February 8, 2017 
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February 8, 2017 [00:01:33] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[00:13:39] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:21:12] <Twinkletoes> I asked a question a while back about the problem of pflogsumm stats being incorrect because of amavis. This is a dedicated outbound relay, just to scan mail. Is it overkill if I stuck a postfix server as another relay that did no checking at all... just to get pflogsumm stats correct?[00:24:32] <JPT> That solely depens on your goal. But it sounds like a lot of work for some numbers. :)[00:25:42] <Twinkletoes> JPT: How would you get some idea of how busy outbound postfix is?[00:26:22] <JPT> I guess the approach with a separate (additional) logfile for outbound mail would be okay. I just don't know how to do that (yet)[00:26:42] <JPT> Otherwise ... postfix probably has some internal counters aswell[00:31:43] <JPT> You could probably pass syslog_facility and syslog_name for the smtp process[00:32:03] <JPT> Perhaps additional work on the side of syslog is needed, but it should be doable[00:32:38] <JPT> Maybe syslog_name is already enough so you can grep your log for a specific keyword and pipe only that into your script[00:33:16] <Twinkletoes> JPT: it would be easy I think, to keep the 'amavis' messages out of mail.log, but postfix also puts its own legitimate messages in there... when the scanned mail is re-inserted, and it has a different ID then, too.[00:33:38] <Twinkletoes> JPT: I did some more hunting around online and many people have tried to adapt pflogsumm over this, and all have said it can't be done reliably[00:33:50] <Twinkletoes> JPT: it's a bummer, but I'll live :)[00:34:32] <JPT> now i want to try this myself[00:34:56] <JPT> I have this amavis->reinject mechanism in my system, too[00:35:17] <Twinkletoes> JPT: interesting - do you already use pflogsumm?[00:35:33] <JPT> no, but i want to check and see if syslog_name does what i expect[00:35:46] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[00:37:09] <JPT> yup, works fine. should be greppable[00:37:52] <JPT> which pastebin is fine here?[00:38:09] <Twinkletoes> JPT: i always use pastebin.ca[00:39:01] <JPT> http://pastebin.ca/3765090[00:41:26] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:47:02] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[00:58:11] *** phunyguy <phunyguy!~torpedo@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye cruel world!)[01:08:10] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[01:15:38] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@unaffiliated/howitdo> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:16:17] *** howitdo 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My postfix as a client needs to work in the event where DNS does not work. What is the best fallback solution where I can force my postfix client to use a specific ipv4 address for my domain @example.com?[15:09:56] <Blinkiz> Am only talking about outgoing emails :)[15:10:55] <Blinkiz> And am only need to be able to reach one domain/mail server in the event where DNS does not work.[15:11:17] <rob0> !transport_maps[15:11:17] <knoba> rob0: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.[15:11:28] <Blinkiz> Is it something with smtp_fallback_relay? Or do I need to use some transport_maps?[15:11:47] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[15:13:18] <lunaphyte> set smtp_host_lookup=dns, native and put the one domain in the hosts file[15:13:59] <Blinkiz> lunaphyte, aa, nice solution :)[15:14:31] <lunaphyte> well, i think it's a crappy solution, but i just don't have time this morning to devote to whatever the *actual* problem is you're trying to solve[15:15:25] <rob0> that might have unintended consequences: example.com might fail in DNS for Postfix, then resolve for the system resolver; you would get the A/AAAA, not the MX[15:15:57] <lunaphyte> if there's an address record, postfix would get it too[15:16:10] <lunaphyte> but i agree, i think it's stupid to do[15:16:17] <rob0> I'm talking about a temporary failure[15:16:23] <Blinkiz> rob0, hmm, you are right. Transport_maps is the best solution then?[15:16:51] <rob0> transport_maps sounds like it would do what you asked[15:17:13] <rob0> maybe smtp_fallback_relay too[15:17:35] <Blinkiz> rob0, great. Thanks for giving me direction what to look into. 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My goal is to write a persistently running program that accepts incoming emails from postfix. I don't want to use a pipe because spinning up my application is a "heavy" task. What features of postfix should I use?[18:15:56] <petn-randall> orion: You could accept data simply via SMTP. Also works on loopback.[18:17:44] <orion> petn-randall: I don't want to implement SMTP.[18:17:59] <orion> I'd rather just work with message headers/bodies.[18:20:09] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p200300868A309E010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[18:21:24] <petn-randall> orion: Are you trying to build a milter?[18:27:21] <orion> I think I am.[18:27:43] <orion> I want to scoop up all incoming emails and process them myself just like you would with a pipe.[18:28:21] <orion> Except, I don't want to merely add or remove headers. I want my application to be that email's final destination.[18:28:36] <orion> I essentially want my application to be a mailbox.[18:28:40] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:29:53] <petn-randall> orion: postfix can also do LMTP.[18:30:39] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[18:30:50] <petn-randall> orion: If you application is the final destination, I can't think of a way right now not to do it via SMTP.[18:31:49] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[18:32:47] <orion> Ok.[18:33:09] <orion> How does `pipe` work exactly? 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IP1 is it's current address.. my postfix logs seem to show postfix still trying to connect at IP1 instead of the hosts entry.. I've tried restarting postfix.. i've also verified that IP2 is the address that is resolved when I ping from the cli. Any ideas where postfix is caching this old IP?[19:31:45] <MacWinner> nevermind.. looks like its cached in my local dns server[19:31:57] *** natan64 <natan64!natan@host74-89-206-40.limes.com.pl> has joined #postfix[19:35:17] *** jeaye <jeaye!~jeaye@unaffiliated/jeaye> has joined #postfix[19:35:30] *** dan_j <dan_j!sid21651@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eljuxkirbmdjvyus> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:35:30] *** ggherdov <ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mhcqfxqgyybdnnbo> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:35:44] *** xpoint <xpoint!sid133359@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jgsseikzrmfmowyd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:35:44] *** nictuku <nictuku!sid154284@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mzcjuozkmyfbosok> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:36:28] <jeaye> Looks like I'm listed on http://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.php?ipr=192.241.218.198 -- can anyone vouch for http://www.whitelisted.org/ ? It seems very sketchy.[19:37:22] *** boxrick1 <boxrick1!sid98261@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-irabuordcobunejf> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:40:32] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[19:40:34] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nljihgzxtopnkepc> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:41:00] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kaivhsshysmuwhpv> has joined #postfix[19:43:01] *** synthroi_ <synthroi_!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:45:06] *** L235 <L235!sid41243@wikipedia/fsf.member.Lixxx235> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:45:08] *** arcanine <arcanine!uid17824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jgfomwbnhulsprck> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:46:21] *** JanC_ <JanC_!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[19:47:38] *** JanC is now known as Guest64203[19:47:38] *** Guest64203 <Guest64203!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Killed (hobana.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[19:47:38] *** JanC_ is now known as JanC[19:47:52] *** orion <orion!~orion@unaffiliated/orion> has left #postfix[19:59:35] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.71.40> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:11:19] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@frozenstar.info> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:20:48] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:22:36] <axisys> what is the conn_use=3 means here? http://dpaste.com/2RDY91N.txt .. it tried few times before and 3rd one was a charm? that was a high delay and not seeing any issue on the realy server[20:23:20] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[20:23:46] *** sphenxes02 <sphenxes02!~sphenxes@193-83-123-224.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:23:54] *** arcanine <arcanine!uid17824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jjdhdhauwnyaohax> has joined #postfix[20:24:52] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host55-138-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[20:26:33] <axisys> I am curious why 658 secs delay.. and there is no log in postfix sender server showing what could be causing the delay[20:26:40] *** armguy <armguy!~adminempi@unaffiliated/adminempire-jl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:27:25] *** armguy <armguy!~adminempi@unaffiliated/adminempire-jl> has joined #postfix[20:28:03] *** ggherdov <ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mrbrwheywuwxdjex> has joined #postfix[20:31:25] *** dan_j <dan_j!sid21651@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nnbnwdbtmjzgsgxm> has joined #postfix[20:32:32] *** bolt <bolt!r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:33:45] *** bolt <bolt!r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[20:34:00] *** GentooStudio is now known as audiodef[20:35:08] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:36:21] *** L235 <L235!sid41243@wikipedia/fsf.member.Lixxx235> has joined #postfix[20:41:11] *** j7k6__ <j7k6__!~j7k6@ip-178-200-140-14.hsi07.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #postfix[20:43:14] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:56:39] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.73.202> has joined #postfix[20:59:12] *** xpoint_ <xpoint_!sid133359@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pzfjcgbhbcerskpm> has joined #postfix[21:03:31] *** boxrick1 <boxrick1!sid98261@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qwpubmcmvykmfbwk> has joined #postfix[21:06:16] *** nictuku <nictuku!sid154284@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aevkroeulchuvjmx> has joined #postfix[21:14:24] *** acosonic_ <acosonic_!~acosonic@cable-24-135-31-250.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #postfix[21:15:35] *** thms <thms!~thms@unaffiliated/thms> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:21:56] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host55-138-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:22:36] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host55-138-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #postfix[21:28:28] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@host55-138-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:37:08] *** dka_ <dka_!~dka@42.117.168.137> has joined #postfix[21:37:38] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@frozenstar.info> has joined #postfix[21:38:03] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[21:38:52] *** dka_ <dka_!~dka@42.117.168.137> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[21:39:19] *** dka_ <dka_!~dka@42.117.168.137> has joined #postfix[21:39:48] *** j7k6_ <j7k6_!~j7k6@62.112.80.25> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:40:42] *** dka <dka!~dka@1.52.58.230> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:47:19] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has joined #postfix[21:48:51] *** acosonic_ <acosonic_!~acosonic@cable-24-135-31-250.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: acosonic_)[21:51:16] *** JohnDoe2 <JohnDoe2!~johndoe2@regex.cf> has left #postfix[22:06:47] *** j7k6__ <j7k6__!~j7k6@ip-178-200-140-14.hsi07.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:15:36] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx2.ernw.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:17:31] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:23:37] *** sm311 <sm311!~sm311@138.36.57.5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:23:46] *** v1n4x <v1n4x!~v1n4x@unaffiliated/v1n4x> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:24:32] *** DarkFeather <DarkFeather!~DarkFeath@96-41-230-196.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com> has joined #postfix[22:28:31] <DarkFeather> Hello, all -- I have Postfix set up to handle emails leaving my machine, and it seems to handle those just fine when I use the mail command. However, trying the telnet test fails with "Temporary lookup failure"[22:29:00] <DarkFeather> I have my main.cf here: https://ptpb.pw/QvA- and test output here: https://ptpb.pw/Ltxh[22:29:04] <patdk-lap> !tell DarkFeather getting_help[22:29:05] <knoba> DarkFeather: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[22:29:25] <DarkFeather> ooops. patdk-lap sorry, two pastebins...[22:29:33] <DarkFeather> !relevant_logs[22:29:33] <knoba> DarkFeather: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[22:29:36] <patdk-lap> and the logs? and the rest of the configs?[22:29:50] <patdk-lap> hell, any *real* configs, cause that one is useless[22:30:20] <DarkFeather> patdk-lap: That's the only config I modified away from the default.[22:30:34] <patdk-lap> !showconfig[22:30:34] <knoba> patdk-lap: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[22:31:33] <DarkFeather> OK, can send -- one sec. Nothing helpful in the logs. https://ptpb.pw/PT-C[22:32:00] <patdk-lap> nothing helpful?[22:32:07] <DarkFeather> https://ptpb.pw/CYRO[22:32:08] <patdk-lap> do you not see all those errors and warnings[22:32:16] <patdk-lap> how do you classify that is, not helpful[22:32:23] <patdk-lap> it's yelling at you, fix me, and you say not helpful[22:32:38] <DarkFeather> patdk-lap: Is the subnet masking error really causing a username resolution problem off of /etc/passwd?[22:33:15] <patdk-lap> Feb 08 12:42:03 Core postfix/local[4383]: error: open database /etc/postfix/aliases.db: No such file or directory[22:33:15] <patdk-lap> Feb 08 12:42:03 Core postfix/local[4383]: warning: hash:/etc/postfix/aliases is unavailable. open database /etc/postfix/aliases.db: No such file or directory[22:33:15] <patdk-lap> Feb 08 12:42:03 Core postfix/local[4383]: warning: hash:/etc/postfix/aliases: lookup of 'cxford' failed[22:33:25] <patdk-lap> what are you talking about?[22:33:45] *** arcanine <arcanine!uid17824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jjdhdhauwnyaohax> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:34:41] <DarkFeather> Sorry, was looking too far down when you said "all those errors and warnings" -- that file does exist and newaliases has been run... -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12288 Feb 8 14:01 /etc/postfix/aliases.db[22:34:55] <patdk-lap> well, the request was for a SINGLE MAIL TRANSACTION that shows the issue[22:35:00] <patdk-lap> I looked at the first issue you showed[22:35:14] <patdk-lap> why should I have to dig around you logs to find the *issue* you are talking about, out of all of your other issues[22:35:53] <patdk-lap> " show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help"[22:35:57] <DarkFeather> ... Tried not to make you with the test output in my second pastebin... I'm looking for non-MySQL causes of the 4.5.1 message "Temporary lookup failure"[22:36:37] <DarkFeather> So, lesson learned: Be better at single-pastebins rather than multi.[22:36:42] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC ()[22:37:04] <DarkFeather> Can we start over and I put everything relevant into a single pastebin for you?[22:37:16] <patdk-lap> put something current in it[22:37:21] <patdk-lap> like the current config[22:37:26] <patdk-lap> and a *new* mail sample[22:37:45] <patdk-lap> so that we know the logs match what happens with your current config[22:39:53] <DarkFeather> https://ptpb.pw/HTWQ Here's everything, matching current config and the single test sample run.[22:44:07] <patdk-lap> my only guess, mynetworks needs to be fixed[22:44:11] <patdk-lap> correct the warning[22:44:37] <DarkFeather> OK, I'll take care of that and try... One sec.[22:45:10] *** jeaye <jeaye!~jeaye@unaffiliated/jeaye> has left #postfix[22:48:47] <DarkFeather> SOooooo weird and counterintuitive. OK, that's fixed and no further warnings in the logs. I'll make a note in my documentation that username resolution can depend on network matching... Thanks for the help, and sorry for the swirl around singly pastebinning.[22:49:05] <patdk-lap> well, it wouldn't have[22:49:10] <patdk-lap> except mynetworks was bad[22:49:17] <patdk-lap> and the default restriction is to use mynetworks first[22:49:25] <patdk-lap> so it caused everything to fail[22:50:02] <DarkFeather> Mmkay. Some education for me around Postfix then -- I'll do some more reading on how restrictions are done. Only trying to use this as an outbound relay anyways, so that buys me some breathing room. Thanks![22:50:38] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[22:50:49] <lunaphyte> i would *really* encourage you to set mynetworks to empty[22:50:52] <patdk-lap> so much easier to debug the issue when you aren't wading through your whole history of logs :)[22:51:14] <lunaphyte> it's just not something that can really be passed off as responsible system administration any more these days[22:51:28] <patdk-lap> blank mynetworks is really perferred, requires proper configuration of anything that sends mail locally though[22:51:52] <patdk-lap> wish nothing used sendmail, but they do :([22:51:56] <lunaphyte> pretty trivial task for even the most inexperienced system administrator[22:52:43] <patdk-lap> depends on what the system is running, and if the sysadm has rights to make modifications to the app[22:53:28] <lunaphyte> that's pretty much fud[22:53:52] <lunaphyte> a sysadmin who is running a mail system on a server is not going to be unable to set up a null client.[22:54:01] <DarkFeather> Arch has replaced sendmail with Postfix, so death to sendmail anyway.[22:54:26] <DarkFeather> From a security standpoint, though, doesn't setting mynetworks prevent someone using my host as a spam relay?[22:54:27] <lunaphyte> that's not detah to sendmail in the context we're talking about[22:54:49] <DarkFeather> Are you talking about OS processes generating mail?[22:55:00] <lunaphyte> postfix provides the sendmail command for compatibility purposes, just like the sendmail mta provided the sendmail command[22:55:06] <DarkFeather> mmmm[22:56:15] <patdk-lap> lunaphyte, that is my point[22:56:28] <patdk-lap> how is a nullclient any more secure than running the sendmail command?[22:56:37] <patdk-lap> are removing localhost from mynetworks[22:56:39] <patdk-lap> it's not[22:57:02] <patdk-lap> I perfer to not allow any nullclient or sendmail or mynetworks access, but require auth for everything[22:57:17] <lunaphyte> that's absurd. of course it's more secure[22:57:20] <patdk-lap> I want to know the app that is running was allowed to send[22:57:32] <lunaphyte> that's *exactly* the entire point of a null client[22:58:16] <patdk-lap> the most a nullclient can do is tell you what user invoked it[22:58:41] <lunaphyte> wrong[22:59:04] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:02:20] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:02:28] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.73.202> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:04:01] *** mcox <mcox!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has joined #postfix[23:04:16] <DarkFeather> So, I need the postfix relay for OSSEC, and OSSEC doesn't presently use any auth criteria.[23:04:31] <DarkFeather> http://ossec-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/output/standard-email-output.html[23:04:34] *** leprechau <leprechau!fwo2psqh0c@c-67-187-127-110.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:04:58] <lunaphyte> ideally, yes, applications would use proper submission, and thus encryption and smtp auth[23:05:15] <DarkFeather> Most of my OS scripts have OS users with a .mailrc that allows smarter auth, but OSSEC's behind the times.[23:05:23] <patdk-lap> well, that appears to have horrible documentation, but atleast uses smtp[23:05:25] <lunaphyte> however, for those which are deficient in this area, a null client can be used[23:05:34] <patdk-lap> it should use submission, not document pointing right to an mx[23:05:43] <DarkFeather> OSSEC's a weird project to implemetn so far.[23:05:52] <lunaphyte> yes, that is irresponsible guidance[23:06:29] <DarkFeather> Sooo.... Can I get you guys to put in a bug report, since you're more knowledgeable than me, and make life better for everyone? :D[23:07:01] *** sm311 <sm311!~sm311@138.36.57.5> has joined #postfix[23:07:09] *** v1n4x <v1n4x!~v1n4x@138.36.57.5> has joined #postfix[23:07:19] <DarkFeather> https://github.com/ossec/ossec-hids ?[23:08:06] <patdk-lap> that doesn't like like a place to report bugs about their documentation[23:08:21] *** leprechau <leprechau!tsopzxq5eh@c-67-187-127-110.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> has joined #postfix[23:09:05] <patdk-lap> https://github.com/ossec/ossec-docs/blob/master/docs/manual/output/standard-email-output.rst[23:10:39] <DarkFeather> That would be the document, but I was thinking an enhancement request for the project to support authentication to an SMTP relay would be better.[23:11:09] <DarkFeather> I wouldn't need to use a local postfix relay if OSSEC could authenticate to the gmail account I'm using for notifications.[23:11:48] <lunaphyte> can't ossec use the sendmail command?[23:11:53] *** mcox <mcox!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:12:23] *** mcox <mcox!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has joined #postfix[23:13:50] <rob0> sendmail(1) is NOT the Sendmail MTA. That would be sendmail(8)[23:14:30] <rob0> oh, I guess that was already covered :)[23:14:47] *** mcox_ <mcox_!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has joined #postfix[23:15:07] *** mcox <mcox!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:15:58] <patdk-lap> heh, it has a roll-my-own smtp sender for mail and sms[23:16:00] <rob0> scrollback does otherwise indicate that this might be a good use for a null client[23:16:05] <patdk-lap> without any tls, ssl, or auth[23:16:17] <patdk-lap> https://github.com/ossec/ossec-hids/blob/master/src/os_maild/sendmail.c[23:17:16] <patdk-lap> must be why they needed a different sendsms function, cause you have to hardcode the domains mx servers to get it to work[23:17:49] <rob0> yikes[23:18:01] <patdk-lap> and it won't lookup mx, only A entries[23:20:16] <patdk-lap> oh it will use sendmail[23:20:24] <patdk-lap> if the servername is set to /.......[23:21:15] <patdk-lap> hardcoded to only use port 25, ever[23:22:25] <patdk-lap> set the smtp hostname/servername to /usr/bin/sendmail :)[23:22:59] <patdk-lap> then configure msmtp to send to gmail using your account[23:26:52] *** mcox_ <mcox_!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:30:00] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:5c58:36df:fff9:132e> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:30:07] *** mjr0 <mjr0!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has joined #postfix[23:30:14] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:5c58:36df:fff9:132e> has joined #postfix[23:35:50] <mjr0> Hi everone! I'm having the problem that on reboot my postfix resolv.conf is empty. I've already set up smtpd to not be chrooted. I've read somewhere it is a problem when Postfix loads faster than the network services after boot. Can this be true? Regardless, what could be the most simple / elegant fix for this?[23:36:29] *** j7k6_ <j7k6_!~j7k6@62.112.80.25> has joined #postfix[23:36:59] <pj> mjr0: so it's just during boot and when you go to restart postfix it's fine?[23:37:37] *** sm311 <sm311!~sm311@138.36.57.5> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:37:54] *** sm311 <sm311!~sm311@138.36.57.5> has joined #postfix[23:37:58] *** v1n4x <v1n4x!~v1n4x@138.36.57.5> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:38:08] <pj> mjr0: what OS/distro are you on?[23:38:35] *** v1n4x <v1n4x!~v1n4x@138.36.57.5> has joined #postfix[23:39:11] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:1999:7f27:6c5f:2e68> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[23:40:52] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:dd82:417:f118:1ff3> has joined #postfix[23:41:46] *** j7k6_ <j7k6_!~j7k6@62.112.80.25> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:45:59] <mjr0> pj: checking that now, running Ubuntu 16.10 server[23:48:36] <mjr0> pj: cant at the moment, server is being used so I cannot reboot at the moment; but I actually believe it also not to work after reloading/restarting, so it indeed does not sound like a boot related thing[23:51:33] <mjr0> pj: I was wrong, just rebooted and it is in fact populating the resolv.conf after service postfix restart[23:54:22] *** armguy <armguy!~adminempi@unaffiliated/adminempire-jl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)