February 18, 2017 
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February 18, 2017 [00:01:05] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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ZZZzzz…)[05:36:11] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[05:40:56] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:29:26] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has quit IRC (Quit: Riding the split)[06:32:37] *** zokum <zokum!~zokum@188.51-174-52.customer.lyse.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:32:55] *** julius_ <julius_!~julius@dslb-178-003-130-190.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #postfix[08:05:38] <fling> Is there a fine guide on filtering headers on a relay?[08:15:27] *** nutron <nutron!~nutron@unaffiliated/nutron> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:16:15] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:16:32] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[08:18:20] *** fling <fling!~fling@fsf/member/fling> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:20:53] *** fling <fling!~fling@fsf/member/fling> has joined #postfix[08:49:00] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:50:43] *** nutron <nutron!~nutron@unaffiliated/nutron> has joined #postfix[08:56:25] <julius_> hi[08:57:41] <julius_> when sending mails the log shows: message-id=<20170218075517.n2yre5vkbrg7ipik at static dot x-x-x-x.clients.your-server.de> instead of: myorigin = mhost.mydomain.de[08:58:08] <julius_> isnt myorigin whats appended to a normal system users name?[08:58:58] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE74C26.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[09:05:20] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE74C26.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:07:13] *** BoomerBile <BoomerBile!~MetaPhaze@96-42-197-150.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:31:40] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[09:37:53] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[09:37:56] <fling> Hello.[09:38:29] <fling> How do I perform header_checks only for mails received from a certain host?[09:38:41] <fling> submission time/[09:38:42] <fling> ?[09:39:17] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-49-240.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[09:39:27] <fling> julius_: send the mail to yourself and check the id there too[09:40:58] *** BoomerBile <BoomerBile!~MetaPhaze@96-42-197-150.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com> has joined #postfix[09:42:40] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:47:10] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[09:47:21] <julius_> yes, one minute[09:49:20] <julius_> its the same[09:50:02] <fling> julius_: then is not it set by your client?[09:51:39] <julius_> echo "This is the body" | mutt -s "Testing mutt" recipient at myhost dot mydomain.de <- this is what i used[09:52:07] <julius_> isnt postfix supposed to set a "origin" or how its called?[09:52:54] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[09:59:50] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:59:58] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:05:58] <fling> how do I filter off 'received by' properly?[10:06:03] <fling> julius_: not sure[10:06:25] <fling> julius_: there is myorigin thing in postfix but why do you think it should set the header for you?[10:07:02] *** benone <benone!~benone@web.tiangola.co.ao> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:11:48] <fling> ok, enabled submission and added a cleanup service to it[10:12:12] <fling> Do I need received by header?[10:12:21] <fling> julius_: I'm also thinking replacing this hostname part with localhost[10:13:27] <fling> How do I replace envelope from?[10:17:21] <fling> julius_: you could use something like this in header checks to fix your situation[10:17:35] <fling> /^\s*(Message-ID: <.*) at whatever dot your.hostname.here>/ REPLACE $1@localhost>[10:17:53] <fling> julius_: you could replace with anything you wish intsead of localhost if you don't care[10:20:47] <julius_> hm[10:21:41] <fling> How do I replace envelope-from per user…[10:22:02] <fling> Looks like not a relay job anyway[10:22:18] <julius_> fling, after reading the myorigin description here: http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#stand_alone[10:22:46] <julius_> i thought postfix would take care of the "domain/hostname" part of the emails i send[10:22:55] <julius_> but youre saying that my mail client does that?[10:23:42] <fling> julius_: I thought message-id is what used in clients to figure out which message is a reply to which and for forming nice threads[10:24:04] <fling> julius_: I told you how I just set my message id using postfix ^[10:24:46] <fling> mutt does not care about which is reply to which if you don't put both incoming and sent mail to the same mailbox[10:29:04] <julius_> setting from for mutt does indeed change the email, i can now read myuser at myhostname dot mydomain.de in the From= field in the bounced message attachement[10:30:06] <julius_> fling, i dont think this is a fix...postfix should be able to figure that out on its own[10:30:26] <fling> julius_: how will postfix figure out what hostname I want to use in message-id header?[10:30:46] <fling> How do I replace envelope-from based on From: ?[10:30:56] <julius_> with the myorigin variable was my thinking, but apparently is was wrong[10:34:34] *** benone <benone!~benone@196.32.197.179> has joined #postfix[10:37:27] <julius_> ah ok, it was using /etc/mailname[10:39:17] <fling> julius_: what was using /etc/mailname?[10:44:46] <fling> julius_: I just switched myorigin to match the relay server's hostname, then added this hostname to mydestination list and now I don't have my hostname in envelope-from anymore yay![10:45:18] <fling> The only thing left is to remove the timezone from Date: header[10:45:24] <fling> Then I will be able to replace this server…[10:51:24] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:58:53] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@80-121-123-63.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:59:25] <fling> How do I convert Date: header to UTC?[11:00:38] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@80-121-122-6.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[11:01:20] <fling> This is what I want -> https://www.howtoforge.com/community/threads/postfix-always-show-utc-timestamp-for-outgoing-messages.13653/[11:02:40] <julius_> sorry cant help you with that[11:03:53] <fling> $(TZ=UTC mutt) did the trick[11:03:59] <fling> I will use it as a workaround for a while[11:04:04] <fling> Thanks! :P[11:05:25] *** zokum <zokum!~zokum@188.51-174-52.customer.lyse.net> has joined #postfix[11:11:07] *** Columbo0815 <Columbo0815!~foobar@HSI-KBW-078-042-130-040.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #postfix[11:37:57] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-49-240.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:38:36] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-41-1.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[11:38:44] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[11:40:48] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p200300868A2B3E010000000000000002.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[11:43:32] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:44:27] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-41-1.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:44:45] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-63-145.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[11:49:17] 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Now what do I do!?)[12:39:47] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:42:40] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has joined #postfix[12:44:00] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host22-23-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[12:52:28] *** NTQ <NTQ!~nicolas@ip5f58b67f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[12:57:20] *** NTQ <NTQ!~nicolas@ip5f58b67f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:01:08] <zokum> how come mail relaying postfix server rewrite 550 messages to 450 messages?[13:05:37] *** doppo <doppo!doppo@2604:180::e0fc:a07f> has joined #postfix[13:07:56] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p200300868A2B3E010000000000000002.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[13:38:20] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@d27-99-49-86.bla1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:39:28] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[13:44:24] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:57:20] *** CaMeLiRiS <CaMeLiRiS!~CaMeLiRiS@2a02-8429-8024-1200-a175-c33d-78c0-7f04.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:58:25] *** CaMeLiRiS <CaMeLiRiS!~CaMeLiRiS@181.22.26.109.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[14:04:12] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:13:18] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[14:17:26] *** ggherdov__ <ggherdov__!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gqnqgzvzrioipyny> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:17:26] *** ggherdov__ <ggherdov__!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov> has joined #postfix[14:17:26] *** ggherdov__ <ggherdov__!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:17:26] *** ggherdov__ <ggherdov__!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gqnqgzvzrioipyny> has joined #postfix[14:17:33] *** ggherdov__ is now known as ggherdov[14:36:07] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:8515:c8d9:e210:edeb> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[15:02:07] *** Dessa <Dessa!~Dessa@kvirc/staff/Dessa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:04:14] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:2c88:a835:8cef:4341> has joined #postfix[15:04:45] *** Dessa <Dessa!~Dessa@pku74f0o.dip0.t-iqconnect.de> has joined #postfix[15:16:54] *** mroe <mroe!~roe@unaffiliated/roe> has joined #postfix[15:29:16] *** mroe <mroe!~roe@unaffiliated/roe> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[15:40:14] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[15:44:48] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:47:58] *** Columbo0815 <Columbo0815!~foobar@HSI-KBW-078-042-130-040.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend)[16:33:13] <lunaphyte> zokum: what's the actual problem?[16:39:15] <zokum> with the old setup, when mail hit the "real" server directly, mail to a bad address got a 550, and the sender got immediate feedback about this[16:39:56] <rob0> We have no way to know, but it could be that you have set:[16:40:02] <rob0> !soft_bounce[16:40:02] <knoba> rob0: "soft_bounce" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently, by changing 5xx reply codes into 4xx. However, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.[16:41:00] <zokum> i haven't set that, it's not in my config[16:41:13] <rob0> (When doing a major change in services, soft_bounce is good idea, until you have determined everything works properly.)[16:41:22] <zokum> postconf says: soft_bounce = no[16:41:39] <zokum> i did some searches, this is aparently a common thing[16:41:47] <rob0> sorry, that was my only guess, I'm all out :([16:41:59] <rob0> good luck![16:42:31] <zokum> i found a way to fix it[16:43:00] <zokum> i set: unverified_recipient_reject_code = 550[16:43:33] <zokum> that makes the relay more "transparent" so to speak, giving users quicker feedback[16:43:54] <zokum> i don't want it to take days before they get notified about a bad address[16:43:56] <rob0> yes, recipient verification is an unusual setup, so that guess would have been pretty far down the list[16:44:55] <zokum> well, a 550 message is a 550, i still have problems understanding why it's defaulting to rewrite it into a 450[16:46:02] <rob0> see postconf.5.html#unverified_recipient_reject_code[16:46:18] <rob0> see also:[16:46:21] <rob0> !verify[16:46:21] <knoba> rob0: "verify" : Sender or recipient address verification features: http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html[16:47:29] <zokum> fair enough, my setup is a postfix to postfix, with it set to trusted network both ways :)[16:47:53] <zokum> i can see how it might be problematic when relaying to another non-postfix server[16:48:27] <rob0> yes, Wietse wouldn't want to be responsible for mail loss[16:49:10] <zokum> i had a user telling me mail didn't come through to him, nor did it bounce[16:49:30] <zokum> turned out it would bounce, but it would take the usual 48 hours to detect :)[17:03:12] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:04:45] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[17:08:36] *** Darkhunter <Darkhunter!~mmojzis@static-84-42-171-203.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #postfix[17:09:29] <Darkhunter> Hi, I have issue with laravel sending mail to postfix. I can connect to account with thunderbird and receive/send mails without a problem, but laravel can't. When laravel connects it tells me SSL_accept error in postfix logs.[17:11:25] <lunaphyte> pastebin your postfix config, and your laravel config[17:11:32] <lunaphyte> !tell Darkhunter show_config[17:11:32] <knoba> Darkhunter: "show_config" : see !showconfig[17:11:37] <lunaphyte> meh[17:11:40] <lunaphyte> !tell Darkhunter showconfig[17:11:40] <knoba> Darkhunter: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[17:14:24] <Darkhunter> There it is: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LW0U4d9uu377gG35nD15lV5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=[17:20:36] <Darkhunter> lunaphyte: ^[17:23:57] *** dka <dka!~dka@master-sbg-01.kopaxgroup.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:33:26] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-40-65.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[17:38:14] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[17:38:14] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:38:14] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[17:45:48] *** hejohn <hejohn!~gernot@srv-13.snet.at> has joined #postfix[17:47:58] <rob0> "SSL accept error", before or after STARTTLS? Or is the bad client using/attempting to use smtps?[17:48:02] <rob0> !smtps[17:48:02] <knoba> rob0: "smtps" : Port 465 is smtps, SMTP over SSL, a deprecated means of submission. This means that smtps should *not* be used, and that this factoid exists for historical purposes only and should not be implemented. See !submission for smtps' successor. That being said, Postfix can implement smtps with a separate smtpd(8) listener with \"-o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes\". See the commented example in master.cf.[17:49:03] <rob0> that pastebin is not viewable (probably useless anyway)[18:02:15] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p5DCEDF54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[18:23:17] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:23:53] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[18:52:10] *** julius_ <julius_!~julius@dslb-178-003-130-190.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:55:02] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[19:00:05] *** Death_rattle <Death_rattle!~death@p5DCEC9C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[19:02:57] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p5DCEDF54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:25:03] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-40-65.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:33:40] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:37:58] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[19:47:11] *** Deruyter <Deruyter!~Deruyter@unaffiliated/deruyter> has left #postfix ("Leaving")[19:50:59] *** namyzarc <namyzarc!~namyzarc@c-98-237-99-145.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:55:35] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:56:30] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[19:56:44] *** JanC_ <JanC_!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[19:57:45] *** zokum_ <zokum_!~zokum@188.51-174-52.customer.lyse.net> has joined #postfix[19:58:01] *** JanC is now known as Guest5849[19:58:01] *** Guest5849 <Guest5849!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[19:58:01] *** JanC_ is now known as JanC[19:58:49] *** zokum <zokum!~zokum@188.51-174-52.customer.lyse.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:59:15] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has joined #postfix[19:59:48] *** Dat <Dat!dat@gotpot.org> has joined #postfix[20:04:16] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:04:41] *** Dat <Dat!dat@gotpot.org> has left #postfix[20:06:31] *** DzAirmaX <DzAirmaX!~AirmaX@unaffiliated/dzairmax> has joined #postfix[20:32:06] <viderizer> smtpd_tls_key_file documentation suggests that "This file may be combined with the Postfix SMTP server RSA certificate file". Why would this ever be done? Wouldn't it send the key to the client too?[20:33:30] <rob0> of course not[20:34:34] <rob0> the openssl libraries have to read the file to get the cert and key, they do not send the file as is[20:37:15] <viderizer> thanks for clarifying that for me[20:37:39] *** namyzarc <namyzarc!~namyzarc@c-98-237-99-145.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[20:46:58] *** Niemi <Niemi!niemi@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-argmdodsdpymrgev> has joined #postfix[21:03:57] <lunaphyte> i still see little to no value in combining them[21:22:11] *** Darkhunter <Darkhunter!~mmojzis@static-84-42-171-203.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:27:28] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:29:49] <rob0> it's an openssl feature, Postfix supports it[21:32:56] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:33:37] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[21:45:25] *** sphenxes02 <sphenxes02!~sphenxes@81-5-247-179.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[21:48:31] *** Darkhunter <Darkhunter!~mmojzis@static-84-42-152-237.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #postfix[21:48:48] *** sphenxes01 <sphenxes01!~sphenxes@81-5-247-179.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[22:09:26] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.2.99> has joined #postfix[22:24:38] *** mishehu <mishehu!~mishehu@heartofgold.eyepeeveesicks.shavedgoats.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:32:20] *** mishehu <mishehu!~mishehu@heartofgold.eyepeeveesicks.shavedgoats.net> has joined #postfix[22:39:58] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[22:44:50] *** julius_ <julius_!~julius@dslb-178-003-130-190.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #postfix[22:46:29] *** Death_rattle <Death_rattle!~death@p5DCEC9C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:47:23] *** Niemi <Niemi!niemi@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-argmdodsdpymrgev> has quit IRC (Quit: bb)[23:18:13] <viderizer> what is the use case of the commented "smtpd pass ... smtpd" service in master.cf?[23:18:18] *** iGeni <iGeni!~textual@50702E2F.cm-14.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #postfix[23:20:26] <patdk-lap> !postscreen[23:20:26] <knoba> patdk-lap: "postscreen" : SMTP triage server available in Postfix 2.8, see http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html and http://www.postfix.org/postscreen.8.html[23:26:17] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[23:31:00] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:32:55] *** mishehu <mishehu!~mishehu@heartofgold.eyepeeveesicks.shavedgoats.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:40:15] *** mishehu <mishehu!~mishehu@heartofgold.eyepeeveesicks.shavedgoats.net> has joined #postfix[23:42:29] <viderizer> thanks ^^[23:45:11] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.2.99> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:45:28] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.2.99> has joined #postfix[23:54:15] *** DrAwesome <DrAwesome!~DrAwesome@unaffiliated/drawesome> has joined #postfix