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[09:00:32] <Serg_Penguin> hi ! if i send an email with only BCC: and no TO:, is it good by RFC and will it be surely delivered to everyone ? I send event notifications from business software, like 'new task' or 'gauge in red scale'
[09:01:23] <Serg_Penguin> or should i send personal copy of message to everyone, so amplifying traffic ?
[09:02:57] <survietamine> would work with only BCC. IIRC, recipients will see "undisclosed recipients"
[09:04:02] <Serg_Penguin> survietamine, thanks ! i don't give a worry, it's not inter-personal, so no trust or reputation issues
[09:04:25] <Serg_Penguin> is the answer valid to only postfix, or to any mail server ?
[09:06:25] <survietamine> not specific to postfix
[09:07:15] <survietamine> any MTA only cares about envelope to do the routing, what you mean with To:, Bcc: etc are headers that the clients care about
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[09:08:02] <survietamine> oh, god, by trying to chat on IRC and doing some dumb mysql shell script, I'm doing crap
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[09:37:42] <pj> it's a valid email, but there are many servers that will count it as SPAM. It is generally a good idea to have a valid recipient in the To: header.
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[09:42:12] <jomofcw> Hello !
[09:42:32] <jomofcw> How can I limit post fix to be able to send e-mail only on address of listed domains, please ?
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[09:44:11] <Serg_Penguin> pj, before I never had a non-delivery issue. I have SPF but not DKIM
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[09:51:34] <jomofcw> Now, testing it doing 'echo "This is the body of the email" | mail -s "This is the subject line" myemail at domain dot ext' doesn't work :/... how can i guess what's wrong, please ?
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[09:56:42] <Zerberus> !tell jomofcw getting_help
[09:56:42] <knoba> jomofcw: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
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[09:59:41] <jomofcw> !relevant_logs
[09:59:41] <knoba> jomofcw: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.
[09:59:54] <jomofcw> !showconfig
[09:59:54] <knoba> jomofcw: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
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[10:37:37] <jomofcw> it seems to be a timeout problem :S.
[10:39:01] <jomofcw> But i can ping the hostname without problem... so not a network problem.
[10:44:04] <jomofcw> In your opinion, what could be the problem, please ?
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[11:00:53] <jomofcw> Please :D.
[11:01:09] <jomofcw> Zerberus ?
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[12:03:58] <Zerberus> jomofcw: yes? I had a team meeting
[12:04:40] <Zerberus> jomofcw: log content is missing in your pastebin, demonstrating your issue
[12:06:12] <Zerberus> jomofcw: dev-web.jamdifus.local as your hostname does not help to get mail accepted by others
[12:06:30] <petn-randall> Zerberus: jomofcw has already asked in #debian and is getting support there :/
[12:07:11] <jomofcw> sorry Zerberus
[12:12:35] <Zerberus> petn-randall: ok
[12:13:33] <Zerberus> if it is not only mx2.free.fr port 25 which is unreachable but other port 25 targets, then your ISP blocks port 25 outbounds
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[12:24:47] <jomofcw> Zerberus thanks for your answer and sorry to disturbing you. In fact, only my server can't access it, on my local computer (running windows) I've no problem reaching port 25. So it seems to be a server thing...
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[14:25:31] <jomofcw> Zerberus the problem is fixed, thanks to petn-randall help :D !
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[14:32:54] <jomofcw> Now I have a "transport" problem :/. I would like to "limit" the "To/Cc/Cci" adresse to those of mine domains. Fot this I add a transport file that I load in the main.cf. But it seems to doesn't work, i.e. it block all the sending.
[14:34:24] <lunaphyte> that would not be done with transport_maps, no
[14:34:49] <lunaphyte> !tell jomofcw check_recipient_access
[14:34:49] <knoba> jomofcw: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
[14:36:13] <jomofcw> lunaphyte hello !
[14:36:23] <jomofcw> So, first, I have to disable my transport, right ?
[14:36:29] <jomofcw> As it is useless here.
[14:36:40] <lunaphyte> probably
[14:41:50] <jomofcw> lunaphyte oh in fact after another test, transport work there. But the receiving email server seems to filter the mail :/.
[14:44:27] <jomofcw> Or not... something strange their :/.
[14:44:34] <jomofcw> Sometimes it seems to work, sometime not.
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[14:49:02] <jomofcw> My bad, it work well using transport :D. So now, I have to not filter those email on my receiving server and all will be OK.
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[15:22:47] <lunaphyte> i'm not sure what you're doing, but it sounds bad
[15:30:38] <yupyupp> part
[15:30:41] <yupyupp> oops
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[15:34:40] <petn-randall> jomofcw: How was the first issue fixed?
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[17:54:20] <Kalavera> guys is there a way to make vacation send the out of office notificationwith a from like Some Name <some.name at domain dot com> rather than only some.name at domain dot com?
[17:55:01] <lunaphyte> that would be a question for the community with supports that software
[17:55:19] <lunaphyte> *which
[17:56:51] <lunaphyte> pretty sure that's documented in the man page though
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[18:12:34] <acosonic> hi all I have 28 messages hanging in postqueue and I can't figure out what's wrong with my config
[18:12:54] <lunaphyte> inspect the logs for the given queue ids
[18:13:06] <acosonic> status=deferred (mail transport unavailable)
[18:13:13] <acosonic> that's in log
[18:13:56] <lunaphyte> !tell acosonic getting_Help
[18:13:56] <knoba> acosonic: "getting_Help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
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[18:15:49] <ProfessorKaos64_> !welcome
[18:15:49] <knoba> ProfessorKaos64_: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck!
[18:15:54] <ProfessorKaos64_> I keep getting postfix spam to gmail (accidental send) in /var/log/maillog. How can I stop qmgr/smtp from sending it over and over?
[18:16:03] <acosonic> !showconfig
[18:16:03] <knoba> acosonic: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
[18:16:03] <ProfessorKaos64_> I don't see anything in the postfix queue :(
[18:16:56] <lunaphyte> that's a relief
[18:17:18] <ProfessorKaos64_> i'm worried since audits keeps seeing a connection to gmail :(
[18:17:30] <ProfessorKaos64_> I did a test email a few days ago by accident
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[18:19:27] <lunaphyte> ProfessorKaos64_: pastebin logs. acosonic needs to also
[18:19:31] <jomofcw> petn-randall there was a rule in the router's firwall that block all the SMTP request... :x lol sorry for not pointing this first :/.
[18:19:38] <jomofcw> I have to go, good evening !
[18:19:43] <lunaphyte> just like !getting_help says to
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[18:19:58] <ProfessorKaos64_> lunaphyte: which pastebin sevice? gist ok?
[18:20:06] <lunaphyte> yeah
[18:20:18] <acosonic> !pastebin
[18:20:18] <knoba> acosonic: "pastebin" : a pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, or pastebin.ca. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.
[18:20:56] <ProfessorKaos64_> I just started a month ago, so I'm all worried
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[18:24:07] <ProfessorKaos64_> This is the traffic I am seeing in the /var/log/maillog: Jan 24 08:37:58 GDCHDPMN04PRLX postfix/qmgr[2681]: 1EC0B500141C: from=<user at HOST dot DOMAIN>, status=expired, returned to sender
[18:24:35] <ProfessorKaos64_> then cleanup, bouce, qrmgr do some things and smtp tries to send
[18:26:43] <acosonic> ok, pasted log file also
[18:30:00] <ProfessorKaos64_> are you talking to me? trying to figure out where to go with this next :/
[18:31:14] <acosonic> well I'm talking to anyone who can help
[18:31:51] <lunaphyte> that's a bunch of random log data. instead, follow the directions in the factoid
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[18:36:21] <acosonic> what is factiod?
[18:36:28] <acosonic> sorry for being dumb :)
[18:38:22] <lunaphyte> !tell acosonic factoid
[18:38:22]
<knoba> acosonic: "factoid" : something resembling a fact; unverified and often invented information that is given credibility because it contains words that appear to be something you think you ought to know. see http://workaround.org/f=postfix for a list of knoba's factoids.
[18:38:47] <lunaphyte> !getting_help is a factoid
[18:38:51] <lunaphyte> [for example]
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[18:49:27] <rob0> Prof, "expired" in the log line means maximal_queue_time was reached.
[18:49:49] <rob0> !tell ProfessorKaos64_ maximal_queue_time
[18:49:49] <knoba> rob0: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[18:50:00] <rob0> !tell ProfessorKaos64_ maximal_queue_lifetime
[18:50:00] <knoba> ProfessorKaos64_: "maximal_queue_lifetime" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The maximal time a message is queued before it is sent back as undeliverable, the default value is 5 days.
[18:50:48] <ProfessorKaos64_> knoba: how does that help me though? I don't see anything in queues and there are audit log entries all day today trying to send out to gmail
[18:50:52] <rob0> As for the problem of sending spam to gmail, Just Don't.
[18:51:09] <ProfessorKaos64_> postfix/qmgr[2681]: 78BE75001431: from=<user at host dot geisinger.edu>, status=expired, returned to sender
[18:51:29] <rob0> (Can't give you a useful answer unless you tell us how/why you happen to be spamming gmail.)
[18:51:51] <rob0> !tell ProfessorKaos64_ knoba
[18:51:51]
<knoba> ProfessorKaos64_: "knoba" : (#1) an informational bot in this channel (see http://workaround.org/f=postfix), or (#2) To /msg the bot and get a factoid: /msg knoba whatis #postfix <factoid_name>
[18:52:02] <ProfessorKaos64_> I had a for loop that sent it out initially, but that is no longer
[18:53:14] <ProfessorKaos64_> I can't figure out why qmgr is even doing this
[18:56:10] <rob0> and that did not answer my question
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[19:09:12] <rob0> acosonic, why are you showing us truncated log lines? I assume they are saying, "mail transport unavailable", which might mean your "sender_dependent_default_transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/dependent" is wrongly configured.
[19:09:52] <rob0> Also, there is evidence that you followed a bad tutorial. Why did you set milter_protocol?
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[19:25:25] <acosonic> rob0 I didn't it's default virtualmin configuration
[19:26:30] <jaybe> s/tutorial/configuratorwizardthing/
[19:30:21] <rob0> The "bad" descriptor applies, regardless.
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[19:54:22] <acosonic> ok so I think I narrowed down problem to this warning: connect to transport private/smtp-14385968575870: Connection refused
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[20:20:37] <acosonic> solved it
[20:20:43] <acosonic> trajsport mapping
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