January 20, 2017 
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January 20, 2017 [00:00:20] *** infides <infides!~infides@p5B167FF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[00:00:32] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:02:03] <noby> basically i need to translate all incoming mail sender username to different[00:04:59] <rob0> the ultimate goal is not clear to me, so I don't know what to tell you. I guess you own a domain, host mail (as MX) for it yourself? But you want to use gmail as mailstore? And all this for more than one user?[00:07:17] <jaybe> rob0, is a REJECT/access denied response correct and appropriate in rejecting a blacklisted heavily-spammed address? or is it better to behave/respond differently?[00:07:24] <jaybe> (unrelated question)[00:08:05] <rob0> doesn't matter much unless you expect the rejection to occasionally be seen by a human[00:08:42] <rob0> and another thing, a specific rejection message can jog your memory years later when someone asks you about it :)[00:09:14] <noby> i have multiple vmail_aliases, for example - a at aa dot com a at gmail dot com. all messages sent to a at aa dot com should be forwarded (relayed) to a at gmail dot com using external smtp server(mail provider)[00:09:14] <noby> regardless of the sender[00:10:16] <jaybe> rob0, ok; thanks. was wondering because there are a couple addresses that i refuse to deliver for because they've become so interestingly tageted. i tolerate the continuing delivery attempts for awareness and interest' sake.[00:10:22] <noby> sasl_passwd contains only one entry: [mail.provider.com]:587 username:password[00:10:45] <jaybe> was wondering if my explicit reject response queues bots/whatever to continue versus a better response - goal- being - go away[00:11:09] <rob0> oh, some will stop and others will never stop[00:11:28] <rob0> why should they? They're using stolen resources, costs nothing to continue[00:11:31] <jaybe> rob0, heh i include a unique hash in the response per jerkface and document/associate it with local notes on the subject ;p[00:13:00] <jaybe> it's very interesting to give out, e.g. bestbuy.com at example dot com while checking out ... and watching that blossom and evolve into a filthy display of either breach, sale, etc. of the address. (domain referenced was only an example and does not implicate said domain/company in such practices necessarily)[00:30:17] <rob0> well, what I do depends on recipient_delimiter: I give them rob0-bestbuy at example dot net[00:30:59] <rob0> interestingly it is very rare for companies which were given a tagged address like that to start spamming[00:31:42] <rob0> I can only think of one time, and it was a mailing list, and I think the spam was only a one-time thing at that.[00:33:04] <noby> rob0: http://i.imgur.com/zNKIx7e.png[00:33:25] *** rjsalts <rjsalts!~rjsalts@green.spectralmud.org> has quit IRC (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)[00:33:39] *** rjsalts <rjsalts!~rjsalts@green.spectralmud.org> has joined #postfix[00:41:54] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[00:43:21] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[00:45:58] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[00:46:51] <noby> http://i.imgur.com/q3ExiTJ.png[00:50:04] <thumbs> why are you posting screenshots?[00:50:59] <rob0> they're not screenshots, they're diagrams[00:51:16] <rob0> yes, I broke my rule and looked :)[00:52:01] <rob0> noby, I still don't get what's going on, what is nob.com? Am I supposed to assume you're hosting that (as MX)?[00:52:13] <noby> localhsot[00:54:38] <noby> i am nob[00:54:57] <noby> the big box is my server[00:55:58] <noby> my box connects to gmail smtp and gmail smtp sends message to clientsrealname at gmail dot com[00:58:04] <rob0> who are these MSN addresses?[00:58:21] <noby> clients of my client[00:58:32] <noby> or spammers or whatever[01:14:18] <noby> http://pastebin.com/raw/GrRwERkY[01:23:53] *** parasite_ <parasite_!~parasite@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:24:02] *** parasite__ <parasite__!~parasite@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #postfix[01:32:06] <UncleKiwi> i just enabled submission on my postfix - that port 587 treated differently than 25 or is it exactly the same[01:32:23] <UncleKiwi> ie just another way to get to the smptd engine[01:32:28] <lunaphyte> no[01:32:38] <lunaphyte> it needs to be configured *very* differently[01:32:44] <lunaphyte> that's the whole entire point[01:33:11] <UncleKiwi> its called submission because people submit emails to it[01:33:14] <UncleKiwi> ?[01:33:17] <lunaphyte> yes[01:33:37] <lunaphyte> users [e.g. clients e.g. muas][01:33:41] <lunaphyte> clients are not to connect to port 25. port 25 is only for servers to connect to.[01:33:50] <UncleKiwi> yes i understand that[01:33:58] <lunaphyte> clients [muas] connect to port 587. servers are not to connect to port 587[01:34:15] <UncleKiwi> yes thats why they are seperate right[01:34:23] <lunaphyte> exactly[01:34:58] <lunaphyte> thus, the configuration for port 25 is for servers to do what they need to do. and the configuration for port 587 is for clients to do what they need to do[01:35:00] <UncleKiwi> my port 25 of my postfix will not be exposted to the internet[01:35:31] <UncleKiwi> because my internal postfix sends outgoing emails to a smarthost[01:35:31] <lunaphyte> how will you receive mail from the internet?[01:35:53] <UncleKiwi> my smarthost recieves and passes them in[01:36:06] <lunaphyte> what smarthost?[01:36:16] <UncleKiwi> its actually a UTM[01:36:21] <UncleKiwi> sophos[01:36:28] <lunaphyte> oh. gross[01:36:39] <lunaphyte> why on earth would you put crap like that in front of postfix?[01:36:44] <UncleKiwi> ok ok ahaha it actually works nice[01:36:45] <lunaphyte> then postfix can't do its job[01:37:07] <UncleKiwi> i want to publish 587 to my clients[01:37:08] <lunaphyte> not as nice as postfix works, i can guarantee yo uthat ;)[01:37:14] <lunaphyte> *you that[01:37:28] <UncleKiwi> ok i will move toward that setup[01:37:44] <UncleKiwi> buy for now its working really well with the utm[01:37:52] <UncleKiwi> for incoming messages and out going[01:38:18] <lunaphyte> you will need to turn off ALL postfix features that reject mail[01:38:18] <UncleKiwi> but i want to use submission via the internet[01:38:50] <lunaphyte> postfix CANNOT reject ANY mail, AT ALL [from the internet], f you are going to put some other device in front of it.[01:38:53] <UncleKiwi> formy mua to send[01:38:58] <lunaphyte> *if you[01:39:27] <lunaphyte> if you reject [or bounce] mail with postfix, you will quickly be blacklisted[01:39:28] <UncleKiwi> 587 will be postfix directly exposed to the net[01:39:42] <lunaphyte> [i'm talking about port 25 here][01:39:49] <UncleKiwi> im not bouncing any[01:39:56] <lunaphyte> are you SURE?[01:40:11] <UncleKiwi> my system issues 550 if no mailbox[01:40:13] <UncleKiwi> and yes im sure[01:40:26] <UncleKiwi> no bouncing at all[01:40:47] <lunaphyte> what is "my system"? postfix?[01:41:32] <UncleKiwi> postfix issues the 550 to the utm which does a precheck - when then issues the 550 to the sender[01:42:17] <lunaphyte> that's another thing worth mentioning. in band recipient verification is lame[01:42:25] <lunaphyte> there are better ways to do that[01:42:34] <UncleKiwi> hehe[01:42:40] <lunaphyte> anyway, that's my soliloquy on the matter[01:42:40] <UncleKiwi> im a newbie[01:43:00] <UncleKiwi> and im happy with my nice pretty log files care of sophos[01:43:50] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:43:53] <UncleKiwi> i want to use TLS and SASL with my postfix box using submission to authenticate my senders[01:44:12] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[01:44:13] <UncleKiwi> thats what im working on[01:45:50] <lunaphyte> yes, for submission, encryption and authentication MUST be mandatory - no execptions[01:46:50] <UncleKiwi> yes what i was fining is that when i was enabling it it was effecting the port 25 comminucations between the UTM and postfix[01:46:59] <UncleKiwi> *finding[01:47:30] <lunaphyte> authentication must not be offered on port 25. only on port 587[01:47:47] <lunaphyte> normally [for an mx], encryption should be offered on port 25, but must not be required[01:47:57] <UncleKiwi> yes i understand that but i cant see how to configure it[01:48:08] <lunaphyte> however - in your current scenario, if it were me, i would require encryption on port 25[01:48:14] <lunaphyte> !tell UncleKiwi submission[01:48:14] <knoba> UncleKiwi: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf[01:48:21] <lunaphyte> start with that.[01:48:30] <lunaphyte> if you have trouble, then see !getting_help[01:49:23] <UncleKiwi> graicas[01:49:43] <UncleKiwi> thanks[01:49:52] <lunaphyte> sure thing[01:50:33] <UncleKiwi> i think i would like to have no utm in the mix[01:50:52] <lunaphyte> i think that would be wise[01:51:11] <UncleKiwi> there is a lot of reading and learning with this stuff[01:51:46] <UncleKiwi> but im enjoying it[01:51:58] <noby> !getting_help[01:51:58] <knoba> noby: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[01:52:09] <lunaphyte> good to hear[01:53:01] <noby> !showconfig factoids[01:53:01] <knoba> noby: Error: "showconfig" is not a valid command.[01:53:11] <noby> !showconfig[01:53:11] <knoba> noby: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[01:53:31] <noby> !relevant_logs[01:53:31] <knoba> noby: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[01:54:18] <noby> !plzzz[01:54:18] <knoba> noby: Error: "plzzz" is not a valid command.[01:54:41] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:01:33] *** Aprogas <Aprogas!aprogas@enki.aprogas.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:08:39] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[02:10:01] *** fishcooker <fishcooker!~chika.tam@115.69.222.6> has joined #postfix[02:10:08] *** fishcooker <fishcooker!~chika.tam@115.69.222.6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:12:13] *** Aprogas <Aprogas!aprogas@enki.aprogas.net> has joined #postfix[02:12:41] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[02:14:16] *** noby <noby!~user-athl@78.84.71.241> has left #postfix[02:15:47] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:a83c:f4:3d5c:9915> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye.)[02:18:14] *** Xentil <Xentil!~wiem.ze@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:19:03] *** beatdown <beatdown!beatdown@violator.strangled.net> has joined #postfix[02:21:12] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:30:18] *** davidw <davidw!~davidw@apache/committer/davidw> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[02:50:10] *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:57:34] *** epopt <epopt!~epopt@47.149.151.118> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:03:59] *** liviud <liviud!~liviud@pho.ldcore.com> has joined #postfix[03:05:11] <liviud> hey, i'm trying to set up postfixadmin together with domain alias but the domain virtual mapping doesn't seem to work correctly[03:05:16] *** parasite__ <parasite__!~parasite@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:05:24] *** epopt <epopt!~epopt@47.149.151.118> has joined #postfix[03:05:51] <thumbs> !tell liviud postfixadmin[03:05:51] <knoba> liviud: "postfixadmin" : used for managing email accounts through a web interface (http://high5.net/postfixadmin/). Further, this channel is for issues regarding postfix. For postfixadmin support, please try the postfixadmin mailing list or the postfixadmin channel.[03:06:00] <thumbs> !tell liviud welcome[03:06:00] <knoba> liviud: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![03:06:33] <liviud> well its more like a postfix question than postfixadmin :p[03:06:49] <thumbs> liviud: then follow the /topic to get help[03:07:38] *** parasite_ <parasite_!~parasite@mar75-4-82-230-46-11.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #postfix[03:13:52] <liviud> i just wanted to know if something is possible: domain A , domain B. create inbox X in domain B. Is it possible to configure virtual domain A to point to B so that X@A ends up in X@B mailbox ?[03:14:21] <liviud> and as a matter of fact any newly X,Y,Z created accounts to act like that automagically[03:17:12] <rob0> it's a FAQ and the answer is always, "don't do it." Yes it's possible, but it breaks recipient validation, and you become a backscatter spammer.[03:17:49] <liviud> ok[03:17:55] <rob0> The right way to do it is to script your account additions such that the alias is added too.[03:18:08] <liviud> ok, so thats the recommended way[03:18:09] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[03:18:12] <liviud> thanks[03:18:28] <rob0> (same with removals, you should remove the alias when the account is closed.)[03:18:39] <rob0> yw[03:18:40] <liviud> ok , yeah[03:21:08] *** fishcooker <fishcooker!~chika.tam@202.148.7.34> has joined #postfix[03:22:51] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:40:42] *** samy1028 <samy1028!~samy1028c@63.251.72.10> has joined #postfix[03:53:52] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[03:58:24] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[04:01:02] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@10-249-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has joined #postfix[04:01:59] *** namyzarc <namyzarc!~namyzarc@2601:989:4202:cde1:1986:2af:d933:e17c> has joined #postfix[04:25:53] *** MacWinner <MacWinner!~Blah@192.77.239.202> has joined #postfix[04:29:08] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:29:25] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:36:26] *** yuta <yuta!ba261803@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.38.24.3> has joined #postfix[04:36:59] <yuta> hello, i installed postfix server with dovecot in my vps. i want to read the recieved mails and send mails through my server from my home pc. how can i do that?[04:38:32] <jaybe> begin reading about and learning about how internet email works, domain names, DNS, MX records, ...[04:38:33] <jaybe> !basic[04:38:33] <knoba> jaybe: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[04:54:37] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[04:59:09] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[05:01:44] *** BoomerBile <BoomerBile!~MetaPhaze@96-42-197-150.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Pidgin ate Hexchat! 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from=<mailrelay at email dot com> to=<myname at email dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<servername.address.local>[16:19:46] <metalcated> The account that is the from is the same as the login[16:22:05] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-20-159.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:23:15] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@62-46-98-120.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[16:27:38] <Zerberus> metalcated: but you did not specify the mapping[16:27:44] <Zerberus> !tell metalcated getting_help[16:27:45] <knoba> metalcated: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[16:31:09] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-39-81.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #postfix[16:39:41] <metalcated> !relevant_logs[16:39:41] <knoba> metalcated: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[16:39:55] <metalcated> !showconfig factoids[16:39:55] <knoba> metalcated: Error: "showconfig" is not a valid command.[16:39:58] <metalcated> !showconfig[16:39:58] <knoba> metalcated: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[16:43:11] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has joined #postfix[16:46:29] *** JohnA <JohnA!~john@2606:6d00:100:4302:beae:c5ff:fe29:8c2a> has joined #postfix[16:48:00] <JohnA> ? what permission should /spool/postfix and its sub-directories have?[16:48:50] <JohnA> ooops, that should have been /var/spool/postfix[16:49:14] *** rsx <rsx!~dummy@ppp-93-104-39-81.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:49:24] <JohnA> I am getting a warning that ...public has the wrong ones[16:56:03] <Zerberus> your package manager should do it correct for you and your system[17:00:40] *** Xentil <Xentil!~quassel@ip-46-21-210-22.nette.pl> has joined #postfix[17:03:51] *** djgerm <djgerm!~djgerm@107-136-185-220.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[17:03:51] *** djgerm1 <djgerm1!~djgerm@107-136-185-220.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:05:15] <JohnA> Zerberus: running debian stretch, I understand that, but as I said I am getting an error to the effect that the permission on /var/spool/postfix/public are wrong, is not owned by postdrop. everything elese seems to be ownned by root, and group postfix. my? is that correct, or has something happened that i need to correct?[17:06:04] <JohnA> Zerberus; excuse the poor type, I am useing standing desk for the first time?[17:06:56] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:07:11] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@2001:470:75ee:7777:7525:727e:2ba:ff0a> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:07:34] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has joined #postfix[17:07:53] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:09:22] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[17:09:22] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@p50995cae.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:09:22] *** sarri <sarri!~sari@unaffiliated/sarri> has joined #postfix[17:10:43] *** joulez <joulez!~lucifurba@ppp118-209-133-104.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net> has joined #postfix[17:10:46] *** joulez <joulez!~lucifurba@ppp118-209-133-104.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:10:46] *** joulez <joulez!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[17:11:44] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:13:09] <metalcated> Why would running postconf commands wipe out every single mailbox on the server? I did nothing else command wise to do that[17:13:24] <thumbs> metalcated: heh?[17:13:24] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:13:41] <metalcated> Litterally seconds after I ran those commands my mailboxs were completely wiped out[17:13:50] <thumbs> metalcated: what command did you run?[17:13:58] <metalcated> postconf -nf and postconf -Mf[17:14:07] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@10-249-16-190.fibertel.com.ar> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:14:11] <thumbs> metalcated: it's unrelated. That only parses your configuration.[17:14:47] <metalcated> right, I get that... what the heck would cause that at the same exact time?[17:15:07] <thumbs> metalcated: check your logs.[17:15:16] <metalcated> I did... nothing stands out[17:15:47] <thumbs> perfect then.[17:34:08] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:45:46] *** JohnA <JohnA!~john@2606:6d00:100:4302:beae:c5ff:fe29:8c2a> has left #postfix ("Leaving")[17:46:21] *** Takumo <Takumo!~Takumo@unaffiliated/takumokatekari> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:53:42] *** dargains <dargains!~dargains@187.110.239.75> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:54:24] *** dargains <dargains!~dargains@187.110.239.75> has joined #postfix[17:58:04] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[17:58:34] *** dargains <dargains!~dargains@187.110.239.75> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:59:53] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[18:02:57] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:10:02] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@93-33-134-44.ip44.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:11:21] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx2.ernw.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:12:44] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:13:01] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has joined #postfix[18:18:58] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[18:24:40] *** muh2000_ <muh2000_!~quassel@prx2.ernw.net> has joined #postfix[18:25:13] <tinjaw> I am trying to troubleshoot this line in my maillog[18:25:15] <tinjaw> Jan 20 12:16:11 mail postfix/proxymap[29497]: warning: mysql:/etc/postfix/sql/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf is unavailable. open /etc/postfix/sql/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf: Permission denied[18:25:38] <jaybe> what don't you understand from that messaging[18:25:43] <tinjaw> I don’t remember in the past having to make any particular file permission changes[18:25:53] <jaybe> inspect and identify the permissions and expectations[18:26:21] <tinjaw> the permissions are what they are on my other box that is working that I am trying to duplicate[18:26:32] <tinjaw> so I think this is just a side effect of some other error[18:26:45] <tinjaw> or atleast an indirect indication of the real error[18:26:55] <jaybe> i disagree; i think it's pretty clear[18:27:11] <jaybe> 'permission denied' in accessing/opening /etc/postfix/sql/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf[18:27:40] <tinjaw> and the permissions on that file are exactly the same on my other working machine[18:27:56] <tinjaw> what ‘user’ is attempting to access?[18:28:02] <tinjaw> how do I determine that?[18:29:17] <jaybe> perhaps try: `namei -l /etc/postfix/sql/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf`[18:29:36] <jaybe> a pastebin i have access to is https://p.ngx.cc[18:30:01] <petn-randall> tinjaw: Does the directory /etc/postfix/sql/ have the correct x bit for postfix?[18:33:04] <tinjaw> let me paste. standby[18:34:12] <tinjaw> https://p.ngx.cc/bf[18:37:24] <jaybe> tinjaw, which operating system an distribution[18:37:47] <tinjaw> I am running CentOS 7[18:39:24] *** davidw <davidw!~davidw@apache/committer/davidw> has joined #postfix[18:41:37] <Zerberus> restorecon -Rv /etc/postfix[18:43:34] <tinjaw> @Zerberus I think that is it[18:44:19] <tinjaw> Zerberus: whenever somebody helps me out on IRC for FOSS I donate $5 to their project of choice[18:44:20] <jaybe> wouldn't be the first time ;p restorecon - restore file(s) default SELinux security contexts.[18:45:12] <Zerberus> tinjaw: you are welcome[18:46:17] <Zerberus> tinjaw: help here is free, but as it is free being a voluntary service nobody can claim a right to get help[18:51:25] *** BigRedS <BigRedS!~avi@217.207.137.139> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:51:51] *** JohnA <JohnA!~john@2606:6d00:100:4302:beae:c5ff:fe29:8c2a> has joined #postfix[18:55:23] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:55:42] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[19:00:44] *** djgerm <djgerm!~djgerm@107-136-185-220.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:00:51] *** djgerm <djgerm!~djgerm@107-136-185-220.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #postfix[19:07:31] *** MacWinner <MacWinner!~Blah@192.77.239.202> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[19:11:05] *** infides <infides!~infides@p5B167E06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[19:12:23] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@92.55.117.100> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:17:45] *** J0hnSteel <J0hnSteel!~J0hnSteel@92.55.117.100> has joined #postfix[19:25:52] *** pti-jean_ <pti-jean_!~quassel@47.32.124.78.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:38:27] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Quit: gu1lle_)[19:38:40] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[19:45:09] *** draynium <draynium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org> has quit IRC (Quit: <No reason given>)[19:45:45] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:45:57] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[19:48:59] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:49:31] *** draynium <draynium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org> has joined #postfix[19:50:44] *** muh2000 <muh2000!~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000> has joined #postfix[19:56:28] *** golden_receiver <golden_receiver!~andry@unaffiliated/golden-receiver/x-4949035> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:05:04] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.71.40> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:09:28] *** Death_rattle <Death_rattle!~death@p200300868A713B010000000000000003.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[20:13:10] *** Zerberus <Zerberus!~dogtail@irc.sys5.org> has quit IRC (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)[20:16:58] *** bolt <bolt!r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:17:12] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[20:17:48] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has joined #postfix[20:18:53] *** bolt <bolt!r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[20:21:06] *** Zerberus <Zerberus!~dogtail@irc.sys5.org> has joined #postfix[20:22:30] *** golden_receiver <golden_receiver!~andry@unaffiliated/golden-receiver/x-4949035> has joined #postfix[20:25:26] *** michelem <michelem!~Adium@xdsl-31-164-106-61.adslplus.ch> has joined #postfix[20:25:53] *** dargains <dargains!~dargains@187.110.239.75> has joined #postfix[20:28:54] <michelem> hello folks[20:30:13] <michelem> I have a postfix MTA to which N other servers send emails to. I'd like to have all cron emails from the N servers get to one address, no matter what username. Any chance to do so?[20:32:25] *** bolt <bolt!r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:35:07] *** bolt <bolt!r00t@unaffiliated/bolt> has joined #postfix[20:48:21] *** Phoenixz <Phoenixz!~quassel@187-163-219-201.static.axtel.net> has joined #postfix[20:52:55] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@93-35-63-42.ip53.fastwebnet.it> has joined #postfix[20:54:10] *** axisys_ <axisys_!~axisys@ip68-98-177-155.dc.dc.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[20:54:40] *** axisys <axisys!~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys> has joined #postfix[20:57:57] <lunaphyte> configure cron on the n servers to send email to the desired email address[21:07:22] *** ntnlzr <ntnlzr!~ntnlzr@pix.gsy.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:07:35] *** Zumochi <Zumochi!~Zumochi@unaffiliated/zumochi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:08:46] *** Zumochi <Zumochi!~Zumochi@ns397618.ip-151-80-40.eu> has joined #postfix[21:08:46] *** Zumochi <Zumochi!~Zumochi@ns397618.ip-151-80-40.eu> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:08:46] *** Zumochi <Zumochi!~Zumochi@unaffiliated/zumochi> has joined #postfix[21:16:33] *** draynium <draynium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org> has quit IRC (Quit: <No reason given>)[21:33:44] *** dargains <dargains!~dargains@187.110.239.75> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:36:12] *** draynium <draynium!U2FsdGVkX1@ma.sdf.org> has joined #postfix[21:53:41] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Quit: gu1lle_)[21:54:42] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has joined #postfix[21:58:48] *** robinho86 <robinho86!~robsonjf@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Write error: Broken pipe)[22:04:40] *** fiddlerwoaroof <fiddlerwoaroof!~fiddlerwo@unaffiliated/fiddlerwoaroof> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:05:15] *** fiddlerwoaroof <fiddlerwoaroof!~fiddlerwo@unaffiliated/fiddlerwoaroof> has joined #postfix[22:11:29] *** dka_ <dka_!~dka@118.69.28.164> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:23:37] *** TyrfingM1olnir <TyrfingM1olnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:38:07] *** Diemuzi <Diemuzi!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/diemuzi> has quit IRC (Quit: See you on the flip side)[22:38:21] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:38:33] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[22:44:51] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[22:48:21] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@181.167.195.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:49:13] *** jahrichie <jahrichie!~Adium@158.106.196.106> has joined #postfix[22:49:34] *** synthroi_ <synthroi_!~synthroid@208.167.254.10> has quit IRC ()[22:50:12] <jahrichie> hey yall, having an issue with postfix/smtp with our new provider campaign monitor. I'm getting QUIT printed to the bottom of every email[22:50:36] <jahrichie> CM Dev support said "SMTP commands sent must be terminated with the characters \r\n and not \n. Some libraries by default use \n, so can you please check to confirm the characters your library uses to terminate SMTP commands?"[22:51:31] <pj> postfix/smtp sends \r\n[22:52:10] <jahrichie> @pj is this set through sendmail_fix_line_endings ?[22:52:26] <jahrichie> i wanted to play with some different options[22:52:48] <jahrichie> gotta get that darn QUIT out of my msgs[22:53:09] <pj> jahrichie: that setting has to do with message line endings, not command line endings.[22:53:36] <rob0> no, it's set by default and not configurable. Postfix implements RFC 821,2821,5321, so it's already sending \r\n at the end of a line.[22:54:10] <jahrichie> darn[22:54:17] <jahrichie> chasing my tail aye?[22:54:19] <rob0> !gigo[22:54:20] <knoba> rob0: "gigo" : Garbage In, Garbage Out: a basic law in computing (and everything.)[22:54:40] <rob0> I think the Garbage In is coming from somewhere else.[22:54:46] <pj> yep[22:55:18] <rob0> (would be a cool name for a geeky bar, the Garbage Inn)[22:55:39] <pj> how do the messages come into postfix? smtpd? submission? pickup?[22:55:55] <jahrichie> @pj we're only outbound[22:56:05] <jahrichie> @pj current config https://gist.github.com/jahrichie/4798c428b10e54c5e42c9d11207642b8[22:56:10] <jahrichie> i don't see anything that stands out[22:56:19] <pj> jahrichie: wrong, postfix does not make up messages out of the blue and send them.[22:56:21] <jahrichie> weird tooo, same config works with SES/Mailgun[22:56:36] <rob0> how do the message come into Postfix?[22:56:50] <jahrichie> @pj i thought u were referring to inbound outbound smtp, apologies[22:56:53] <jahrichie> my applications rails[22:57:05] <rob0> but HOW[22:57:09] <pj> bleh, just do this...[22:57:14] <pj> !tell jahrichie getting_help[22:57:14] <knoba> jahrichie: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[22:57:19] <Aprogas> My WAG is to blame the relayhost[22:57:43] *** FinboySlick <FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:57:43] <jahrichie> !relevant_logs[22:57:44] <knoba> jahrichie: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[22:57:58] <rob0> And if you're using an ESP as it sounds, why would you even need Postfix involved?[22:58:22] <pj> he's using postfix as a nullclient, obviously.[23:03:06] *** Death_rattle <Death_rattle!~death@p200300868A713B010000000000000003.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:19:40] <jahrichie> !showconfig factoids[23:19:40] <knoba> jahrichie: Error: "showconfig" is not a valid command.[23:20:00] <jahrichie> !showconfig[23:20:00] <knoba> jahrichie: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[23:32:34] *** LeoTh3o <LeoTh3o!~LeoTh3o@phoxden.xyz> has joined #postfix[23:32:53] *** Zumochi <Zumochi!~Zumochi@unaffiliated/zumochi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:43:44] <tinjaw> https://gist.github.com/tinjaw/4f346e55b57b8d34eeccadd1aa8f31c1[23:43:50] <tinjaw> Here’s my config[23:44:56] <tinjaw> I am attempting to add amavisd. Which means using an internal MTA at 10025, but it is requiring STARTTLS. I don’t think I want that requirement for an internal pipe. How do I properly fix that issue?[23:46:01] <Zerberus> tinjaw: line 47 can hardly work[23:46:25] <Zerberus> and remove line 50 setting, deprecated[23:47:16] <tinjaw> I’ll try that[23:47:23] <tinjaw> FYI RE: https://access.redhat.com/articles/1468593[23:49:15] <Zerberus> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_tls_security_level[23:49:56] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:9474:e052:60b8:da67> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:50:17] *** Zumochi <Zumochi!~Zumochi@ns397618.ip-151-80-40.eu> has joined #postfix[23:50:17] *** Zumochi <Zumochi!~Zumochi@ns397618.ip-151-80-40.eu> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:50:17] *** Zumochi <Zumochi!~Zumochi@unaffiliated/zumochi> has joined #postfix[23:51:17] <Zerberus> poor article, even wrong in parts[23:52:49] <Zerberus> "Should contain the server certificate followed by any intermediate certificates and then the root certificate." a service does not provide the root CA, it is the client side which decides whether it likes to have a root CA in the trusted certificates store[23:53:05] <thumbs> Zerberus: yikes[23:53:36] <tinjaw> is there a better RTFM I should use instead?[23:54:19] <Zerberus> tinjaw: it is wise to check each parameter you set in man 5 postconf to comprehend what it means and causes[23:54:40] *** infides <infides!~infides@p5B167E06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:55:26] <Zerberus> I am really surprise that this short article, lacking a lot of explanations, exists under the hood of the Red Hat knowledge base[23:56:24] <thumbs> Zerberus: me too.[23:56:41] *** jahrichie <jahrichie!~Adium@158.106.196.106> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:56:42] <thumbs> Zerberus: it not only lacks explanations, it's misleading