February 5, 2017 
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February 5, 2017 [00:01:28] *** Hedgehog08 <Hedgehog08!~Hedgehog0@host-85-201-109-64.dynamic.voo.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[00:03:53] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[00:03:55] <luxifer> ah[00:04:20] <luxifer> about the smtpd_helo_required = no[00:04:26] <luxifer> "This may cause problems with home-grown applications that send mail. For this reason, the requirement is disabled by default"... bummer[00:05:37] *** rednul <rednul!~rednul@219.163.48.199.static.reverse.as19531.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:05:38] *** bipolar <bipolar!~bipolar@offsite.guru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:06:28] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@hq.experiencepoint.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:06:37] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@hq.experiencepoint.com> has joined #postfix[00:07:52] *** magyar <magyar!~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar> has joined #postfix[00:08:20] *** rednul <rednul!~rednul@219.163.48.199.static.reverse.as19531.net> has joined #postfix[00:08:35] <lunaphyte> that's a rather historically conservative vestige.[00:09:01] <lunaphyte> i doubt you'd ever ever see anything causing problems with it[00:10:04] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[00:10:15] <luxifer> that's what I thought.... now that still being the default could either be a sign of very, very stable defaults one could rely on... or it's an oversight oO[00:14:01] <luxifer> lunaphyte, could you take a look at my global restrictions? I try to wrap my head around this and I hope they make sense the way I've set them... but... well... :) I'd post them as is if that's okay as I don't want to apply my changes just yet[00:14:55] <luxifer> http://pastebin.com/qexKSN5d[00:15:15] *** bipolar <bipolar!~bipolar@offsite.guru> has joined #postfix[00:19:21] <luxifer> hm... you seem to be afk... maybe you can drop me a line on those via MsgServ... that would be pretty cool as I won't be able to come on for long or during these times of the day until next weekend[00:20:24] <luxifer> and I'm almost falling asleep sitting right now... so... I'll be off... huge thanks for your insights so far... I found them to be really rather helpful[00:20:33] <luxifer> good night[00:20:36] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.93.9> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:29:22] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@hq.experiencepoint.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:30:25] *** ghoti <ghoti!~paul@hq.experiencepoint.com> has joined #postfix[00:30:34] *** caitnop <caitnop!~py@ool-1826eaa1.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:35:18] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:37:13] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[00:37:13] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:37:13] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[00:47:28] *** ugjka <ugjka!~ugjka@ugjka.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:52:14] *** ugjka <ugjka!~ugjka@ugjka.net> has joined #postfix[00:53:45] *** fatdragon 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<luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.65.203> has joined #postfix[10:56:27] <luxifer> *sigh* I see there is no MsgServ :)[10:57:35] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-21-174.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:00:14] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-17-118.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[11:14:24] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:23:26] *** Hedgehog08 <Hedgehog08!~Hedgehog0@host-85-201-109-64.dynamic.voo.be> has joined #postfix[11:29:46] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.65.203> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:38:38] *** ld50 <ld50!~quassel@2001:41d0:8:baae::bad:deed> has joined #postfix[11:51:07] <Hedgehog08> Hello, I try to configue postfix-policyd-spf-python but i got this error in logs when i send mail to server Feb 5 10:50:38 mail postfix/smtpd[26004]: warning: connect to private/policyd-spf: No such file or directory[11:51:07] <Hedgehog08> Feb 5 10:50:39 mail postfix/smtpd[26004]: warning: connect to private/policyd-spf: No such file or directory[11:51:07] <Hedgehog08> Feb 5 10:50:39 mail postfix/smtpd[26004]: warning: problem talking to server private/policyd-spf: No such file or directory[11:59:49] <pj> Hedgehog08: either your policyd is not configured properly, not running or you have smtpd configured to run chroot and did not put the policyd socket in the chroot.[11:59:53] <pj> !tell Hedgehog08 chroot[11:59:53] <knoba> Hedgehog08: "chroot" : The fifth column in master.cf determines if the Postfix process described on that line runs in a chroot. The default is 'y' for postfix versions prior to 3.0 and 'n' for newer. See !debug, !queue_directory and files in the examples/chroot-setup subdirectory of the Postfix source archive which show examples of a Postfix chroot environment on a variety of systems.[12:01:53] <Hedgehog08> here is my master.cf[12:01:56] <Hedgehog08> #[12:01:56] <Hedgehog08> # Postfix master process configuration file. For details on the format[12:01:56] <Hedgehog08> # of the file, see the master(5) manual page (command: "man 5 master" or[12:01:56] <Hedgehog08> # on-line: http://www.postfix.org/master.5.html).[12:01:56] <Hedgehog08> #[12:01:57] <Hedgehog08> # Do not forget to execute "postfix reload" after editing this file.[12:01:59] <Hedgehog08> #[12:02:01] <Hedgehog08> # ==========================================================================[12:02:03] <Hedgehog08> # service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command + args[12:02:05] <Hedgehog08> # (yes) (yes) (no) (never) (100)[12:02:07] <Hedgehog08> # ==========================================================================[12:02:09] <Hedgehog08> smtp inet n - n - - smtpd[12:02:13] <Hedgehog08> #smtp inet n - y - 1 postscreen[12:02:15] <Hedgehog08> #smtpd pass - - y - - smtpd[12:02:17] <Hedgehog08> #dnsblog unix - - y - 0 dnsblog[12:02:19] <Hedgehog08> #tlsproxy unix - - y - 0 tlsproxy[12:02:21] <Hedgehog08> submission inet n - n - - smtpd[12:02:23] <Hedgehog08> policyd-spf unix - n n - - spawn[12:02:25] <Hedgehog08> user=nobody argv=/usr/bin/policyd-spf[12:02:27] <Hedgehog08> # -o syslog_name=postfix/submission[12:02:29] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt[12:02:31] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes[12:02:33] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_reject_unlisted_recipient=no[12:02:35] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_client_restrictions=$mua_client_restrictions[12:02:37] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_helo_restrictions=$mua_helo_restrictions[12:02:39] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_sender_restrictions=$mua_sender_restrictions[12:02:43] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=[12:02:45] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_relay_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject[12:02:47] <Hedgehog08> # -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING[12:02:49] <Hedgehog08> #smtps inet n - n - - smtpd[12:02:51] <Hedgehog08> # -o syslog_name=postfix/smtps[12:02:53] <Hedgehog08> -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=no[12:02:55] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes[12:02:57] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_reject_unlisted_recipient=no[12:02:59] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_client_restrictions=$mua_client_restrictions[12:03:01] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_helo_restrictions=$mua_helo_restrictions[12:03:03] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_sender_restrictions=$mua_sender_restrictions[12:03:05] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=[12:03:07] <Hedgehog08> # -o smtpd_relay_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject[12:03:09] <Hedgehog08> # -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING[12:06:01] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE747BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[12:30:29] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p4FE747BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:45:57] *** ThomasKeller <ThomasKeller!~Thomas@vmx.ethz.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:51:44] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[13:07:12] <Hedgehog08> Anyone know a good how to for configuring spf with postfix?[13:13:25] *** bolt <bolt!r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:18:08] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-17-118.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[13:20:57] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@62-46-101-133.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[13:23:05] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:57:42] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[14:01:08] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.65.203> has joined #postfix[14:02:10] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[14:41:29] *** caitnop <caitnop!~py@ool-1826eaa1.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #postfix[14:42:58] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.65.203> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[14:51:17] *** mcox <mcox!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has joined #postfix[14:58:43] *** mcox <mcox!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[15:10:29] *** mcox____1 <mcox____1!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has joined #postfix[15:18:42] *** mcox____1 <mcox____1!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has left #postfix[15:21:16] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[15:25:11] *** mjrc <mjrc!~mcox@77.172.153.103> has joined #postfix[15:25:17] <mjrc> Last login: Sun Feb 5 14:32:57 on ttys000[15:25:17] <mjrc> [mcox:~]$[15:25:17] <mjrc> [mcox:~]$[15:25:17] <mjrc> [mcox:~]$[15:25:17] <mjrc> [mcox:~]$ brew install issri[15:25:20] <mjrc> Updating Homebrew...[15:25:22] <mjrc> ==> Auto-updated Homebrew![15:25:25] <mjrc> Updated 1 tap (homebrew/core).[15:25:27] <mjrc> ==> Updated Formulae[15:25:30] <mjrc> blueutil fzf imagemagick@6 nave youtube-dl[15:25:32] <mjrc> checkstyle git-annex lastpass-cli planck[15:25:35] <mjrc> fio imagemagick msgpack quazip[15:25:37] <mjrc> ^CError: No available formula with the name "issri"[15:25:40] <mjrc> ==> Searching for similarly named formulae...[15:25:42] <mjrc> Error: No similarly named formulae found.[15:25:45] <mjrc> ==> Searching taps...[15:25:47] <mjrc> ^[[A^C[15:25:50] <mjrc> [mcox:~]$[15:25:52] <mjrc> [mcox:~]$[15:25:55] <mjrc> [mcox:~]$ brew install irssi[15:25:57] <mjrc> ==> Installing dependencies for irssi: openssl[15:26:00] <mjrc> ==> Installing irssi dependency: openssl[15:26:02] <mjrc> ==> Downloading https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/openssl-1.0.2k.sierra[15:26:05] <mjrc> Ok. that went quite well. Im sorry.[15:26:16] <mjrc> New to postfix and new to IRC as well. Tried to register and pasted this bulk instead.[15:26:59] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@132.52.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has joined #postfix[15:27:25] <mjrc> So I've got a quetion. See my two exerpts from mailq and mail.log here: http://pastebin.com/tZ8VhrGn[15:28:48] *** lord4163 <lord4163!~lord4163@90-230-158-145-no86.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #postfix[15:31:00] <lord4163> Hi[15:31:30] <mjrc> Im not sure if my issues are related: Im running my first mail server with postfix and imap/pop/lmtp dovecot on it and e-mails get deferred. Non spam is stuck in deferred queue. Also, when inspecting the queue, my relay tells me DKIM records are found. If I search online for a solution I can only find spam related questions, while my emails look like the good stuff.[15:32:31] <mjrc> when inspecting mail.log*[15:32:40] <mjrc> DKIM are not found*[15:33:11] <Hedgehog08> Maybe you have a dkim config in postfix?[15:36:47] <patdk-lap> mjrc, that is so not what was asked for[15:36:51] <patdk-lap> !tell mjrc welcome[15:36:51] <knoba> mjrc: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![15:37:02] <patdk-lap> !tell mjrc getting_help[15:37:02] <knoba> mjrc: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[15:37:16] <patdk-lap> !mung[15:37:16] <knoba> patdk-lap: "mung" : Mash Until No Good : the art of obfuscating data which ultimately results in unintentional consequences such as making diagnostics impossible. If you think you must hide details, see !have2mung[15:39:24] <mjrc> Reading the suggestions. Will brb in a bit.[15:39:59] <mjrc> Broken link: goo.gl/sRG7M[15:40:38] <mjrc> !relevant_logs[15:40:38] <knoba> mjrc: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[15:41:17] <mjrc> !no_verbose)[15:41:17] <knoba> mjrc: Error: "no_verbose)" is not a valid command.[15:41:19] <mjrc> !no_verbose[15:41:19] <knoba> mjrc: "no_verbose" : do not show verbose logs unless someone asks you to. if someone does ask you to, see !verbose[15:41:57] <mjrc> !mung[15:41:57] <knoba> mjrc: "mung" : Mash Until No Good : the art of obfuscating data which ultimately results in unintentional consequences such as making diagnostics impossible. If you think you must hide details, see !have2mung[15:42:13] <mjrc> !have2mung[15:42:13] <knoba> mjrc: "have2mung" : if you absolutely have to mung details, such as anonymizing domains, email and IP addresses etc., try to do so in a minimal, consistent and meaningful way. Keep in mind that this is our first look at your particular configuration and or log details and we do not have the benefit you posses about your existing configuration.[15:49:16] <mjrc>[15:49:46] <mjrc> Ok so I am back with a more verbose pastebin.[15:49:48] <mjrc> http://pastebin.com/3hFfrSRg[15:50:06] <patdk-lap> !verbose[15:50:06] <knoba> patdk-lap: "verbose" : You probably do not need verbose logging, but in very rare cases, the extra detail might assist in debugging. To set verbose logging, add a -v after the command name (such as smtpd) in master.cf, then 'postfix reload' after that[15:50:36] <patdk-lap> or did you not read this?[15:50:39] <patdk-lap> !relevant_logs[15:50:39] <knoba> patdk-lap: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[15:50:51] <patdk-lap> you should NEVER post verbose, EVER EVER[15:51:30] <patdk-lap> no idea why you posted mailq output either[15:51:45] <patdk-lap> and why you only posted a part of the config[15:51:59] <patdk-lap> !tell mjrc relevant_logs[15:51:59] <knoba> mjrc: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[15:52:12] <patdk-lap> !tell mjrc showconfig[15:52:12] <knoba> mjrc: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[15:54:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rob0[15:55:21] *** rob0 sets mode: +q $a:Hedgehog08[15:55:47] <rob0> ah, I guess that was no longer releevant[15:55:56] *** rob0 sets mode: -q $a:Hedgehog08[15:56:10] <mjrc> Yes I was too hasteful, did not read carefully and think before doing.[15:56:45] *** rob0 sets mode: +oo patdk-lap pj[15:57:16] <patdk-lap> oh ya, add the responsibility to me[15:57:34] <rob0> you know you love the POWER[15:58:07] *** zokum <zokum!~zokum@188.51-174-52.customer.lyse.net> has quit IRC ()[15:58:17] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[15:58:35] <rob0> mjrc, okay, so yours was an accidental paste, I see that now[15:59:13] <rob0> !tell Hedgehog08 pastebin[15:59:13] <knoba> Hedgehog08: "pastebin" : a pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, or pastebin.ca. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[15:59:24] <mjrc> rob0: well two already, 1 pastebin and 1 accidental copy/paste[15:59:40] <rob0> Hedgehog08, DO NOT paste such stuff in channel, especially all the useless comment lines.[15:59:58] <rob0> !tell Hedgehog08 getting_help[15:59:59] <knoba> Hedgehog08: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[16:00:00] <mjrc> !no_verbose[16:00:00] <patdk-lap> just need useful info so we know what mjrc's issue is :)[16:00:00] <knoba> mjrc: "no_verbose" : do not show verbose logs unless someone asks you to. if someone does ask you to, see !verbose[16:00:29] <mjrc> the reason for non verbose logging, is it too much noise or possible security reasons?[16:00:32] <patdk-lap> the first pastebin had nothing useful in it, and the second had verbose so no idea what was going on[16:00:35] <rob0> I might peek in shortly if I have time, but I'm getting ready to go out[16:00:50] <patdk-lap> mjrc, there is no reason for verbose logging, EVER[16:00:58] <patdk-lap> unless you are hacking the postfix source code[16:01:03] <patdk-lap> and if you are, you don't need us[16:01:38] <mjrc> ok well call me ignorant or naive but a lot of tutorials and online forum articles always mention it :P[16:01:48] <patdk-lap> !tutorial[16:01:48] <knoba> patdk-lap: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[16:02:14] <rob0> those tutorials are written by people who are not qualified to write documentation[16:02:40] <patdk-lap> tutorials are normally written, cause they had issues, or wanted to write something to help them do it[16:02:49] <patdk-lap> so they are really notes to self[16:03:00] <patdk-lap> then they post them for others to *help*, and they generally don't[16:03:05] <rob0> many of them didn't even understand what they were doing[16:03:13] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:03:17] <patdk-lap> collected from other tutorials[16:04:09] <patdk-lap> I do consider it fine to reference a tutorial, but you should always doublecheck and reference anything it says back to the manual, as you have no idea how clueful or unclueful that page is, like everything on the internet[16:04:14] <rob0> patdk-lap, as for "never verbose", that's almost true, but I'd guess maybe 2-3 times a year I have asked for it and it helped understand an issue.[16:04:15] *** zokum <zokum!~zokum@188.51-174-52.customer.lyse.net> has joined #postfix[16:04:37] *** maziar <maziar!~textual@151.243.154.247> has joined #postfix[16:04:48] <mjrc> yes ive started with the official documentation on the postfix site as well. i was maybe too ambitious in my first configuration, being that i wanted to configure an environment with system and virtual users/mailboxes, which led me to lose the overview quite quicly and me seeking refuge in these tutorials haha[16:04:57] <patdk-lap> ya, the only ligit reasons I can think of for verbose in this channel, is to help get some sql or password issue resolved[16:05:56] <patdk-lap> must find my phone, should clock in for this[16:06:00] <patdk-lap> this is billable time :)[16:06:15] <mjrc> combining bits and pieces of tutorials with a general idea of what im doing, but not precisely - resulting in a lot of problems and a lot of time trying to properly configure my system. i've now reduced it to only virtual users and virtual mailboxes[16:06:24] <mjrc> patdk-lap: what do you mean?[16:06:42] <patdk-lap> doing firmware updates and upgrades to the server cluster for a customer[16:07:04] <patdk-lap> I really should clock in before I start, but never do[16:10:04] <mjrc> So in summary: One log item, no verbose, postconf -nf and postconf -Mf[16:11:32] <patdk-lap> one transaction, hopefully many log lines[16:12:25] <patdk-lap> generally the queue id number, search for all lines with it[16:12:36] <patdk-lap> but there will be a few lines without it, but if we really need those, we can help you get them[16:13:00] <mjrc> Right, ofcourse[16:13:45] <patdk-lap> if the mail system is not busy, pretty much all the postfix logs in that time frame[16:14:10] <patdk-lap> the real issue is busy systems where people post the problem email, and 5 others and we can't figure out what one they are talking about[16:14:32] <mjrc> Well thats not a problem for me as the system is not that busy[16:14:46] <mjrc> Though I did just flush the queue so I will have to look for a proper transaction.[16:15:30] <patdk-lap> it would be best if you ignored what is in the queue[16:15:39] <patdk-lap> and created a new sample/test email[16:16:12] <patdk-lap> so we know no config changes you made since the other one was put in the queue happened, vs what we see in the config now[16:18:31] <mjrc> Ok sounds reasonable[16:18:33] <mjrc> http://pastebin.com/7Tmwq1pT[16:19:13] <mjrc> It looks obvious: it has no from address. I tried to rewrite those in the generic db, but I suppose without success.[16:19:55] <patdk-lap> you started too late[16:20:05] <patdk-lap> where is the first half of that transaction?[16:21:13] <patdk-lap> show all logs that contain 9CC0D240644[16:21:59] <mjrc> There is more indeed, but since it is a queued message and postfix tried to deliver multiple times, it is listed many more times. Do you want everything?[16:22:12] <patdk-lap> I need the first ones[16:22:21] <patdk-lap> I don't care about the repeats[16:22:38] <patdk-lap> the problem your attempting to solve, is a side affect of your real problem[16:22:44] <patdk-lap> so it's pointless to solve the problem you posted[16:22:49] <patdk-lap> cause that is NOT the problem[16:24:08] <mjrc> http://pastebin.com/8WBZMvmH[16:24:29] <patdk-lap> sooner[16:24:31] <mjrc> That contains more, but not sure if it represents the whole transaction.[16:24:45] <patdk-lap> haven't gone back far enough[16:25:29] <mjrc> the rest looks like repeats, ill search for another transaction[16:27:20] <mjrc> I think this one is a whole transaction, probably one of my generated messages of a few minutes ago[16:27:23] <mjrc> http://pastebin.com/MxcfQ4AX[16:27:45] <patdk-lap> there you go[16:27:53] <patdk-lap> that tells us the problem was in transaction, 0BEAC24108F[16:27:56] <patdk-lap> so post the logs from that[16:31:03] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.65.203> has joined #postfix[16:31:52] *** moijk <moijk!~moijk@ti0090a400-4327.bb.online.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:32:05] <mjrc> http://pastebin.com/P6NJ2YyC[16:32:27] *** Hedgehog08 <Hedgehog08!~Hedgehog0@host-85-201-109-64.dynamic.voo.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:32:56] <patdk-lap> "(host cojote.nl[private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 550 5.1.1 <info at appelhout dot nl> User doesn't exist: info at appelhout dot nl (in reply to RCPT TO command)"[16:33:15] *** moijk <moijk!~moijk@2001:4640:5d14:0:8c8c:7d45:b070:6baa> has joined #postfix[16:33:20] <mjrc> For my own understanding, the transaction 0BExxx, commended "sender non delivery ID" so then always investigate the 'parent'/iniator ID?[16:33:41] <patdk-lap> you where tracking down the *failed to deliever notification email*[16:33:55] <patdk-lap> instead of the problem that produced that failed to deliever notification email (or bounce email)[16:34:21] <rob0> !enable_long_queue_ids[16:34:21] <knoba> rob0: "enable_long_queue_ids" : Enable long, non-repeating, queue IDs (queue file names). The benefit of non-repeating names is simpler logfile analysis and easier queue migration (there is no need to run postsuper to change queue file names that don't match their message file inode number). See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#enable_long_queue_ids[16:34:29] <rob0> enable_long_queue_ids=yes[16:34:34] * rob0 afk[16:35:21] <patdk-lap> so atleast in this case, you have a dovecot issue[16:35:32] <patdk-lap> it doesn't know about this user you are attempting to send email to[16:35:32] *** gongoputch <gongoputch!~kseel@freebsd/op/gongoputch> has joined #postfix[16:36:10] <patdk-lap> I would suggest it doesn't know about the domain, since it rejects on both of those users, info and orders[16:36:12] <mjrc> rob0: is that setting a recommendation to enable?[16:36:22] <patdk-lap> it's a good idea[16:36:26] <patdk-lap> it's not required :)[16:36:36] <patdk-lap> but the more email you have per day, the more useful it is[16:37:24] *** lord4163 <lord4163!~lord4163@90-230-158-145-no86.tbcn.telia.com> has left #postfix ("Leaving")[16:38:00] <mjrc> ok cool, i have enabled it but not restarted yet[16:38:14] <mjrc> and in regards to the issue, any exp with dovecot? :D[16:40:11] <patdk-lap> lots, but now I am having an issue myself[16:40:17] <mjrc> oh wait, this should not have anything to do with dovecot I believe[16:40:21] <patdk-lap> freaking esxi purplescreens :([16:40:34] <patdk-lap> the logs clearly say it is a dovecot issue :)[16:41:04] <patdk-lap> unless you attempted to alias/rewrite those addresses to others and it didn't happen[16:43:09] <mjrc> well for each user at appelhout dot nl, I specified in a vmailbox file it should deliver to appelhout.com/user[16:43:34] *** luxifer <luxifer!~luxifer@94.16.65.203> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:43:43] <mjrc> when i tried to virtual-alias this earlier, postfix complained i should not specify them in both files[16:44:07] <patdk-lap> that doesn't matter[16:44:08] <patdk-lap> virtual_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp[16:44:52] <mjrc> ooh yes[16:44:56] <patdk-lap> since that is not using postfix, your settings in the virtual_mailbox_maps file won't matter[16:45:24] <mjrc> Ok nice, one step closer.[16:45:35] *** maziar <maziar!~textual@151.243.154.247> has quit IRC (Changing host)[16:45:35] *** maziar <maziar!~textual@unaffiliated/maziar> has joined #postfix[16:45:43] <patdk-lap> yes, it would be perferred to use dovecot-lmtp[16:45:51] <mjrc> But we switched from .nl to .com recently and I would like to delvier all .nl into the respective .com[16:46:14] <patdk-lap> that will be an virtual_alias_maps setting[16:46:27] <mjrc> So I could, as we use a passwd-file for authentication now, also include .nl accounts but then they will probably get delivered into another vmailbox[16:47:48] <patdk-lap> !virtual_alias_maps[16:47:48] <knoba> patdk-lap: "virtual_alias_maps" : A configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote addresses. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[16:47:56] <mjrc> So I can delete the virtual mailbox maps and I should use virtual alias maps, to _probably_ solve the problem?[16:56:14] *** pppingme <pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme> has joined #postfix[16:57:56] <patdk-lap> https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2053642[16:58:05] <patdk-lap> this has to be the 3rd time I have had this issue with emulex :([17:02:07] <mjrc> doesnt sound good[17:04:06] <mjrc> im insecure btw if i can specify the following mapping in virtual alias maps: virtualalias:virtualmbox[17:04:15] <mjrc> as http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html#virtual_alias[17:04:23] <mjrc> only specifies local users[17:04:46] <patdk-lap> actually, it is not recommended you do not use full email addresses on the right[17:05:50] <patdk-lap> and using only a username on the right, doesn't make it local[17:05:58] <patdk-lap> it just means myorigin will be appended to it[17:06:02] <mjrc> aah ok[17:06:10] <mjrc> did not know that[17:06:21] <mjrc> does lmtp also have to know about the virtual alias document?[17:06:28] <patdk-lap> no[17:08:29] <mjrc> aah! i see an e-mail to .nl just got send to .com :)[17:09:05] <mjrc> thanks patdk-lap !![17:13:11] <patdk-lap> do you really need smtp_generic_maps?[17:13:20] <patdk-lap> that is generally not something to use[17:18:36] *** mjrc2 <mjrc2!~mjrc@62.140.132.28> has joined #postfix[17:19:28] *** bolt <bolt!r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[17:22:11] *** Robby <Robby!robby@2001:470:d19b::701> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[17:26:03] *** Robby <Robby!robby@2001:470:d19b::701> has joined #postfix[17:29:53] *** mjrc3 <mjrc3!~mjrc@62.140.132.28> has joined #postfix[17:48:39] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:49:04] *** moijk <moijk!~moijk@2001:4640:5d14:0:8c8c:7d45:b070:6baa> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[17:57:43] 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