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[10:54:55] <[twisti]> i cant for the life of me get my postfix to honour my virtual mappings
[10:56:11] <[twisti]> in main.cf is have "virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual", in /etc/postfix/virtual i have "noreply at mydomain dot com devnull@localhost" and in /etc/aliases i have "devnull /dev/null". i have run postmap on /etc/postfix/virtual and have restartet postfix
[10:56:42] <[twisti]> any hints on why it would still forward those to my default user ?
[10:57:02] <petn-randall> !getting_help
[10:57:02] <knoba> petn-randall: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
[10:57:15] <[twisti]> !relevant_logs
[10:57:15] <knoba> [twisti]: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging
[10:57:15] <petn-randall> [twisti]: ^^^
[10:57:18] <[twisti]> !showconfig
[10:57:18] <knoba> [twisti]: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
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[11:02:36] <[twisti]> https://hastebin.com/ikotujizaf.nginx there you go
[11:03:58] <[twisti]> (syslog is an exact copy of mail.log)
[11:07:12] <petn-randall> [twisti]: From what I can see it's doing exactly what you want, or not?
[11:07:26] <petn-randall> I can't see anything in the logs that says it getting sent to your default user.
[11:09:18] <[twisti]> me neither, but i do get the mails
[11:11:11] <[twisti]> come to think of it, im not sure WHY i get any mails at all
[11:12:46] <[twisti]> is there something other than postfix that i should be looking at thats part of the mail process ? it seems like SOMETHING is sending all mails to my gmail, and i thought it was postfix, but from the config i cant see anything that would be responsible for that
[11:15:37] <petn-randall> [twisti]: Why are you using this convoluted way of dropping mails, btw? You can much more easily do this via check_recipient_access.
[11:16:34] <[twisti]> petn-randall: i googled how to delete mails for a specific recipient with postfix, and that solution came up in the top 3 or so results for me
[11:16:42] <petn-randall> !tutorials
[11:16:42] <knoba> petn-randall: Error: "tutorials" is not a valid command.
[11:16:43] <petn-randall> !tutorial
[11:16:43] <knoba> petn-randall: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
[11:17:07] <petn-randall> !check_recipient_access
[11:17:07] <knoba> petn-randall: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
[11:19:04] <[twisti]> that + discard seems to be a more proper solution, i agree
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[11:24:28] <[twisti]> the new configuration worked (according to the logs), but the mail was still sent to my gmail. i dont understand what is causing that :|
[11:38:56] <[twisti]> interesting, mails to another account dont get forwarded, but mails to noreply do
[11:43:46] <[twisti]> oh geez, i think it was gmail all along
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[11:52:28] <Nit_> Hi, just reading an article about https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8314.txt. The RFC now recommande the use of implicit TLS instead of STARTTLS and register le port 465 pour submission over TLS. So use of implicit TLS on port 993 995 or 465 is not longer deprecated
[11:52:47] <Nit_> s/le/the/ s/pour/for/
[11:53:24] <cgt> Will these nitwits make up their fricking mind??
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[13:19:22] <camile> hello, how can i convert MIME message to POSTFIX internal format?
[13:19:38] <camile> just like sendmail(1) but pipe output
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[14:44:29] <rob0> It's "submissions" now, go figure :(
[14:45:50] <rob0> camile, that is a very strange question, why would you want to do that?
[14:46:04] <rob0> !xy
[14:46:04] <knoba> rob0: "xy" : (#1) The XY problem is that you want to do X, but don't know how. You think that you can solve X by doing Y, so you ask us how to do Y. We tell you that's an odd problem to want to solve. Just ask us about the real problem., or (#2) http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem -- I want to do X, but I'm asking how to do Y...
[14:47:04] <rob0> Use sendmail, let Postfix handle its own internal format.
[14:47:28] <camile> i want to convert mails on one box, and then submit on anotehr
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[15:53:23] <lunaphyte> why?
[15:53:33] <lunaphyte> what is the ACTUAL problem you are trying to solve?
[15:59:29] <camile> i'm trying to increase sending performance
[15:59:38] <camile> the problem is to get messages to the queue
[15:59:52] <camile> not about interserver communication
[16:00:01] <camile> sendmail seems to be single threaded
[16:00:29] <camile> and i want just to generate all messages and rsync them directly to deffered folder
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[16:03:01] <lunaphyte> what is the actual performance problem? why are you using sendmail for this?
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[16:08:42] <camile> i have a java program that generates MIME messages, then i should send them
[16:08:57] <lunaphyte> use smtp. not the sendmail binary
[16:09:08] <camile> smtp is even more slow
[16:09:21] <camile> i'm using smtp now
[16:09:35] <camile> and performance is ~10 messages per second
[16:09:47] <lunaphyte> then you have other issues
[16:10:07] <camile> 16minutes for 10k messages !
[16:11:05] <lunaphyte> !performance
[16:11:05] <knoba> lunaphyte: "performance" : Having postfix performance issues? See the 'Bottleneck analysis' and 'Performance tuning' pages under the 'Problem solving' section of http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
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[17:34:41] <ebrasca> How I can fix this : http://termbin.com/ubpq
[17:35:34] <ebrasca> It is related to smtpd_banner but I don't understand how to fix it.
[17:36:01] <ebrasca> In my main.cf I have "smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)"
[17:37:27] <cgt> Why do you think this is a banner issue? Looks like Microsoft has your mail server's IP on its blocklist.
[17:39:20] <ebrasca> cgt: Page https://mxtoolbox.com/domain/librepanther.com/ say I have "Reverse DNS is not a valid Hostname"
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[17:41:13] <cgt> You're confused. smtpd_banner has nothing to do with this, it is only used when other mail servers deliver mail to you. The issue you are having is about your server delivering mail to other servers.
[17:42:03] <ebrasca> cgt: How I can fix it?
[17:42:04] <cgt> The problem is that Microsoft has your mail server on a blocklist.
[17:42:22] <cgt> Read the diagnostic message
[17:43:24] <ebrasca> But in page https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3alibrepanther.com&run=toolpage say I am ok.
[17:43:35] <ebrasca> I don't understand this message.
[17:44:09] * ebrasca is reading it againg.
[17:44:24] <cgt> Look at the last couple of lines in the termbin.com paste you linked. The explanation is right there. That is a message from Microsoft's mail server.
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[17:46:49] <cgt> To be clear, this is not a Postfix configuration issue. You are sending mail correctly, Microsoft just didn't accept your mail. Contact Microsoft.
[17:51:22] <ebrasca> Gmail , openmailbox accept my emails.
[17:51:46] <ebrasca> I have send this error to my ISP.
[17:54:25] <ebrasca> cgt: Thanks you.
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[17:57:39] <cgt> np
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[18:55:07] <matus2> Hi guys, I am using content_filter to filter out spam messages... Is it possible to whitelist specific sender IP ranges from content filtering?
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[19:50:22] <lunaphyte> matus2: yes, but why?
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[20:04:06] <gunix> Hello
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[21:06:51] <danjel_> Hi there everyone. I'm new to this, so please forgive me for making rookie mistakes.
[21:07:07] <danjel_> I have set up a new mailserver at danjel.dk
[21:07:55] <danjel_> I can log in via imap (dovecot) and can see and move mails.
[21:08:14] <danjel_> I can send mails out of the system.
[21:08:36] <danjel_> But when i try to send to the system, I get relay errors.
[21:10:13] <cgt> !getting_help danjel_
[21:10:13] <knoba> cgt: Error: "getting_help" is not a valid command.
[21:10:22] <cgt> is that so?
[21:10:29] <cgt> !getting_help
[21:10:29] <knoba> cgt: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
[21:10:31] <danjel_> I have pasted some info here:
[21:10:33] <danjel_> https://bpaste.net/show/a13c1e3d13af
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[21:21:05] <danjel_> !relevant_logs
[21:21:05] <knoba> danjel_: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging
[21:21:49] <danjel_> !showconfig
[21:21:49] <knoba> danjel_: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
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[21:23:34] <danjel_> !pastebin
[21:23:34] <knoba> danjel_: "pastebin" : A pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, pastebin.ca, paste.ee, ptpb.pw, ix.io and many others. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.
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[21:24:55] <cgt> try: postmap -q mail at danjel dot dk mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf
[21:25:35] <Zerberus> your $mydomain is wrong (not the root cause)
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[21:26:12] <cgt> Anyway, I'm off to bed. Night.
[21:30:55] <danjel_> Night....
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[21:31:43] <danjel_> I have made a fresh paste with the newly discovered -nf and -Mf options. And the output from the suggested command.
[21:31:51] <danjel_> https://bpaste.net/show/0f10af64268f
[21:35:00] <lunaphyte> pastebin postmap -q 'danjel.dk' mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf
[21:35:38] <lunaphyte> and please don't use crappy side scrolling pastebins like that one
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[22:12:34] <danjel_> That gives nothing
[22:12:49] <danjel_> What pastebin should I use instead?
[22:16:05] <lunaphyte> um, you did summon the factoid...
[22:16:23] <lunaphyte> one of those, i'd expect
[22:16:40] <lunaphyte> if that postmap command returns nothing, then that is your problem
[22:16:59] <lunaphyte> what's with the mysql stuff anyway? you don't need that
[22:17:49] <danjel_> sorry the factoid says dpaste, I read it as bpaste that I knew already....
[22:18:19] <danjel_> I was told that I nneded mysql for multiple domains.
[22:18:41] <lunaphyte> who told you that? they gave you really awful advice :(
[22:18:46] <danjel_> I guessed that it was the problem, but i'm not sure where to look for answers.
[22:19:13] <danjel_> I will try to do a paste with the mysql setup and the database
[22:19:28] <lunaphyte> i'd just get rid of the unnecessary mysql stuff
[22:19:50] <lunaphyte> you're adding complexity for no actual benefit
[22:21:16] <danjel_> Honestly I have a setup that I like (except the "not working" part). Including a postfixadmin interface.
[22:22:28] <lunaphyte> pastebin /etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf
[22:28:15] <danjel_> https://dpaste.de/AuU2
[22:28:48] <lunaphyte> does that sql query return a result when run by hand?
[22:31:36] <mETz> I'm actually just migrating a system to postfixadmin myself, works fine here
[22:32:22] <mETz> and yes, a rdbms is overkil in most cases but makes it easier to have a web-based administration around it
[22:32:41] <lunaphyte> not empirically, no
[22:33:02] <lunaphyte> sql is an inherently awful place to store credentials anyway. very foolish
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[22:35:38] <mETz> danjel_: start with checking your sql based maps
[22:36:07] <mETz> danjel_: postmap -q your.domain mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf
[22:36:30] <lunaphyte> that was already covered
[22:36:38] <lunaphyte> please consult the logs
[22:37:02] <lunaphyte> before "jumping in"...
[22:37:02] <danjel_> yes, returned nothing
[22:37:48] <lunaphyte> danjel_: you can ignore folks who are asking questions that have already been answered :)
[22:38:53] <danjel_> Tried running the sql by hand, returned still nothing.
[22:39:03] <lunaphyte> so that's your problem then
[22:39:26] <lunaphyte> #mysql might be able to help debug that further
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[22:39:43] <lunaphyte> at least we ruled out it being a postfix issue, so that's good
[22:39:54] <danjel_> mETz: how does your mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf look
[22:43:21] <lunaphyte> once you have the mysql query run by hand working, we can help if it doesn't work with postmap -q
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[23:09:51] <danjel_> typing at #mysql, will get back. thx...
[23:11:55] <lunaphyte> good luck!
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