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[09:31:54] <linuxlove> hi
[09:32:19] <linuxlove> when i login to squirrmail i just see a blank page what is problem ?
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[09:35:02] <linuxlove> anyone here?
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[09:41:18] <Zerberus> linuxlove: inspect the log of your webserver - your issue is unrelated to Postfix
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[13:02:20] <rocktop_> I would like to install postfix and use it as relay SMTP server can any one help about that ?
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[13:18:08] <Zerberus> rocktop_: which part of the documentation is unclear?
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[13:36:55] <patdk-lap> !tell rocktop_ basic
[13:36:55] <knoba> rocktop_: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
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[16:39:49] <xok> hello all...
[16:39:56] <xok> I've got a strange problem...
[16:40:12] <xok> there are two postfix systems sitting on the different locations...
[16:40:25] <xok> one server sends an email to the secod one...
[16:40:49] <xok> the logs say message has been sent ( 250 OK )...
[16:40:58] <xok> but the second server doesn't receive the email...
[16:41:20] <xok> I've got "connect from" and then "disconnect"...
[16:41:33] <xok> can anyone help me figure out what's wrong?..
[16:41:47] <rob0> yep, that's strange
[16:42:20] <rob0> connect/disconnect is all that's logged on second?
[16:42:22] <petn-randall> xok: Sounds like you're not connecting to the 2nd server, but to something else that happily accepts mails.
[16:42:33] <rob0> yep, a proxy, MITM
[16:42:59] <xok> but on the second server I see the "connect from" shows correct IP...
[16:43:06] <xok> the connection has been established...
[16:43:21] <rob0> it could be a firewall-level proxy
[16:44:36] <rob0> show non-verbose logs from both, of ONE missing mail
[16:45:37] <rob0> chances are, the postfix/smtp log line from First will show a non-Postfix reply supposedly from Second.
[16:47:53] <xok> what do you mean by non-verbose log?..
[16:48:30] <xok> to=<xok at imgzavre dot ge>, relay=mailer.imgzavre.ge[188.93.95.226]:25, delay=27, delays=0.03/0.01/3.3/24, dsn =2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 129dffb8-f84d-11e6-975b-a789825c7a3c)
[16:48:46] <xok> this is from first server, the one that says message has been sent...
[16:49:14] <xok> https://i.imgur.com/Ds79PMp.png
[16:49:20] <xok> this is the second server...
[16:49:32] <rob0> oh I can't view an image in lynx, why not text?
[16:49:42] <tuxick> prolly sexchange ;p
[16:49:47] <rob0> Anyway that's definitely NOT a Postfix reply
[16:52:04] <xok> here is the part from the second server: Feb 21 10:47:38 imgzavre postfix/smtpd[20748]: D05686022FD: client=unknown[191.101.225.132]
[16:52:07] <rob0> I get a normal-looking banner from there, "220 mailer.imgzavre.ge ESMTP Postfix"
[16:52:14] <xok> and the secod line: Feb 21 10:48:02 imgzavre postfix/smtpd[20748]: disconnect from unknown[191.101.225.132]
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[16:52:26] <xok> imgzavre.ge is working fine...
[16:53:11] <xok> we've got a problem with this first machine, 191.101.225.132
[16:54:16] <rob0> Again: the reply you showed from mailer.imgzavre.ge is absolutely not a Postfix reply. You're talking to some other software.
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[17:24:19] <xok> rob0: I talked with the service provider and they are telling me there are no softwares in the middle...
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[17:33:09] <xok> can anyone help me fix the issue?..
[17:33:20] <xok> I am really struglling from this issue...
[17:33:40] <xok> the postfix server reports email has been sent and delivered...
[17:33:51] <rob0> Nevertheless, "129dffb8-f84d-11e6-975b-a789825c7a3c" is not a Postfix queue ID. You'll have to dig and find what is intercepting it.
[17:33:53] <xok> but on the other side emails are not being delivered...
[17:34:33] <rob0> look at routers, especially "smart" ones (which often do stupid things)
[17:35:19] <xok> I use a VPS provider...
[17:35:29] <xok> the system is a regular VPS system...
[17:35:32] <Dominian> That almost looks like qmail..
[17:35:43] <xok> and the service providers are saying there's nothing in between...
[17:35:53] <Zerberus> btw. 188.93.95.226 is missing rDNS
[17:35:53] <rob0> no, qmail had no hyphens in the ID
[17:36:00] <Dominian> ah yes
[17:36:17] <Xentil> How can i do that
[17:36:20] <xok> Zerberus: yes, but that system works without flaws...
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[17:36:51] <xok> we're having problems with 191.101.225.132
[17:36:57] <Zerberus> 191.101.225.132 as well has no rDNS
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[17:37:07] <rob0> Xentil, do *what* in particular? Did you ask a question?
[17:37:10] <xok> it doesn't send emails...
[17:37:32] <Dominian> I'm guessing we haven't seen relevant logs?
[17:37:40] <Xentil> rob0: hehe, ok, i will explain. So...
[17:37:41] <Dominian> and I'm too lazy to scroll back
[17:37:52] <xok> Zerberus: yes, but we should be able to send with IP only...
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[17:38:00] <xok> Dominian: in a minute, I will provide logs i a minute..
[17:38:01] <Xentil> rob0: i have postfix server with amavis and spamassassin, and...
[17:38:05] <rob0> Dominian, logs are here in channel, yes
[17:38:18] <Dominian> k
[17:38:35] <xok> Feb 21 11:30:55 tmf postfix/cleanup[5769]: C169140BF6: message-id=<20170221163055.C169140BF6 at tmf dot localdomain> Feb 21 11:30:55 tmf postfix/qmgr[5735]: C169140BF6: from=<root at tmf dot localdomain>, size=420, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Feb 21 11:31:20 tmf postfix/smtp[5737]: C169140BF6: to=<xok at imgzavre dot ge>, relay=mailer.imgzavre.ge[188.93.95.226]:25, delay=25, delays=0.02/0/3.5/21, dsn=2. 0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 20c4fabe-f853-11e6
[17:38:42] <xok> I am sorry for puting this here..
[17:38:55] <xok> I apologize, I will not do that anymore...
[17:39:03] <Xentil> rob0: my spam goes to some system quarantine folder but i want them go to my Spam folder on my webmail
[17:39:15] <Xentil> rob0: How can i change that ?
[17:39:21] <xok> Dominian: this is from the server which doesn't work...
[17:39:29] <xok> it reports the email has been sent...
[17:39:30] <Dominian> Looks like it worked to me
[17:39:31] <rob0> ^^ and that was truncated, the non-Postfix receiver's queue ID was 129dffb8-f84d-11e6-975b-a789825c7a3c
[17:39:40] <xok> Dominian: yes, that's the problem...
[17:39:41] <rob0> oh, different message
[17:39:48] <Dominian> xok: it's not reporting anything as 'sent' the other server 250 Ok'd and accepted the email
[17:39:51] <xok> Dominian: I m going to show you the log from that imgzavre.ge server...
[17:39:57] <Dominian> There' no reason to
[17:40:09] <Dominian> The LOG you just posted, the receiving server accepted the message
[17:40:11] <Dominian> you're done.
[17:40:16] <xok> Feb 21 11:30:58 imgzavre postfix/smtpd[1411]: connect from unknown[191.101.225.132] Feb 21 11:30:59 imgzavre postfix/smtpd[1411]: 8C0096022FD: client=unknown[191.101.225.132] Feb 21 11:31:21 imgzavre postfix/smtpd[1411]: disconnect from unknown[191.101.225.132]
[17:40:21] <xok> Dominian: that's the problem...
[17:40:33] <xok> Dominian: I own the recipient server too...
[17:40:45] <Dominian> Yep. but all I se eis logs
[17:40:46] <xok> and the communication is dropped...
[17:40:52] <Dominian> where's the relevant main.cf settings etc?
[17:41:03] <Dominian> and pleae don't paste them here
[17:41:05] <xok> ok, tell me what you want?..
[17:41:10] <xok> I will not... :D
[17:41:10] <Dominian> !getting_help
[17:41:10] <knoba> Dominian: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
[17:41:13] <rob0> read the /topic
[17:41:13] <Dominian> ^^^^^
[17:41:15] <Dominian> read that
[17:41:21] <Dominian> then continue on, all you're doing is confusing us
[17:41:23] <Dominian> and yourself
[17:41:31] <xok> ok...
[17:41:39] <Dominian> and rob0 knows way more than I do about this stuff and if he's confused, there's a major fuckin' problem
[17:41:42] <Dominian> lol
[17:41:51] <xok> got it... :-D
[17:41:58] <Zerberus> any sane configuration would reject "from=<root at tmf dot localdomain>"
[17:42:10] <rob0> I'm not confused :) I know it has been intercepted by something which was not Postfix
[17:42:21] <Dominian> rob0: aye
[17:42:21] <rob0> but I am not believed
[17:42:28] <xok> rob0: you are!...
[17:42:41] <xok> but I don't know how to tell that to the service provider..
[17:42:54] <xok> they are ensuring me there's nothing in between...
[17:42:57] <rob0> the ONE possible Postfix issue could be
[17:43:04] <rob0> !smtpd_procy_filter
[17:43:04] <knoba> rob0: Error: "smtpd_procy_filter" is not a valid command.
[17:43:09] <rob0> !smtpd_proxy_filter
[17:43:09] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_proxy_filter" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The hostname and TCP port of the mail filtering filter proxy server. The proxy receives all mail from the Postfix SMTP server, and is supposed to give the result to another Postfix SMTP server process.
[17:43:17] <Dominian> hrm
[17:43:33] <Dominian> rob0: is this the IP you were testing : 188.93.95.226
[17:43:37] <Dominian> that's receiving the email
[17:43:40] <Dominian> ?
[17:44:15] <Dominian> xok: the MX for imgzavre.ge is mailer.imgzavre.ge which is 188.93.95.226
[17:44:29] <rob0> xok, show them the logs on both sides and point out that the "queued as 129dffb8-f84d-11e6-975b-a789825c7a3c" could not have been from Postfix.
[17:44:30] <xok> yes, but we're not dealing with that...
[17:44:40] <Dominian> Yes.. we are xok
[17:44:44] <Dominian> rob0 is correct
[17:44:52] <xok> ok, got you..
[17:44:56] <Dominian> You have an ASA at the remote end don't yo u?
[17:44:58] <xok> I will show both logs ...
[17:45:01] <Dominian> or some other firewall
[17:45:11] <rob0> on one end, there is a filtering firewall
[17:45:15] <Dominian> yep
[17:45:21] <Dominian> there's a firewall filtering port 25 on the remote en
[17:45:23] <Dominian> d
[17:45:24] <xok> rob0: the imgzavre.ge has no firewall..
[17:45:26] <Dominian> I just tested it
[17:45:30] <Dominian> I get : 220 ****************
[17:45:34] <Dominian> that's a firewall
[17:45:42] <Dominian> xok: dude.. listen..
[17:45:53] <Dominian> xok: when you send to whatever at imgzavre dot ge it looks up the MX record
[17:46:00] <Dominian> which the mx record is mailer.imgzavre.ge
[17:46:02] <Dominian> that's where the email is going
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[17:46:10] <Dominian> which is 188.93.85.226
[17:46:12] <xok> yes, but that's just for testing...
[17:46:25] <xok> tell me a test server and I will send an email there...
[17:46:34] <xok> the issue is not on the imgzavre.ge side..
[17:46:47] <xok> because wherever I send emails from this machine it gets nowhere...
[17:46:54] <xok> but the logs say message has been sent...
[17:47:04] <xok> I tried, gmail, I tried mailer testers...
[17:47:09] <xok> port25 address too...
[17:47:17] <xok> and they simply do not get an email from me...
[17:47:31] <xok> finally I decided to check it with my another working mail server...
[17:47:35] <xok> just to check logs...
[17:47:49] <Dominian> Well, good luck.. I'm being pulled into a meeting
[17:48:00] <xok> and found out that the server is just disconnecting without delivering email..
[17:51:13] <rob0> it seems that Dominian found a Cisco PIX/ASA banner, but I found a normal one.
[17:52:35] <rob0> Therefore the Cisco isn't getting ALL the traffic to 188.93.95.226, only SOME of it
[17:53:11] <rob0> but it does seem to be an issue on that end, so that ^^ network provider is the one to talk to.
[17:53:35] <xok> rob0: can you tell me mail server address and I will send a message to that...
[17:53:45] <xok> you'll see it's not an imgzavre.ge problem...
[17:53:54] <xok> because this server will never send you a message..
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[17:56:22] <rob0> What I have seen is that SOME traffic to 188.93.95.226 port 25 is being intercepted by a Cisco proxy router.
[17:57:02] <rob0> and apparently my own mail host is not hitting the Cisco, because I got a normal banner.
[17:57:58] <rob0> Time now for YOU to do some work. What banner do YOU get when connecting from the sending host to 188.93.95.226:25?
[17:57:58] <patdk-wk> I don't see a cisco
[17:59:23] <xok> rob0: the problem is with this machine: 191.101.225.132
[17:59:41] <xok> it sends email, reports everything went fine but emails are not delivered...
[17:59:58] <xok> no matter if you send emails to 188.* or somewhere else...
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[18:00:08] <rob0> Change your banner, now it seems to be default: "smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP Postfix greets you"
[18:00:20] <rob0> then "postfix reload"
[18:01:02] <rob0> then YOU test from 191.101.225.132 and see what banner you get
[18:01:20] <rob0> then I can test from here and [probably] see the changed banner
[18:02:12] <xok> done...
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[18:03:15] * patdk-wk sees no change
[18:03:17] <rob0> no, did you reload?
[18:03:19] <Dominian> my bad!
[18:03:27] <Dominian> It's our ASA here at work intercepting the outbound traffic
[18:03:29] <Dominian> :P
[18:03:31] <rob0> ahhhhhhhhh
[18:03:34] <Dominian> carry on!
[18:03:37] <xok> rob0: yes, now reloaded...
[18:03:43] <xok> rob0: I've added "xok" ...
[18:03:44] <rob0> well TURN OFF THAT STUPID FIXUP
[18:03:55] <xok> you mean "xok" thing?.. :D
[18:04:22] <rob0> 220 mailer.imgzavre.ge xok ESMTP Postfix
[18:04:43] <xok> yes, I've removed that "xok" text now...
[18:06:59] <xok> rob0: so, what else could cause the issue?..
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[18:07:22] <rob0> 17:01 < rob0> then YOU test from 191.101.225.132 and see what banner you get
[18:08:18] <xok> I get the changed version...
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[18:11:19] <rob0> Xentil, that seems to be an amavisd question, not a Postfix one.
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[18:12:10] <rob0> xok, 16:43 < rob0> !smtpd_proxy_filter
[18:12:23] <rob0> "postconf smtpd_proxy_filter"
[18:13:01] <xok> rob0: that configuration is empty...
[18:13:09] <rob0> if that comes up empty (and is not set in master.cf),
[18:13:25] <rob0> ... I can only suggest raising a problem ticket with one or both providers, giving them the information as already described.
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[18:18:26] <mrayzies> Recently switched from postfix 2.11.0-1 to 3.1.0-3 and I'm getting compatibility messages in the log. Unlike the examples (http://www.postfix.org/COMPATIBILITY_README.html) though, my log messages are not showing me which options are the problem. Anyone have ideas on how I might be able to diagnose which settings are tripping the warning?
[18:18:27] <rob0> Oh, it could also be a software firewall on either machine. (BTW *all* firewalls are software, but I digress.)
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[18:18:47] <xok> rob0: yes, but they are both turned off...
[18:19:04] <xok> rob0: if you have a mail server available somewhere I will send you a message...
[18:19:27] <rob0> oh, you have it's name all over your logs :)
[18:20:00] <rob0> it's the MX for Slackbuilds.org, and I am rob0 (imagine that!)
[18:20:41] <rob0> grrr u'seles's apo'strophe's
[18:20:52] <xok> rob0: sorry, I couldn't understand...
[18:21:08] <xok> I am not native English speaker, could be my problem...
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[18:23:23] <xok> rob0: sending you an email... :-D
[18:24:01] * petn-randall still ponders if the name is pronounced "rob zero" or "rob-o".
[18:24:18] <xok> rob0: sent, but I am sure you will not get it...
[18:24:43] <xok> petn-randall: I think it's "rob zero", just like "sub zero" from Mortal Kombat... :-D
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[18:27:18] <rob0> petn-randall, I'll answer to either. I also have a friend from the other Georgia (CSA, a/k/a .ga.us) who calls me "Rob-ought".
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[18:29:36] <rob0> xok, postscreen deferred you, then smtpd did also because of no PTR.
[18:30:03] <rob0> but it's definitely logged. You (or a proxy?) got to me.
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[18:31:59] <rob0> xok, logs from smtpd coming in /msg ... 3 log lines
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[18:36:44] <rob0> xok, now we know you connected to me; it seems the proxy has to be somewhere on the 188.93.95.226 side.
[18:37:06] <xok> rob0: thank you very much!...
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[19:49:48] <pj> mrayzies: if you're just getting the generic message, (warning: To disable backwards compatibility use "postconf compatibility_level=2" and "postfix reload), then you should be fine to set compatibility_level to 2 and reload. That said, it would pay to double check the various settings listed in COMATIBILITY_README.
[19:50:03] <pj> *COMPATIBILITY_README
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[19:59:03] <mrayzies> pj: I'll double check the listed settings to make sure, thanks
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[20:44:53] <schmittlauch> Hi there, I'm trying to debug a SASL-login issue, can anybody help me with that? I can currently login via KMail and via roundcube (which runs @localhost on the server), but if I try to send a mail via ssmtp it fails with "unknown user", although the user definitely exists https://www.systemli.org/paste/?e4060c7de1d0c943#+5cmSlfeLr7qHfFCRNvImSICchF1YZAOK0sHradN/u8=
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[20:48:32] <testpil0t> try to append the domain for ssmtp
[20:48:44] <testpil0t> if you didnt try yet
[20:51:18] <pj> schmittlauch: you're poking at the wrong tree, postfix just passes the data directly to dovecot SASL. You need to debug this in dovecot. Ask for help in #dovecot.
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[20:53:56] <schmittlauch> pj: The thing is: All these 'match_*: unknown' lines don't appear if I manage to login via KMail or roundcube. So I thought maybe something similar to sender/recipient restrictions may be the fault. I just don't know where to begin
[20:55:11] <testpil0t> check the dovecot log, if you see anything there
[20:55:19] <testpil0t> as you see, the "unknown user" message comes from dovecot
[20:57:24] <schmittlauch> poth dovecot and postfix log to the same file, so it's already included there
[20:59:41] <schmittlauch> what I'm wondering: Where do lines like '2017-02-21T20:16:01.873130+01:00 olli-suse-main postfix/submission/smtpd[28387]: match_list_match: unknown: no match' come from? They're definitely from postfix and don't appear when logging in works
[20:59:57] <pj> schmittlauch: they come from verbose logging which you really don't need.
[21:00:45] <schmittlauch> pj: so -vv for submission is not necessary for debugging?
[21:00:49] <pj> no
[21:01:08] <pj> and all of that comes *after* dovecot shows that there is no username match.
[21:02:11] <pj> all that postfix does is it takes the string passed in the AUTH PLAIN command and passes it directly to dovecot. Dovecot then parses taht string for username and password and it's dovecot that is determining that the username does not exist and passes that info back to postfix.
[21:02:20] <pj> so your debugging needs to be in dovecot.
[21:02:44] <pj> the real issue is that you're passing an incorrect username from the client, though.
[21:02:53] <pj> but if you want more details you need to check with dovecot.
[21:04:26] <pj> sorry, I said AUTH PLAIN but your client is actually using the LOGIN auth type, but the principal is the same.
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[21:04:27] <schmittlauch> pj: Ok. May I bother you with one last thing - a comparison of a successful login with the unsuccessful one? I'm providing th same username in both cases - when using ssmtp via the -auusername parameter
[21:10:27] <schmittlauch> pj: Last attempt: the comparison of both. If you can't spot anything, I'll be off to #dovecot https://www.systemli.org/paste/?e13ebad488bbb007#M/0H0fQs9Jyrx+b6n4/Wqfzl4lavbNSpVWbs8eLyXto=
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[21:12:56] <pj> schmittlauch: I can tell you you are passing "username" as your username, and I can tell you what the password is that you're passing, btw.
[21:13:43] <pj> and I can also tell you that the successful login is using the PLAIN mech type, and the unsuccessful one is using LOGIN, although that is not really your problem.
[21:14:19] <schmittlauch> pj: about the password: I know, I'll just change it afterwards. The username should apparentyl not be "username" though
[21:14:29] <schmittlauch> weird
[21:15:20] <pj> schmittlauch: that said, while it's nor your problem I would not recommend using the LOGIN mech type, disable that and just use PLAIN.
[21:16:26] <schmittlauch> pj: The problem is that my client wants to use ssmtp which only knows LOGIN. But I guess they'll just have to use mailx instead
[21:16:42] <rob0> hmm, really?
[21:17:08] <pj> I would be surprised if it doesn't know PLAIN
[21:17:21] <rob0> LOGIN is just a crude variation of PLAIN, makes no sense if one can do LOGIN and not PLAIN
[21:17:40] <pj> but if you indeed have to support a client that only knows LOGIN then I would go ahead and allow LOGIN. Just be certain that is the case.
[21:17:40] <rob0> I think only older Microsoft clients are like that
[21:18:23] <schmittlauch> from the manpage "Specifies mechanism for SMTP authentication. (Only LOGIN and CRAM-MD5)"
[21:18:36] <rob0> weird.
[21:18:42] <schmittlauch> yes, indeed
[21:18:49] <rob0> LOGIN won't hurt, as pj says.
[21:19:00] <rob0> but make sure you enabled it
[21:19:27] <pj> it's enabled, his issue is that it's passing "username" as the username
[21:19:32] <rob0> Dovecot SASL won't offer LOGIN by default
[21:19:37] <pj> so he obviously has ssmtp mis-configured.
[21:19:37] <rob0> oh
[21:20:21] <schmittlauch> another question: What does the string at the end of "[<-] 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6" stand for? Another password I need to change?
[21:22:05] <pj> no
[21:22:33] <pj> it's the "Password:" prompt.
[21:22:54] <schmittlauch> pj: encoded somehow
[21:22:56] <pj> you can translate those strings with the base64 or openssl base64 command, btw.
[21:23:05] <schmittlauch> ah, base64
[21:23:06] <pj> right, theya re all base64 encoded.
[21:23:33] <pj> $ base64 -d <<<"UGFzc3dvcmQ6" ----> Password:
[21:24:13] <schmittlauch> I guess I'll try again later with mailx and PLAIN auth instead of ssmtp
[21:24:20] <schmittlauch> thank you for your time
[21:24:52] <pj> schmittlauch: I'll repeat one more time, though, your issue is that ssmtp is literally passing "username" for the username.
[21:25:20] <pj> try specifying the username with the -au command line switch.
[21:26:04] <pj> also if you want a replacement for ssmtp, I recommend you use msmtp.
[21:26:14] <pj> mailx is not a direct replacement.
[21:26:30] <pj> !msmtp
[21:26:30] <knoba> pj: "msmtp" : a nullclient program which provides a means for a computer to submit mail to an existing msa. see http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/ for more info. also see !nullclient_software, !nullclient and !msa
[21:26:40] <schmittlauch> pj: I changed that I guess. But this didn't help
[21:26:59] <schmittlauch> Where in the logs did you find the "username" issue? So I can check
[21:27:10] <pj> well, use the base64 command to see what the strings are that are being passed back and forth.
[21:27:41] <schmittlauch> pj: The thing is, I have a working configuration for mailx for another account on that server
[21:27:44] <pj> 2017-02-21T20:16:01.887297+01:00 olli-suse-main postfix/submission/smtpd[28387]: > unknown[87.190.238.154]: 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
[21:27:44] <pj> 2017-02-21T20:16:01.901508+01:00 olli-suse-main postfix/submission/smtpd[28387]: < unknown[87.190.238.154]: dXNlcm5hbWU=
[21:28:09] <schmittlauch> pj: Ah, so verbose submission logging needed again
[21:28:25] <pj> well, in this particular case it helped, but usually it does not.
[21:28:36] <pj> it is likely that you could also have gotten the answer from dovecot.
[21:31:53] <pj> the VXNlcm5hbWU6 is the Username: prompt from dovecot and dXNlcm5hbWU= is the reply from the client which base64 decodes to "username"
[21:32:33] <schmittlauch> I used the correct username this time, still doesn't work. thx anyways
[21:32:53] <pj> look at the error message from dovecot, does it still say that the issue is the username?
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[21:35:48] <schmittlauch> yes, still unknown user.
[21:36:12] <pj> then look at the transaction, see what username is being passed in base64.
[21:36:26] <schmittlauch> the base64 decoded username has no newline at the end. But I guess it should be that way
[21:36:32] <pj> correct
[21:36:59] <schmittlauch> so username is the correct one
[21:37:26] <pj> at any rate, you can see the transaction going to dovecot and dovecot is coming back with "unknown user", so the issue is squarely with dovecot now (not that it ever was not before).
[21:37:35] <pj> so go and ask for help in #dovecot.
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[21:41:50] <schmittlauch> completely different topic: Is it possible to set multiple characters as a recipient_delimiter? I want to migrate from + to _ and read in some mailing-list discussion this feature was implemented. But I never managed to get it working.
[21:46:37] <pj> schmittlauch: yes, recipient_delimiter can contain multiple characters as of postfix 2.11, if your postfix is older than that then it can only contain a single character.
[21:47:04] <lunaphyte> right in the documentation, that is
[21:47:06] <pj> I wouldn't use "_", btw, it's common to want to use that in usernames.
[21:47:28] <lunaphyte> personally, i use backspace for my recipient delimiter
[21:47:35] <pj> hahaha
[21:48:05] <lunaphyte> i tried newline, but ran into problems :(
[21:48:28] <thumbs> shame, that is
[21:48:34] <pj> CR, or FF?
[21:48:39] <schmittlauch> pj: The problem with "uncommon" characters: Some damn frontend js developers dont't care to read the RFC and claim that e.g. + was not a valid char in e-mail addresses. As I'm running the server mostly for myself, _ should work
[21:49:01] <pj> schmittlauch: yeah, in that case I recommend "-" instead
[21:49:08] <lunaphyte> me too
[21:49:50] <pj> and bug those developers to fix their code.
[21:50:20] <schmittlauch> they just don't care
[21:50:59] <pj> bug them anyways, squeaky wheel and all.
[21:51:08] <lunaphyte> most developers are way too busy being super awesome
[21:51:18] <schmittlauch> I do, but I also know it doesn't help
[21:51:51] <schmittlauch> pj: which format does recipient_delimiter need to have?
[21:52:01] <pj> schmittlauch: read the docs
[21:52:06] <pj> !postconf_%
[21:52:07] <knoba> pj: "postconf_%" : All possible postconf(5) settings are documented in the manual: use man 5 postconf, or visit http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html
[21:52:22] <pj> hah, the bot knows to translate % to 5, lol
[21:52:43] <lunaphyte> i was just wondering about that!
[21:53:25] <schmittlauch> pj: I read it, but don't understand it. Currently I set it to +_ and the + works as delimiter while the _ doesn't
[21:53:55] <pj> schmittlauch: what is the output of: postconf -d mail_Version
[21:53:55] <pj> oops
[21:53:55] <pj> schmittlauch: what is the output of: postconf -d mail_version
[21:54:41] <schmittlauch> mail_version = 2.11.8
[21:54:48] <pj> should work, then
[21:54:56] <schmittlauch> yeah, I thought
[21:55:06] <schmittlauch> maybe the _ is special and needs to be escaped?
[21:55:45] <lunaphyte> does _ work by itself?
[21:57:07] <pj> how does "_" fail? what do the logs say?
[21:57:36] <schmittlauch> User doesn't exist
[21:57:38] <pj> If you're using dovecot or another 3rd-party mda for delivery then it needs to know about the delimiter as well.
[21:58:11] <pj> !tell schmittlauch relenvant_logs
[21:58:11] <knoba> pj: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[21:58:16] <pj> !tell schmittlauch relevant_logs
[21:58:16] <knoba> schmittlauch: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.
[21:58:36] <pj> bleh my typing is crap this morning.
[21:58:39] <schmittlauch> pj: ah, could be dovecot indeed. It's been too long since I set up that mailserver
[21:59:04] <schmittlauch> I thought postfix would manage to split up and correct the username before giving it to dovecot
[21:59:25] <pj> it depends on how it's passing it to dovecot.
[22:00:07] <pj> if you're using lmtp for delivery then no, it doesn't work that way, if you're using dovecot_lda then it depends on how you have the transport configured in master.cf.
[22:00:54] <schmittlauch> lmtp is complaining, so apparently it's that version
[22:01:26] <pj> yeah, postfix will always pass the full recipient to lmtp, dovecot needs to be aware of the delimiter.
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[22:45:08] <rob0> only ONE delimiter character is used per localpart
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