February 22, 2017 
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February 22, 2017 [00:03:38] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@73.33.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:22:19] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:31:03] *** rocktop__ <rocktop__!~rocktop@41.251.97.155> has joined #postfix[00:32:00] *** MacWinner <MacWinner!~Blah@192.77.239.202> has joined #postfix[00:34:24] *** rocktop_ <rocktop_!~rocktop@41.251.61.45> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:36:34] *** mrayzies <mrayzies!d8a58bdc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.165.139.220> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[01:23:25] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[01:24:07] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:f8d9:2f80:aa18:a096> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:24:40] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[01:37:49] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:39:26] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has joined #postfix[01:44:25] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[01:51:57] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[01:54:51] *** dh <dh!dh@bsd.ee> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:55:01] *** dh <dh!dh@bsd.ee> has joined #postfix[01:55:18] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@107-223-70-10.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:55:33] *** KaiForce_ <KaiForce_!~chatzilla@107-223-70-10.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[01:58:41] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[02:06:33] *** bjoe2k4 <bjoe2k4!bjoe2k4@2a03:4000:9:55::1> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[02:06:45] *** bjoe2k4 <bjoe2k4!bjoe2k4@2a03:4000:9:55::1> has joined #postfix[02:07:10] *** nyloc <nyloc!~quassel@darwin.nyloc.de> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[02:07:11] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[02:08:18] *** nyloc <nyloc!~quassel@darwin.nyloc.de> has joined #postfix[02:08:19] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has joined #postfix[02:17:08] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:18:21] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[02:19:29] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has joined #postfix[02:22:56] *** ujjain <ujjain!~ujjain@unaffiliated/ujjain> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:23:27] *** fellipe <fellipe!~fellipe@177.206.154.112.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #postfix[02:26:12] *** ujjain <ujjain!~ujjain@static.10.147.9.5.clients.your-server.de> has joined #postfix[02:26:12] *** ujjain <ujjain!~ujjain@static.10.147.9.5.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[02:26:12] *** ujjain <ujjain!~ujjain@unaffiliated/ujjain> has joined #postfix[02:27:34] <fellipe> Hi all. I am trying to use lmtp with dovecot as lda. Here is my main.cf: http://pastebin.com/F7d8mtyA . So, choose virtual_transport to avoid creating unix users right? Ok, I have a most basic plaintext file with the accounts in dovecot and their home at /var/vmail/%u and I still get "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table" Please help![02:29:25] <lunaphyte> i'd advise using relay_transport, rather than virtual_transport[02:29:41] <lunaphyte> !tell fellipe getting_help[02:29:41] <knoba> fellipe: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[02:30:14] <rob0> Here's what your error means:[02:30:20] <rob0> !unknown_local[02:30:20] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_local" : User unknown in local recipient table means that the recipient domain was found in $mydestination but the username was not found in local_recipient_maps (by default: users in /etc/passwd and aliases(5) in /etc/aliases).[02:30:45] <rob0> perhaps you did not see:[02:30:49] <rob0> !virtual[02:30:49] <knoba> rob0: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and mailboxes that do not require individual system accounts. See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[02:32:36] <fellipe> lunaphyte: hi! thanks in advance. Well, the dovecot how to tells to use virtual_transport or mailbox_transport. So will it works? relay_transport with lmtp?[02:33:18] <lunaphyte> most howtos suggest using virtual_transport, yes.[02:33:43] <lunaphyte> i believe relay_transport to be more appropriate, particularly when using lmtp[02:34:08] <fellipe> lunaphyte: interesting. let me try it now[02:34:34] <pj> fellipe: I would bet you likely have a warning in your logs about having the domain in both mydestination and virtual_domain_maps as well.[02:35:14] <rob0> v_mailbox_domains[02:35:22] <fellipe> lunaphyte: like this: relay_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp right?[02:35:43] <pj> postfix does not support putting a domain in more than one address class. In the case where you attempt to put it in both virtual and local then local takes precidence and it is ignored in the virtual class.[02:35:51] <pj> rob0: oops[02:36:27] <lunaphyte> fellipe: right[02:36:55] <fellipe> lunaphyte: same error[02:36:59] <pj> still not going to solve the problem as long as the domain is listed in mydestination.[02:37:13] <lunaphyte> yes, you need to solve the other problems too[02:37:18] <fellipe> lunaphyte: you can try sending mail now to jeison at mailing dot conntracktecnologia.com.br and see the bounce[02:37:19] <pj> fellipe: remove the domain from mydestination.[02:37:31] <fellipe> pj: ok, let me try[02:38:30] *** mactimes is now known as mactimes_[02:38:31] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@88.198.107.18> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:40:14] <rob0> If you're going to use relay_transport, see the "Relay domain class" in:[02:40:16] <fellipe> pj: now I get relay access denied[02:40:21] <rob0> !address_classes[02:40:21] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.[02:40:58] <lunaphyte> when using relay_transport, that means you also use relay_recipient_maps, instead of virtual_mailbox_maps[02:41:39] <pj> fellipe: well you want it to be a virtual domain, in that case it has to be listed in virtual_mailbox_domains and not listed in mydestination. Or you can do as lunaphyte is suggesting and list it in relay_domains instead.[02:42:04] <pj> but you need to understand what the different address classes are and how they work.[02:42:28] <pj> so please do read the link from the address_classes factoid that rob0 gave you above.[02:43:01] <fellipe> pj, lunaphyte, why I can send mail to root and not for the other users?[02:43:10] <fellipe> even with the domain at mydestination?[02:43:28] <pj> !tell fellipe getting_help[02:43:29] <knoba> fellipe: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[03:07:37] *** penrod <penrod!~chatzilla@mail.network1.ca> has joined #postfix[03:08:16] *** fellipe <fellipe!~fellipe@177.206.154.112.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:38:01] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has joined #postfix[03:39:02] *** MuffinMedic is now known as mrmuff[03:39:24] *** mrmuff is now known as MuffinMedic[03:40:03] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:41:18] *** MuffinMedic is now known as MrMuff[03:41:34] *** MrMuff is now known as MuffinMedic[03:54:10] *** fling <fling!~fling@fsf/member/fling> has joined #postfix[04:02:04] *** Cybertinus <Cybertinus!~Cybertinu@2a00:6960:1:1:3038:32ff:fe38:3433> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[04:02:13] *** Cybertinus <Cybertinus!~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl> has joined #postfix[04:11:43] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[04:16:32] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:19:55] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has quit IRC (Quit: That's all folks!)[04:24:07] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has joined #postfix[04:52:46] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:54:50] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[05:12:38] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[05:17:12] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:23:26] *** ponyofdeath <ponyofdeath!~vladi@cpe-76-172-86-115.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[05:38:42] *** pijiu <pijiu!~pijiu@unaffiliated/pijiu> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:52:31] *** jak2000 <jak2000!~jak2000@189.244.163.36> has joined #postfix[05:53:26] <jak2000> hi all, anyone configured a reverse dns? for gmail and hotmail receive emails?[05:57:01] <jak2000> actually i can send email to gmail (received) and to hotmail (not received)[06:13:11] *** JanC_ <JanC_!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[06:14:28] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[06:14:28] *** JanC_ is now known as JanC[06:17:19] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[06:22:12] <patdk-lap> hmm, you must for all email servers, so hopefully everyone has[06:22:23] <patdk-lap> !tell jak2000 fcrdns[06:22:23] <knoba> jak2000: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[06:28:17] <jak2000> my ip is: 79.143.190.196[06:29:52] *** jak2017 <jak2017!~jak2000@189.244.155.138> has joined #postfix[06:32:46] *** jak2000 <jak2000!~jak2000@189.244.163.36> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:36:58] *** dka <dka!~dka@1.52.59.85> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:47:40] *** jak2000 <jak2000!~jak2000@189.244.137.159> has joined #postfix[06:49:00] <jaybe> no one here (or most places) needs to/should know your ip address really[06:50:32] *** jak2017 <jak2017!~jak2000@189.244.155.138> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:15:42] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has quit IRC ()[07:21:48] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@62-46-97-121.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:23:17] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-153-113.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[07:32:43] *** RadoQ <RadoQ!~cheater@unaffiliated/radoq> has quit IRC 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seconds)[09:06:38] <thms> Here's a nice problem for you mailing guys. I have the same postfix/spam appliance/everything for two domain. Same SPF config. Same MX since same postfix.[09:06:55] <thms> Both domains send mail. One is in junk most of the time, the other no.[09:06:57] <thms> t*[09:07:07] <thms> Any idea ?[09:07:36] <thms> I had to call a destination to tell them to whitelist the domain but that's just not do-able as we all know[09:07:51] <thms> if anyone ever encountered i'd be interested to hear about how you solved this[09:12:56] *** jak2000 <jak2000!~jak2000@189.244.137.159> has quit IRC ()[09:16:20] *** NTQ <NTQ!~nicolas@ip5f58b564.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[09:28:42] *** damyan^ <damyan^!damyan@mail.0x4711.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:33:09] <rjsalts> thms: the domains reputation is bad?[09:35:09] <rjsalts> thms: if you're doing spf/dkim/etc then google at least will get more granular reputation than ip address if the email authenticates against your dkim/spf policy[09:35:10] *** damyan^ <damyan^!damyan@mail.0x4711.org> has joined #postfix[09:35:44] <rjsalts> thms: and they base reputation on how many times in the last few days their recipients clicked the "This is spam" button[09:36:19] <rjsalts> I think many of the big webmail providers have similar schemes[09:36:34] *** damyan^ <damyan^!damyan@mail.0x4711.org> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:37:38] *** damyan^ <damyan^!damyan@mail.0x4711.org> has joined #postfix[09:39:41] *** Hoffe <Hoffe!~Hoffe@office01.innocore.dk> has joined #postfix[09:40:17] *** Hoffe <Hoffe!~Hoffe@office01.innocore.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:40:30] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has joined #postfix[09:42:51] <thms> rjsalts, I thought domain don't matter.[09:43:07] <thms> Whenevr UI check in blacklists they convert the doamin to IP before making a search.[09:43:41] <thms> rjsalts, it's not against gmail though I don't know the situation with gmail[09:46:55] <thms> All the blacklist tools are analysing the IP which sound kind of right since you can forge any domain. There is no DKIM but SPF is here. 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The log I receive is: http://pastebin.com/saZEC80M What the problem come from?[11:46:55] <Zerberus> Krapulat: locally submitted, uid 33 is certainly your webserver - shut it down immediately[11:47:08] <petn-randall> Krapulat: Sounds like you caught some malware on that system. I'd take it offline and inspect the disk.[11:49:12] <Krapulat> Zerberus, petn-randall: how can I inspect the disk for malware? each website?[11:49:56] <Zerberus> Krapulat: search your webserver's logs to find the weak form or application[11:50:09] <petn-randall> Krapulat: Go through the webserver's access logs, and look in the webserver's directory for files that don't belong there.[11:51:31] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@213-225-14-144.nat.highway.a1.net> has joined #postfix[11:55:40] *** blizzkid <blizzkid!~mc@load/crew/blizzkid> has joined #postfix[11:59:15] <blizzkid> Hi all. Been configuring postfix to send over gmail, but I keep getting "warning: hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd is unavailable. open database /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd.db: No such fil". I'm on Fedora 25. ls -lZ shows -rw-------. 1 postfix root unconfined_u:object_r:postfix_etc_t:s0 12288 Feb 22 11:10 sasl_password.db. I've tried different chown/chmod's, all to no avail... I'm completely stuck here, and[11:59:21] <blizzkid> have the feeling it's something very simple I'm overlooking. Any ideas?[12:05:18] *** john51 <john51!~john@15255.s.t4vps.eu> has joined #postfix[12:07:45] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@d58-110-1-9.bla1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:13:03] *** blizzkid <blizzkid!~mc@load/crew/blizzkid> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[12:15:35] <Krapulat> Zerberus, petn-randall: Thanks… I’ve resolved it[12:17:05] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@213-225-14-144.nat.highway.a1.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[12:32:46] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:33:47] *** Cybertinus <Cybertinus!~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[12:34:25] *** Cybertinus <Cybertinus!~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl> has joined #postfix[12:40:06] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@73.33.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[12:42:23] <nobud> Xpasta from #amavis, since related: I understand my current (pretty much vanilla, as shipped with kolab) configuration is far from optimal (http://pastebin.com/M8bqFmUm, http://pastebin.com/LMxetbw4, http://pastebin.com/78fPdRx9). I want amavis to sign outgoing messages as the final step (after they've been processed by sa and wallace), otherwise the signatures seem to get invalidated (post-sig mod). Where do I look to reorder the cur[12:43:29] *** MissAntroph <MissAntroph!~missi@unaffiliated/missantroph> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:44:32] <nobud> i'm talking about DKIM signing[12:44:56] *** MissAntroph <MissAntroph!~missi@unaffiliated/missantroph> has joined #postfix[12:46:04] <petn-randall> Krapulat: What was it?[12:47:41] <Krapulat> petn-randall: a file in a WordPress web. I suppose someone discovered the password of one of the admins[12:49:00] <nobud> Krapulat: nice :)[12:55:56] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~quassel@HSI-KBW-109-193-056-181.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:00:50] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[13:01:20] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~quassel@HSI-KBW-109-193-056-181.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #postfix[13:02:48] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:03:55] <natan64> ehlo localhost[13:05:14] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@d58-110-1-9.bla1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[13:05:44] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:10:41] *** joulez <joulez!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[13:13:40] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@d58-110-1-9.bla1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:24:40] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:25:32] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[13:26:40] <petn-randall> Krapulat: That wordpress was up-to-date?[13:28:08] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE75A82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:30:00] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:31:22] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[13:31:22] *** cinap_lenwok <cinap_lenwok!~cinap_len@89-186-156-12.dynamic.primacom.net> has joined #postfix[13:32:08] *** cinap_lenwok <cinap_lenwok!~cinap_len@89-186-156-12.dynamic.primacom.net> has left #postfix[13:32:46] <patdk-lap> without bad plugins or themes[13:32:57] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@91-115-166-47.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[13:34:59] *** dxtr <dxtr!~dxtr@unaffiliated/dxtr> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[13:35:23] *** dxtr <dxtr!~dxtr@unaffiliated/dxtr> has joined #postfix[13:36:13] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:36:44] *** dxtr <dxtr!~dxtr@unaffiliated/dxtr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:37:06] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[13:37:37] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:37:47] *** PaulePanter <PaulePanter!~paul@mail.gw90.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:37:53] *** dxtr <dxtr!~dxtr@unaffiliated/dxtr> has joined #postfix[13:37:55] *** cinap_lenrek <cinap_lenrek!~cinap_len@89-186-156-12.dynamic.primacom.net> has joined #postfix[13:38:06] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.46.97> has joined #postfix[13:38:27] <cinap_lenrek> i would like to force tls for outgoing relay on postfix[13:38:38] <cinap_lenrek> as we use tls client certs for authentication[13:38:53] *** roukoswarf <roukoswarf!znc@rouk.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:38:54] *** dxtr <dxtr!~dxtr@unaffiliated/dxtr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:38:55] <cinap_lenrek> currently, postfix will retry if tls fails (for whatever reason)[13:39:09] <cinap_lenrek> which usually results in the rejection of mails[13:39:18] *** dxtr <dxtr!~dxtr@unaffiliated/dxtr> has joined #postfix[13:39:45] *** dxtr <dxtr!~dxtr@unaffiliated/dxtr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:39:48] <cinap_lenrek> i tried to set smtp_tls_enfoce but that breaks everything as it internally talks to itself[13:40:02] *** dxtr <dxtr!22824c2b@unaffiliated/dxtr> has joined #postfix[13:40:41] <cinap_lenrek> basically, it should not try to speak tls to 127.0.0.1[13:41:01] <cinap_lenrek> only when talking to the relay host[13:41:07] *** roukoswarf <roukoswarf!znc@rouk.org> has joined #postfix[13:41:14] <cinap_lenrek> i found smtp_tls_policy_maps but that seems clunky[13:42:04] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:42:15] *** d0nn1e <d0nn1e!~d0nn1e@cpe-24-167-140-225.triad.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:42:36] <patdk-lap> !smtp_tls_security_level[13:42:36] <knoba> patdk-lap: "smtp_tls_security_level" : The default SMTP TLS security level for the Postfix SMTP client; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtp_use_tls, smtp_enforce_tls, and smtp_tls_enforce_peername. Specify one of the following security levels: none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.[13:42:44] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[13:42:51] *** Olipro <Olipro!~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro> has joined #postfix[13:43:32] *** PaulePanter <PaulePanter!~paul@mail.gw90.de> has joined #postfix[13:43:53] *** d0nn1e <d0nn1e!~d0nn1e@cpe-24-167-140-225.triad.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[13:44:28] <cinap_lenrek> hmmm... maybe i'm going about this the wrong way[13:44:50] <cinap_lenrek> theres this tls wrapped smtp port[13:44:57] <cinap_lenrek> that doesnt use starttls[13:45:04] <patdk-lap> !smtps[13:45:04] <knoba> patdk-lap: "smtps" : Port 465 is smtps, SMTP over SSL, a deprecated means of submission. This means that smtps should *not* be used, and that this factoid exists for historical purposes only and should not be implemented. See !submission for smtps' successor. That being said, Postfix can implement smtps with a separate smtpd(8) listener with \"-o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes\". See the commented example in master.cf.[13:45:14] <cinap_lenrek> if i can setup postfix to use that, then theres no way for it to fall back to unencrypted[13:45:16] <cinap_lenrek> thats what i want[13:45:50] <cinap_lenrek> yeah, the server has smtps open i think[13:46:54] <cinap_lenrek> how do i specify the relay to use smtps?[13:47:08] <patdk-lap> I'm not sure it's even supported at all[13:47:20] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:47:47] <cinap_lenrek> relayhost = [smtp.yourisp.com]:PORT[13:47:50] <cinap_lenrek> hmmm[13:48:35] *** prooz_ is now known as prooz[13:48:46] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[13:49:26] <cinap_lenrek> ok... so i have to use tls policy maps to specify that just the relay tls shouldnt fall back on unencrypted connection?[13:53:01] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~quassel@HSI-KBW-109-193-056-181.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[13:55:13] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~quassel@prx2.ernw.net> has joined #postfix[14:00:52] <patdk-lap> why? you send to other hosts than the relay?[14:01:22] <dxtr> !getting_help[14:01:22] <knoba> dxtr: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[14:01:30] <dxtr> !relevant_logs[14:01:30] <knoba> dxtr: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[14:01:53] <dxtr> !showconfig[14:01:53] <knoba> dxtr: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[14:03:44] *** cinap_lenrek <cinap_lenrek!~cinap_len@89-186-156-12.dynamic.primacom.net> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[14:04:03] *** cinap_lenrek <cinap_lenrek!~cinap_len@89-186-156-12.dynamic.primacom.net> has joined #postfix[14:04:24] *** geo27_ <geo27_!~quassel@81.56.141.30> has joined #postfix[14:04:32] *** cinap_lenrek <cinap_lenrek!~cinap_len@89-186-156-12.dynamic.primacom.net> has left #postfix[14:04:36] *** geo27 <geo27!~quassel@81.56.141.30> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[14:04:36] *** Chinorro <Chinorro!~Chino@2a01:4f8:120:9332::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:04:36] *** MissAntroph <MissAntroph!~missi@unaffiliated/missantroph> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[14:04:57] *** cinap_lenrek <cinap_lenrek!~cinap_len@89-186-156-12.dynamic.primacom.net> has joined #postfix[14:05:03] <cinap_lenrek> sorry, irc crapped out[14:05:05] *** Chinorro_ <Chinorro_!~Chino@2a01:4f8:120:9332::2> has joined #postfix[14:05:06] *** MissAntroph <MissAntroph!~missi@unaffiliated/missantroph> has joined #postfix[14:06:03] <cinap_lenrek> ok, so do i have a chance using smtps relay with postfix or is the only way to enfoce tls encryption for the relay host only using smtp_tls_policy_maps?[14:06:29] <dxtr> I'm having an interesting issue. When postfix is receiving mail it is looking up like it should in virtual_alias_maps and it gets 1 result but then it seems like it's just discarding it. my postconf: http://pastebin.com/UdvxXvVJ log: http://pastebin.com/GLYF2e71[14:07:36] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[14:08:05] <dxtr> So dovecot complains that the user doesn't exist[14:11:21] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:11:52] <lunaphyte> cinap_lenrek: use submission+starttls for encryption. not smtps. you can require encryption for submission+starttls with smtp_tls_policy_maps[14:13:43] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has joined #postfix[14:14:23] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE75A82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[14:15:31] <cinap_lenrek> ok, thanks[14:16:05] <cinap_lenrek> lunaphyte: what exactly do you mean by submission+tls?[14:16:23] <lunaphyte> i never said submission+tls[14:16:31] <cinap_lenrek> yes, starttls[14:16:42] <lunaphyte> yes[14:21:23] *** Dominian <Dominian!~dominian@opensuse/member/dominian> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[14:23:30] *** Dominian <Dominian!~dominian@opensuse/member/dominian> has joined #postfix[14:28:56] <lunaphyte> dxtr: relay_domains = $mydestination - dont' do that[14:29:00] <lunaphyte> *don't[14:29:45] *** mikecmpb_ <mikecmpb_!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[14:30:38] <dxtr> lunaphyte: Speaking of that; how would I relay $mydestination? :p[14:30:48] *** Krapulat <Krapulat!~Krapulat@250.red-88-1-154.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Krapulat)[14:30:52] <lunaphyte> i'm not sure waht you mean, you wouldn't.[14:31:01] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:31:13] <lunaphyte> "relay to $mydestination" doesn't make sense[14:31:30] <dxtr> I want to "relay $mydestination to"[14:31:48] <rob0> try describing your goal in non-technical terms[14:31:51] <lunaphyte> tbh, aside from your specific question, there is a lot of yuckiness in that config :([14:32:12] <dxtr> lunaphyte: Please do inform me :)[14:32:30] <dxtr> I am genuinely curious because I'd like to not have a yucky config[14:32:31] <lunaphyte> my wag is you should just take whatever's listed in mydestination, and move it to relay_domains[14:32:58] <lunaphyte> well, we can get into that, but one thing at a time :)[14:33:12] <dxtr> Sure![14:33:20] <dxtr> I got all day :p[14:33:27] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@hq.experiencepoint.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:33:58] <lunaphyte> i don't see a virtual_alias_maps rewrite indicated in your logs[14:34:15] *** mikecmpb_ <mikecmpb_!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:34:36] <lunaphyte> pastebin postmap -q 'addressinquestion' pgsql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/pgsql/aliases.cf[14:34:45] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@hq.experiencepoint.com> has joined #postfix[14:34:57] *** john51_ <john51_!~john@15255.s.t4vps.eu> has joined #postfix[14:35:25] <dxtr> lunaphyte: http://pastebin.com/ZsPFa8ju[14:36:12] <dxtr> Sending mail to dxtr at emacs dot church works[14:36:36] <dxtr> I can give you a more verbose log if you want.[14:37:00] *** john51 <john51!~john@15255.s.t4vps.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:39:43] *** _val_ <_val_!~val@freebsd/user/val> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[14:45:07] <rob0> won't help[14:47:30] <dxtr> right[14:47:54] <rob0> sigh, what is wrong with a SINGLE pastebin? Why do you insist on making it more difficult to help you?[14:48:27] <rob0> anyway, in the logs I see some funky -o syslog_name overrides[14:48:35] <dxtr> Because last time I posted a lot of data people bashed me for making one large pastebin :p[14:48:47] <lunaphyte> here? who?[14:48:55] <rob0> then ask those people to help[14:48:56] <dxtr> This was months ago, can't remember[14:49:27] <dxtr> Ah, yes. Those syslog_names are leftovers from earlier today when I tried to figure stuff out[14:50:01] <dxtr> Removed them now[14:53:46] <rob0> the usual format is postfix/something[14:54:11] <rob0> where "something" indicates what sort of nonstandard service it is[14:56:45] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:7ed1:c3ff:fe75:a966> has joined #postfix[14:58:15] <nobud> Please consider my pasta from amavis> I'm running a postfix/amavis combo as shipped with kolab, which I'm told has its issues due to repeat SMTP re-submission, but it does work and I like the idea of queuing therein. 'tis http://pastebin.com/M8bqFmUm, http://pastebin.com/LMxetbw4, http://pastebin.com/78fPdRx9. I want DKIM signatures on (submitted) outgoing messages, for which I hooked opendkim using [non_]smtpd_milters and all is well[14:58:20] <nobud> are signed 3 times (see said re-submission). Where and how I should hook opendkim to make sure messages are signed just before going out?[14:59:26] <lunaphyte> great. now i'm hungry[14:59:33] <lunaphyte> why did you have to mention pasta?[15:01:10] <dxtr> rob0: Hold on, doing a new paste[15:01:43] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[15:02:57] <nobud> lunaphyte: :) I'll buy you lunch for sorting me out the other day...[15:02:58] *** wally`[ <wally`[!446e7cc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.110.124.199> has joined #postfix[15:03:33] <nobud> lunaphyte: it was because i pasted most of what i said there[15:05:03] *** infides_afk is now known as infides[15:05:33] <dxtr> http://pastebin.com/X8Fsgb4J[15:05:41] <dxtr> There's a new paste with a slightly updated config[15:06:36] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:07:05] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br> has joined #postfix[15:07:41] <rob0> I'm pretty confident that the problem is related to one or more of the:[15:07:51] <rob0> !receive_override_options[15:07:51] <knoba> rob0: "receive_override_options" : (default: empty) - Enable or disable recipient validation, built-in content filtering, or address mapping. Typically, these are specified in master.cf as arguments for the smtpd(8), qmqpd(8) or pickup(8) daemons. See: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#receive_override_options[15:08:56] <rob0> also,[15:09:06] <rob0> !enable_long_queue_ids[15:09:06] <knoba> rob0: "enable_long_queue_ids" : Enable long, non-repeating, queue IDs (queue file names). The benefit of non-repeating names is simpler logfile analysis and easier queue migration (there is no need to run postsuper to change queue file names that don't match their message file inode number). See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#enable_long_queue_ids[15:09:14] <rob0> enable_long_queue_ids=yes[15:09:51] <dxtr> rob0: You are probably correct[15:10:59] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[15:12:14] <dxtr> In fact you are correct. I wonder why I decided to add that.[15:12:18] <lunaphyte> nobud: set up the milter for only the final smtpd[15:12:58] <dxtr> lunaphyte: So bash away at my config :)[15:13:14] <wally`[> If anyone is familiar with milter and wants to take a look at this error msg, i appreciate it: http://pastebin.com/fmJb1DaV[15:13:33] <dxtr> rob0: Thanks! I actually looked for that option before but I completely forgot master.cf[15:14:01] <nobud> lunaphyte: wow, it's. so. obvious. just wow. thanks[15:16:01] <patdk-wk> nobud, then why are you in here asking for help?[15:20:52] <nobud> patdk-wk: I wan't being sarcastic, sorry if it seemed like that. I actually didn't see the solution until lunaphyte pointed it out :)[15:21:22] <patdk-wk> ok[15:21:37] <bweston92_> Rather then having to use a unix socket to filter can I use a pipe?[15:26:59] <rob0> Huh? That would depend on your filter software, and maybe why you're filtering.[15:27:26] <bweston92_> rob0 ok, I'm planning on sending the e-mail off over HTTP[15:27:41] <bweston92_> I was going to use a content filter, that sends it[15:28:03] <bweston92_> But I want to disrupt postfix to continue as usual after[15:28:35] <cinap_lenrek> sl_: thank you! :)[15:28:45] <cinap_lenrek> sl_: i like the cover picture[15:29:38] *** Krapulat <Krapulat!~Krapulat@250.red-88-1-154.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #postfix[15:29:54] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has joined #postfix[15:30:37] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~quassel@prx2.ernw.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:32:46] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:7ed1:c3ff:fe75:a966> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:34:41] *** cinap_lenrek <cinap_lenrek!~cinap_len@89-186-156-12.dynamic.primacom.net> has left #postfix[15:38:56] <lunaphyte> dxtr: did you get your alias issue figured out?[15:39:26] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[15:39:27] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[15:39:31] <dxtr> lunaphyte: I did[15:39:37] <lunaphyte> good[15:39:51] <lunaphyte> did you get rid of stuff in mydestination?[15:39:57] <dxtr> I did[15:40:45] <lunaphyte> ah, good[15:41:00] <dxtr> http://pastebin.com/YsNNQcKy[15:41:06] <dxtr> There's my current config[15:41:10] <lunaphyte> the next thing i'd do is get rid of redundant settings[15:41:15] <lunaphyte> !tell dxtr redundant[15:41:15] <knoba> dxtr: "redundant" : the following can be used to list redundant settings defined in main.cf: (postconf -d; postconf -n) | sort | uniq -d - also see !compare[15:42:05] *** tharkun <tharkun!~0@187.190.62.81> has quit IRC (Changing host)[15:42:05] *** tharkun <tharkun!~0@unaffiliated/tharkun> has joined #postfix[15:45:11] <dxtr> Done[15:45:56] <lunaphyte> next i'd condense all restrictions into smtpd_recipient_restrictions, and i'd set smtpd_relay_restrictions to empty[15:47:12] <dxtr> May I ask why?[15:47:27] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:47:54] <rob0> As is, you're accepting submission for relay on port 25. You should not. Submission and smtp (MX) should be completely separate.[15:48:27] <lunaphyte> there's no benefit to separating them. it just makes things mroe confusing[15:49:16] <dxtr> right[15:49:43] <lunaphyte> restrictions, that is. not submission and mx. submission and mx should absoltely be separate, like rob0 says[15:49:49] <rob0> no benefit to separating *restrictions* :)[15:50:18] <dxtr> Alright then[15:50:25] <patdk-wk> there is, if you want less infomation logged, to make troubleshooting very difficult[15:50:51] <rob0> if you need a challenge :)[15:50:54] <lunaphyte> dxtr: for additional context, see smtpd_delay_reject[15:50:59] <patdk-wk> if say, you reject at helo, you cannot troubleshoot why x at example dot com cannot email you[15:51:51] <dxtr> lunaphyte: Should that be yes or no?[15:51:59] <dxtr> I thought of that one earlier today[15:52:01] <lunaphyte> it should be left at the default, yes[15:52:19] <lunaphyte> which is the main reason there's no value in spreading out restrictions[15:52:22] <dxtr> right[15:53:20] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[15:53:53] <dxtr> My config is smaller already :p[15:54:25] <lunaphyte> yay :)[15:54:42] <lunaphyte> next, get rid of the silly encryption constraints in your global config[15:54:57] <lunaphyte> that sort of thing is only appropriate for submission where encryption is mandatory[15:55:09] *** wally`[ <wally`[!446e7cc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.110.124.199> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:55:14] <dxtr> http://pastebin.com/D73jzBPy[15:56:27] <dxtr> But I have the same costraints everywhere :([15:56:33] <dxtr> constraints[15:56:41] <lunaphyte> everywhere?[15:56:59] <dxtr> Everything that uses TLS[15:57:02] <lunaphyte> what's everywhere?[15:57:24] <dxtr> web servers, irc servers, you name it[15:57:32] <lunaphyte> www is not email[15:57:52] <lunaphyte> did you follow some "helpful" advice on someone's web site about "securing" things?[15:58:40] <dxtr> Actually, no.[15:58:59] <lunaphyte> well, that's good[15:59:05] <lunaphyte> it's typically the case here[15:59:42] <lunaphyte> either way, it's not appropriate for an mx[16:00:00] <lunaphyte> it makes the state of encryption worse, not better[16:01:38] <dxtr> My reasoning was among the lines of "TLS is available and I can pick the ciphers I like and trust - why not use it?". The end goal is to shut off smtp altogether[16:02:17] <dxtr> err, smtp without encryption[16:02:42] <lunaphyte> you cannot[16:02:56] <dxtr> Can I not?[16:03:03] <dxtr> I admit I didn't look that far[16:03:04] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host22-23-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:03:53] <petn-randall> lunaphyte: You *can*, but then you have to live with mails getting lost. :)[16:04:25] <dxtr> The point was that I can live with that :p[16:04:33] <lunaphyte> i doubt it[16:06:15] *** NTQ <NTQ!~nicolas@ip5f58b564.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:09:12] <rob0> I should process my logs to see how many non-TLS were received[16:09:35] <lunaphyte> requiring encryption from internet mail servers would be in violation of the standards which define email[16:09:43] <lunaphyte> yes, of course, you *can* do it.[16:09:48] <lunaphyte> but you will lose email.[16:10:14] <patdk-wk> I know many large companies that enforce tls on all email, but it depends on who you want email from[16:10:21] <lunaphyte> and you can be reasonably confident that it *will* be mail that matters, eventually.[16:11:47] <rob0> Enforcing cipher restraints on SMTP is likely to just result in more non-TLS mail received.[16:11:54] <lunaphyte> yup[16:14:58] <petn-randall> I'm not arguing against that. Just pointing out that at least in Germany many mail providers switched to requiring encryption for ingress and egress mail.[16:15:46] <petn-randall> And then they called it "e-mail made in Germany" (no joke!): http://www.e-mail-made-in-germany.de/[16:24:01] <rob0> current logs, smtpd_tls_loglevel=1, 367 of those logged for port 25[16:24:12] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~quassel@prx1.ernw.net> has joined #postfix[16:24:41] <rob0> and the initial "connect from" line, 1040 of those.[16:26:45] <rob0> so the question is, how much of the 673 resulted in accepted mail, and of those, how many were not spam[16:27:48] *** infides <infides!~infides@p4FE75A82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:31:30] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:32:42] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE75A82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[16:35:48] <rob0> hmm. Just visually scanning through the log, Dovecot mailing list does not appear to use TLS. Other few non-TLS I saw were rejected.[16:39:54] <patdk-wk> odd[16:40:17] <patdk-wk> for today so far, I have had 1168 connect, and 943 TLS[16:43:15] <rob0> aha, I know what to do: "... warn_if_reject reject_plaintext_session"[16:44:45] <patdk-wk> :)[16:46:18] *** infides_afk is now known as infides[16:53:01] <rob0> I put that in end-of-DATA restrictions, because at end of DATA, it's pretty much accepted at that point[16:53:37] <rob0> so in a week or two I'll have some real stats to look at[17:02:38] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:02:59] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.2.99> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:03:56] *** Krapulat <Krapulat!~Krapulat@250.red-88-1-154.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Krapulat)[17:06:56] *** krijt <krijt!~krijt@mail.vertrouwdverbonden.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:07:28] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:09:49] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@91-115-166-47.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye Bye)[17:15:13] *** Krapulat <Krapulat!~Krapulat@250.red-88-1-154.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #postfix[17:17:39] *** Tacoder <Tacoder!~DarkPsyde@189-211-207-228.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[17:17:42] *** Krapulat <Krapulat!~Krapulat@250.red-88-1-154.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:18:22] *** MarcWeber <MarcWeber!~marc@mawercer.de> has joined #postfix[17:20:38] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~quassel@prx1.ernw.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:23:22] *** ExoUNX <ExoUNX!~textual@rrcs-74-62-110-254.west.biz.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:31:50] *** Tacoder is now known as DarkPsydeLord[17:45:43] *** NTQ <NTQ!~nicolas@p4FC731B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[17:49:34] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:55:56] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[17:57:55] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p200300868A1D5B010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[18:09:33] <rob0> Initial results of reject_plaintext_session: would hit ESPs hard. I see Mailchimp, Mailgun and Exact Target there.[18:13:06] *** ExoUNX <ExoUNX!~textual@rrcs-74-62-110-254.west.biz.rr.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:13:06] *** ExoUNX <ExoUNX!~textual@unaffiliated/exounx> has joined #postfix[18:17:13] *** Death_rattle <Death_rattle!~death@p200300868A1D5B010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[18:18:16] <rob0> listrak also[18:19:40] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p200300868A1D5B010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:20:53] <rob0> In fact all of my initial results seem to be from DNSWL.org-listed 127.0.15.0[18:29:20] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[18:48:02] *** guampa <guampa!~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa> has joined #postfix[18:55:50] <rob0> nope, now vger.kernel.org and earlgrey.xfce.org ... reject_plaintext_session is a no-go here.[19:01:44] *** Death_rattle__ <Death_rattle__!~death@p5494EBA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[19:04:43] *** 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seconds)[19:40:08] *** guampa <guampa!~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:49:32] *** guampa <guampa!~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa> has joined #postfix[19:51:56] <Zerberus> rocktop__: because your SASL server side isn't configured to provide a mechanism the MUA is able to talk[19:57:26] <rocktop__> Zerberus: I follow this guide https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/email-with-postfix-dovecot-and-mysql-on-centos-6[20:00:10] <Zerberus> rocktop__: and you fully understand it?[20:03:36] <rocktop__> Zerberus: yes I understand it[20:03:49] <rocktop__> I done everything as requested[20:04:11] <Zerberus> then you should be able to debug the SASL part[20:04:55] <Zerberus> how is your MUA configured regarding AUTH?[20:06:34] <rocktop__> Zerberus: hmmm what is MUA mean ?[20:06:53] <Zerberus> mail user agent - the mail client[20:07:28] <rocktop__> Zerberus: yes I use it as smart host[20:07:58] <Zerberus> !tell rocktop__ getting_help[20:07:58] <knoba> rocktop__: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[20:10:50] <rocktop__> Zerberus: this is postfix configuration https://bpaste.net/show/d491ed19d382[20:11:09] *** M-schmittlauch <M-schmittlauch!schmittlau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-uehfoqqkjytawihh> has left #postfix[20:11:50] <Zerberus> sorry, not willing to read that - please follow the factoids[20:12:37] *** synthro__ <synthro__!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:16:20] <rocktop__> !showconfig factoids[20:16:20] <knoba> rocktop__: Error: "showconfig" is not a valid command.[20:24:55] *** RadoQ <RadoQ!~cheater@unaffiliated/radoq> has joined #postfix[20:25:14] *** MarcWeber <MarcWeber!~marc@mawercer.de> has left #postfix[20:27:01] <rob0> 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