdk-lap> or just every 5min or so
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[20:10:38] <emaia> so, you create a file like hash:/etc/postfix/mylists.cf ??
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[20:17:38] <patdk-lap> for me? no, I normally create a hash map
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[20:18:19] <patdk-lap> normally two reasons I do it, the highest is, to locally cache data, incase of a database outage, or network issue
[20:18:37] <patdk-lap> for the blacklists, I do it for other reasons
[20:37:11] <rob0> apparently that IS a hash: map
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[22:02:06] <patdk-lap> oh, heh, he named his hash .cf :) confusing like hell
[22:04:45] <rob0> yes, I don't care for that as a naming convention for map files
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[22:09:23] <patdk-lap> I just make a folder called maps and put them all in there
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[22:09:32] <patdk-lap> and make another folder for sql and another for regex
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[22:38:02] <linex> Within my mail server ( within the same domain), I want to block sender at example dot com from sending to receiver at example dot com only. All the examples I see is to either block sender at example dot com from sending out in general or for receiver at example dot com from receiving in general.
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[22:40:54] <thumbs> linex: why do you want to do this?
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[22:43:12] <rob0> !restriction_classes
[22:43:12] <knoba> rob0: "restriction_classes" : see !restriction_class
[22:43:17] <rob0> !restriction_class
[22:43:28] <linex> Well there is this person, she does not want to even any email from another person to go to her mailbox. I know she can filter it but she was hoping if we can do on the backend.
[22:44:04] <rob0> heh, I would not provide that kind of service, even for myself
[22:44:15] <linex> I know ..
[22:44:51] <linex> but I m curious, is it possible ?
[22:45:07] <rob0> I answered already?
[22:45:32] <linex> I do filtering from external domains to my domain with mailscanner from another machine
[22:45:57] <linex> oh yes .. ok thanks
[22:46:53] <linex> its the per user thingy I need
[22:50:18] <rob0> then I do not understand.
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[22:51:02] <linex> I want to stop a at example dot com to send to b at example dot com. Thats all.
[22:51:41] <linex> a at example dot com can do whatever else.
[22:51:43] <rob0> you want a restriction class
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[22:52:49] <linex> smtpd_restriction_classes
[22:52:52] <linex> I see
[22:53:08] <rob0> check_sender_access, for a at example dot com, a check_recipient_access lookup, for b at example dot com reject (or discard, or hold, or whatever you decide)
[22:53:26] <rob0> so yes, that is the document you need
[22:55:46] <linex> yes I see it now. This is new.
[22:58:42] <rob0> In geology terms, yes, very new. In computer terms it was 49 forevers ago, something in excess of 15 years I think.
[22:58:53] <rob0> :)
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[23:08:28] <patdk-lap> heh, we solved that a long time ago due to other issues
[23:08:45] <patdk-lap> use a seperate msa from your mx mta
[23:09:03] <patdk-lap> then all email is coming in externally, and get the same rules applied
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[23:23:40] <quantum> I have an email alias at my alumni association which forwards email to my regular address. This works fine and I don't have anything special in dovecot's /etc/dovecot/passwd.db.
[23:24:08] <quantum> I do have the additional identity defined in Thunderbird, and email comes in as my alumni association account.
[23:25:07] <quantum> BUT I can not send any email as my alumni association account. It pops up an eror window: "
[23:25:44] <quantum> An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:
[23:25:45] <quantum> 5.7.1 <bill at alumni dot osu.edu>: Sender address rejected: not owned by user cook at quantum-eq dot com.
[23:26:19] <rob0> you set up a non-default restriction, reject_sender_login_mismatch
[23:26:43] <quantum> I tried setting up the equivalency in /etc/postfix/virtual as so:
[23:26:48] <rob0> if you don't need that, don't use it
[23:27:06] <quantum> bill at alumni dot osu.edu cook at quantum-eq dot com
[23:27:16] <quantum> Wouldn't that help?
[23:27:56] <rob0> nope
[23:27:58] <quantum> Seems like I'd want to keep as much security as possible.
[23:28:08] <rob0> !smtpd_sender_login_maps
[23:28:08] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_sender_login_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup table with the SASL login names that own sender (MAIL FROM) addresses.
[23:29:27] <lunaphyte> are these the same system? or is the alumni email server some other server?
[23:31:17] <quantum> Alumni association gets emails to my alias, then forwards them to my server.
[23:31:41] <quantum> I get them as my alias, and I used to be able to send as my alias, back when I used cPanel.
[23:32:17] <rob0> did cpanel use the restriction and smtpd_sender_login_maps?
[23:32:22] <quantum> "smtpd_sender_login_maps" sounds right. Mine maps to $virtual_mailbox_maps
[23:32:22] <quantum>
[23:32:56] <quantum> Idk. I just added that email, if I remember correctly, but that was 5 years ago.
[23:33:52] <quantum> Uh oh, ain't got no /etc/postfix/virtual_mailbox_maps
[23:34:11] <quantum> ... and I can't understand the postfix description of it...
[23:35:50] <quantum> Maybe just a flat file with bill at alumni dot osu.edu cook at quantum-eq dot com
[23:36:14] <quantum> ... them postmap virtual_mailbox_maps?
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[23:38:10] <quantum> Nah, doesn't work.
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[23:38:31] <quantum> "Sender address rejected: not owned by user "
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[23:47:17] <quantum> Right, so the offending line is smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_unknown_sender_domain,
[23:47:17] <quantum> reject_sender_login_mismatch
[23:49:08] <quantum> There's got to be a way to override that, but my guess at smtpd_sender_login_maps=$virtual_mailbox_maps failed.
[23:49:16] <jimpop> does smtpd_milters apply to Submission?
[23:50:07] <jimpop> i.e. can i hook clamav scanning into all SASL connecting clients?
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