February 15, 2017 
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February 15, 2017 [00:01:19] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[00:02:21] *** xpoint <xpoint!sid133359@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hkzqmrhkdemorrik> has joined #postfix[00:08:00] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@86.123.182.225> has joined #postfix[00:10:29] *** john51 <john51!~john@15255.s.t4vps.eu> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:10:46] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@86.123.182.225> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:10:46] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has joined #postfix[00:10:47] *** john51 <john51!~john@15255.s.t4vps.eu> has joined #postfix[00:11:22] *** L235 <L235!L235@wikipedia/fsf.member.Lixxx235> has joined #postfix[00:33:22] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:49:30] *** Kelsar <Kelsar!~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar> has joined #postfix[00:58:34] *** KNERD <KNERD!~KNERD@2604:a880:1:20::9b:4001> has joined #postfix[01:24:50] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[01:32:18] <MacWinner> I'm trying to debug an issue with gmail on my postfix server. is there a way to see what is transferred over the wire via wireshark if STARTTLS is used? I think you can decode the packets with the certificate and private key if it's a fully encapsulated TLS session[01:32:32] <MacWinner> or maybe a debug flag in the smtp client to dump out what it's saying[01:32:45] <MacWinner> look for the "From:" header specifically[01:33:03] <patdk-lap> it's imposssible[01:33:09] <patdk-lap> unless you break ssl completely[01:38:30] <MacWinner> patdk-lap, if you have the certificate and private key, you can decode TLS traffic in wireshark.. just not sure if can understand SMTP STARTTLS[01:39:45] <patdk-lap> but how are you doing decode the random key it makes for each transaction?[01:39:55] <patdk-lap> this is why it's called, perfect forward security[01:41:38] *** mcfate <mcfate!~textual@174-134-145-16.res.bhn.net> has joined #postfix[01:41:53] *** phigan <phigan!~phigan@ip68-109-172-239.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #postfix[01:42:04] <patdk-lap> https://ask.wireshark.org/questions/44927/decode-ssl-with-server-key[01:50:43] <MacWinner> ahh, thanks![01:50:55] <MacWinner> is there a smtp client tweak i can do on the postfix side?[01:51:03] <patdk-lap> !verbose[01:51:03] <knoba> patdk-lap: "verbose" : You probably do not need verbose logging, but in very rare cases, the extra detail might assist in debugging. To set verbose logging, add a -v after the command name (such as smtpd) in master.cf, then 'postfix reload' after that[01:51:05] <MacWinner> maybe capture the queue file[01:51:10] <patdk-lap> man so many people want to use verbose today[01:51:32] <MacWinner> ha.. k, i'll try that and see if I get the details needed[01:52:19] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[01:52:36] <MacWinner> is there a space betwen the command and -v?[01:54:02] *** mcfate <mcfate!~textual@174-134-145-16.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[01:54:18] <MacWinner> sorry.. dumb question.. brain dead toda[02:00:02] *** Darkhunter <Darkhunter!~mmojzis@static-84-42-171-203.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:04:18] *** puzzled <puzzled!~puzzled@2001:982:1097:1::1:3> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:17:21] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[02:38:58] *** froz-gab 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My sending app is taking about 1.5seconds per mail, and i'm not sure how to figure out where that time is going?[05:05:20] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[05:30:34] *** tharkun <tharkun!~0@187.190.62.81> has quit IRC (Changing host)[05:30:34] *** tharkun <tharkun!~0@unaffiliated/tharkun> has joined #postfix[05:31:00] <tharkun> spronk: /j #"your_programming_language_here" and they will tell you about the tools it has.[05:31:29] <spronk> tharkun i've narrowed it down to the smtp roundtrip with postfix[05:32:23] <spronk> is ~1-2 seconds an expected sort of time for a roundtrip sending an individual email? Or is it particularly high?[05:32:59] <tharkun> spronk: how many emails do you send with your app?[05:33:12] <spronk> hundreds of thousands[05:33:46] <spronk> maybe like 20k per day?[05:34:03] <spronk> postfix can send them out just fine, and can accept high numbers concurrently[05:34:16] <spronk> load averages, io loads all seem reasonably low[05:34:38] <spronk> but in a single threaded send, smtp connect, loop(send next email), it's 1-2 seconds per send[05:35:10] <spronk> latency between servers is approx 150ms[05:35:30] <spronk> emails are at most 20KB[05:46:55] <spronk> tharkun https://gist.github.com/spronkey/0d47f0a8879c0620ae59d057e88bacc0 does this help? SMTP debug[05:47:56] <pj> !tuning[05:47:57] <knoba> pj: Error: "tuning" is not a valid command.[05:47:59] <pj> bleh[05:48:12] <pj> spronk: http://www.postfix.org/TUNING_README.html[05:49:01] <spronk> mm have been reading through, a little overwhelmed :)[05:49:50] <pj> it can be, yes[05:51:27] <pj> the delivery line in your postfix logs shows delays, that will help you determine what is running slow.[05:54:30] <spronk> pj by delivery line, do you mean the postfix/smtp [id]: to=... status=sent?[05:56:25] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@frozenstar.info> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:59:52] <pj> spronk: yes[06:01:32] *** timeless <timeless!sid4015@firefox/developer/timeless> has joined #postfix[06:11:04] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx1.ernw.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:14:32] <spronk> hmm, 1.1 seconds before queue :S[06:18:09] *** Dominian <Dominian!~dominian@opensuse/member/dominian> has quit IRC (Quit: bbib)[06:32:57] *** Dominian <Dominian!~dominian@opensuse/member/dominian> has joined #postfix[06:49:24] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:54:28] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host194-58-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[07:33:19] *** stenrose <stenrose!~stenrose@martin.ilait.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:37:38] *** stenrose <stenrose!~stenrose@martin.ilait.se> has joined #postfix[07:37:45] *** stenrose <stenrose!~stenrose@martin.ilait.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:41:02] *** stenrose <stenrose!~stenrose@martin.ilait.se> has joined #postfix[07:51:18] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@88-117-66-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[08:03:26] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx2.ernw.net> has joined #postfix[08:08:29] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[08:11:19] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@195.93.136.31> has joined #postfix[08:11:22] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:12:58] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@195.93.136.31> has quit IRC (Changing host)[08:12:58] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has joined #postfix[08:13:05] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[08:15:05] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[08:15:47] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[08:40:03] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[08:40:03] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[08:40:03] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[08:41:20] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has quit IRC ()[08:57:23] *** folatt <folatt!~Folatt@2001:983:8610:1:a11c:e955:2bd4:e5e0> has joined #postfix[08:59:23] <folatt> Hello there. For whatever reason my postfix changed my starttls settings and I've actually never manually canfigured it, so I don't know how to change it.[08:59:50] <folatt> I can't send mail anymore from my e-mail account.[09:00:01] <folatt> Using icedove.[09:00:36] <folatt> I'm running my mail server on a raspberry pi.[09:01:06] <folatt> And the OS is an Arch-Linux knock-off[09:01:34] <folatt> Arch-Linux ARM knock-off[09:02:38] *** hejohn <hejohn!~gernot@srv-13.snet.at> has quit IRC (Quit: hejohn)[09:03:58] *** zokum_ <zokum_!~zokum@188.51-174-52.customer.lyse.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:13:34] *** TAARs <TAARs!~user@unaffiliated/taars> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:17:48] *** thms <thms!~thms@unaffiliated/thms> has joined #postfix[09:20:02] *** TAARs <TAARs!~user@unaffiliated/taars> has joined #postfix[09:31:25] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@88-117-66-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye Bye)[09:31:40] *** NTQ <NTQ!~nicolas@ip5f58b564.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[09:43:41] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:46:45] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:46:45] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:47:49] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@hades.golgeli.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[09:47:49] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@unaffiliated/qann> has joined #postfix[09:47:55] *** Qann is now known as Nomads[09:51:44] *** folatt <folatt!~Folatt@2001:983:8610:1:a11c:e955:2bd4:e5e0> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:52:00] *** folatt <folatt!~Folatt@2001:983:8610:1:a11c:e955:2bd4:e5e0> has joined #postfix[10:02:04] *** maziar <maziar!~textual@5.115.221.128> has joined #postfix[10:05:17] *** Mizar <Mizar!~benjamin@host98-75-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[10:05:38] *** Mizar <Mizar!~benjamin@host98-75-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it> has left #postfix[10:11:21] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:13:14] *** istevenmon <istevenmon!50200f6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.32.15.108> has joined #postfix[10:15:19] <istevenmon> hi guys, i have a question regarding limiting outgoing email from users. I've googled and find the solution is to implement greylist policing server policyd. The question is I already have a server with postgrey as the check policy service for postfix, can i use two different policing services in the postfix configuration?[10:16:06] *** hejohn <hejohn!~gernot@srv-13.snet.at> has joined #postfix[10:17:07] *** maziar <maziar!~textual@5.115.221.128> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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The problem is:[11:07:39] <istevenmon> natan64: isnt policyd and cluebringer the same thing? the problem for which i want to know if i could use two check_policy_service directives is that i already have postgrey running with some rules but postgrey wont support user outgoing email limit[11:08:51] *** conley <conley!znc@aeneas.marmocet.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.4 - http://znc.in)[11:09:21] <jozza> i was following guides on how to add mysql, dovecot ans spamas. In that, first line in master.cf suggests to use smtpd -o content_filter=spamassassin to use the filter then last line spamassassin withsendmail or something should be used for final delivery[11:11:24] <jozza> but i also found and used a way for dovecot/deliver, to move incoming spam mail directly to junk or some folder, but now, i can't use relay, because deliver complains it can't found the destination user in my database, which is correct, since the outgoing mail went through same path as incoing mail[11:12:52] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[11:12:58] <jozza> so how can i separate processing path for incoming mail and outgoing mail?[11:13:33] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[11:15:33] <natan64> istevenmon yes you can use two different mechanism (transport) but why you canot use one who support outgoing and incomming and greylisting ?[11:16:13] <istevenmon> natan64: i should better migrate the postgrey rules to policyd then[11:16:14] <natan64> istevenmon find in google iredmal and check config about limit incomming and outgoing[11:17:35] <istevenmon> i already have the postfix server installed and configured. all i want to change is the policing service[11:17:45] <natan64> iredmail this is full stuff (postfix + amavis + sa + policyd + mysql + dovecot + sieve)[11:17:56] <natan64> i known[11:18:47] <natan64> istevenmon but there, see config in iredmail[11:19:48] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@qbuissondebon.info> has joined #postfix[11:22:37] <istevenmon> natan64: thanks a lot for your help. I will try to configure the policyd first and i will check the iredmail for future labs. what about zimbra community edition?[11:24:06] <natan64> I have zimbra for one client in productions[11:24:10] <natan64> workink fine[11:24:25] <natan64> but i have colabroations licence[11:24:52] <istevenmon> natan64: wait! could i use postgrey for smtpd_recipient and policyd for smtpd_sender[11:24:57] <natan64> any problem is backup and restore e-mails and i use snapshots for them[11:25:18] <istevenmon> how would you compare zimbra to iredmail?[11:26:02] <natan64> any email is spread to mysql / ldap and storage[11:26:55] <natan64> like /opt/zimbra/store/0/293/msg/0/262-1112.msg[11:26:58] <natan64> .....[11:27:28] <natan64> istevenmon for me ?[11:27:34] <natan64> iredmail[11:27:50] <natan64> iredmail have free licence and payment[11:28:10] <natan64> realy you pay for webpanel :)[11:29:34] <natan64> i use iredmail + postfixadmin with the revised options[11:30:14] <natan64> if you have get zimbra[11:30:22] <natan64> get only supported wersion[11:30:22] <natan64> :)[11:32:21] <istevenmon> i have always used zimbra free edition as for version 8. i dont really know if they dont support community edition nowadays[11:44:16] *** sphenxes <sphenxes!~sphenxes@81-5-247-179.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:51:10] *** zulutango <zulutango!~zulutango@d27-99-49-86.bla1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:55:56] *** Lucretia <Lucretia!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has joined #postfix[12:06:21] *** Lucretia <Lucretia!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has left #postfix ("Leaving")[12:09:48] *** disc0very <disc0very!~disc0very@static-82-85-147-226.clienti.tiscali.it> has joined #postfix[12:33:08] *** disc0very <disc0very!~disc0very@static-82-85-147-226.clienti.tiscali.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:55:34] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has joined #postfix[13:01:11] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[13:08:02] *** cameliris <cameliris!6d1a16b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.26.22.181> has joined #postfix[13:08:48] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@qbuissondebon.info> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:09:32] <cameliris> hi here[13:10:29] <cameliris> i have a strange error : postfix/cleanup[12985]: warning: mysql query failed: Unknown column 'goto' in 'field list'[13:10:41] *** jozza <jozza!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jozza> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131])[13:10:44] <cameliris> warning: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf lookup error for[13:11:20] <cameliris> warning: 23AC38A0827: virtual_alias_maps map lookup problem for root@**** -- message not accepted, try again later[13:11:46] <natan64> cameliris test your mysql map use postmap[13:12:18] <cameliris> sorry for my bad english[13:12:27] <natan64> postmap -q "your e-mail" mysql:/etc/postfix/your_mysql_transport[13:12:28] <cameliris> can you explaine me[13:12:38] <cameliris> oki i try[13:12:39] *** disc0very <disc0very!~disc0very@static-82-85-147-226.clienti.tiscali.it> has joined #postfix[13:13:08] <natan64> probably you have incorrect sql query[13:13:22] <natan64> mysql query failed: Unknown column 'goto' in 'field list'[13:13:41] <natan64> or access to mysql[13:14:56] <cameliris> how can i be sure to my transport?[13:15:30] <cameliris> is it sieve ?[13:16:26] <Zerberus> !tell cameliris getting_help[13:16:26] <knoba> cameliris: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[13:16:45] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br> has joined #postfix[13:18:27] <cameliris> i dont understand very well what i have to do Zerberus[13:19:39] <cameliris> !relevant_logs[13:19:39] <knoba> cameliris: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[13:20:12] <Zerberus> !tell cameliris show_config[13:20:12] <knoba> cameliris: "show_config" : see !showconfig[13:20:15] <Zerberus> !tell cameliris showconfig[13:20:15] <knoba> cameliris: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[13:20:22] <natan64> cameliris ok[13:20:28] <natan64> cameliris test your mysql map use postmap[13:20:43] <natan64> postmap -q "your alias" mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf[13:21:02] <natan64> probably you have incorrect sql query[13:21:16] <natan64> or access to mysql[13:23:39] <cameliris> https://lab.cameliris.c4.fr/p/postfix[13:26:11] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@37.169.111.33> has joined #postfix[13:40:30] *** istevenmon <istevenmon!512fb379@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.47.179.121> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[13:44:03] <cameliris> natan64: i have same error[13:48:16] <natan64> cameliris cat /etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf[13:54:54] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@83.45.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[13:57:41] *** zokum <zokum!zokum@188.51-174-52.customer.lyse.net> has joined #postfix[13:57:51] *** Lucretia <Lucretia!~laguest@pdpc/supporter/active/lucretia> has joined #postfix[13:59:05] <Lucretia> hi, i'm configuring a server now. I have it sending and receiving email locally and remotely. I have a number of virtual domains, so when an email is sent from my client using email at domain2 dot com I would like the email to have mail.domain2.com not mail.domain1.com inside it. Is this possible?[13:59:07] <Lucretia> thanks[14:01:27] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@208.167.254.53> has joined #postfix[14:01:56] <natan64> cameliris w8[14:08:44] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:14:04] <Zerberus> Lucretia: it is the job of the mail client to properly set the sender domain[14:14:30] <Lucretia> no, that's not what i mean[14:14:39] <Lucretia> "Received: from"[14:15:02] <Lucretia> I have a few different domains, all have a mail mx record.[14:15:11] <Zerberus> Lucretia: your mail host has a single identity, by your hostname or Postfix's $myhostname[14:15:24] <Lucretia> yes[14:15:27] *** daynaskully <daynaskully!~dskull@unaffiliated/daynaskully> has joined #postfix[14:15:53] <Zerberus> there is no issue to feed different domains from a single identity, given you setup DNS properly[14:17:59] *** hejohn <hejohn!~gernot@srv-13.snet.at> has left #postfix[14:19:46] <cameliris> natan64: w8[14:24:26] <rob0> The Quest for the Perfect Headers[14:30:03] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:49:26] <cameliris> natan64: w8[15:12:01] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.46.97> has joined #postfix[15:13:20] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx2.ernw.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:15:36] *** Tourist <Tourist!~Tourist@unaffiliated/tourist> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:16:47] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[15:17:57] *** Tourist <Tourist!~Tourist@ip97.ip-51-254-159.eu> has joined #postfix[15:18:01] *** Tourist <Tourist!~Tourist@ip97.ip-51-254-159.eu> has quit IRC (Changing host)[15:18:01] *** Tourist <Tourist!~Tourist@unaffiliated/tourist> has joined #postfix[15:29:19] *** dka <dka!~dka@master-sbg-01.kopaxgroup.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:29:19] *** dka__ <dka__!~dka@master-sbg-01.kopaxgroup.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:30:16] *** souther <souther!~souther@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:1ac:61c0:e24e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:40:26] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[15:41:00] <ArcanePhoenix> I am having a terrible time getting Amavis working correctly. I have added the required lines to master.cf and according to the log, it appears to be scanning the messages (PASSED SPAM) but there are no headers or subject changes to the message even though I see a Received line for amavis-new. I am using postfix, dovecot (with sieve) and amavis.[15:43:31] <ArcanePhoenix> Here is my master.cf: http://paste2.org/2mKU51nJ[15:43:38] <natan64> !tell ArcanePhoenix getting_help[15:43:38] <knoba> ArcanePhoenix: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[15:45:40] <natan64> ArcanePhoenix http://paste2.org/KAD02pcW[15:47:07] <ArcanePhoenix> natan64, working on getting the log. Looks like I am removing the smtp-amavis and the two options from smtp?[15:48:22] <natan64> remove yours[15:48:23] *** patdk-wk <patdk-wk!~dswett@2001:470:e0ba:15:1a03:73ff:fe2a:d75> has quit IRC ()[15:48:39] <natan64> and tagged is not from postfix but from amavis / SA[15:48:44] *** patdk-wk <patdk-wk!~dswett@2001:470:e0ba:15:1a03:73ff:fe2a:d75> has joined #postfix[15:49:09] <ArcanePhoenix> Sorry, here is the log. I had to obfuscate the email addresses: http://paste2.org/c8CAgCZw[15:49:50] <natan64> postfix -----> amavis-------> taged / not taged ----------> postfix ----------> mail[15:50:01] <ArcanePhoenix> I'm aware that amavis/SA are supposed to be tagging but that was my concern that the messages were somehow not passing through amavis or getting back into the queue because of a misconfiguration of postfix[15:50:36] <natan64> line 222[15:50:52] <natan64> this is spam options about taged is in the amais / sa[15:52:07] <ArcanePhoenix> Yeah, thats the line i was referring to originally. It says spam and hits are 997 which means it should be tagging the email and putting it back in the queue but it looks like it is just being given to dovecot[15:53:52] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has joined #postfix[15:53:53] <ArcanePhoenix> natan64, I removed the smtp-amavis from master and now i get: warning: connect to transport private/smtp-amavis: Connection refused[15:55:35] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@37.169.111.33> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:01:34] <natan64> ArcanePhoenix http://paste2.org/KAD02pcW[16:02:16] <natan64> in main.cf add:[16:02:17] <natan64> content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024[16:02:41] <natan64> smtp-amavis_destination_recipient_limit = 1[16:04:28] <ArcanePhoenix> content_filter line was already present. The other line began with dovecot. Changed to smtp-amavis. Reloading..[16:05:32] <ArcanePhoenix> Without the smtp-amavis line in master, won't it still fail?[16:05:45] <ArcanePhoenix> There is no declaration of that service[16:06:11] <lunaphyte> um, you can't reference a service in the postfix config and expect it to work if the service definition doesn't exist...[16:06:52] <lunaphyte> ArcanePhoenix: if there are received headers indicating the mail was fed through amavis, then postfix is unlikely to be the issue[16:07:14] <ArcanePhoenix> lunaphyte, natan64 told me to remove it o.o[16:07:29] <lunaphyte> you'd most likely want #amavis for help with fixing amavis related headers[16:07:38] <lunaphyte> yes, i saw that. it was not very good advice :([16:08:10] *** Belgarath <Belgarath!nobody@banda.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:08:32] *** Belgarath <Belgarath!nobody@banda.pl> has joined #postfix[16:08:44] <ArcanePhoenix> lunaphyte, as stated before, the reason I started here was in the logs, it appears that amavis is processing it but it immediately goes to dovecot which sounds like it isn't using the message from amavis but I could be reading the log incorrectly.[16:09:11] <ArcanePhoenix> I will see if #amavis can be of help. Thanks.[16:09:16] <lunaphyte> is there a SINGLE pastebin, as per the !getting_help factoid?[16:09:16] *** NTQ <NTQ!~nicolas@ip5f58b564.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:09:25] <lunaphyte> does it include verbose output?[16:09:30] <lunaphyte> !tell ArcanePhoenix noverbose[16:09:30] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: No factoid matches that key.[16:09:38] <lunaphyte> !tell ArcanePhoenix no_verbose[16:09:38] <knoba> ArcanePhoenix: "no_verbose" : do not show verbose logs unless someone asks you to. if someone does ask you to, see !verbose[16:10:00] <ArcanePhoenix> I will combine them and I believe I have verbose on. 230-ish lines for a single message[16:10:03] *** MACscr_ <MACscr_!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[16:11:36] *** necrogami_ <necrogami_!~necrogami@mars.c4.io> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:12:17] <ArcanePhoenix> lunaphyte, do you need anything other than main, master and the log?[16:12:33] <lunaphyte> !tell ArcanePhoenix getting_help[16:12:33] <knoba> ArcanePhoenix: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[16:12:36] *** MACscr <MACscr!~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:12:36] <lunaphyte> that ^[16:12:45] *** folatt <folatt!~Folatt@2001:983:8610:1:a11c:e955:2bd4:e5e0> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:12:53] <ArcanePhoenix> !relevant_logs[16:12:53] <knoba> ArcanePhoenix: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[16:13:53] *** necrogami_ <necrogami_!~necrogami@mars.c4.io> has joined #postfix[16:13:55] <ArcanePhoenix> !showconfig[16:13:55] <knoba> ArcanePhoenix: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[16:14:13] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[16:15:29] <ArcanePhoenix> lunaphyte, http://paste2.org/BfZ9wWca[16:21:58] <lunaphyte> you're not reading and following directions...[16:22:36] <ArcanePhoenix> What did I miss?[16:22:58] <lunaphyte> what did i say about verbose?[16:23:03] <lunaphyte> what did the factoids say about verbose?[16:23:41] <ArcanePhoenix> Sorry, thought you wanted verbose. Standby[16:26:51] <ArcanePhoenix> lunaphyte, http://paste2.org/1vGkdI9c how's that?[16:28:14] <lunaphyte> you ca nsee the message is being passed from postfix to amavis, processed by amavis, and then passed along,[16:28:39] <lunaphyte> while it's not the proper way to set that up, it is worked as it is suppsoed to given that configuration[16:28:39] <ArcanePhoenix> Yeah, around line 14[16:28:53] <lunaphyte> *is working[16:29:34] <ArcanePhoenix> I looked around at a few tutorials, they all seemed to be the same. Is there another way I should be doing this?[16:29:52] <lunaphyte> brb[16:30:31] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx1.ernw.net> has joined #postfix[16:41:06] *** folatt <folatt!~Folatt@2001:983:8610:1:72c9:338e:2563:d8b8> has joined #postfix[16:41:36] *** viderizer <viderizer!~viderizer@2a01:4f8:192:23e4:38::> has joined #postfix[16:41:50] <thumbs> ArcanePhoenix: the problem is that you're looking at tutorials to begin with[16:42:05] <ArcanePhoenix> thumbs, thats usually how my problems start[16:42:27] <thumbs> ArcanePhoenix: tutorials are for experts - you should be looking at the official documentation instead[16:43:58] <ArcanePhoenix> Ah, no wonder.[16:46:04] <lunaphyte> ArcanePhoenix: if it were me, i'd not use content_filter[16:46:28] <lunaphyte> i would just relay mail from postfix to amavis, and then from amavis to dovecot[16:46:31] <lunaphyte> both using lmtp[16:47:09] <ArcanePhoenix> lunaphyte, I thought that was a bit "strange" to do it that way considering when I just has SA standalone, it didn't need that option (I don't think it did, anyway).[16:47:17] <ArcanePhoenix> That sounds like a better solution.[16:48:15] <lunaphyte> sometimes it can be scary for people to think about changing things, but that's usually just because "they already got it to work", and not because it's actually scary[16:48:31] <lunaphyte> i would start by configuring amavis to relay to dovecot via lmtp[16:55:06] <ArcanePhoenix> I will work on that[16:56:58] <ArcanePhoenix> Thanks for the help thusfar[17:02:05] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.2.99> has joined #postfix[17:03:02] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.2.99> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:11:01] <viderizer> is virtual_alias_maps aliasing done before checking virtual_mailbox_domains?[17:11:25] <lunaphyte> what's the problem?[17:11:57] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@37.169.111.33> has joined #postfix[17:13:56] *** J-BBBB <J-BBBB!d9ec6bc6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.236.107.198> has joined #postfix[17:17:39] <viderizer> I'm planning to let mail through only if it gets aliased to a local domain because my dovecot only checks the validity of the user part[17:17:47] <viderizer> please point out if this is a dumb plan[17:20:36] <lunaphyte> it's not a dumb plan, but it might mean you just have things set up wrong[17:21:14] <lunaphyte> postfix should be configured to reject invalid recipients period, in the first place[17:25:58] *** J-BBB <J-BBB!~J-BBB@server2.jaba.hosting> has joined #postfix[17:26:29] <J-BBB> Hi, anyone have a idea why i get a action=dunno and Email isnt delivery?[17:26:30] <J-BBB> http://pastebin.com/uyawnDJN[17:27:17] *** J-BBBB <J-BBBB!d9ec6bc6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.236.107.198> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:28:22] <Zerberus> J-BBB: the log does not show that the mail is not being delivered[17:28:51] <Zerberus> DUNNO is the correct result of a positive SPF check[17:28:55] <J-BBB> Zerberus, trust me, it is not[17:29:05] *** Internat <Internat!~nf@27-33-21-50.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:29:08] <J-BBB> and I dont no why[17:29:35] <J-BBB> Zerberus, I never get a action=DUNNO[17:29:40] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@208.167.254.53> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:31:29] <viderizer> lunaphyte: optimal would be separate lists of domains for pre-alias and post-alias but maybe i'll just add the domain part to my dovecot configs[17:34:09] <J-BBB> It seems that do not relay to dovecot[17:39:08] <J-BBB> but why only this email[17:40:07] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@37.169.111.33> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:46:03] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@208.167.254.224> has joined #postfix[17:49:38] <ArcanePhoenix> lunaphyte, figured out the problem, by the way. It was an amavis issue. One of the vars was incorrectly configured (due to my misunderstanding of the options available).[17:51:13] <J-BBB> fuck[17:51:15] <J-BBB> spamassassin_destination_recipient_limit=1[17:51:26] <J-BBB> that was the solution[18:01:32] *** JanC_ <JanC_!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[18:02:49] *** JanC is now known as Guest33454[18:02:49] *** Guest33454 <Guest33454!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Killed (wilhelm.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[18:02:49] *** JanC_ is now known as JanC[18:03:42] <cameliris> natan64: ??[18:07:51] *** mishehu <mishehu!~mishehu@heartofgold.eyepeeveesicks.shavedgoats.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:09:12] *** mishehu <mishehu!~mishehu@heartofgold.eyepeeveesicks.shavedgoats.net> has joined #postfix[18:11:52] *** quizme <quizme!1805aaf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.5.170.245> has joined #postfix[18:12:30] <quizme> is Wietse Venema the primary maintainer of Postfix?[18:13:01] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host194-58-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:17:55] *** mishehu <mishehu!~mishehu@heartofgold.eyepeeveesicks.shavedgoats.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:18:33] <patdk-wk> there was another?[18:18:43] <patdk-wk> I know viktor seems to be the ssl/tls maintainer[18:20:29] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host194-58-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[18:22:53] *** mishehu <mishehu!~mishehu@heartofgold.eyepeeveesicks.shavedgoats.net> has joined #postfix[18:25:49] *** NTQ <NTQ!~nicolas@p4FC73CE9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[18:28:17] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host194-58-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:31:15] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:31:18] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[18:31:18] *** megaTherion_ <megaTherion_!~therion@unix.io> has left #postfix[18:46:22] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[19:05:01] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[19:14:05] *** hyperair <hyperair!~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:15:15] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@83.45.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:15:28] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p200300868A3386010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[19:23:53] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[19:23:57] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[19:30:47] *** hyperair <hyperair!~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair> has joined #postfix[19:38:03] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p200300868A3386010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:43:27] *** spenq <spenq!~spenq@dsl-087-195-149-183.solcon.nl> has joined #postfix[19:44:10] <spenq> How can I prevent postfix from deleting the bcc header, I tried message_drop_headers in main.cf but it says it's unused[19:53:33] <rob0> you can't. Why do you have a Bcc: header? Why do you think you want it?[19:59:43] <spenq> I need to see the user part of the email in a catchall inbox. Ofcourse I can read it when To'd or CC'd, but not in BCC. But I can find it in the logfiles. I know it has something to do with the cleanup daemon, but should I really disable it in code and compile it myself? I have a hash-catchall and have to forward the email to the righteous email address. Which is now software based through POP3. But I don't[19:59:49] <spenq> care how I have to do it, it just has to be done.[20:00:42] <spenq> e.g. i mail to bcc: hash at example dot org. But I translate through a db that hash => spenq at gmail dot com[20:01:00] <spenq> like amazon has[20:01:03] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:03:34] <spenq> message_drop_headers seemed like it should do what I need, but it won't work[20:03:57] <rob0> well ugh, catchalls are ugly and seldom a good idea. Maybe you could do a check_recipient_access per recipient and prepend a header.[20:04:23] <rob0> You never HAD any bcc header ... if they exist, every MTA will strip them out.[20:05:04] <rob0> And forwarding a catchall to gmail is sure to get you blocked.[20:05:11] <rob0> !mantras[20:05:11] <knoba> rob0: "mantras" : 1. do not accept mail that you do not intend to deliver. 2. do not drop mail. 3. do not use wildcards or catchalls. 4. do not forward mail to outside/third party systems[20:05:20] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br> has joined #postfix[20:05:53] <spenq> Okay, I'll check it out, thanks[20:06:07] <rob0> !access[20:06:07] <knoba> rob0: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[20:06:15] <rob0> and access.5.html[20:06:47] <rob0> I think you might also have to use a special transport with a recipient limit of 1[20:11:42] <spenq> But I don't know the email addresses that are used. The hashes are calculated somewhere else and I have to look them up in a db. That's why I use a catchall...[20:13:01] <spenq> Each hash has a real e-mail address, it's just a masquerade[20:14:07] *** Internat <Internat!~nf@61.68.134.48> has joined #postfix[20:22:05] *** spenq <spenq!~spenq@dsl-087-195-149-183.solcon.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:42:07] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:43:21] *** Poster <Poster!~poster@cpe-65-185-36-98.columbus.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[20:59:55] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.46.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:02:33] *** wwl <wwl!~wwl@ipbcc3a2a6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[21:12:30] *** testpil0t <testpil0t!~testpil0t@unaffiliated/testpil0t> has joined #postfix[21:16:22] <testpil0t> My postfix rewrites domains with using recipient_canonical_maps from "a.com" to "b.com". b.com is a virtual domain hosted on the same mailserver. Usually postfix rejects mails that go to invalid users. But not if the domain was rewritten using the canonical maps[21:25:34] <testpil0t> Or short. is there a way to ensure receipient verification for recipient_canonical_maps ?[21:25:48] *** wwl <wwl!~wwl@ipbcc3a2a6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[21:44:57] *** sphenxes <sphenxes!~sphenxes@81-5-247-179.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[22:02:58] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has joined #postfix[22:06:08] *** thms <thms!~thms@unaffiliated/thms> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:06:32] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:07:02] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@194-166-154-53.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[22:08:20] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:18:22] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:18:45] *** Guest43_ <Guest43_!~textual@86.123.182.225> has joined #postfix[22:24:41] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx1.ernw.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:30:31] *** synthroi_ <synthroi_!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has joined #postfix[22:32:22] *** Guest43_ <Guest43_!~textual@86.123.182.225> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[22:33:40] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@208.167.254.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:37:01] <techriskno> not according to; man 5 canonical - @domain entries become a wildcard[22:38:23] <lunaphyte> chances are you would be better off just not using canonical maps, and chances are also that you probably don't need to anyway[22:39:10] *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has joined #postfix[22:49:14] *** synthroi_ <synthroi_!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has quit IRC ()[22:56:51] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[23:04:34] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:09:02] <testpil0t> Thanks for the comments. I just read (on the man page, yeah....) about the special wildcard case... so i dumped the wildcard entries.[23:09:40] <testpil0t> i adjusted my ldap lookup to replace the old domain by the new one when looking up. Seems to work fine.[23:10:08] <testpil0t> Unfortunately, the domain is not rewritten - hence the users will receive mails for different recipients (user@olddomain and user@newdomain).[23:10:17] <testpil0t> But thats acceptable i guess[23:10:46] <testpil0t> At least if I have to decide wether i want backscatter, or "nice" inboxes :p[23:12:38] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:13:39] <spronk> Hi all, have been reading the performance tuning docs but still coming up short as to why my messages spend so long pre queue. ANyone have any insight from a log (https://gist.github.com/spronkey/0d47f0a8879c0620ae59d057e88bacc0) ?[23:13:40] <lunaphyte> it's better for the users if they can see that difference, and know to which address a message was sent[23:17:15] *** _ruben <_ruben!~ruben@2a02:bd0:101:3:1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a> has joined #postfix[23:17:47] <testpil0t> lunaphyte, actually i was hoping for the different way around: I'd like the users to *think* that only the new addresses work, so they stop telling the old ones :p[23:18:01] <lunaphyte> ah, fair :)[23:18:16] <lunaphyte> rewrite the header[23:18:53] <testpil0t> using header_checks?[23:23:27] <testpil0t> or is there a nicer way?[23:29:03] *** sphenxes01 <sphenxes01!~sphenxes@81-5-247-179.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[23:32:28] *** sphenxes <sphenxes!~sphenxes@81-5-247-179.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:39:13] *** Kalavera <Kalavera!~Kalavera@aquiles.novelix.com.pe> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:42:24] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host194-58-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[23:49:26] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[23:57:40] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has joined #postfix[23:58:35] *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has quit IRC (Quit: See you in Isla de Muerte!)[23:58:54] *** caitnop <caitnop!~py@ool-1826eaa1.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:59:23] *** caitnop <caitnop!~py@ool-1826eaa1.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #postfix