February 14, 2018 
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moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:11:32] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:11:56] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:13:13] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:13:42] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:14:53] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:15:19] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:16:31] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:16:57] <zapotah> pj: i managed it ultimately by messing with amavis configuration and making a second listener that signs at the very end of the filter chain and stripping out the localhost Received: headers before it and after amavis delivers the signed message back for dispatch[06:17:00] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:17:57] <zapotah> that way there isnt any knowledge of the internal routings of the message before signing in the message and dkim works fine even if the message body gets mangled somewhere in the process[06:18:12] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:18:40] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:19:42] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:20:09] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:21:12] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:21:40] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:22:47] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:23:15] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:24:18] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:24:33] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@126-229-201-46.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[06:24:44] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has joined #postfix[06:25:52] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[06:26:19] *** 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<zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[08:08:57] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:33:53] <TheFatherMind> This seems to be a tool to do what I need. http://www.ducea.com/2006/11/25/cleanup-maildir-folders-archive-delete-old-mails/[08:38:10] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has joined #postfix[08:41:09] *** Marc3l <Marc3l!~Marc3l@unaffiliated/marc3l> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[08:48:03] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[08:48:15] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10::719e:e3e1> has joined #postfix[08:53:14] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[08:55:46] *** chachasmooth_ <chachasmooth_!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[08:56:33] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:58:28] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[08:58:33] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10::719e:e3e1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:08:27] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:09:20] *** Marc3l <Marc3l!~Marc3l@unaffiliated/marc3l> has joined #postfix[09:09:31] *** chowbok <chowbok!~chowbok@207.181.255.76> has joined #postfix[09:23:42] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:35:41] *** lunaphyte <lunaphyte!~lunaphyte@unaffiliated/lunaphyte> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:36:20] *** lunaphyte <lunaphyte!~lunaphyte@unaffiliated/lunaphyte> has joined #postfix[09:47:42] <survietamine> TheFatherMind: that would depends on what your imap server is[09:47:43] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@75.188.11.166> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:47:57] <survietamine> and that is very old code[09:48:19] <survietamine> with dovecot, I won't do that moving files outside the scope of the dovecot server[09:49:00] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[09:53:19] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[09:59:29] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@one.ttg.ovh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:08:45] *** moe_ <moe_!~moe@197.241.12.243> has joined #postfix[10:11:43] *** sklv1 <sklv1!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:12:22] *** sklv1 <sklv1!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[10:19:41] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:20:49] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[10:35:59] *** spaceone <spaceone!~spaceone@wc1.wechall.net> has left #postfix ("WeeChat 1.9.1")[10:42:19] *** evilt0ne_ <evilt0ne_!~bar@xdsl-85-197-1-146.netcologne.de> has joined 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the host is there ofc[21:49:56] <zapotah> but id like for tge daemon to not tell its postfix or that its on ubuntu[21:50:09] <zapotah> the daemon*[21:50:21] <rob0> !smtpd_banner[21:50:21] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_banner" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The text that follows the 220 status code in the SMTP greeting banner. Some people like to see the mail version advertised. By default, Postfix shows no version.[21:51:15] <rob0> It's a non-problem. Anyone who knows about MTAs can identify the software anyway.[21:51:33] <rob0> and spammers don't know nor care[21:51:49] <zapotah> rob0: cheers, wasnt exactly 100% what the first message was called[21:52:10] <zapotah> rob0: yeah, nit really a security feature[21:52:14] <zapotah> not*[21:52:34] <zapotah> ill just put something witty there :3[21:53:03] <rob0> well, the default covers some mandated items[21:53:34] <rob0> ESMTP is mandated, the hostname also[21:53:42] <zapotah> yeah, ofc[21:53:50] <zapotah> just what follows[21:54:30] *** Aro2220 <Aro2220!~Aro2220@unaffiliated/aro2220> has joined #postfix[22:04:58] *** danjel_ <danjel_!~danjel@85.83.142.134> has joined #postfix[22:13:32] *** juirc <juirc!~juirc@dialin-ip-24-064.ilmenau.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:15:59] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:23:43] <Aro2220> Can I install Postfix on a VPS and set up SMTP relay so my home network (with a mail server) can relay mail through that SMTP relay so I can filter out my home IP address from my messages?[22:24:12] <Aro2220> and also so my domain can set up an SPF record for that VPS instead of for my home IP?[22:24:58] <rob0> 1. sure, why not? Just use a VPN to the VPS, and you'll see the VPN address in your Received: header.[22:25:19] <rob0> 2. huh?[22:25:38] <Aro2220> Sorry I'm still trying to get my head around this stuff so my questions are about as unclear as my understanding.[22:25:47] <Aro2220> 1. Can I do this without using a VPN into my VPS?[22:26:17] <Aro2220> Could I just set up an SMTP server on an Ubuntu VPS and tell it to change last external IP to itself?[22:26:23] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:27:19] <rob0> Postfix (really, any MTA/MSA software) puts in Received: headers with the address from which it was received. While those can be stripped out, it's usually not a good idea to do that.[22:27:58] <Aro2220> Well instead of stripping them out can I just modify them? So let's say I am sitting at IP 1.2.3.4 and I install an SMTP server (whichever kind) on my VPS which has ip 10.20.30.40[22:28:09] <Aro2220> I want it to change the external IP header from 1.2.3.4 to 10.20.30.40[22:28:21] <Aro2220> so it's still there...[22:30:37] <tuxick> why?[22:30:52] <Aro2220> Because I don't want everyone I email to have the IP address of my home network[22:30:58] <rob0> !header_checks[22:30:58] <knoba> rob0: "header_checks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables for content inspection of primary non-MIME message headers, as specified in the header_checks(5) manual page.[22:31:09] <rob0> yes, the VPN was still the better idea[22:31:53] <rob0> openvpn in static key (p2p) mode, very simple[22:32:14] <Aro2220> I thought it was very complicated. Can that work with something like Thunderbird mail?[22:32:33] <Aro2220> Or do I need to log into the VPN with an OpenVPN client on whichever computer I use first...[22:32:40] <rob0> you give a MUA an IP address to connect to[22:33:02] <rob0> it can't tell if that's a "real" address or a VPN address[22:33:38] <Aro2220> I already run a VPN. Would this mean I need to then connect to a second VPN when I wanted to send email?[22:33:47] <Aro2220> Or could mail clients like Thunderbird do this internally?[22:33:56] <Aro2220> ie: will i need to have two instances of OpenVPN running?[22:35:58] <rob0> if you're already using a VPN, is it redirecting the gateway already, and what IP address is it that you're trying to hide?[22:36:46] <Aro2220> The problem is that I am using a commercial VPN for privacy etc. The IP address is shared by a bunch of people, I believe, and some of them have gotten the IP thrown on some site that email services check for spam or something.[22:36:54] <Aro2220> So basically, when it comes from this IP address I have issues.[22:37:11] <Aro2220> I ran into this problem when I was trying to get Microsoft to host my email address.[22:38:16] <Aro2220> I was able to get it working by using putty to ssh tunnel into my VPS and then sending email through some ip address I specified that got routed etc[22:38:44] <Aro2220> Other than having the window up all the time, the real problem was that I also have a mobile phone running Android where I don't know how to get that working on...and laptops running Linux....[22:39:39] <Aro2220> So I am trying to make this as simple as possible for me and basically do all the complicated stuff on the server instead of on every client.[22:42:48] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-16-73.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:44:27] *** BitBandit <BitBandit!~BitBandit@50-198-187-221-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:51:13] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC ()[22:58:25] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:01:49] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:09:03] *** pti-jean <pti-jean!~quassel@127.35.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[23:09:05] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@148.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:10:58] *** Aro2220x <Aro2220x!~Aro2220@104.254.90.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org> has joined #postfix[23:14:40] *** Aro2220 <Aro2220!~Aro2220@unaffiliated/aro2220> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:15:05] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@95.233.165.118> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:17:16] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@95.233.165.118> has joined #postfix[23:17:34] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:20:20] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[23:20:42] *** roblabla <roblabla!~roblablar@roblab.la> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:36:57] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10::719e:e3e1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:38:12] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[23:50:07] *** kingkong <kingkong!antalya@shellium/member/kingkong> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:50:49] *** kingkong <kingkong!antalya@chatq.net> has joined #postfix[23:50:50] *** kingkong <kingkong!antalya@chatq.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:50:50] *** kingkong <kingkong!antalya@shellium/member/kingkong> has joined #postfix[23:52:15] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:58:04] *** Aro2220x <Aro2220x!~Aro2220@104.254.90.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org> has quit IRC (Quit: Aro2220x)[23:59:27] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has joined #postfix