February 9, 2018 
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February 9, 2018 [00:00:32] *** bauruine <bauruine!~bauruine@2a01:4f8:130:8285:fefe::36> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[00:01:08] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@11-148-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[00:05:23] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[00:10:17] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:10:36] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:11:45] *** Tulah <Tulah!~tulah@durhur.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[00:13:35] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@95.233.165.118> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:18:52] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@icookc.lnk.telstra.net> has joined #postfix[00:22:42] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@11-148-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Neo4)[00:27:57] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[00:48:52] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[00:55:03] *** Tulah <Tulah!~tulah@durhur.fi> has joined #postfix[00:56:24] *** Guest27248 <Guest27248!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:25b8:97e7:4e17:9288> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)[00:56:48] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:25b8:97e7:4e17:9288> has joined #postfix[01:06:11] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[01:08:50] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[01:09:30] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:4dcf:e3d2:be3d:f322> has joined #postfix[01:10:27] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:16:14] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@208-70-47-114.bb.hrtc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:22:18] *** spammy <spammy!~shawniver@206.225.79.131> has joined #postfix[01:48:24] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[01:50:23] *** Sketch <Sketch!~Sketch@new.rednsx.org> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:50:55] *** Sketch <Sketch!~Sketch@new.rednsx.org> has joined #postfix[01:52:49] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:56:22] *** noobineer <noobineer!~noobineer@c-68-55-184-193.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[01:57:23] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:4dcf:e3d2:be3d:f322> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:02:09] *** dkg <dkg!~dkg@ool-6c3a0662.static.optonline.net> has joined #postfix[02:02:47] <dkg> when postfix delivers to a maildir, or when it executes pipelines from ~/.forward, is its umask set more restrictively than 022? if so, where is that happening?[02:06:58] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[02:11:29] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[02:20:32] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has joined #postfix[02:58:56] *** SupaYoshi <SupaYoshi!~SupaYoshi@104.129.10.95> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:59:38] <patdk-lap> !tell dkg local[02:59:38] <knoba> dkg: "local" : The local(8) daemon processes delivery requests from the Postfix queue manager to deliver mail to local recipients, meaning users that exist in your /etc/passwd. This is done for domains listed in $mydestination. See !basic, http://www.postfix.org/local.8.html and http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html#local_domain_class[03:02:12] <dkg> patdk-lap: that doesn't really answer my question. i'm asking specifically about the umask[03:02:44] <dkg> i note that master (which spawns local) pre-emptively sets the umask to 077 here: https://github.com/vdukhovni/postfix/blame/master/postfix/src/master/master.c#L278[03:03:18] <dkg> and maildir delivery creates files with mode 0600 here: https://github.com/vdukhovni/postfix/blame/master/postfix/src/local/maildir.c#L188[03:03:35] <dkg> so i don't see a way that postfix can be made to safely deliver world-readable mail :/[03:03:57] <patdk-lap> no, your asking specifically about how the local lda works[03:04:04] <patdk-lap> so lookup the local lda[03:04:51] <dkg> yes, i'm even reading the source of the local lda, as linked above.[03:05:16] <dkg> it looks very restrictive, with no way to loosen up the permissions. i'm asking if there's a way to permit world-readable delivery[03:05:31] <patdk-lap> that is insane[03:05:33] <dkg> or whether i have to (potentially dangerously) work around this by doing arbitrary chmods, etc[03:05:38] <dkg> what is insane?[03:05:48] <patdk-lap> !virtual[03:05:48] <knoba> patdk-lap: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and mailboxes that do not require individual system accounts. See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[03:06:10] <patdk-lap> or just use your own lda[03:06:30] <dkg> my own lda will be spawned by master, which itself sets umask 077, right?[03:06:49] <patdk-lap> dunno, it will do whatever you make your lda do[03:07:39] *** SupaYoshi <SupaYoshi!~SupaYoshi@104.129.10.95> has joined #postfix[03:07:43] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[03:08:30] <dkg> patdk-lap: so far, you've: (a) not-answered my question by referring me to a bot answer unrelated to the question, (b) tried to tell me i was asking something that i wasn't asking, (c) called me insane, and (d) told me to write my own software. if your goal is to make #postfix a welcoming channel, you ought to rethink your tactics.[03:10:34] <patdk-lap> I never called you insane[03:10:44] <patdk-lap> I called world readable delievery insane[03:10:50] <patdk-lap> so keep it straight[03:10:54] <patdk-lap> !tell dkg getting_help[03:10:54] <knoba> dkg: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[03:12:08] <dkg> patdk-lap: world-readable delivery may be insane for some use cases. for other use cases, like where delivered mail is going to be visible in a web archive anyway, it is insane to pretend that the mail is not world-readable.[03:12:47] <patdk-lap> I don't see what world-readable is needed for a web archive[03:13:07] <patdk-lap> how do you think webmail works?[03:13:43] <dkg> i think most webmails require a login, unlike the web archive i'm working on.[03:14:01] <patdk-lap> login doesn't change the user the webmail app is running as[03:14:02] <dkg> anyway, clearly there are more productive places i can spend my time.[03:14:10] *** dkg <dkg!~dkg@ool-6c3a0662.static.optonline.net> has left #postfix[03:15:08] <patdk-lap> oh well[03:15:17] <patdk-lap> now he will never know it is on line 295 of src/global/mail_stream.c[03:19:32] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[03:27:13] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[03:27:57] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[03:32:23] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[03:36:52] *** Teraii <Teraii!~Teraii@2001:470:caaf:1::93> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:38:10] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[03:38:48] *** Neo4 <Neo4!~Thunderbi@11-148-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #postfix[03:39:47] <rob0> patdk-lap, you big meanie![03:41:47] <rob0> Your links about local were absolutely correct; the fact that they do not mention the feature dkg wanted shows that the feature does not exist.[03:42:44] <rob0> I suppose you could deliver to a script and have the script change the umask.[03:43:15] <rob0> Or, just use GNU Mailman for its web archive feature.[03:44:09] <rob0> Mailman scripts are also invoked by local from master, with umask 022.[03:46:15] *** Teraii <Teraii!~Teraii@2001:470:caaf:1::93> has joined #postfix[03:46:28] <pj> The best answer I was able to find was in local(8) in the section, "DELIVERY RIGHTS" which pretty much explains where postfix gets the permissions it sets.[03:52:35] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p54A248D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:57:16] *** nomeed <nomeed!~nomeed@p54A24535.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[03:57:53] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[03:59:29] *** mETz <mETz!~DermETz@2a02:2028:845:b701:21f:e2ff:fe5d:f742> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:01:33] *** noobineer <noobineer!~noobineer@c-68-55-184-193.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:02:01] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:03:31] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~Diemuzi@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[04:03:41] *** mETz <mETz!~DermETz@2a02:2028:53d:5701:21f:e2ff:fe5d:f742> has joined #postfix[04:05:26] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:9475:24a5:326b:e0b3> has joined #postfix[04:08:26] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216-75-116-100.res.dyn.allophone.biz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[04:10:01] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:9475:24a5:326b:e0b3> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[04:14:24] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@95.233.165.118> has joined #postfix[04:15:03] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~vault@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye cruel world!)[04:17:04] *** chachasmooth_ <chachasmooth_!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:17:45] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[04:36:57] *** aro <aro!aro@c-71-227-127-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[04:36:58] *** aro <aro!aro@c-71-227-127-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[04:36:58] *** aro <aro!aro@unaffiliated/aro> has joined #postfix[04:37:54] <aro> for some reason postfix isnt handing mail off to dovecot[04:38:21] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[04:38:29] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:de3:1b86:9613:749d> has joined #postfix[04:42:22] <thumbs> !tell aro welcome[04:42:22] <knoba> aro: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![04:42:36] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[04:42:52] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:de3:1b86:9613:749d> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:55:53] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[04:58:07] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has joined #postfix[05:09:22] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@5.146.199.94> has joined #postfix[05:14:47] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@5.146.199.94> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[05:24:10] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[05:29:20] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:38:22] *** ArturSha1 <ArturSha1!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has joined #postfix[05:41:31] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@95.233.165.118> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:55:48] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.81> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:08:38] *** ArturSha1 <ArturSha1!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[06:39:46] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~vault@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has joined #postfix[07:02:30] *** ArturSha1 <ArturSha1!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has joined #postfix[07:04:30] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:792b:fe9:651:2f84> has joined #postfix[07:06:58] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[07:08:20] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@static-n49-176-171-248.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[07:08:40] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:792b:fe9:651:2f84> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:26:06] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[07:30:25] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:58:35] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:59:18] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[08:04:18] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[08:18:05] *** ageis <ageis!~kevin@cointel.pro> has quit IRC (Quit: find me at https://cointel.pro)[08:18:46] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:18:46] *** ageis <ageis!~kevin@cointel.pro> has joined #postfix[08:19:45] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[08:22:03] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[08:26:53] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[08:31:11] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:31:27] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #postfix[08:31:29] *** bauruine <bauruine!~bauruine@mail.tuxli.ch> has joined #postfix[08:31:44] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@icookc.lnk.telstra.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:35:24] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[08:40:58] *** lotuspsychje <lotuspsychje!~lotuspsyc@ip-83-134-158-104.dsl.scarlet.be> has joined #postfix[08:42:04] *** sklv <sklv!~sklv@gateway/tor-sasl/sklv> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[08:43:23] *** Niemi <Niemi!niemi@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-mferjvfwfmufiuav> has joined #postfix[08:56:12] *** lotuspsychje <lotuspsychje!~lotuspsyc@ip-83-134-158-104.dsl.scarlet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:02:30] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2.228.92.98> has joined #postfix[09:06:35] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:08:28] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[09:10:05] *** Reinhilde <Reinhilde!ellenor@unaffiliated/ellenor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[09:10:56] *** [twisti] <[twisti]!~twisti@toadwater.com> has joined #postfix[09:10:57] <[twisti]> i set up postfix, and its working fine, but i keep getting bounce mails (its for a forum, so when someone accidentally signs up with bla at gmaaaaail dot com i get a bounce that gmaaaail.com[09:11:04] <[twisti]> doesnt exist sent to my account). is there a way to configure those to go to /dev/null ?[09:16:18] *** Ellenor <Ellenor!ellenor@unaffiliated/ellenor> has joined #postfix[09:25:42] *** Ellenor is now known as Reinhilde[09:26:21] <ZWoz> There isn't good options here. You don't want know that user registered with non-existent address?[09:26:46] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[09:27:26] *** ariscop <ariscop!~Phase4@58.106.177.140> has joined #postfix[09:27:39] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has joined #postfix[09:27:40] <[twisti]> no, spam bots try to register with non-existing addresses 50 times a day[09:28:44] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@194.2.202.81> has joined #postfix[09:29:44] <ZWoz> And if those spambots use existing addresses you soon find yourself on some blacklist as spam originator[09:29:59] *** riz0n <riz0n!~rizzy@50.111.77.68> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[09:30:00] <ZWoz> Better filter out, what you send[09:30:08] <ZWoz> Captcha on forum, for example[09:38:34] *** Niemi <Niemi!niemi@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-mferjvfwfmufiuav> has quit IRC (Quit: bb all)[09:38:49] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:bdd6:4d16:2e8c:1361> has joined #postfix[09:43:18] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:bdd6:4d16:2e8c:1361> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:47:10] *** edux <edux!~edux@190.247.32.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[09:49:33] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:bdd6:4d16:2e8c:1361> has joined #postfix[09:56:51] <pj> [twisti]: I would send them to an automated processor that removes them from the registration queue.[09:58:13] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:25b8:97e7:4e17:9288> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:58:52] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:25b8:97e7:4e17:9288> has joined #postfix[10:05:07] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:06:00] <rebbdohr> hello everybody, I have some problems regarding old TLS protocols (mails are rejected by a company my university works with)... our department has its own postfix server which uses the universities smtp as a relay. Is it possible, that the relay envelopes with an old TLS version and thus it is rejected?[10:07:58] <Kelsar> rebbdohr: did you change the default tls settings? and if so, why?[10:08:30] <Kelsar> !tell rebbdohr welcome[10:08:30] <knoba> rebbdohr: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![10:09:00] <rebbdohr> did I do something wrong?[10:09:24] <rebbdohr> (regarding channel rules)[10:10:08] <Kelsar> not wrong, just follow the instruction in the topic[10:11:30] <rebbdohr> !getting_help[10:11:30] <knoba> rebbdohr: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[10:12:15] <rebbdohr> !relevant_logs[10:12:16] <knoba> rebbdohr: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[10:14:31] <rebbdohr> OK I didnt follow that in the first place, although I checked logs and configs for some time, otherwise I wouldnt be asking here...[10:15:23] <rebbdohr> my question before was rather general regarding postfix, because this I cant really look up in configs and logs...[10:18:18] <rebbdohr> !showconfig[10:18:18] <knoba> rebbdohr: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin (see !pastebin) with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[10:18:40] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:18:46] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[10:20:50] *** Walt005 <Walt005!~WALTwalt0@p578c2a0c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[10:27:10] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[10:27:39] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:bdd6:4d16:2e8c:1361> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:29:11] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:bdd6:4d16:2e8c:1361> has joined #postfix[10:30:32] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[10:30:44] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:30:45] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[10:32:07] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has joined #postfix[10:32:19] <rebbdohr> Kelsar: to put my question more precisely, if I use another postfix/smtp as a relay, is this one relevant for which TLS version is used?[10:38:53] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye!)[10:40:46] *** ViolentTango <ViolentTango!~ViolentTa@d8D87066D.access.telenet.be> has joined #postfix[10:41:25] <ZWoz> rebbdohr, yes, its possible that other side don't support or blacklists older protocols. You probably need help from your relay maintainer for debugging this[10:42:35] <rebbdohr> ZWoz: yes, I already contacted them...[10:43:02] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #postfix[10:43:02] *** ViolentTango <ViolentTango!~ViolentTa@d8D87066D.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:05:15] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2.228.92.98> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[11:06:54] <[twisti]> hm, i still have something weird happening. i set my postfix to use gmail as a relay server, which works fine, but mails i send are sent with my gmail address as their from: instead of me at my dot domain.com[11:07:00] <[twisti]> any idea what im doing wrong ?[11:11:35] <survietamine> you don't say how you make the message[11:11:52] <survietamine> looks like the job of your MUA[11:12:27] <[twisti]> i tried both the mail tool and phps mail()[11:13:01] <[twisti]> i was under the impression that postfix was responsible for setting the 'from' part, if it isnt, that would explain why i cant find the responsible setting :D[11:13:43] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[11:13:48] <survietamine> if you are php coder, use some decent lib like phpmailer or pear mail::factory[11:13:52] <survietamine> not mail()[11:13:52] *** DTZUZO <DTZUZO!~DTZUZO@S0106bcd16584b0aa.vs.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:14:19] <[twisti]> im just testing right now[11:14:22] <survietamine> and even with cli mail command, you can set envelope and headers properly[11:15:48] <[twisti]> im trying to figure out what is setting the default, not how to override the default. the default is my personal gmail which i never ever want to have in the from field[11:16:03] <survietamine> there is not only 1 mail flavour but several (http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/mailx_history.html), check which one you have, and read the manual for it[11:17:04] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[11:19:41] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[11:19:47] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:19:47] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[11:24:56] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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If I have a web page or hosting websites which uses contact forms, those forms use php functions to send mail and don't use postfix, correct?[13:06:00] <edgy> !relevant_logs[13:06:00] <knoba> edgy: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility and should not be shown. Also see http://rob0.nodns4.us/postfix-logging[13:09:46] <ZWoz> edgy: your php mail() uses sendmail, which usually belongs to postfix.[13:10:43] <edgy> ZWoz: ok let's say I disabled the php mail function, then the php would use something like phpmailer which has nothing to do with postfix, right?[13:14:12] <ZWoz> If you have configured phpmailer, then there are options. You can connect outside mailserver or send mails locally, which is back to sendmail command or something like that.[13:15:35] <rob0> I can't answer your php questions, but I doubt that a whole MTA has been written as a php library.[13:16:00] <edgy> ZWoz: Umm! ok got it. Now, the second part, if I configured postfix to use sasl and let's suppose I have done it properly, where is the MAIL FROM address set?[13:16:14] <edgy> ZWoz: and btw thanks for your care[13:16:32] <rob0> but perhaps you don't need an entire MTA?[13:16:54] <rob0> !nullclient[13:16:54] <knoba> rob0: "nullclient" : (#1) a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details., or (#2) See http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client[13:16:59] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:fce8:6532:c8d9:df42> has joined #postfix[13:17:34] <rob0> ^^ to send through an account you have somewhere[13:20:13] <ZWoz> edgy: with mail() this is little bit more comlicated, you give sendmail option - http://php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php look example #3 there[13:21:00] <ZWoz> with phpmailer you should have it semi automatically[13:21:56] <edgy> ZWoz: ok forget about mail what I want to do is just to send emails. Not receive anything. may be what rob0 called null client. but I can't see the way to authenticate in rob0 link[13:23:56] <edgy> ZWoz: I configured postfix with smtp of zoho and when I test the mails aren't received and I get a message of status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with smtp.zoho.com[204.141.32.118] while sending end of data -- message may be sent more than once). So, my question is should I go this route or better use something else than postfix[13:24:25] <edgy> ZWoz: if this route is correct, I would paste more details regarding my configs[13:25:03] <rob0> Postfix isn't the best choice as a null client[13:25:33] <rob0> !nullclient_software[13:25:33] <knoba> rob0: "nullclient_software" : a program that serves as a drop in replacement for /usr/sbin/sendmail and provides a simple means to submit messages to an existing msa without the need to install and maintain a full-blown mta/msa. examples include msmtp, esmtp, ssmtp and nullmailer. also see !msa[13:26:22] <rob0> ^^ look at them in that order[13:27:17] <edgy> rob0: so postfix is more suitable when I need to receive mails? Isn't that the job of imap or pop server like dovecot?[13:27:31] <ZWoz> edgy, look configuration example from there: https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer you can connect outside mail server, use authentication and TLS...no need for local postfix[13:28:56] <edgy> ZWoz: thanks but i don't want to use mail() or phpmailer(). I just want the messages of the server that got to root to be forward to my email account[13:29:22] <edgy> ZWoz: without the people using phpmailer() to be affected[13:30:29] <tuxick> that's aliases[13:30:37] <tuxick> totally different story[13:31:36] <rob0> or just stick with nullclient software as I said[13:32:00] <edgy> tuxick: I know it's an alias but if I added it in /etc/aliases still it needs to be sent with authentication using postfix or whatever, no?[13:32:35] <edgy> rob0: I will try msmtp ...[13:32:45] <edgy> rob0: let's see whether I can make it work[13:34:02] <edgy> rob0: shall I remove postfix or disable it or they can co-work together?[13:34:04] *** [twisti] <[twisti]!~twisti@toadwater.com> has left #postfix[13:40:12] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@2a02:908:1874:3aa0:fce8:6532:c8d9:df42> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:40:30] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[13:42:38] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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The whole thing is documented,[14:04:57] <rob0> !tls[14:04:57] <knoba> rob0: "tls" : Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). Previously known as SSL, TLS adds a layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, submission, IMAP or POP3 to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS is implemented using the STARTTLS method, while the non-standard wrapper style of implementation is deprecated at this point. See http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html for more info.[14:06:09] <rob0> BTW most/all of these questions we see are about self-inflicted wounds.[14:07:22] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[14:08:33] *** ageis <ageis!~kevin@cointel.pro> has quit IRC (Quit: find me at https://cointel.pro)[14:08:56] <rebbdohr> rob0: thanks, Im digging around in the doc, maybe I can answer the question myself... what you mean with "self-inflicted wounds"[14:09:17] *** ageis <ageis!~kevin@cointel.pro> has joined #postfix[14:09:36] <rob0> people changing settings they should have left alone[14:09:58] *** synthroid <synthroid!synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[14:12:19] <rebbdohr> yeah, but thats kind of part of the unix philosophy ;) Im debugging something I didnt set up myself and parts (the universities relays) I cant even change myself...[14:13:26] <rebbdohr> but my postfix config seems to be left mostly with the default values, only use_tls=yes is set for smtp and smtpd[14:13:47] <rob0> and that has been deprecated ~10 years[14:16:05] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@65.183.151.121> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[14:17:11] <rebbdohr> wow. but it works on a (in debian world) recent version[14:21:05] <patdk-lap> !use_tls[14:21:05] <knoba> patdk-lap: Error: "use_tls" is not a valid command.[14:21:12] <patdk-lap> !smtpd_use_tls[14:21:12] <knoba> patdk-lap: "smtpd_use_tls" : Obsolete main.cf setting to enable STARTTLS in smtpd(8). For Postfix 2.3 and later, see http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_tls_security_level instead.[14:21:31] <rob0> deprecated means "superceded by new settings", not removed. And myths live forever on the Internet. People will follow 15-year-old howtos this week, to set up new servers, according to information which was wrong when originally posted.[14:25:53] <edgy> rob0: msmtp seems to be very easy compared with postfix for my use case, I just tried it in my laptop and managed to send mails. Now, I will try it from the server[14:26:26] <rebbdohr> I would guess this server was set up on squeeze, I did upgrade it wheezy->stretch some time ago... but as you mentioned, replacing the deprecated commands wouldnt change anything[14:28:46] <patdk-lap> squeeze is pretty new[14:29:13] <rob0> edgy, good deal. Yes, it's like setting up the sending side of a MUA, which ordinary users should be able to do.[14:29:20] <patdk-lap> how if you where talking about woody[14:29:40] <patdk-lap> s/how/now/[14:29:51] <rebbdohr> patdk-lap: XD[14:29:58] <rebbdohr> !smtp_tls_ciphers[14:29:58] <knoba> rebbdohr: Error: "smtp_tls_ciphers" is not a valid command.[14:30:05] <rebbdohr> !smtpd_tls_ciphers[14:30:05] <knoba> rebbdohr: Error: "smtpd_tls_ciphers" is not a valid command.[14:30:18] <patdk-lap> why are you setting siphers?[14:30:46] <patdk-lap> what is this mailserver doing?[14:30:56] <patdk-lap> is it only sending to a single mta[14:31:54] <rob0> I don't think we're going to get an answer as to what is the problem. I asked that also.[14:33:07] <rebbdohr> no, its not, its using a central relay at the uni[14:33:55] <rebbdohr> patdk-lap: rather protocols...[14:35:56] <rob0> If your relayhost restricts what you can use for TLS protocols, you might have to go to them for support.[14:37:04] <rob0> But with most smtp_tls_* settings left alone, you'll probably negotiate the best encryption you can do.[14:37:20] <rob0> !smtp_tls_security_level[14:37:20] <knoba> rob0: "smtp_tls_security_level" : The default SMTP TLS security level for the Postfix SMTP client; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtp_use_tls, smtp_enforce_tls, and smtp_tls_enforce_peername. Specify one of the following security levels: none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.[14:38:14] <rob0> If you're only connecting to one relayhost for all mail, you might get by with "encrypt", otherwise set "may".[14:38:33] <rob0> !smtp_tls_loglevel[14:38:33] <knoba> rob0: "smtp_tls_loglevel" : Enable additional Postfix smtp(8) client logging of TLS activity, default 0, 1 is a good operational setting. Each logging level also includes the information that is logged at all lower logging levels.[14:38:42] <rob0> smtp_tls_loglevel=1[14:39:02] <rebbdohr> loglevel is already set to 1[14:39:22] <rob0> Remove all other smtp_tls_* settings and see if your wound was self-inflicted.[14:39:39] <rebbdohr> its using one relay to which all mail is forwarded[14:40:06] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[14:40:34] <rebbdohr> I first wanted to further understand how the handshakes work between MUA MTA MTArelay[14:41:28] <rebbdohr> Im wainting for their reply, but I guess if I enforce TLSv1.2 as mandatory protocol no communication will be possible[14:42:20] <rob0> well, I don't manage your relayhost, so I can't answer that[14:42:32] <rebbdohr> me neither ;)[14:43:26] <patdk-lap> well, if it isn't using tls 1.2 now, yes, it will break[14:43:41] <patdk-lap> unless you did something that restricted it from using tls 1.2[14:44:44] <rebbdohr> no, greping over the config I can see alot of successfull TLSv1.2 handshakes from clients/MUAs[14:45:07] <patdk-lap> yes, but those use smtpd settings, not smtp[14:45:17] <rob0> connections TO you have nothing to do with outbound connections FROM you[14:45:29] <rob0> !smtp!=smtpd[14:45:29] <knoba> rob0: "smtp!=smtpd" : Postfix smtp_* and smtpd_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtp_ = client and smtpd_ = server, the client-side sends mail whilst the server-side receives mail. (smtp = client = sends mail) (smtpd = server = receives mail)[14:47:01] <rebbdohr> I know, but for both Im using (deprecated) settings that enforce TLS usage[14:50:06] <rob0> so change them to the replacement settings[14:51:14] <rebbdohr> yes... is there some config check tool which gives warnings for deprecated options?[14:52:23] <rebbdohr> for the rest I have to wait for the relay operators, because enforcing TLS>1.0 it could be, that they use an older openssl version which does not support newer TLS[14:54:41] <edgy> rob0: Indeed! I configured it on the server and it's working as expected. Tested it manually. Now, should I expect that it would magically be used by cron jobs who are sending to root?[14:55:31] <edgy> rob0: I already has /etc/aliases to forward root mail and did /etc/mail.rc set sendmail=/usr/bin/msmtp[14:55:57] <rob0> I don't know. There are various cron daemons with various features. Best to check the documentation of your OS/distro.[14:57:28] <patdk-lap> rebbdohr, why must you use tls 1.2?[14:58:08] <patdk-lap> it seems kindof insane for you to dictate to them, what you want to send them[14:58:47] *** mices <mices!~mices___@unaffiliated/mices> has joined #postfix[15:00:05] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:00:28] <mices> i think someone has my password so i changed the users system password but thunderbird email client still retrieves mail from postfix like changing the password didn't make a difference, how do i change passwords for postfix users if not by changing the users system password?[15:00:50] <patdk-lap> dunno[15:00:55] <patdk-lap> postfix doesn't use passwords[15:00:58] <patdk-lap> !tell mices sasl[15:00:58] <knoba> mices: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[15:01:42] <mices> so when i try to send mail i'll be prompted to enter the new password but in the meanwhile i can gather all the mail i want?[15:02:27] <rebbdohr> patdk-lap: part of the department works with a company that only allows TLS>1.0, everything else s[15:02:31] <mices> seems my question relates to dovecot[15:02:34] <mices> sorry[15:02:42] <rebbdohr> patdk-lap: part of the department works with a company that only allows TLS>1.0, everything else is rejected[15:02:50] *** ArturSha1 <ArturSha1!~artur-sha@212.112.100.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:03:28] <rob0> IIRC Dovecot caches authentication awhile. Not sure how long that is cached, but a restart of dovecot should clear it.[15:03:35] <patdk-lap> rebbdohr, but your using a relay[15:03:42] <patdk-lap> so you need to submit a ticket with your people[15:03:45] <patdk-lap> nothing to do here[15:04:06] <rebbdohr> patdk-lap: yes, now Im pretty sure the fault is not on my side...[15:05:28] <rebbdohr> patdk-lap: I already did submit a ticket, thanks alot for your help![15:06:38] <mices> well i've used now the sasl2passwd command to change passwords but email client seems unaffected, it just logs on, only goes to show it's a dovecot thing, not postfix i guess[15:06:57] *** rwb <rwb!~Thunderbi@74.85.159.242> has joined #postfix[15:09:57] <rob0> sasl2passwd is a Cyrus thing, does it work with Dovecot? I doubt it.[15:13:24] *** eelstrebor <eelstrebor!~eelstrebo@216.75.116.100> has joined #postfix[15:13:47] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~Diemuzi@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[15:14:16] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:14:43] *** rebbdohr <rebbdohr!~rebbdohr@vpngw.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:18:17] <survietamine> mices: why don't you check the IP address of the client?[15:18:29] <survietamine> to evaluate if it's from your devices[15:19:03] <survietamine> dovecot has 'doveadm pw' command, but I don't think it's useful in your case if you do pam authentication[15:19:07] <mices> actually dovecot uses the system accounts passwords[15:19:37] <survietamine> my first question was about the fact you wrote you think someone else has your password[15:19:39] <mices> i've seen posts from people who say they can still log in and out of ubuntu using their old passwords after changing them[15:19:46] <survietamine> just check if it's your devices connected, no?[15:19:59] <mices> in auth.log ?[15:20:12] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #postfix[15:20:44] <survietamine> what makes you think that someone else use your account?[15:20:59] <mices> it's not think, i know[15:21:04] <survietamine> you can check currect connections with: doveadm who youraccount[15:21:56] <lunaphyte> there's a great channel for discussion of dovecot :)[15:22:01] <mices> lol[15:22:47] <edgy> rob0: just one last trivial message, postfix still shows a warning thought everything works well. postfix/postqueue[3357]: warning: Mail system is down -- accessing queue directly[15:22:57] <mices> although you can set vuser passwd's dovecot uses system user account passwords so my issues at the system level[15:23:32] <survietamine> as lunaphyte and others suggested, ask in #dovecot but read https://wiki.dovecot.org/Authentication/Caching first[15:24:04] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-255-23.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[15:24:43] <mices> ok, i needed to restart dovecot after changing system passwords[15:24:59] <survietamine> you misread[15:33:50] <edgy> rob0: ok enough for now. thanks a lot you have done me a favor.[15:33:52] *** edgy <edgy!~munzir@95.218.172.229> has left #postfix ("Konversation terminated!")[15:34:01] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[15:34:31] *** rebbdohr_ <rebbdohr_!~rebbdohr@vpngw.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> has joined #postfix[15:34:57] *** rebbdohr_ <rebbdohr_!~rebbdohr@vpngw.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:35:07] *** rebbdohr_ <rebbdohr_!~rebbdohr@vpngw.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> has joined #postfix[15:35:27] *** ]SiB[ <]SiB[!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:35:36] *** ]SiB[1 <]SiB[1!~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/sib/x-9459575> has joined #postfix[15:35:53] *** rebbdohr_ <rebbdohr_!~rebbdohr@vpngw.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:37:29] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[15:37:57] *** ]SiB[1 is now known as ]SiB[[15:44:36] *** Walt005 <Walt005!~WALTwalt0@p578c2a0c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:44:56] *** Walt005 <Walt005!~WALTwalt0@p578c2a0c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[15:50:06] *** fred_tv <fred_tv!~fred_tv@93-46-196-134.ip109.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[15:50:30] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:51:57] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:52:23] *** marninger <marninger!~krystian@router.dir.pl> has joined #postfix[15:53:35] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[15:54:41] *** necrogami <necrogami!sid211237@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xwctsjduvqvuojzy> has quit IRC ()[15:55:59] *** necrogami <necrogami!sid211237@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cozwtroiqqqwelbc> has joined #postfix[15:56:20] *** klow <klow!sid213056@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-prnftcoscgvmouae> has quit IRC ()[15:56:55] *** klow <klow!sid213056@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bobfkdmmzbbhnwrk> has joined #postfix[16:03:14] *** Dolanyeah114 <Dolanyeah114!~dolanyeah@202.57.8.13> has joined #postfix[16:04:00] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[18:58:51] <rsc> patdk-lap: no, this is unfortunately not true.[18:59:20] <rsc> patdk-lap: I have a case here (with sender dependent stuff) where Postfix tries to auth to a host where it should not auth.[19:00:03] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[19:00:03] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[19:00:34] <patdk-lap> not true?[19:00:40] <patdk-lap> did you not read the documentation?[19:00:50] <rsc> patdk-lap: I did read the documentation.[19:01:03] <patdk-lap> !tell rsc getting_help[19:01:03] <knoba> rsc: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[19:01:17] <patdk-lap> then you configured it wrong[19:02:13] <rsc> patdk-lap: When using smtp_sasl_password_maps + sender_dependent_relayhost_maps Postfix tries to SMTP auth to a non-sender_dependent_relayhost_maps-host IF that host provides only NTLM auth, but smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter excludes NTML auth.[19:02:31] <rsc> patdk-lap: note that the specific host is not part of sender_dependent_relayhost_maps of course :)[19:03:19] <patdk-lap> you know none of that makes any since[19:03:39] <patdk-lap> cause it assumes I know what your doing, what the logs say, and your configuration[19:03:42] <patdk-lap> and I have none of that info[19:04:09] <rsc> Ah, forgot that this is newbie only help here :([19:04:57] <Kelsar> rsc: what you are saying just makes no sense at all[19:05:25] <patdk-lap> kelsar, he is above everyone in this channel though[19:05:40] <Kelsar> patdk-lap: i hope he get payed well![19:05:56] <patdk-lap> if he is, I wonder why he is asking us[19:06:05] <rsc> Kelsar: why exactly doesn't it make sense? ;)[19:06:39] <Kelsar> rsc: simple, if you don't tell postfix to auth to a specific host, the default is not auth at all[19:07:05] <Kelsar> rsc: the more likely version is, you messed up the config somewhere[19:17:56] *** Death_rattle__ <Death_rattle__!~death@200116b820f8360090c2df51a32e8673.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #postfix[19:25:53] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[19:28:17] <rsc> Kelsar: http://pastebin.centos.org/540056/ minimized reproducer here.[19:31:17] <patdk-lap> that isn't how smtp_sasl_password_maps works[19:31:24] <patdk-lap> !smtp_sasl_password_maps[19:31:24] <knoba> patdk-lap: "smtp_sasl_password_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional SMTP client lookup tables with one username:password entry per remote hostname or domain. If a remote host or domain has no username:password entry, then the Postfix SMTP client will not attempt to authenticate to the remote host.[19:32:47] <patdk-lap> so it's a config issue like I said at the start[19:32:49] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has joined #postfix[19:33:29] <rsc> patdk-lap: wait...why isn't that how smtp_sasl_password_maps works?[19:33:43] <patdk-lap> because that isn't what the documentation says[19:33:53] <patdk-lap> I have no idea why you have an email address in there at all[19:34:09] <rsc> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_sasl_password_maps says "Optional Postfix SMTP client lookup tables with one username:password entry per sender, remote hostname or next-hop domain. Per-sender lookup is done only when sender-dependent authentication is enabled. If no username:password entry is found, then the Postfix SMTP client will not attempt to authenticate to the remote host"[19:34:11] <patdk-lap> also confused between your config and *logs*[19:34:26] <patdk-lap> all 3 senders are the same[19:34:38] <rsc> Yes, because the destination makes the difference.[19:34:47] <patdk-lap> all 3 will use smtp.provider.tld:587 as the relay host[19:35:12] <rsc> Let's please first sort out smtp_sasl_password_maps mismatch that you see.[19:36:18] <patdk-lap> first explain why you think exmaple 2 and 3 will not use smtp.provider.tld:587[19:36:51] <patdk-lap> all 3 senders are the same, all 3 senders will use the same sender_dependent_relayhost[19:36:56] <rsc> patdk-lap: #1, #2 and #3 are not what I think, but what the log actually says[19:37:04] <patdk-lap> no[19:37:07] <patdk-lap> those are not logs[19:37:17] <patdk-lap> those are your interpidatation of what the logs say[19:37:41] <patdk-lap> again, we don't know what is going on, cause a human in the middle doesn't understand it[19:37:45] <rsc> patdk-lap: I'll provide you with the logs shortly[19:37:47] <patdk-lap> this is why the said human is asking for help[19:37:59] <rsc> patdk-lap: so, I still would be interested in your smtp_sasl_password_maps mismatch.[19:38:10] <patdk-lap> you have one entry[19:38:19] <patdk-lap> it will be used everytime the from address matches[19:38:26] <patdk-lap> so it should always be used in all those examples[19:38:56] <patdk-lap> but it should always go to the sample sender_dependent_relayhost entry also[19:39:13] <patdk-lap> so the examples you gave, don't match the example logs given[19:40:06] <rsc> sender_dependent_relayhost_maps: "This information is overruled with relay_transport, sender_dependent_default_transport_maps, default_transport and with the transport(5) table. "[19:41:42] <Kelsar> 1st sentende[19:41:45] <Kelsar> sentence[19:41:56] <patdk-lap> !smtp_sender_dependent_authentication[19:41:56] <knoba> patdk-lap: "smtp_sender_dependent_authentication" : enable sender-dependent authentication in the postfix smtp client; this is available only with sasl authentication, and disables smtp connection caching to ensure that mail from different senders will use the appropriate credentials. this feature is available in postfix 2.3 and later.[19:42:49] <rsc> Kelsar: I read the first sentence. Where is the mismatch? Note that the second sentence also applies here.[19:44:58] <rsc> patdk-lap: "smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes", sorry. Forgot to copy that into.[19:45:41] <rsc> (forgot to copy that into the pastebin, it is part of the configuration already)[19:49:20] <patdk-lap> hmm, I can't remember[19:49:48] <patdk-lap> the documentation says it is overridden by transport table[19:49:54] <patdk-lap> but it does not say transport_maps[19:50:27] <rsc> Practically, commenting/uncommenting transport_maps flips the behaviour.[19:52:11] <patdk-lap> in that case it should still be the same[19:52:18] <patdk-lap> cause your still matching via the from address[19:52:24] <patdk-lap> and not the destination server[19:55:17] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:55:24] <rsc> To avoid a misunderstanding: Commenting transport_maps: #2 and #3 go via relayhost ([smtp.provider.tld]:587) rather the transport, #1 goes still via relayhost[19:56:23] <patdk-lap> still though, sasl is based on from address[19:56:33] <patdk-lap> so no matter where it goes, it will use that password[19:57:03] <patdk-lap> a change in the relayhost didn't override the sasl_password file, cause the relayhost wasn't the matching restriction[19:57:21] <patdk-lap> now maybe if you added those relayhosts to the sasl_password file without a username/password[19:57:24] <patdk-lap> but I have no idea[19:58:04] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[19:58:04] <rsc> patdk-lap: okay, so you are expecting #1 and #2 to be correct due to the fact that SASL is still used even overwritten with a transport?[19:58:36] <patdk-lap> it's not overwritten[19:58:49] <patdk-lap> it searched sasl_password for the relayhost, found none[19:59:01] <patdk-lap> searched it again with the sender address, and found it[19:59:55] <rsc> Yes. But it uses these credentials in #1 and #2 - and that is expected from your point of view, if I get you right.[20:00:24] <patdk-lap> oh, 3 didn't use auth you claim[20:01:19] <rsc> Yes, and that is exactly the point.[20:01:34] <patdk-lap> are you sure it never tried auth?[20:01:43] <patdk-lap> auth might fail, but it still sends fine[20:01:53] <patdk-lap> really need logs[20:01:57] <rsc> Yes, because I can control the remote side (mail.example.tld)[20:02:00] *** edux <edux!~edux@28-191-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #postfix[20:03:29] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:06:06] *** aindilis <aindilis!~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[20:15:49] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@148.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:23:55] *** notsponsible <notsponsible!~notsponsi@96.56.97.154> has joined #postfix[20:46:53] *** tmberg <tmberg!tmberg@unaffiliated/tmberg> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:48:45] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[20:48:46] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:48:46] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[20:48:46] *** tmberg <tmberg!tmberg@unaffiliated/tmberg> has joined #postfix[20:48:58] <TheFatherMind> Question: I have 163.com in my 'client' black list as a major spammer 555. But one of my clients business partners is mailing through them. Can I still leave 163.com in that list but somehow also make their mailing domain OK to allow just their mail through?[20:50:10] <patdk-lap> I never get spam from 163.com[20:50:16] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[20:50:16] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:50:16] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[20:50:18] <patdk-lap> I do get all the spam reports from them though[20:52:44] *** Gaaab <Gaaab!~Gaaab@95.233.165.118> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:53:15] <TheFatherMind> Okay then, on your word I will remove them from my blacklist.[20:58:43] *** Death_rattle__ <Death_rattle__!~death@200116b820f8360090c2df51a32e8673.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[20:59:44] <TheFatherMind> Note: If I get ANY spam from them... I am coming for you! I will not stop until my inbox has been avenged!!! Where are you again?[21:06:31] <patdk-lap> just be sure you aren't confusing the dmarc reports from them as spam[21:16:02] *** rsx <rsx!~rsx@ppp-46-244-255-23.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:18:26] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:18:26] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:20:12] *** foo <foo!~foo@unaffiliated/foo> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[21:32:25] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[21:32:26] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:32:26] *** Tarius <Tarius!~Tarius@unaffiliated/tarius> has joined #postfix[21:33:00] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> has joined #postfix[21:33:00] *** TariusWork <TariusWork!~Tarius@static-bband-146.87-197-178.telecom.sk> 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