February 7, 2017 
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February 7, 2017 [00:01:01] <lunaphyte> what is postconf mail_version[00:02:04] *** sphenxes01 <sphenxes01!~sphenxes@192-164-141-0.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[00:05:19] *** sphenxes02 <sphenxes02!~sphenxes@81-5-252-139.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:05:56] <Keitaro> i don't know how can i have it ? when i search on google it said postconf -d but that didn't work[00:08:45] <patdk-wk> if postconf doesn't work, you likely don't have postfix installed[00:12:59] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:14:46] <rob0> what error do you get when you run these commands?[00:15:31] <Keitaro> rob0, but i can send mail with postfix server using mutt or mail command[00:16:11] <Keitaro> but i can't receive here are some logs : Feb 7 00:07:08 roucoups postfix/smtpd[4725]: connect from nm18.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com[212.82.96.41][00:16:11] <Keitaro> Feb 7 00:07:08 roucoups postfix/smtpd[4725]: warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth failed: No such file or directory[00:16:11] <Keitaro> Feb 7 00:07:08 roucoups postfix/smtpd[4725]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms[00:16:11] <Keitaro> Feb 7 00:07:09 roucoups postfix/master[2408]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 4725 exit status 1[00:16:13] <Keitaro> Feb 7 00:07:09 roucoups postfix/master[2408]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling[00:16:46] <rob0> that should have gone in your pastebin, please don't do that again, thanks.[00:17:26] <Keitaro> postconf -nf[00:17:27] <Keitaro> postconf: fatal: invalid private field ???" in "dovecot unix ??? n n ??? ??? pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/dovecot-lda -f ${sender} -d ${recipient}"[00:17:36] <rob0> Anyway, it seems that you have enabled Dovecot auth via a socket at private/auth, but the socket does not exist.[00:20:06] <Keitaro> yes and i dont know how to fix that :/[00:21:50] <Keitaro> do you want me to upload my main.cf file ?[00:22:05] <rob0> no[00:22:19] <rob0> what OS is this on?[00:22:38] <rob0> Debian?[00:22:55] <Keitaro> her is my main.cf http://pastebin.com/w1UxAHiE[00:23:00] <Keitaro> yes debian[00:23:02] <Keitaro> last version[00:23:28] <Keitaro> Debian 3.16.39-1[00:23:43] <rob0> but how did you edit master.cf to add that line you mentioned ^^ above?[00:24:23] *** mactimes is now known as mactimes_[00:24:34] <Keitaro> her is my master.cf http://pastebin.com/HSWapnkQ[00:25:04] <Keitaro> it can't be ban i am still learning and starting it is my first time i configure a mail server using some tutorial on the net :/[00:25:47] *** dh <dh!dh@bsd.ee> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:25:53] *** dh__ <dh__!dh@bsd.ee> has joined #postfix[00:28:09] *** Dessa_ <Dessa_!~Dessa@pku74f0o.dip0.t-iqconnect.de> has joined #postfix[00:28:42] *** chaas <chaas!~quassel@moss.workaround.org> has joined #postfix[00:28:43] *** xpoint_ <xpoint_!sid133359@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jgsseikzrmfmowyd> has joined #postfix[00:28:43] *** BlubberBop <BlubberBop!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[00:28:58] <Keitaro> rob0, i just edit it and add the line in the file is it bad configurations ?[00:29:10] *** zerick_ <zerick_!~zerick@104.131.101.65> has joined #postfix[00:29:35] *** dtm__ <dtm__!~dtm@v2.smuckola.org> has joined #postfix[00:29:41] *** shaytan_ <shaytan_!~shaytan@c-83-233-76-171.cust.bredband2.com> has joined #postfix[00:29:42] *** doppo_ <doppo_!doppo@2604:180::e0fc:a07f> has joined #postfix[00:29:45] *** voidy_ <voidy_!~tom@gateway.t0mb.net> has joined #postfix[00:30:04] *** ced117_ <ced117_!~ced117@ghost.ced117.net> has joined #postfix[00:30:08] *** RadoQ <RadoQ!~cheater@unaffiliated/radoq> has quit IRC (Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[00:30:16] *** RadoQ <RadoQ!~cheater@unaffiliated/radoq> has joined #postfix[00:30:32] *** namix_ <namix_!~namix@bla.mode42.net> has joined #postfix[00:30:43] *** Dessa_ <Dessa_!~Dessa@pku74f0o.dip0.t-iqconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:30:43] *** Dessa_ <Dessa_!~Dessa@kvirc/staff/Dessa> has joined #postfix[00:32:07] *** Kronuz_ <Kronuz_!~Kronuz@unaffiliated/kronuz> has joined #postfix[00:32:55] <rob0> HOW <-- HOW did you edit? Did you use a native file editor software, or a word processor, or hand tools like hammers and screwdrivers, or what?[00:33:12] *** Jikai <Jikai!~Jikan@2001:41d0:8:7844::8> has joined #postfix[00:33:12] *** Marc3l_ <Marc3l_!~Marc3l@2a01:4f8:151:22a3::4> has joined #postfix[00:33:12] *** not_phunyguy <not_phunyguy!~torpedo@ubuntu/member/phunyguy> has joined #postfix[00:33:12] *** rednul_ <rednul_!~rednul@219.163.48.199.static.reverse.as19531.net> has joined #postfix[00:33:13] *** a_west- <a_west-!~a_west@82-183-13-131.customers.ownit.se> has joined #postfix[00:33:20] *** dakar- <dakar-!void@unaffiliated/dakar> has joined #postfix[00:33:25] <rob0> the "???" in your error suggests that it wasn't plain ASCII[00:33:35] *** ueberall <ueberall!~ueberall@node1.projektzentrisch.de> has joined #postfix[00:33:35] *** ueberall <ueberall!~ueberall@node1.projektzentrisch.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:33:35] *** ueberall <ueberall!~ueberall@unaffiliated/ueberall> has joined #postfix[00:33:39] 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*.split)[00:34:31] *** nate <nate!NBishop@pdpc/supporter/monthlybronze/synapt> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:34:31] *** Dessa <Dessa!~Dessa@kvirc/staff/Dessa> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:34:32] *** dakar- is now known as dakar[00:34:32] *** monkeynutz is now known as monkeynuts[00:34:32] *** Kronuz_ is now known as Kronuz[00:34:32] *** not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy[00:34:33] *** doppo_ is now known as doppo[00:34:47] *** fiddlerwoaroof <fiddlerwoaroof!~fiddlerwo@unaffiliated/fiddlerwoaroof> has joined #postfix[00:34:54] *** xpoint_ is now known as xpoint[00:35:05] *** ueberall is now known as uebera||[00:35:16] *** synapt <synapt!NBishop@pdpc/supporter/monthlybronze/synapt> has joined #postfix[00:35:37] *** kevr <kevr!~kevr@unaffiliated/kevr> has joined #postfix[00:35:58] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[00:36:20] <Keitaro> true i did some copy paste and will rewrite that[00:37:27] *** Xjs|moonshine <Xjs|moonshine!moon@chrysostomos.aoide.de> has joined #postfix[00:37:32] <Keitaro> rob0, now postconf -nf work i do a poste[00:38:27] <Keitaro> rob0, here for postconf -nf http://pastebin.com/9pFN5MsL[00:38:54] <rob0> also, most tutorials suck; most are written by people who barely understood what they did, people who should not be writing documentation[00:38:58] <rob0> !basic[00:38:59] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[00:39:17] <rob0> !factoids search sasl[00:39:17] <knoba> rob0: 'broken_sasl_auth_clients', 'lmtp_sasl_auth_enable', 'lmtp_sasl_password_maps', 'lmtp_sasl_security_options', 'smtp_sasl_auth_enable', 'smtp_sasl_password_maps', 'smtp_sasl_security_options', 'smtpd_sasl_application_name', 'smtpd_sasl_auth_enable', 'smtpd_sasl_exceptions_networks', 'smtpd_sasl_local_domain', 'smtpd_sasl_security_options', 'clientsasl', 'saslchroot', 'saslfinger', 'serversasl', 'sasl_readme', 'sasl', 'saslclient'[00:39:31] <rob0> !factoids search dovecot[00:39:31] <knoba> rob0: 'dovecot_lmtp', 'dovecot_lda', and 'dovecot'[00:39:51] <Keitaro> for postconf -mf http://pastebin.com/fUXHM70t[00:40:53] *** armguy <armguy!~adminempi@unaffiliated/adminempire-jl> has joined #postfix[00:41:27] *** peb` <peb`!~Coin@unaffiliated/peb/x-8260976> has joined #postfix[00:41:30] *** WakiMiko <WakiMiko!~WakiMiko@unaffiliated/wakimiko> has joined #postfix[00:42:58] *** johnny56_ <johnny56_!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:44:09] *** epopt <epopt!~epopt@47.149.151.118> has joined #postfix[00:47:18] <Keitaro> rob0, i have a question[00:47:54] <Keitaro> so i can't receive mail from outside because of the socket between postfix and dovecot didn't work or because of the sasl which didn't work ?[00:55:15] <rob0> socket was not found. Dovecot is supposed to create that. It did not, for some reason (or maybe the name/path is wrong.)[00:57:15] <Keitaro> yes because i don't know why because of that socket my dovecot didn't start[00:57:48] <rob0> if Dovecot is not running, obviously, the socket can't be there.[00:59:35] <Keitaro> do yo know how to config dovecot rob0 ? because on the dovecot chan nobody andwer of speack since yesterday :/[01:06:49] *** synapt is now known as nate[01:07:37] *** systeem <systeem!~systeem@2001:bc8:24e8:800:a:27ba:0:c9f1> has joined #postfix[01:11:27] *** johnny56_ <johnny56_!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has joined #postfix[01:15:15] *** Pies <Pies!~Pies@srv229.opcja.pl> has joined #postfix[01:16:09] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[01:18:22] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:18:40] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[01:35:19] *** mroe <mroe!~roe@unaffiliated/roe> has joined #postfix[01:39:32] *** Cuzner <Cuzner!~ccuzner@192-0-132-105.cpe.teksavvy.com> has joined #postfix[01:41:09] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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See also: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_dovecot[03:05:20] <rob0> Keitaro, ^^[03:05:35] *** guerilla <guerilla!~mxro@195.13.41.220> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:06:17] *** guerilla <guerilla!~mxro@195.13.41.220> has joined #postfix[03:07:07] *** Qommand0r <Qommand0r!~HENKiE@unaffiliated/schaap137> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:07:15] *** SCHAAP137 <SCHAAP137!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[03:07:53] *** baggykiin <baggykiin!baggykiin@hubble.jgeluk.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:12:37] *** baggykiin <baggykiin!baggykiin@hubble.jgeluk.net> has joined #postfix[03:13:03] *** SCHAAP137 <SCHAAP137!~schapie@unaffiliated/schaap137> has joined #postfix[03:14:57] *** Qommand0r <Qommand0r!~HENKiE@unaffiliated/schaap137> has joined #postfix[03:22:34] *** johnny56_ <johnny56_!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[03:24:57] *** johnny56_ 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<pijiu2!~pijiu@unaffiliated/pijiu> has joined #postfix[11:20:59] *** Bheam <Bheam!~Bheam@213.236.211.98> has joined #postfix[11:21:05] *** pijiu <pijiu!~pijiu@unaffiliated/pijiu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:21:06] <Bheam> yo[11:21:21] <Bheam> what's the correct way to set the hostname for outgoing EHLO ?[11:21:36] <Bheam> i see a million ways but everything causes some problems[11:21:55] <Bheam> problem is some libraries do EHLO localhost[11:22:11] <Bheam> i can't very well change the hostname of 127.0.0.1 in hosts[11:24:14] *** grossing <grossing!GC7O9vWGJu@pdpc/supporter/silver/grossing> has quit IRC (Quit: "Dummheit dui ischd so, selbr merkt mr nix drvo" (August Lämmle, 1876-1962))[11:24:27] *** grossing <grossing!hES3XHC1k4@pdpc/supporter/silver/grossing> has joined #postfix[11:24:27] <survietamine> millions ways? wow[11:25:30] <Bheam> at least[11:27:15] <Bheam> hrrm might have found it.. Zend is re tarded[11:30:00] <survietamine> zend? php?[11:35:00] <Bheam> yea was using smtp directly, and had localhost as default ehlo[11:35:20] <Bheam> anyhow i have another question that can't be answered :p[11:35:38] <survietamine> I don't know much zend, but isn't it using mail() function directly?[11:35:46] <Bheam> naa pure smtp[11:35:53] <survietamine> hmm[11:36:05] <Bheam> well probably options, but this solution was set up for smtp[11:36:22] <Bheam> so instead of trying to change that and run into other problems, i found out how to change ehlo[11:36:24] <survietamine> so, on that server, the hostname command outputs: localhost[11:36:25] <survietamine> ?[11:36:43] <Bheam> nope[11:36:45] <survietamine> sure, you have several hostname settings in postfix[11:37:32] <Bheam> yea i guess my "millions" was more about across postfix and sendmail :p[11:38:06] <survietamine> I don't know much sendmail, but IIRC, postfix has less than 1500 settings, so, not 1 million[11:38:13] <Bheam> anyway, bit off topic question.. about 4 months ago, i had an incident on my mail server, someone had their account hacked, and it took some time before i managed to stop the spam[11:38:27] <Bheam> so i had no rate limiting in place and a few 100k emails slipped through[11:38:35] <survietamine> yeah, compromised accounts are evile[11:38:37] <Bheam> sad story[11:38:37] <survietamine> yeah, compromised accounts are evil[11:38:41] *** natan64 <natan64!natan@host74-89-206-40.limes.com.pl> has left #postfix[11:38:41] *** natan64 <natan64!natan@host74-89-206-40.limes.com.pl> has joined #postfix[11:38:43] <Bheam> SO[11:38:44] <survietamine> I dealed with that too[11:38:55] <survietamine> now, there are stopped quickly[11:38:57] <Bheam> gmail, hotmail, live, outlook are still refusing email from me[11:38:58] *** natan64 <natan64!natan@host74-89-206-40.limes.com.pl> has left #postfix[11:39:09] <Bheam> i've submitted all of their forms, multiple times[11:39:23] <survietamine> that's wised from them[11:39:38] <Bheam> that is. i'm getting the silent reject. they say they accept the emails, but they never end up in end user mailbox[11:39:58] <Bheam> do i have to change isp to get a new ip block or what :p[11:40:00] <survietamine> which mailbox?[11:40:03] <survietamine> inbox?[11:40:33] <survietamine> that would depend of the reason of refusing, but you said they accept your message[11:40:37] *** natan_ <natan_!natan@host74-89-206-40.limes.com.pl> has joined #postfix[11:40:53] <survietamine> hopefully, I have /26[11:40:57] <Bheam> well gmail works[11:40:58] <survietamine> and will get more[11:41:19] <Bheam> but ms network doesn't delivery it to any mailbox at all[11:41:49] <survietamine> hey, just say magic word here "Microsoft", we have a big fan in this channel[11:42:25] *** natan_ <natan_!natan@host74-89-206-40.limes.com.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting)[11:42:31] *** natan_ <natan_!natan@host74-89-206-40.limes.com.pl> has joined #postfix[11:43:23] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[11:43:36] <natan_> hello[11:44:06] <natan_> rob0 ehlo[11:46:00] <natan_> postfix users i have one problem with timing in postfix[11:46:35] <natan_> in this same addres i have two different delay timing:[11:46:36] <natan_> delay=1.1 delays=0.05/0/1/0.01[11:46:46] <natan_> and delay=30 delays=0.05/0/30/0.01[11:46:57] <natan_> https://dpaste.de/EbEP[11:47:00] <natan_> more info[11:47:10] <natan_> i dont known why[11:48:04] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[11:52:34] *** animale <animale!3a40b939@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.64.185.57> has joined #postfix[11:53:10] *** Mac_Write <Mac_Write!~Mac@d50-98-216-22.bchsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:56:11] *** Steelpan <Steelpan!~Steelpan@193.191.158.63> has joined #postfix[11:56:11] *** Steelpan <Steelpan!~Steelpan@193.191.158.63> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:01:50] *** animale <animale!3a40b939@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.64.185.57> has left #postfix[12:02:02] *** animale <animale!3a40b939@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.64.185.57> has joined #postfix[12:02:45] <animale> hi, i want config postfix in multiple instances mode, but if wrapped in Docker container, that may be unnecessary ?[12:07:39] *** animale <animale!3a40b939@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.64.185.57> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[12:10:29] * jaybe blinks[12:30:25] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.71.40> has joined #postfix[12:50:10] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.46.82.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:00:42] *** jozza <jozza!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jozza> has joined #postfix[13:02:45] <jozza> how can i log mysql queries postfix/virtual executes? i enabled verbose on virtual, but sql queries are still not displayed[13:27:43] <Bheam> omg i got an email through to outlook.com[13:29:51] <Bheam> can someone please please help me skim through the headers and look for flaws that could cause deliverability issues? O:)[13:30:01] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br> has joined #postfix[13:32:30] <survietamine> if you give more infos about the problem, perhraps[13:40:51] *** jozza <jozza!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jozza> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131])[13:44:10] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[13:46:45] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@23.23.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[13:48:40] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:50:41] <patdk-lap> !tell Bheam getting_help[13:50:42] <knoba> Bheam: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[13:51:58] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:53:42] <natan_> any idea ?[13:53:47] <natan_> https://dpaste.de/EbEP[13:54:25] <patdk-lap> that paste is unreadable[13:55:13] <natan_> https://dpaste.de/EbEP[13:55:19] <natan_> work fine[13:55:35] <patdk-lap> it's a multicolored hell that is not readable[13:55:44] <patdk-lap> !pastebin[13:55:44] <knoba> patdk-lap: "pastebin" : a pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, or pastebin.ca. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[13:55:54] <natan_> https://dpaste.de/JBv3[13:55:59] <natan_> thats new[13:56:01] <survietamine> https://dpaste.de/EbEP/raw[13:56:03] <survietamine> :)[13:56:34] <natan_> survietamine :)[13:56:46] <survietamine> but still, pasting main.cf is not what is in factoids like !showconfig[13:57:24] <patdk-lap> natan, so the server gave you a greet pause, what is the big deal?[13:57:44] <survietamine> unless it's your server :p[13:57:50] <survietamine> and you didn't want that[13:58:03] *** mattcen <mattcen!~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #postfix[14:01:03] <survietamine> Bheam: if it's again same problem you stated earlier, the fact that your are DNSBListed because some compromised account, there not much thing you can do.[14:01:22] <survietamine> Except asking delisting for sites that accept it[14:02:05] <survietamine> damn, my english is so bad :/[14:03:31] <Bheam> i'm off all dnsbl's[14:03:53] <Bheam> microsoft has their own graylist/blacklisting systems[14:04:16] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has joined #postfix[14:04:45] <Bheam> Anyway here's pastebin of the mail that went through, if anyone has time to see if there's anything suspicious in headers i appreciate it: http://pastebin.com/gLyk0hZi[14:05:37] *** synthroi_ <synthroi_!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[14:05:52] <lunaphyte> i'm a little confused.[14:06:07] <lunaphyte> mail is arriving at outlook, but you're having deliverability issues?[14:06:39] <Bheam> in general, yes, but i got this one through[14:06:48] <lunaphyte> i see[14:06:52] <lunaphyte> what is the symptom?[14:07:09] <Bheam> outlook silently deleting it before it reaches any inbox[14:07:16] <thumbs> you're lucky outlook didn't silently drop the mesage[14:07:18] <Bheam> outlook.com webmail that is[14:07:24] <thumbs> yes, they do that.[14:07:36] <lunaphyte> the outlook mail servers accept the message from postfix and indicate all is well?[14:07:43] <Bheam> they always do[14:07:50] <thumbs> yes, then they drop the message[14:07:53] <lunaphyte> so, yes?[14:08:04] <Bheam> but they have some built in server reputation calculations or something that causes messages to silently drop[14:08:14] <Bheam> yes[14:08:29] <survietamine> no FBL for outlook?[14:08:30] <lunaphyte> the message is not in the spam folder, or some other place like that? it is altogether gone?[14:08:38] <Bheam> my thoughts is, let me atleast have all my headers correct, so i've done my part[14:08:40] <cpm> what Bheam said. THe deliveries all look fine.[14:09:22] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@50.202.5.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[14:09:23] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167F14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[14:09:46] <Bheam> i had a major attack about 4 months ago that caused the problems, it looks like it's getting better now though since i actually got an email through[14:10:40] <lunaphyte> for starters, participate in their feedback loop[14:10:45] <Bheam> done[14:11:01] <Bheam> it's not like they feed anything back[14:11:11] <lunaphyte> they haven't?[14:11:16] <Bheam> according to their monitoring site everything looks fine[14:11:22] <lunaphyte> then i'd raise that issue with them[14:11:36] <Bheam> my question to you expert guys still stand tho :p[14:12:41] <thumbs> there is no right answer when it comes to lookout's email services and deliverability[14:12:54] <thumbs> other than talking to them, of course[14:13:06] <Bheam> lol[14:14:12] <Bheam> well my question is, is my Received headers / spf / dkim working as it should, is there anything in there that could cause any flagging at all[14:14:45] <lunaphyte> did you verify your dkim signature is valid?[14:14:52] <lunaphyte> !dkim_check[14:14:52] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: "dkim_check" is not a valid command.[14:14:55] <lunaphyte> bah[14:14:59] <lunaphyte> !dkimcheck[14:14:59] <knoba> lunaphyte: "dkimcheck" : You can check your spf / dkim / domain-keys settings by sending an email to check-auth at verifier dot port25.com. It will auto-respond with some debug informations about your settings and spam-score. or you can use this wob site: http://www.myiptest.com/staticpages/index.php/DomainKeys-DKIM-SPF-Validator-test[14:15:56] <lunaphyte> it would also be good to show a sample message from an email delivered elswhere - one that doesn't add three pages of garbage microsoft headers[14:16:19] *** blackroot <blackroot!remi@unaffiliated/blackroot> has joined #postfix[14:16:51] <Bheam> trying that dkim checker, sounds good[14:17:22] <Bheam> true, i thought the garbage headers might indicate what MS would think about the message tho, which is really what it's all about[14:18:28] <lunaphyte> also, it looks like you're signing with dkim, and *then* passing through amavis?[14:19:15] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[14:19:46] <lunaphyte> they seem to think you dkim is valid, so that's good, but it's always good to check it[14:20:35] <lunaphyte> publishing dmarc data would also be good[14:21:05] *** gabizou <gabizou!~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:21:05] <lunaphyte> !tell Bheam long_queue_ids[14:21:05] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: No factoid matches that key.[14:21:38] <lunaphyte> !tell Bheam enable_long_queue_ids[14:21:38] <knoba> Bheam: "enable_long_queue_ids" : Enable long, non-repeating, queue IDs (queue file names). The benefit of non-repeating names is simpler logfile analysis and easier queue migration (there is no need to run postsuper to change queue file names that don't match their message file inode number). See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#enable_long_queue_ids[14:21:54] <lunaphyte> on a side note, ^[14:27:43] <natan_> enable_long_queue_ids = yes[14:28:08] <natan_> this is not resolv problem with delays[14:28:20] <lunaphyte> why would it?[14:28:39] <natan_> sory for my bad english[14:28:56] <natan_> beacuse i turn on enable_long_queue_ids[14:29:02] <lunaphyte> good[14:29:29] <natan_> but some times i get "big dleays"[14:29:54] <natan_> delay=30, delays=0.31/0/30/0.09, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent[14:30:18] <natan_> or[14:30:20] <natan_> delay=3.4, delays=0.99/0/0.33/2.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent[14:30:36] <natan_> this is this same server[14:30:44] <natan_> this same e-mail addres[14:31:03] <natan_> i tested DNS filters mysql ldap[14:31:10] <natan_> every time is fast[14:31:14] <survietamine> and you thought that long_queue_id would help?[14:31:18] <natan_> this is this same infratsrukture[14:31:20] <lunaphyte> !tell natan_ delay_logging_resolution_limit[14:31:20] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: No factoid matches that key.[14:31:30] <lunaphyte> meh[14:31:47] <lunaphyte> well, look at that in the docs for the description of the "daleys" field[14:31:48] <natan_> no long_queue_id not resolve thats problem[14:31:50] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167F14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:31:55] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@107-223-70-10.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[14:33:07] *** ThomasKeller <ThomasKeller!~Thomas@vmx.ethz.ch> has joined #postfix[14:33:25] <natan_> lunaphyte this is postfix 3.0[14:33:48] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167F14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[14:33:57] <lunaphyte> that's reasonably up to date[14:33:59] <natan_> and why 30s[14:34:32] <lunaphyte> did you read the description?[14:35:08] <natan_> mail_version = 3.1.0[14:35:20] *** gabizou <gabizou!~gabizou@irc.spongepowered.org> has joined #postfix[14:35:36] <survietamine> !delays[14:35:37] <knoba> survietamine: "delays" : The format of the delays=a/b/c/d logging is as follows: a = time from message arrival to last active queue entry; b = time from last active queue entry to connection setup; # c = time in connection setup, including DNS, EHLO and TLS; d = time in message transmission[14:36:24] <natan_> survietamine i tested all (by postmap)[14:36:34] <survietamine> what?[14:39:11] <natan_> postmap -q bla bal mysq: bl abla[14:39:20] <natan_> i tested time DNS[14:39:25] <natan_> mysql / ldap[14:39:50] <natan_> i dont tested TLS and ehlo[14:40:12] <natan_> but i cant known how testes ehlo and TLS[14:57:56] *** Tormin <Tormin!Tormin@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe93:accd> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:02:33] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167F14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:03:39] *** Tormin <Tormin!Tormin@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe93:accd> has joined #postfix[15:06:12] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.46.82.170> has joined #postfix[15:07:17] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.71.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:07:53] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[15:08:32] *** guampa <guampa!~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:11:36] *** guampa <guampa!~guampa@unaffiliated/guampa> has joined #postfix[15:15:28] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@unaffiliated/qann> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:17:29] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.71.40> has joined #postfix[15:18:01] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@107-223-70-10.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131])[15:24:22] *** patdk-wk <patdk-wk!~dswett@2001:470:e0ba:5:cb2:388d:78d8:d393> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:36:13] *** pijiu2 <pijiu2!~pijiu@unaffiliated/pijiu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:43:19] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:44:03] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@hq.m3team.it> has joined #postfix[15:44:19] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[15:47:52] <natan_> ;)[15:47:54] *** patdk-wk <patdk-wk!~dswett@2001:470:e0ba:15:1a03:73ff:fe2a:d75> has joined #postfix[15:52:02] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@hq.m3team.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[15:53:42] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@hq.m3team.it> has joined #postfix[15:57:52] <patdk-wk> natan_, why do you think anything you tested has anything to do with the 30s delay?[15:58:06] <patdk-wk> as survietamine told you, it does not[15:58:12] <patdk-wk> !tell natan_ delays[15:58:13] <knoba> natan_: "delays" : The format of the delays=a/b/c/d logging is as follows: a = time from message arrival to last active queue entry; b = time from last active queue entry to connection setup; # c = time in connection setup, including DNS, EHLO and TLS; d = time in message transmission[16:02:10] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@23.23.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:02:55] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@23.23.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[16:04:14] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx2.ernw.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:11:08] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@91-115-48-48.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[16:11:18] <petn-randall> Hi, I've got following case: I've got a central postfix server that should be used for inbound mail and relaying. My user clients are allowed to relay via smtp submission, and everything ingress on port 25 is screened for spam. Now I have a set of servers that send inbound mail, should not be rejected for spam, but shouldn't be allowed to relay outbound. What would the usual approach be?[16:11:45] <petn-randall> Add them to mynetworks, and just disallow mynetworks from relaying?[16:11:57] <natan_> patdk-wk not everytime[16:12:05] <natan_> sometimes[16:12:27] <natan_> in queue i have ~200[16:12:43] <natan_> this is server for only outgoing smtp[16:12:53] <natan_> all users is ~100K[16:13:09] <natan_> sometimes in this same domain (my domain fir test)[16:13:35] <natan_> ja get delay 00.2 2 minut letter 30s[16:14:17] <natan_> delay=30, delays=0.31/0/30/0.09, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent[16:14:24] <natan_> 1 minut letter delay=3.4, delays=0.99/0/0.33/2.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent[16:14:39] <natan_> this same domain this same server[16:15:34] <natan_> maby this working like moq_qos[16:15:53] <rob0> "C" would include a remote site's greet pause ... nothing you can do about that.[16:15:59] <natan_> if ia send slowly I get 985 good delays[16:16:19] <natan_> but if faster ~60% good delays[16:16:28] <rob0> test the ones with the big "C" delays and see if there is a greet pause[16:16:37] <natan_> fast is 1 e-mail for 1 sekond[16:16:46] <rob0> (you might have to try it from a different IP address)[16:16:51] <natan_> testeed ~100 e-mails[16:17:44] <patdk-wk> I don't understand what you are even testing for[16:17:51] <natan_> rob0 remote site is my second server (MX) for this domain[16:17:53] <patdk-wk> yes, you have a delay, yes you get a delay when you send too fast[16:17:56] <patdk-wk> yes they are delaying you[16:17:57] <rob0> didn't I tell you about enable_long_queue_ids? Was there a reason why you changed your mind about that? You don't want non-repeating queue IDs?[16:18:05] <patdk-wk> yes, there is nothing we can help you with, talk to the mail server owner[16:18:08] <natan_> rob0 yes[16:18:24] <natan_> rob0 i have long id[16:18:44] <patdk-wk> if you own the server, why haven't you followed any of the instructions given?[16:18:46] <rob0> oh, it didn't appear so in the pastebin[16:18:49] <patdk-wk> !tell natan_ getting_help[16:18:49] <knoba> natan_: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[16:19:06] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167F14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[16:19:12] <natan_> postconf |grep "ids"[16:19:13] <natan_> enable_long_queue_ids = yes[16:19:16] *** Gazoo <Gazoo!~Gazoo@207.81.151.208> has joined #postfix[16:19:48] <rob0> good[16:24:15] <natan_> qshape active[16:24:15] <natan_> T 5 10 20 40 80 160 320 640 1280 1280+[16:24:16] <natan_> TOTAL 20 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0[16:24:29] <natan_> incomming 0[16:25:04] <rob0> so your long delays are when connecting to your own server?[16:25:24] <natan_> no[16:25:41] <natan_> i check dns - by dig[16:25:52] <patdk-wk> why do we care about dns?[16:26:06] <rob0> 15:16 <@rob0> test the ones with the big "C" delays and see if there is a greet pause[16:26:13] <natan_> mysql and ldap map - by postmap is ok[16:26:20] *** rob0 sets mode: -o rob0[16:26:22] <patdk-wk> what does mysql and ldap have to do with anything at all?[16:26:34] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167F14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:26:38] <patdk-wk> why are you testing random things that have nothing to do with the problem?[16:26:52] <patdk-wk> you will never find the issue if you keep testing unrelated items[16:27:28] <natan_> not random[16:27:38] <patdk-wk> yes, random[16:27:47] <natan_> i tested all around this same domain / this same query[16:27:47] <patdk-wk> !delays[16:27:47] <knoba> patdk-wk: "delays" : The format of the delays=a/b/c/d logging is as follows: a = time from message arrival to last active queue entry; b = time from last active queue entry to connection setup; # c = time in connection setup, including DNS, EHLO and TLS; d = time in message transmission[16:27:56] <patdk-wk> what in there says mysql or ldap could even be related?[16:28:06] <natan_> not[16:28:17] <patdk-wk> I know, it says it's not related[16:28:19] <patdk-wk> but you tested them[16:28:22] <rob0> Did you test to see if there is a greet pause?[16:28:22] <patdk-wk> so completely random[16:28:47] <natan_> mysql and ldap are bored[16:28:53] <natan_> but[16:30:08] <natan_> in my conf i turn off ldap (bcc sendermaps)[16:30:22] <natan_> mysql (default or specjail transport)[16:30:26] <natan_> and nothing[16:31:33] <natan_> rob0 i'm reading now[16:32:36] <rob0> what are you reading?[16:32:38] <natan_> I get "greet pause" when i send more e-mails from testing domains[16:32:42] <natan_> logs[16:33:02] <natan_> s/domains/domain[16:33:15] <rob0> okay, what I asked is for you to find 1-2 of the sent logs with long "C" delay[16:33:42] <natan_> ?[16:33:44] <survietamine> maybe he tested after reading some postfix documentation like Bottleneck analysis, performance tuning, or alike[16:33:51] <rob0> and then TEST with telnet/nc to that host and see if they have a greet pause[16:34:05] <survietamine> rob0: I didn't know that enabling long queue ids would help in delays, how come that?[16:34:13] <rob0> it does not[16:34:13] <survietamine> I thought it's just to have unique queue ids[16:34:17] <survietamine> ah, lol[16:34:18] <rob0> yes[16:35:07] *** mikecmpb_ <mikecmpb_!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[16:35:26] <survietamine> anyway, I still don't get if the server responsible of that "big" delay is his own server or not[16:37:14] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:37:37] <survietamine> < natan_> rob0 remote site is my second server (MX) for this domain ... <@rob0> so your long delays are when connecting to your own server? < natan_> no[16:39:07] *** guerilla <guerilla!~mxro@195.13.41.220> has left #postfix[16:39:19] <rob0> yeah, that confused me also[16:46:12] <natan_> https://dpaste.de/BS2a[16:47:53] *** Madda <Madda!~Madda@hq.m3team.it> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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mail.domain.pl.[17:34:36] *** pijiu2 <pijiu2!~pijiu@unaffiliated/pijiu> has joined #postfix[17:38:09] <natan_> this is example i canot put real name to pastebin[17:42:46] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:43:46] <patdk-wk> we can only solve example problems then, and not real ones[17:43:49] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has joined #postfix[17:44:46] <natan_> ;; Query time: 0 msec[17:45:44] *** mikecmpb_ <mikecmpb_!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[17:46:26] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[17:47:47] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[17:50:40] *** Oclair <Oclair!~Oclair@91-115-48-48.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye Bye)[17:50:46] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-51-227.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[17:51:47] *** synthroid 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*** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:08:47] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[20:16:27] *** howitdo <howitdo!~howitdo@unaffiliated/howitdo> has joined #postfix[20:24:01] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@hades.golgeli.net> has joined #postfix[20:29:37] *** Hedgehog08 <Hedgehog08!~Hedgehog0@host-85-201-109-64.dynamic.voo.be> has joined #postfix[20:38:22] <Hedgehog08> Hello, I try to configure postfix with opendkim and I have the following error in the log when i try to send a mail[20:38:27] <Hedgehog08> eb 7 20:25:26 mail postfix/smtpd[2362]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1][20:38:27] <Hedgehog08> Feb 7 20:25:26 mail postfix/smtpd[2362]: 4EF9118163C: client=localhost[127.0.0.1], sasl_method=LOGIN, sasl_username=sebastienthiry[20:38:27] <Hedgehog08> Feb 7 20:25:26 mail postfix/cleanup[2368]: 4EF9118163C: message-id=<8eeede0a51b78ebd7433656ad3af2277 at hedgehog08 dot be>[20:38:27] <Hedgehog08> Feb 7 20:25:26 mail opendkim[1037]: 4EF9118163C: SSL error:0D06B08E:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_D2I_READ_BIO:not enough data[20:38:29] <Hedgehog08> Feb 7 20:25:26 mail opendkim[1037]: 4EF9118163C: dkim_eom(): resource unavailable: d2i_PrivateKey_bio() failed[20:38:32] <Hedgehog08> Feb 7 20:25:26 mail postfix/cleanup[2368]: 4EF9118163C: milter-reject: END-OF-MESSAGE from localhost[127.0.0.1]: 4.7.0 resource unavailable; from=<sebastienthiry at hedgehog08 dot be> to=<check-auth at verifier dot port25.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<roundcube.hedgehog08.be>[20:38:56] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[20:48:40] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@hades.golgeli.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:55:33] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.46.82.170> has joined #postfix[21:05:44] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[21:06:03] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:06:16] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:06:49] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:06:55] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:07:28] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:08:49] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:08:57] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:09:00] *** Twinkletoes <Twinkletoes!~chatzilla@cpc69053-oxfd25-2-0-cust887.4-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #postfix[21:09:37] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:09:57] <Twinkletoes> My pflogsumm results are misleading because I handoff to amavis. Apart from dividing everything by two (which I don't think would be reliable - esp. given as some stats are odd numbers), is there a way around this?[21:10:34] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:10:56] <JPT> depends on what pflogsumm is doing and how you can influence that - and what your actual goal is[21:11:34] <Twinkletoes> JPT: I have 2 goals... 1) to know roughly how many messages are going through the server, 2) to know which (client) domains are using my server still[21:11:39] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:11:47] *** Hedgehog08 <Hedgehog08!~Hedgehog0@host-85-201-109-64.dynamic.voo.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[21:11:58] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:13:06] <JPT> never tried that before, but perhaps you can pass options to your smtpd that's responsible for incoming on port 25 to log into a separate file[21:13:08] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:13:29] <Twinkletoes> JPT: hmm... thats' an idea[21:16:46] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@hades.golgeli.net> has joined #postfix[21:18:52] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@hades.golgeli.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:19:45] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@hades.golgeli.net> has joined #postfix[21:20:44] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[21:20:44] *** jraccoon <jraccoon!~jraccoon@unaffiliated/jraccoon> has quit IRC (K-Lined)[21:23:27] *** Nomads <Nomads!~Nomad@hades.golgeli.net> has joined #postfix[21:24:32] *** Qann <Qann!~Nomad@hades.golgeli.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:28:16] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@qbuissondebon.info> has joined #postfix[21:29:36] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:30:59] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:31:53] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:33:19] *** Dessa_ is now known as Dessa[21:33:32] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:53:44] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[21:53:53] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:53:58] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:55:08] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[21:57:07] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:57:08] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:58:26] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[21:59:06] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:59:14] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[22:01:54] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:02:04] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:03:30] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:03:48] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[22:03:57] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:04:08] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[22:04:10] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:04:20] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[22:06:57] *** gu1lle_1 <gu1lle_1!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[22:08:59] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:08:59] *** gu1lle_1 is now known as gu1lle_[22:12:10] *** Darcidride_ <Darcidride_!~Darcidrid@qbuissondebon.info> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:16:12] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[22:18:50] *** KsChoice <KsChoice!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[22:18:51] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[22:21:55] <MacWinner> i'm having an extremely rare bounce when i try to relay email to google's SMTP relay. I have my IP address setup as an authroized IP and i have thousands of emails working fine. once a week, a single email will bounce and the message says: Invalid credentials for relay for 550-5.7.0 one of the domains in: (as obtained from HELO and MAIL FROM). 550-5.7.0 Email is being sent from a domain or IP address which isn't registered 550-5.7.0 in your G Suite[22:21:55] <MacWinner> account. Please login to your G Suite account and 550-5.7.0 verify that your sending device IP address has been registered within 550-5.7.0 the G Suite SMTP Relay Settings. For more information, please visit 550 5.7.0 https://support.google.com/a/answer/6140680#maildenied i189sm2635443ita.0 - gsmtp (in reply to MAIL FROM command))[22:22:38] <MacWinner> I called google and they are investigating.. but I want to make sure this is not some weird bug in the postfix SMTP client where it doesn't send a HELO name or something. what's the easiest way to see the bug fixes in the SMTP client since the version of postfix I have installed?[22:23:09] <JPT> Just an odd guess, but did you make sure that the sending part of postfix (smtp if i recall correctly) actually only binds to those ip addresses that are registered with google?[22:27:33] <MacWinner> JPT, interesting.. well the thing is I don't actually connect straight to google.. I make postfix connect through another server running HAProxy[22:27:49] <MacWinner> then HAProxy basically plugs the connection over to the google server..[22:28:13] <MacWinner> maybe the server running HAProxy is somehow choosing a different address[22:28:38] <lunaphyte> you're reverse proxying from your stuff out to the internet through haproxy?[22:28:40] <MacWinner> actually, nm.. google support person said they saw the correct IP address connecting..[22:28:49] <lunaphyte> that's interesting[22:28:56] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[22:29:26] <MacWinner> i need to because google is stupid.. they only allow whitelisting of IP addresses.. and I can't keep updating my whitelist with new servers in the cluster. (or I can't keep asking our customers to)[22:36:19] *** JanC_ <JanC_!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has joined #postfix[22:37:32] *** JanC <JanC!~janc@lugwv/member/JanC> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:37:34] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:37:36] *** JanC_ is now known as JanC[22:43:34] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.46.82.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:46:21] *** kaiyou <kaiyou!~kaiyou@irc.kaiyou.fr> has left #postfix ("Leaving")[22:46:21] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC ()[22:48:45] *** audiodef is now known as GentooStudio[22:52:46] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:55:29] *** f0086 <f0086!~f0086@ip5f596dd1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[22:56:22] *** f0086 <f0086!~f0086@ip5f596dd1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has left #postfix[22:56:51] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[22:58:26] *** fu86 <fu86!~f0086@ip5f596dd1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #postfix[22:58:28] <fu86> hi[22:59:02] <fu86> I want to send/relay mails from a docker container to a postfix SMTP server, which runs on the host. Is there a way to allow this?[22:59:51] <lunaphyte> sure. use a null client.[22:59:56] <lunaphyte> it's exactly what they're for[23:01:26] <cpm> ^^[23:01:51] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:02:10] <fu86> lunaphyte, like nullmailer?[23:02:20] <lunaphyte> like nullmailer, yes[23:02:34] <lunaphyte> although i peraonlly wouldn't typically recommend nullmailer[23:02:37] <lunaphyte> *personally[23:03:10] <fu86> lunaphyte, i think I have some problems understanding how that exactly works. Where/How do I install/setup the nullmailer?[23:03:24] <fu86> lunaphyte, whats your recommendation?[23:03:31] <lunaphyte> you install the null client software on the computer which you want to send email[23:03:37] <lunaphyte> i recommend msmtp[23:04:49] <fu86> so, the null client need an account/credentials for the SMTP, right?[23:05:30] <fu86> sorry for the dump question, I have some problems understanding the concept[23:06:39] <lunaphyte> you're probably just overthinking things[23:06:55] <lunaphyte> a null client is really no different than your "regular" mail client.[23:07:21] <lunaphyte> so - think about it. when you configure your regular mail client, naturally, you need to provide credentials in order to submit mail to your mail server for delivery, right?[23:08:37] <fu86> yes[23:08:51] <lunaphyte> a null client does not differ[23:09:00] <fu86> but when I send a mail from the console (with sendmail or mail ...), no login credentials are used[23:09:03] <lunaphyte> it's nothing more than one "half" of a "regular" mail client[23:09:11] *** Death_rattle_ <Death_rattle_!~death@p5494E4CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:09:26] <lunaphyte> but when you compose a message in your regular client, you do not provide credentials either, do you?[23:09:35] <lunaphyte> they are already configured in the program's settings ahead of time, no?[23:09:37] <fu86> I want to do the same from inside a docker container but with the difference that the mails gets forwarded to the hosts postfix[23:10:03] <fu86> sure[23:10:54] <fu86> like an "open spam relay", just for my local docker containers :)[23:11:03] <lunaphyte> no, you do not.[23:11:19] <lunaphyte> configure the null client properly in docker[23:11:30] <lunaphyte> just like your mail program on your home computer[23:12:34] <fu86> and with what credentials?[23:12:49] <fu86> should I add a "dummy" user for that?[23:13:27] <patdk-wk> what is a dummy user?[23:13:29] <patdk-wk> isn't a user a user?[23:13:43] <fu86> a user dedicated just to forward mails[23:13:50] <patdk-wk> so you mean, a service account[23:14:00] <fu86> yes if you call it so[23:17:48] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:20:50] *** johnny56 <johnny56!~johnny56@unaffiliated/johnny56> has joined #postfix[23:31:41] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:35:53] *** fiddlerwoaroof <fiddlerwoaroof!~fiddlerwo@unaffiliated/fiddlerwoaroof> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:37:07] *** fiddlerwoaroof <fiddlerwoaroof!~fiddlerwo@unaffiliated/fiddlerwoaroof> has joined #postfix[23:38:27] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has joined #postfix[23:41:23] *** fu86 <fu86!~f0086@ip5f596dd1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:51:44] *** j7k6 <j7k6!~j7k6@unaffiliated/j7k6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)