February 25, 2017 
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both will work?[02:07:09] <patdk-lap> why would you rewrite it?[02:27:17] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[02:28:22] *** caitnop <caitnop!~py@ool-1826e2f5.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:28:46] *** caitnop <caitnop!~py@ool-1826e2f5.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #postfix[02:58:29] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@d27-99-48-83.bla1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[02:59:28] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[03:04:36] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:13:57] *** gk_-1wm <gk_-1wm!~su@209.73.151.42> has joined #postfix[03:14:57] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:16:42] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[03:19:49] *** ckuehl <ckuehl!~ckuehl@raziel.ckuehl.me> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[03:26:28] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:29:13] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[03:30:43] *** gk_-1wm <gk_-1wm!~su@209.73.151.42> has quit IRC (K-Lined)[03:36:12] *** Nightwolf <Nightwolf!~Nightwolf@unaffiliated/nightwolf> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:36:43] *** Nightwolf <Nightwolf!~Nightwolf@unaffiliated/nightwolf> has joined #postfix[03:41:42] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:42:43] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[03:43:30] *** gk-------1__w__m <gk-------1__w__m!~su@50.118.147.36> has joined #postfix[03:44:27] *** gk-------1__w__m <gk-------1__w__m!~su@50.118.147.36> has quit IRC (K-Lined)[03:44:36] *** daniel331 <daniel331!~daniel@2a02:c7f:8c2d:d900:9bc:5d55:2e88:4c78> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:45:08] *** ckuehl <ckuehl!~ckuehl@raziel.ckuehl.me> has joined #postfix[03:48:31] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:48:53] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[03:51:29] <axisys> here are my configs[03:51:32] <axisys> http://dpaste.com/0GKS5KW[03:51:56] <axisys> I am on postfix 2.6.6[03:55:12] <rob0> did you say what the problem was?[03:55:36] <patdk-lap> !goal[03:55:36] <knoba> patdk-lap: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is[03:56:49] <axisys> I did on #amavisd-new .. it stays to 100% cpu the whole time.. so I wanted to find out how to fix that and lunaphyte suggested to unhook amavisd-new from postfix for a start to see if that changes anything[03:57:17] <axisys> I did not know how to unhook amavisd-new and he suggested to ask here[03:57:20] <rob0> oh, axisys was here hours ago, and I answered the question[03:57:33] <rob0> do you read what is posted in channel?[03:57:40] <axisys> rob0: you asked do use -r ?[03:57:46] <rob0> 19:48 UTC[03:58:18] <axisys> rob0: right.. I was trying to fix a ubuntu server for 4 hrs .. patdk-lap helped to fix that... hehe[03:58:31] <axisys> rob0: so had been every where.. :-)[03:58:45] <axisys> rob0: sorry for late response.. but I do have your replied[03:58:47] <axisys> replies*[03:59:06] <rob0> you have content_filter set ... if you don't want to use it, why is that set?[03:59:10] <axisys> 19:48:50 < rob0> axisys, ^^ see -r[03:59:36] <axisys> rob0: I do want to use it..[03:59:54] <axisys> rob0: but also dont want amavisd-new to not take 100% of 1 cpu[04:00:06] <axisys> rob0: but also dont want amavisd-new to take 100% of 1 cpu[04:00:18] <patdk-lap> what do you want it to do?[04:00:20] * axisys had to fix double neg[04:00:36] <patdk-lap> you want it to take 100% of 4 cpu?[04:00:36] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[04:01:00] <patdk-lap> the only way to make it take less, is to disable content scanning[04:01:01] <rob0> I don't not pay no attention never to no double negatives[04:01:18] <axisys> patdk-lap: I dont want it to take 100% of 1 cpu.. I only have 2 cpus.. and system is slow due to that[04:01:32] <axisys> it is a centos 6.x VM[04:02:07] <axisys> rob0: lol[04:02:27] <patdk-lap> well, nothing postfix can do about it[04:02:40] <patdk-lap> atleast if you want to use spamassassin or any virus scanning[04:03:01] <axisys> patdk-lap: that is why I started with #amavisd-new[04:03:20] <rob0> yeah, you're going to have to troubleshoot amavisd; Postfix isn't your problem[04:03:36] <axisys> patdk-lap: asking here to follow lunaphyte's direction on a breaking down the problem.. but I was away for too long[04:03:58] <patdk-lap> well, first I would check what you ahve installed for spamassassin[04:04:03] <patdk-lap> any addon rule files and stuff[04:05:16] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:06:22] <axisys> patdk-lap: default really[04:06:25] <axisys> patdk-lap: http://dpaste.com/16MS647[04:07:52] <patdk-lap> what OTHER files are in that folder?[04:08:30] <axisys> $ ls[04:08:30] <axisys> 99_local-whitelists.cf init.pre sa-update-keys spamassassin-helper.sh v310.pre v320.pre[04:08:33] <axisys> channel.d local.cf spamassassin-default.rc spamassassin-spamc.rc v312.pre v330.pre[04:08:53] <patdk-lap> hmm[04:09:06] <patdk-lap> you just receive too much mail then[04:09:15] <patdk-lap> vs the amount of cpu you have[04:09:42] <axisys> patdk-lap: so just up the number of cpus? It is a VM, so I can do that[04:09:56] <rob0> You could upgrade to 3.x and use postscreen to reduce the load on the filter.[04:10:17] <patdk-lap> axisys, well, what are the results?[04:10:20] <axisys> rob0: can I update in place?[04:10:25] <axisys> rob0: upgrade*[04:10:28] <patdk-lap> is most of the mail getting flagged as spam? or is it ligit?[04:10:40] <patdk-lap> if it's spam, you need to tune your postfix isntall, and upgrade to a newer version for postscreen[04:10:41] <axisys> patdk-lap: most are legits..[04:10:43] <patdk-lap> !cheatsheet[04:10:43] <knoba> patdk-lap: "cheatsheet" : (#1) http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control., or (#2) A postscreen cheatsheet can be seen at http://rob0.nodns4.us/postscreen.html (updated 2016-01-16, now requires Postfix 2.11+)[04:10:50] <patdk-lap> if it's all ligit, you have two options[04:11:08] <patdk-lap> add bypass rules for high traffic places that you want to bypass amavis completely[04:11:13] <patdk-lap> or just add more cpu[04:11:19] <axisys> patdk-lap: so I don't want mails coming from some domain to go through spam check or virus check[04:11:37] <patdk-lap> ok, so you want to add a bypass rule[04:11:42] <patdk-lap> that is simple[04:11:52] <axisys> patdk-lap: I dont think I know how to bypass virus check a domain[04:12:41] <axisys> patdk-lap: thanks for the cheatsheet.. I found Rob McGee's presentation in there..[04:13:03] <axisys> rob0: thanks for that presentation[04:13:52] <axisys> so spamassassin takes more resources than clamav?[04:14:24] <patdk-lap> lets see, I have this[04:14:52] <patdk-lap> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_client_access regexp:/etc/postfix/other/bypass_amavis.re, .......[04:15:18] <patdk-lap> then in that file you can add, FILTER smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10025[04:15:30] <patdk-lap> it will skip amavis and just refeed it right in as if nothing happened[04:15:38] <axisys> this is what I have[04:15:43] <axisys> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access, permit_mynetworks, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client multi.uribl.com, reject_unauth_destination[04:15:45] <patdk-lap> maybe rob0 knows how to empty the filter, I never could figure that out, if it is possible[04:15:52] <axisys> so just insert in there?[04:15:58] <patdk-lap> but what is in sender_access?[04:16:24] <rob0> check_sender_access before reject_unauth_destination is dangerous[04:16:24] <patdk-lap> I put it in first, but it's pressently commented out[04:16:28] <axisys> addresses that are allowed with OK and reject..[04:16:35] <rob0> ouch[04:16:59] * axisys disclaimer: newbie here[04:17:06] <rob0> "ok" means that any spammer using that sender address can use you as an open relay[04:17:13] <patdk-lap> never use OK[04:17:23] <axisys> rob0: that email address is internal[04:17:24] <patdk-lap> use permit_auth_destination, or whatever spelled right[04:17:38] <axisys> rob0: we don't want that email address to go through any test[04:17:57] <axisys> only one there for OK[04:18:05] <rob0> still, if a spammer had it and used it ...[04:18:30] <patdk-lap> axisys, who is the destination for those emails?[04:18:32] <axisys> rob0: gotcha.. right so they can fake that address.. understood[04:18:36] <patdk-lap> all local? or remote?[04:18:46] <axisys> patdk-lap: local and remote[04:18:50] <patdk-lap> heh[04:19:00] <axisys> mostly employees, but some vendors too[04:19:08] <patdk-lap> should use auth[04:19:25] <rob0> and submission[04:19:25] <axisys> patdk-lap: but I do not have any authentication setup..[04:20:54] <axisys> I am still trying to follow what is literal and what is place holder in your comments[04:20:58] <axisys> 03:14:52 < patdk-lap> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_client_access regexp:/etc/postfix/other/bypass_amavis.re, .......[04:21:01] <axisys> 03:15:19 < patdk-lap> then in that file you can add, FILTER smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10025[04:21:05] <axisys> 03:15:30 < patdk-lap> it will skip amavis and just refeed it right in as if nothing happened[04:21:28] <axisys> so have a text file /etc/postfix/other/bypass_amavis.re and in there literally type this[04:21:35] <axisys> FILTER smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10025[04:21:43] <patdk-lap> well, it depends on what you want to bypass[04:21:54] <patdk-lap> do you want to do it be ip address, from email address, to email address, ...[04:22:26] <axisys> or in my case FILTER amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10024 ?[04:22:35] <patdk-lap> no[04:22:40] <axisys> from email address[04:23:12] <patdk-lap> so you will use, check_sender_access regexp:/etc/postfix/bypass_amavis.re[04:23:20] <patdk-lap> then in bypass_amavis.re you would put[04:24:09] <patdk-lap> /my-bypass-sender at example dot com$/ FILTER amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10025[04:24:24] <patdk-lap> or you could not use regex to do it, it depends on the matching you want to do and how you want to do it[04:24:25] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:24:40] <axisys> gotcha[04:24:53] <patdk-lap> I mainly use it for my email alerts to bypass amavis, cause those need to come in fast, and for my *spam* feeds to bypass it[04:25:48] <axisys> I do not know if I have amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10025 ..[04:25:59] <patdk-lap> you do[04:25:59] <axisys> in master.conf i have this[04:26:02] <axisys> 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - n - - smtpd[04:26:20] <patdk-lap> yes, normally you are using 10024 to feed *amavis*[04:26:26] <patdk-lap> but we want to bypass amavis, so using 10025[04:26:55] <axisys> patdk-lap: sorry.. but I do not see that..[04:27:02] <axisys> patdk-lap: here are my configs[04:27:05] <axisys> patdk-lap: http://dpaste.com/0GKS5KW[04:27:38] <patdk-lap> yes, just do it the way I said it[04:27:45] <patdk-lap> it MUST be 10025[04:27:55] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:28:05] <axisys> line 65[04:28:15] <patdk-lap> yes[04:28:54] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:29:02] <patdk-lap> just like I said[04:29:13] <patdk-lap> your confusing the issue, as they are not related[04:29:36] <patdk-lap> we want to go out, using the amavisfeed line in master.cf[04:29:43] <patdk-lap> to go back into the 127.0.0.1:10025[04:29:52] <patdk-lap> therefor it MUST be FILTER amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10025[04:30:18] <patdk-lap> or if it makes you feel better[04:30:25] <patdk-lap> add this line:[04:30:36] <patdk-lap> bypassamavis unix - - n - 2 smtp[04:30:41] <patdk-lap> and copy lines 61 to 64 under it[04:30:57] <patdk-lap> and then use, FILTER bypassamavis:[127.0.0.1]:10025[04:37:42] <axisys> setup your original way..[04:37:58] <axisys> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_sender_access, regexp:/etc/postfix/bypass_amavis.re, hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access, permit_mynetworks, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client multi.uribl.com, reject_unauth_destination[04:38:14] <axisys> what would be for ip address and to email address ?[04:38:37] <axisys> removed the OK from sender_access[04:38:43] <patdk-lap> check_client_access regexp:/etc/postfix/bypass_amavis.re[04:38:51] <patdk-lap> no comma between access and regexp[04:38:52] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:39:06] <patdk-lap> !check_sender_access[04:39:06] <knoba> patdk-lap: "check_sender_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the MAIL FROM address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[04:39:10] <patdk-lap> !check_client_access[04:39:10] <knoba> patdk-lap: "check_client_access" : Search the named access database for the client name, parent domains, client address, or networks obtained by stripping least significant octets. Reject if the result is REJECT or [45]XX text . Permit otherwise[04:39:16] <patdk-lap> !check_recipient_access[04:39:16] <knoba> patdk-lap: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[04:39:26] <axisys> oops[04:39:50] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:40:22] <axisys> so i need two check_sender_access ?[04:40:38] <axisys> one for bypass and one for sender_access ?[04:40:43] <patdk-lap> yes[04:42:01] <axisys> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_sender_access regexp:/etc/postfix/bypass_amavis.re, check_sender_access /etc/postfix/sender_access, permit_mynetworks, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client multi.uribl.com, reject_unauth_destination[04:42:33] <axisys> nawp...[04:42:38] <axisys> now is right..[04:42:41] <axisys> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_sender_access regexp:/etc/postfix/bypass_amavis.re, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access, permit_mynetworks, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client multi.uribl.com, reject_unauth_destination[04:44:33] <axisys> patdk-lap: thank you again![04:47:22] *** pj <pj!~pj@centos/ops/pj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:49:31] <axisys> 03:16:25 < rob0> check_sender_access before reject_unauth_destination is dangerous[04:49:42] <axisys> so I am not sure why I have that as last[04:50:00] <patdk-lap> it's ok for some things, but not when using OK :)[04:50:11] <axisys> ah[04:50:15] <patdk-lap> but if you need to relay to OTHER mailservers, that would be why[04:50:35] <patdk-lap> reject_unauth_destination means only local mail gets past that command[04:50:36] <axisys> patdk-lap: sometime I do need to do that..[04:50:46] <patdk-lap> well, ones configured in mydestination, virtual domains or relay domains[04:51:08] <patdk-lap> those *should* be using submission though, with auth :)[04:51:10] <patdk-lap> !submission[04:51:10] <knoba> patdk-lap: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf[04:51:41] <patdk-lap> it would also simplify your amavis filtering to handle incoming email from others, vs outgoing mail from your users/servers[04:53:13] <axisys> so I need to have auth setup for emails I am sending to relay_domains and using this as my relay server?[04:53:24] <patdk-lap> no[04:53:38] <patdk-lap> relay_domains is for your own domains, that just happen to exist on another server[04:53:56] <patdk-lap> submission is for email from users, that you need to send to your domains or other peoples domains[04:54:02] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:55:11] <axisys> from users local to relaty server or external users?[04:55:33] <patdk-lap> all?[04:55:46] <patdk-lap> so many options :)[04:56:09] <axisys> s/relaty/relay/[04:57:04] <axisys> that pdf helped[04:57:05] <axisys> thanks[04:57:22] *** chachasmooth 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hello, I am looking to have postfix scan all outgoing mail. I installed clamsmtp[15:44:33] <Darkclaw66> I am following the instructions on this site https://www.linux.com/learn/using-clamav-kill-viruses-postfix but when I restart postfix, it's complaining about master.cf errors[15:46:22] *** iGeni_ <iGeni_!~textual@50702E2F.cm-14.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[15:47:04] <rob0> that's a file format error, see "man 5 master"[15:47:50] *** iGeni <iGeni!~textual@50702E2F.cm-14.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[15:48:33] <rob0> Also, I am less than thrilled with clamav. You can probably better detect malware sending through you with amavisd-new and spamassassin, with URIBL checks.[15:49:12] <Darkclaw66> I was hoping to use 2 birds with one stone because I am using clamscan to scan the system[15:49:17] <rob0> Rate limiting via policy service (postfwd or cbpolicyd for example) is another option.[15:49:23] <Darkclaw66> ok I really botched that analogy[15:50:19] <rob0> is this a theoretical protection, or are you dealing with a malware problem now?[15:51:20] <Darkclaw66> it's production server that is new. running tomcat, mysql. only thing it does with emails is send an email to users registering for a new account or requesting to reset their pw[15:52:17] <Darkclaw66> although the server doesn't receive mail and doesn't allow anything but the local server to send mail, thought it would be good protection to scan for the emails going to the users as a safety precaution[15:53:41] <rob0> php?[15:53:42] <Darkclaw66> I guess it could happen if let's say someone hacks the tomcat webapps[15:53:54] <rob0> or just java[15:53:59] <Darkclaw66> just java in this case[15:54:23] <rob0> that puts you several steps ahead of the most common attacks[15:56:02] <rob0> I still wouldn't have much faith in the ability of clamav to catch a compromise.[15:56:50] <rob0> The rate limiting idea is not appropriate, because there could be times tomcat could crank out a lot of legit mail.[15:57:42] <Darkclaw66> I could dump clamav and switch to amavis[15:58:50] <rob0> But amavisd-new and spamassassin + URIBL checks is still a good idea. And you don't have to dump clamav -- amavisd can use whatever scanners you have available.[16:00:26] <rob0> Take your time with the amavisd documentation. I bet you'd be safe to go live with it. Most compromises we see here are Windows users and php servers.[16:00:44] *** chris| <chris|!~ident@unaffiliated/chris/x-9333407> has quit IRC (Quit: Quit)[16:02:20] <rob0> in fact I have seen zero tomcat/java compromises here and on the postfix-users mailing list. 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have postfix running on a system (linux) with multiple addresses bound on eth0. if i configure postfix to listen on the the second address of that eth0 interface (inet_interfaces), will that address also be used for outbound smtp delivery?[20:19:15] <lunaphyte> maybe[20:19:20] <lunaphyte> your os will decide[20:36:58] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[20:37:01] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[20:51:48] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:51:48] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:53:31] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[20:53:34] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[20:58:34] *** heroux 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main.cf: An optional numerical network address that the SMTP client should bind to when making a connection.[21:27:51] <finster> well, that was the answer i was looking for apparently. thanks![21:44:08] *** sphenxes <sphenxes!~sphenxes@81-5-247-179.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[21:44:33] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has quit IRC (Quit: johnny56)[21:49:41] *** rocktop <rocktop!~rocktop@41.141.2.38> has joined #postfix[21:49:44] <rocktop> anyone know cheap SMTP relay service ?[21:54:23] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[21:56:22] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@73.33.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:57:40] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:58:06] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has joined #postfix[22:06:32] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has 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Anywhere.)[23:46:37] *** Internat <Internat!~nf@220.240.225.239> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:47:27] *** Internat <Internat!~nf@220.240.249.162> has joined #postfix[23:55:02] *** LeMike <LeMike!~LeMike@codebook.cc> has joined #postfix[23:56:33] <LeMike> Postfix doesn't like me. I only get errors like "postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory" (when using bsd-mailx) or "ls: cannot access /etc/postfix/main.cf.tmp: No such file or directory" (on dpkg-reconfigure)... What is happening here?[23:56:54] *** Internat <Internat!~nf@220.240.249.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:58:15] <lunaphyte> if it were me, i would back up my config, and completely remove and reinstall postfix