February 26, 2017 
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February 26, 2017 [00:01:52] <LeMike> lunaphyte: I constantly do this as it is a docker container. Tear down everthing and build up again on debian 8.[00:04:57] <LeMike> It doesn't create "/var/spool/postfix/public/pickup" on its own. wtf[00:10:40] <pj> packaging issue[00:10:52] <pj> talk to the debian packager[00:11:15] <pj> although I tend to think that they would have found out about something like this ages ago.[00:12:11] <jimpop> i run debian and never had to create /var/spool/postfix/public/pickup[00:14:27] <pj> that said, this is an issue with the installation from the debian package. he needs to get support from debian for it, we can't really help with it here.[00:23:46] *** rocktop_ <rocktop_!~rocktop@41.143.74.89> has joined #postfix[00:24:04] <rocktop_> jaybe: because I have port 25 blocked[00:24:13] <rocktop_> I need to run emails on my server[00:24:28] <jaybe> rocktop_, gmail.com[00:25:09] <rocktop_> jaybe: gmail.com giving only 100 emails per day and overwrite headers[00:25:24] <jaybe> LeMike, that packaging/installation scripting creates as needed[00:25:26] <jaybe> rocktop, that's fine[00:26:09] <rocktop_> jaybe: it is not enough to meet my requirements[00:26:21] <jaybe> rocktop_, hotmail.com[00:26:32] <rocktop_> samething[00:26:37] <jaybe> rocktop_, yahoo.com[00:26:50] <rocktop_> :)[00:26:52] <jaybe> rocktop_, bestemail.com[00:26:59] <jaybe> rocktop_, spam4u.org[00:27:11] <rocktop_> hmm[00:27:47] <jaybe> what are you here looking for? this is #postfix[00:29:38] <rocktop_> jaybe: I don't find any suitable channel to ask , I am sorry for this[00:30:13] <jaybe> rocktop_, it's ok, but, "no- we don't have any 'free' SMTP servers for you to use"[00:30:41] <jaybe> visit google and search and do the work yourself to find someone to tell you 'no regarding the mass emails you wish to send out[00:30:51] <rocktop_> jaybe: not free[00:30:57] <rocktop_> paid no problem[00:31:02] <rocktop_> but not expinsive[00:31:06] <jaybe> rocktop_, it's ok, but, "no- we don't have any SMTP servers for you to use"[00:31:20] *** justingoy <justingoy!~justingoy@107.173.187.52> has joined #postfix[00:31:55] <rocktop_> I don't ask to give me a server I am just asking if someone here use SMTP relay from any company I am just looki,ng for advices[00:32:04] <jaybe> office.com[00:36:27] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host22-23-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[00:45:03] *** rocktop__ <rocktop__!~rocktop@41.250.102.164> has joined #postfix[00:48:00] *** rocktop <rocktop!~rocktop@41.141.2.38> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:49:22] *** rocktop__ <rocktop__!~rocktop@41.250.102.164> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:49:48] *** rocktop__ <rocktop__!~rocktop@41.250.102.164> has joined #postfix[00:51:46] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host22-23-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:54:49] *** Mac_Write <Mac_Write!~Mac@d23-16-14-93.bchsia.telus.net> has joined #postfix[00:55:01] *** froz-gab 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<archer121!~ubuntu@ec2-54-179-172-200.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[06:12:20] *** pinPoint <pinPoint!~pinPoint@about/windows/regular/pinpoint> has joined #postfix[06:12:58] <pinPoint> im curious. I have a letsencrypt cert/key for nginx. Can I assign the same certs to postfix/dovecot?[06:15:08] <rob0> of course[06:15:17] <rob0> !tls[06:15:17] <knoba> rob0: "tls" : Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). Previously known as SSL, TLS adds a layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, submission, IMAP or POP3 to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS is implemented using the STARTTLS method, while the non-standard wrapper style of implementation is deprecated at this point. See http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html for more info.[06:15:30] <rob0> see the "quick and dirty" section[06:16:01] <rob0> Dovecot wiki has a comparable page on TLS[06:18:14] <pinPoint> and how do I test that it is working? I know for http/https I can use ssllabs.[06:18:24] <pj> !s_client[06:18:24] <knoba> pj: "s_client" : Starting with OpenSSL 0.9.7, you can test the server-side TLS with the following: openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect <hostname>:587 (or :25, accordingly).[06:18:44] <pinPoint> interesting.[06:18:58] <rob0> !smtpd_tls_loglevel[06:18:59] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_tls_loglevel" : enable additional postfix smtp server logging of tls activity. each logging level also includes the information that is logged at a lower logging level.[06:19:08] <rob0> smtpd_tls_loglevel=1[06:19:29] <pj> s_client can test pretty much any TLS connection with the right options, so it will work for dovecot and https as well.[06:19:39] <rob0> also smtp_tls_loglevel=1[06:20:03] <pinPoint> ok.[06:20:04] <pj> well, yes, but you shouldn't be using a cert for smtp[06:20:19] <pinPoint> I shouldn't?[06:20:28] <pj> no, only for smtpd[06:20:48] <pinPoint> I currently have a private one running fine.[06:20:53] <rob0> right, but you might want to log that your smtp is using TLS[06:20:57] <pj> yes[06:21:15] <rob0> "smtp_tls_loglevel=1" is just one extra log line per TLS connection.[06:21:37] <rob0> both of those should default to 1, IMO[06:21:47] <rob0> but both default to 0[06:22:19] <rob0> Another default which ought to change, enable_long_queue_ids :)[06:22:40] *** drewland1 <drewland1!~drewski@2604:a880:800:10::11f:e001> has joined #postfix[06:24:31] *** JanC_ <JanC_!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[06:25:48] *** JanC is now known as Guest94020[06:25:48] *** Guest94020 <Guest94020!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[06:25:48] *** JanC_ is now known as JanC[06:26:15] *** Olipro_ <Olipro_!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has joined #postfix[06:26:37] *** cromag_ <cromag_!~cromag@irssi/user/cromag> has joined #postfix[06:26:44] *** MissAntroph <MissAntroph!~missi@unaffiliated/missantroph> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:27:18] <pinPoint> ok it sees letsencrypt with openssl[06:27:28] <pinPoint> question if its going to work sending emails. :D[06:27:39] *** beatdown_ <beatdown_!beatdown@violator.strangled.net> has joined #postfix[06:28:06] *** siska_ <siska_!~leeroy@loop0.nixnodes.net> has joined #postfix[06:28:53] <rob0> sending?[06:29:12] <rob0> Who are you sending to that asks for a client cert?[06:29:14] <pinPoint> i was afraid my changes would break it[06:29:37] <pinPoint> no one. I just wanted to be able to use letsencrypt[06:29:45] *** beatdown <beatdown!beatdown@violator.strangled.net> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[06:29:55] *** beatdown_ is now known as beatdown[06:30:03] *** Ekho- <Ekho-!~Ekho@unaffiliated/ekho> has joined #postfix[06:30:28] *** honestly_ <honestly_!~luke@unaffiliated/luketheduke> has joined #postfix[06:31:14] *** temik <temik!~temikus@do.saragosa.tv> has joined #postfix[06:32:10] <rob0> it won't have much effect on sending, as you should have only set it up as smtpd_tls_cert_file[06:32:30] <rob0> !smtp!=smtpd[06:32:30] <knoba> rob0: "smtp!=smtpd" : Postfix smtp_* and smtpd_* configuration parameters have different meanings. smtp_ = client and smtpd_ = server, the client-side sends mail whilst the server-side receives mail. (smtp = client = sends mail) (smtpd = server = receives mail)[06:32:59] <pinPoint> i did[06:33:11] <pinPoint> smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/mail.yourdomain.pem[06:33:12] <pinPoint> smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/mail.yourdomain.key[06:33:28] *** drewlander <drewlander!~drewski@2604:a880:800:10::11f:e001> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:28] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:28] *** siska <siska!~leeroy@opennic/siska> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:28] *** noxid <noxid!~noxid@unaffiliated/noxid> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:28] *** idl0r <idl0r!~idl0r@gentoo/developer/idl0r> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:28] *** cromag <cromag!~cromag@irssi/user/cromag> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:33:28] *** temikus <temikus!~temikus@do.saragosa.tv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:28] *** honestly <honestly!~luke@unaffiliated/luketheduke> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:29] *** Ekho <Ekho!~Ekho@unaffiliated/ekho> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:29] *** LaserAllan <LaserAllan!~Burn@campnorthernlight.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[06:33:46] *** Olipro_ is now known as Olipro[06:33:55] *** MissAntroph <MissAntroph!~missi@unaffiliated/missantroph> has joined #postfix[06:35:21] *** LaserAllan <LaserAllan!~Burn@campnorthernlight.com> has joined #postfix[06:38:43] *** Robby <Robby!robby@chillum.thcgirls.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:39:39] *** Robby <Robby!robby@chillum.thcgirls.com> has joined #postfix[06:45:45] <lunaphyte> the neverending parade of silly certificate and key fiename extensions[06:46:08] <pinPoint> heh[06:46:18] <pinPoint> that is just a sample but yes[06:47:18] <lunaphyte> when samples are done properly, the non samples follow ;)[06:48:55] <pinPoint> im curious. On a gmail emal send, my mail send from my box was marked as spam. I cleared it by marking it 'not spam', mail to inbox works. Now I tried another gmail account and its the same procedure all over again.[06:49:15] <pinPoint> I guess I was hoping that gmail would have started to trust my ip/hostname by now. I guess not.[06:51:13] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[06:52:41] *** DarkPsydeLord <DarkPsydeLord!~DarkPsyde@187.211.44.171> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:52:46] *** noxid <noxid!~noxid@unaffiliated/noxid> has joined #postfix[06:53:41] *** idl0r <idl0r!~idl0r@gentoo/developer/idl0r> has joined #postfix[06:53:55] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[06:55:05] <jaybe> trusting google <- first mistake[06:57:01] <pinPoint> they mark things as spam though. :/[06:58:41] <rob0> Your TLS cert, of course, had nothing to do with your mail being marked as spam.[06:59:22] <rob0> Seems to be a common misconception, to "fix" your TLS and you won't hit the spamfolders.[06:59:41] <pinPoint> indeed. Headers look exactly the same compared to self signed. so I dropped letsencrypt[07:00:03] <rob0> It's probably about your IP reputation and/or lack of fcrdns[07:00:14] <rob0> !fcrdns[07:00:15] <knoba> rob0: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[07:00:38] <pinPoint> rob0: rdns is fine[07:01:41] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:04:31] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[07:05:06] <patdk-lap> who said rdns?[07:05:27] <pinPoint> SUCCESS! - Forward Confirmed Reverse DNS is CORRECT![07:08:57] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:12:34] <pinPoint> thanks rob0 pj[07:12:37] <pinPoint> gn[07:19:07] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[07:30:21] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[07:31:40] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[07:55:08] *** Ekho- is now known as Ekho[07:57:57] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:09:17] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[08:21:38] *** Death_rattle <Death_rattle!~death@p200300868A7911010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[08:32:20] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:50:16] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[08:54:44] *** Mac_Write <Mac_Write!~Mac@d23-16-14-93.bchsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:08:39] *** FMan <FMan!~tropyx@dsl-kvlbrasgw2-50dcc3-5.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #postfix[09:10:02] *** mcfate <mcfate!~textual@174-134-145-16.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[09:17:04] *** PaulePan1er is now known as PaulePanter[09:23:53] *** Poster|z <Poster|z!~poster@cpe-65-185-37-0.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:24:39] *** Poster|z <Poster|z!~poster@cpe-65-185-37-0.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[09:38:58] <LeMike> Hi there / good morning. I now have two server running within the same (almost private) network. What would you suggest how app server (A) uses mail server (M) to send mails. receiving will come some day, not this year.[09:42:56] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:43:43] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@62-46-102-153.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:43:47] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[09:44:45] <honestly_> LeMike: you're probably looking for this: http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client[09:45:41] <honestly_> LeMike: but you should first familiarise yourself with http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html[09:47:06] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-16-184.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[09:52:21] <LeMike> Oh. Yes, thanks honestly_ . I am more concerned about the communication between the two server. Would you use smtp, imap or how do I make it a mail relay? Is a mail relay a good thing?[09:53:05] <LeMike> My knowledge so far is how to setup local mail transport and receive mails incl. imap and ssl. But it stops there and the rest is still magic for me.[09:54:45] <LeMike> oh. the "Postfix on a local network[09:54:49] <LeMike> " section is nice[09:56:43] <LeMike> omg. I get it. Sorry. Thanks! :D[10:18:49] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-56-54.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[10:22:21] *** Death_rattle <Death_rattle!~death@p200300868A7911010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:22:50] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[10:23:35] *** honestly_ is now known as honestly[10:32:09] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[10:33:56] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE75810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[10:36:06] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:36:06] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:59:11] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-16-184.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:00:43] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-21-161.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[11:14:28] *** julius <julius!~julius@mickeymouse.strangled.net> has joined #postfix[11:14:29] <julius> hi[11:15:40] <julius> got my simple domain mail setup working, send and receive. what if i want to host more than one domain on one server, in my vps web interface i can only set one reverse dns mapping...but thats needed for spam providers to accept my mail right?[11:22:08] <honestly> julius: no.[11:22:38] <honestly> julius: the mx record for the second domain just needs to point at your mail server[11:23:05] <honestly> it's the mail server's hostname that gets checked, not the mail domain[11:24:39] <honestly> this means that (if your server only has one IP address) you can't have the server use mail.example.com and mail.example2.com as hostnames - it doesn't mean you can't use your mail.example.com server to send and receive email for example2.com[11:25:02] <honestly> I hope that's not confusing :)[11:30:02] <julius> let me read that agian[11:54:57] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has joined #postfix[11:57:39] <pj> !tell LeMike nullclient[11:57:39] <knoba> LeMike: "nullclient" : (#1) a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details., or (#2) See http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client[11:58:18] <julius> but when i own example.com and example2.com, why couldnt i point those two to the same server adress? for http that would work...wouldnt it?[11:59:01] <pj> !Tell julius host!=domain[11:59:01] <knoba> julius: "host!=domain" : domain names (which appear after the '@' in email addresses and are used for the routing of email) are not the same as hostnames which are used to identify individual hosts on a network or the internet at large.[11:59:18] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[11:59:28] <pj> julius: it's the hostname that has to satisfy fcrdns, not hte domain names[11:59:35] <pj> !fcrdns[11:59:35] <knoba> pj: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. 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I've used inet_interfaces but it doesn't work for the ipv6 address because it's one of a /64 assigned to eth0. What's the best way to lock postfix to a single ipv6 address when a /64 has been assigned to eth0?[15:48:25] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[15:54:27] <rob0> put that address in inet_interfaces along with all the ipv4 addresses you want to use[15:55:00] <rob0> !inet_interfaces[15:55:00] <knoba> rob0: "inet_interfaces" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default, the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The parameter also controls delivery of mail to user at [ip dot address]. If your server does not react to connection attempts on a certain interface you should check this setting.[15:55:20] <rob0> see postconf.5.html#inet_interfaces[15:56:24] <Nit_> and put also that address on your network interface[15:58:28] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host22-23-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:58:55] <feisar> thanks, I did that, I listed both the ipv4 and ipv6 address I wanted to use after inet_interfaces but postfix gave the error: no local interface found for [my ipv6 address][15:59:00] <rob0> yes, they must all be bound. Note that this prevents wildcard binding for both protocols; the sockets will be ip.v4.add.ress:25, 127.0.0.1:25, et c. rather than 0.0.0.0:25[16:00:06] *** Death_rattle <Death_rattle!~death@p200300868A7911010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[16:00:13] <feisar> so if a /64 is assigned to eth0 I _should_ be able to place one ipv6 address from that /64 in inet_interfaces?[16:00:26] <rob0> Bad example, 127.0.0.1:25 should not be needed at all, use submission if accepting submission from localhost clients[16:02:11] <rob0> um, no, not if that specific address is not seen as a local address[16:02:34] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[16:03:39] <feisar> but if a /64 id assigned to eth0 are they not seen as local address (like the ipv4 address which is assigned?)[16:05:04] <feisar> so eth0 has one public ipv4 address on it and a /64 of ipv6 addresses. I can add the ipv4 address to inet_interfaces but not an address from the /64[16:07:18] <patdk-lap> feisar, how exactly do you assign a /64 to an interface?[16:07:22] <patdk-lap> that is extremely *odd*[16:07:59] <feisar> well, it's how my VPS came, but I _thought_ it was best practice for ipv6[16:08:18] <patdk-lap> ok, if you understand ipv4, how are you not understanding ipv6[16:08:28] <patdk-lap> when you assign a /24 with ipv4[16:08:35] <patdk-lap> do you assign 256 ip addresses to that ocmputer?[16:08:37] <patdk-lap> or just 1[16:09:13] <feisar> oh I see[16:09:39] <feisar> just the one[16:11:07] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@frozenstar.info> has joined #postfix[16:11:47] <feisar> what's confusing me slightly more in this case is that eth0 seems to have two /64s assigned but thanks, I think you've cleared up the Postfix config for me[16:14:27] <feisar> (my first stab at ipv6)[16:15:24] <Zerberus> fe80 is just local link[16:15:47] <feisar> yeah, but I do have two globals[16:16:43] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:16:56] <Nit_> and you probably can add a third and a fourth inside the /64 that is affected to you[16:17:30] <feisar> ok, thanks[16:17:49] <Nit_> in the same way that you can add multiples ipv4 on an interface[16:18:24] <Nit_> generally inside the same network (/24 for instance)[16:19:17] <feisar> as almost an aside, is inet_interfaces the best way to define which ip addresses Postfix will use (will it apply to my submission config in master.cf?)[16:21:03] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE75810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[16:26:09] <feisar> I mean, should I use smtp_bind_address instead?[16:46:34] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:c052:bf41:57f1:b269> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:50:42] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[16:52:32] *** pti-jean <pti-jean!~quassel@114.47.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[16:52:36] *** pti-jean___ <pti-jean___!~quassel@232.44.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:02:06] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[17:04:47] *** joulez <joulez!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[17:06:49] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:07:17] *** pti-jean__ <pti-jean__!~quassel@93.22.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[17:09:24] *** pti-jean <pti-jean!~quassel@114.47.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:10:52] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:19:42] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[17:19:42] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:19:42] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[17:24:58] *** Tykling <Tykling!tykling@gibfest.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:35:53] <LeMike> Hm. What file / config do I use when I want to permit some hosts in the network? Can't really figure it out.[17:38:23] <LeMike> nvm. I use "mynetworks" ;)[17:39:42] <lunaphyte> awful[17:39:47] <lunaphyte> you use smtp auth[17:39:54] <lunaphyte> mynetworks should be empty[17:41:07] <LeMike> oh. okay. thanks[18:03:06] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[18:08:01] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@frozenstar.info> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:09:43] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:22:45] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host22-23-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** pti-jean <pti-jean!~quassel@2.46.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[18:34:30] *** pti-jean__ <pti-jean__!~quassel@93.22.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:43:15] *** ovrstorm <ovrstorm!~ovrstorm@air.raid.io> has quit IRC (Quit: We're sorry, your call cannot be dialed as completed ...)[18:46:51] *** ovrstorm <ovrstorm!~ovrstorm@air.raid.io> has joined 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has joined #postfix[23:08:11] *** Chex <Chex!sss@leavingvegas.northnook.ca> has joined #postfix[23:08:58] <Chex> ok, I give up, can someone point me to a resource on how to setup STARTTLS on postfix smarthost, please?[23:09:39] <pinPoint> uhm[23:09:58] <Chex> postfix 2.9.6-2, debian 7.[23:10:03] <pinPoint> I used this link to get starttls on mine: https://skrilnetz.net/setup-your-own-mailserver/[23:10:10] <lunaphyte> Chex: that's right in the documentation[23:10:22] <lunaphyte> Chex: read starttls_readme[23:10:36] <lunaphyte> also, the term "smarthost" should not be used.[23:10:57] <lunaphyte> that's a sendmail specific term, and even there, is not really a very useful term to be using anyway[23:10:58] <Chex> Im looking at this, but it doesnt make sense: https://www.howtoforge.com/howto_postfix_smtp_auth_tls_howto[23:11:00] <pinPoint> do most of your use a front end website on the mailserver to check your email? eg. roundcube, squirrelmail?[23:11:13] <lunaphyte> Chex: for help with those web pages, you'll ned to contact their authors.[23:11:21] <lunaphyte> we help with the postfix documentation though[23:11:34] <Chex> ive been fighting with this for 2 days, and I still cant figure it out[23:11:55] <pinPoint> i've been at it for a week[23:11:58] <Chex> ive already read thru the starttls_readme docuemnt, only about half of it makes sense to me[23:12:09] <pinPoint> I got an instance at DO running mail in abox automagically.[23:12:12] <lunaphyte> !tell Chex getting_help[23:12:13] <knoba> Chex: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[23:12:30] <pinPoint> so I got another do instance and configured a mailserver manually, took two days but its working now.[23:12:50] <pinPoint> my IP has no reputation so I often end up in spam/junk. :/[23:13:12] <Chex> pinPoint: I feel your pain, brother. I am trying to relay thru a host that doesnt require TLS, but thats not working, either.[23:14:04] *** pti-jean__ <pti-jean__!~quassel@14.19.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:14:14] <pinPoint> yeah, that's a different setup. My boxes does not relay for anything out there.[23:14:22] <pinPoint> s/does/do[23:14:52] <pinPoint> so lunaphyte. What do you think about my question?[23:14:58] <Chex> lunaphyte: thanks, but I am not at the point where I want to start pasting configs and log files right now, just a general question if there is a webpage out there, step by step that documents how to setup STARTTLS. The opstfix docs are too technical for me, to understand[23:15:17] <Chex> lunaphyte: I am a SMTP newb, I know just enough to be dangerous.[23:15:29] <rob0> then proceed slowly[23:15:51] <pinPoint> Chex: that page I pasted up there is what I used. But you're at the mercy of the author. It worked for me though[23:15:56] <rob0> the "quick and dirty" section of TLS_README is not that difficult[23:15:58] <Chex> rob0: oh, I am going extremely slowly[23:16:00] <Chex> believe you me[23:16:15] * Chex reads TLS_README for the 4th time[23:17:06] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[23:21:40] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:23:01] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@frozenstar.info> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:26:02] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[23:29:27] <pinPoint> is there a way to improve my IP reputation without giving out details to the big corps like gmail/ms/yahoo/etc?[23:30:06] <jaybe> details?[23:30:18] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE75810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:30:22] <pinPoint> domain name[23:30:41] <thumbs> what's wrong with sharing domain names?[23:31:05] <pinPoint> because google knows everything...[23:31:09] <pinPoint> hey thumbs[23:31:23] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:31:26] <jaybe> clearly if they have an issue with your domain(s) and or IP, they are well aware[23:32:12] <pinPoint> yeah[23:33:03] *** ploop_ is now known as ploop[23:36:09] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host22-23-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[23:40:11] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[23:42:35] <rob0> sign up for dnswl.org[23:42:54] <rob0> DO NOT SEND [nor forward] ANY UBE[23:43:35] <rob0> then your IP reputation might improve somewhat[23:44:15] <pinPoint> ok[23:45:31] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:45:37] <pinPoint> thanks[23:48:45] <pinPoint> rob0: For email servers, is it necessary to use a CAcert? or is a self signed sufficient enough[23:53:17] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[23:59:55] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)