January 5, 2017 
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January 5, 2017 [00:03:32] *** d0nn1e <d0nn1e!~d0nn1e@cpe-104-138-218-156.triad.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[00:15:49] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167C35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[00:16:18] *** troys_ is now known as troys[00:44:09] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@ip-47-24.sn2.clouditalia.com> has joined #postfix[01:20:41] *** gu1lle_1 <gu1lle_1!~Thunderbi@190.18.4.241> has joined #postfix[01:22:29] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.4.241> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:22:29] *** gu1lle_1 is now known as gu1lle_[01:34:24] *** sputnik <sputnik!~kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[01:37:06] *** drexter <drexter!~drexter@stockeld.se> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:37:52] *** drexter <drexter!~drexter@stockeld.se> has joined #postfix[01:43:55] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:414b:595d:4fb5:f1cb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:43:56] *** 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quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[03:13:07] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[03:25:31] <pj> catbeard: with smtpd_milters and/or non_smtpd_milters[03:26:01] <tuxick> opendkim doc is pretty consise but correct :)[03:26:14] <pj> those two settings are the extent of the postfix interface to it.[03:26:33] <pj> the rest is all opendkim installation and configuration[03:51:44] <tuxick> afair it's mentioned[04:05:20] *** infernix <infernix!nix@unaffiliated/infernix> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[04:05:20] *** adymitruk <adymitruk!~adymitruk@personal.dymitruk.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[04:05:20] *** [NoClan]GoAway <[NoClan]GoAway!~NoClan@46.166.170.45> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[04:05:20] *** w0jtas <w0jtas!~Adium@pab193.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[04:05:20] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[04:05:20] *** buki <buki!~buki@dev.null.cz> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[04:05:20] *** bjoe2k4 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<freepe!~quassel@186.19.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #postfix[04:09:28] *** chachasmooth <chachasmooth!~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth> has joined #postfix[04:09:31] *** ghostlight <ghostlight!~ghostligh@ec2-54-187-97-144.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[04:20:51] <catbeard> ok same with centos6/7? also, milter_protocol 2 or 6?[04:21:42] * lunaphyte smells a crappy "howto"[04:22:39] <lunaphyte> my advice is to leave milter_protocol alone unless either the author of opendkim or the author of postfix suggests otherwise[04:24:06] *** ghostlight <ghostlight!~ghostligh@ec2-54-187-97-144.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com> has joined #postfix[04:26:25] <catbeard> okay, was looking at several howto's and that's the only weird thing that stood out[04:26:35] <lunaphyte> avoid howtos[04:26:57] <lunaphyte> instead, use the documentation provided by the author[s]. they did take the time to write it, after all.[04:27:26] *** MuffinMedic <MuffinMedic!Evan@unaffiliated/muffinmedic> has joined #postfix[04:27:30] <rob0> milter_protocol is a hack for when you're using a milter older than your Postfix[04:30:23] <lunaphyte> that's the other half of it. if you have contemporary software demanding old milter protocol versions, get rid of it[04:32:25] *** infernix <infernix!nix@unaffiliated/infernix> has joined #postfix[04:42:00] <catbeard> recent postfix and recent opendkim packages, so likely should be untouched[04:55:11] <pj> I've never had to set milter_protocol for opendkim[04:57:25] <pj> hell, I even have a crusty old server that still runs dkim_milter (but runs pf 3.1) and even it doesn't need milter_protocol[05:42:00] <tuxick> i remember using it for spamassassin milter but no idea of still required[05:42:50] *** troys is now known as troys_[05:43:50] *** troys_ is now known as troys[05:45:00] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[05:49:25] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[05:56:12] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[06:11:49] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:12:47] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[06:20:01] *** sphenxes01 <sphenxes01!~sphenxes@85-90-156-246.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[06:47:57] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:58:32] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has joined #postfix[06:58:32] *** aqua^c <aqua^c!~aqua@114.111.60.64> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:11:12] *** micw <micw!~micw@p50992bfa.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[07:11:17] <micw> hi[07:11:38] <micw> from time to time i get the following type of delivery failures:[07:11:40] *** troys is now known as troys_[07:11:54] <micw> <.... at outlook dot com>: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for[07:11:54] <micw> name=mx4.hotmail.com type=AAAA: Host found but no data record of requested[07:11:55] <micw> type[07:12:21] <micw> seems that postfix tries to lookup ipv6 record only[07:12:48] <micw> the mx has a valid ipv4 record, so imo it should use this if ipv6 fails[07:13:43] <micw> (the machine has not even an ipv6 address, so i wonder why postfix tries to lookup that record)[07:18:17] *** Voovode <Voovode!~Alex@owbqbf.static.otenet.gr> has joined #postfix[07:18:39] *** Voovode <Voovode!~Alex@owbqbf.static.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:19:07] *** Voovode <Voovode!~Alex@tenatena.static.otenet.gr> has joined #postfix[07:32:58] *** Voovode <Voovode!~Alex@tenatena.static.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Byeeeeeeeee!)[07:58:03] *** troys_ <troys_!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[08:04:28] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:05:08] *** olegfusion <olegfusion!~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru> has joined #postfix[08:51:17] <skylite> when I do telnet localhost 587 and I get to: "530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first" what should I (in theory) do after starttls? How could I communicate with the server?[08:51:19] *** Oclairi <Oclairi!~Oclair@178-190-94-246.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye Bye)[08:56:48] *** bruflu_ <bruflu_!~bruno@112.225.5.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[09:04:32] *** ghostlight <ghostlight!~ghostligh@ec2-54-187-97-144.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[09:08:06] *** ghostlight <ghostlight!~ghostligh@ec2-54-187-97-144.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com> has joined #postfix[09:09:47] *** zorg1 <zorg1!~zorg1@LNeuilly-656-1-74-35.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #postfix[09:12:28] *** foosel_ <foosel_!2efd3a56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.253.58.86> has joined #postfix[09:12:59] *** Ders <Ders!~DZ@39.38.110.76> has joined #postfix[09:13:06] *** foosel_ <foosel_!2efd3a56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.253.58.86> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:18:54] <skylite> is the openssl s_client -starttls smtp -crlf localhost:25 what Im looking for?[09:20:52] <skylite> (with -connect)[09:26:04] *** d0nn1e <d0nn1e!~d0nn1e@cpe-104-138-218-156.triad.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[09:26:41] *** froz-gab <froz-gab!~froz-gab@ip-47-24.sn2.clouditalia.com> has joined #postfix[09:27:52] *** micw <micw!~micw@p50992bfa.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:29:00] *** d0nn1e <d0nn1e!~d0nn1e@cpe-104-138-218-156.triad.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[09:49:16] <pj> skylite: yes[09:49:23] <pj> you can't do TLS through telnet[09:50:00] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:80aa:8497:9fc8:8107> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:50:11] <pj> !s_client[09:50:11] <knoba> pj: "s_client" : Starting with OpenSSL 0.9.7, you can test the server-side TLS with the following: openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect <hostname>:587 (or :25, accordingly).[09:52:46] <skylite> I know its a stupid question but why cant I do tls troguh telnet?[10:01:38] *** zapata <zapata!~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:d875:18f2:e4ed:f024> has joined #postfix[10:04:21] *** Ders <Ders!~DZ@39.38.110.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:07:40] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[10:09:28] <pj> because telnet is not a TLS client[10:10:06] *** BigRedS <BigRedS!~avi@217.207.137.139> has joined #postfix[10:19:32] <skylite> pj: I dont think I understand what telnet does. why can I even speak smtp in telnet?[10:21:14] *** infides_afk <infides_afk!~infides@p5B167DF6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[10:22:52] *** level7 <level7!~quassel@31.44.16.132> has joined #postfix[10:23:38] *** joules <joules!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has joined #postfix[10:26:59] *** joulez <joulez!~lucifurba@pdpc/supporter/active/joulez> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[10:32:59] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:33:16] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[10:34:15] <skylite> or my question is rather, why cant I speak tls in telnet? if i could just "speak tls" like a tls client does, cant I just paste the same data in telnet? (the tls handshake, etc..)[10:39:00] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:39:33] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[10:40:24] *** ouba <ouba!~ouba@4aa54-6-88-168-231-68.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #postfix[10:40:30] <ouba> Hello[10:44:02] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[10:49:11] *** sputnik <sputnik!~kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[10:50:24] <ouba> I just read some litterature about envelope and header rewriting[10:50:40] <ouba> and some conversation in the archive of the channel[10:51:00] <ouba> I have a postfix configured as a relay for a web platform[10:51:13] <ouba> applications don't set correctly the from for the envelop[10:51:27] <ouba> so I have a mismatch between the envelope from and the header from[10:51:35] <ouba> the correct one is the header from[10:51:58] <ouba> I would like to "copy" the header from to the envelope from when mail leave my relay[10:52:35] <ouba> it seems not to be an uncommon problem, but I can't find a clear solution to this issue :([10:57:40] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@62-46-102-163.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:59:48] *** markus_e92 <markus_e92!~markus_e9@91-115-17-7.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[11:08:00] <pj> skylite: TLS is a binary protocol, so it would be very difficult, if not impossible to "speak" it into telnet, and anything you get back would be gibberish because it is (1) binary and (2) encrypted.[11:09:01] <skylite> pj: I see thx[11:09:42] *** sputnik <sputnik!kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf> has joined #postfix[11:12:08] <pj> ouba: the envelope sender is not always supposed to match the From: header, and some clients will set it differently on purpose. If you try to change it you will break that.[11:13:11] <ouba> pj: indeed we want that[11:13:19] <ouba> it is not "normal" users[11:13:24] <ouba> it is only applications[11:13:51] <ouba> and depending the langage, the library, etc ... the envelop sender is set to the user of the system @ servername[11:14:10] <ouba> and it is not a valid domain name => problem of spam, etc ...[11:14:30] <ouba> or simply of rejection because it is not a valid domain, no MX, etc ...[11:14:31] <pj> well, my best advice is to fix your clients, but barring that there is canonical_maps which can likely help you[11:14:41] <pj> !tell ouba sender_canonical_maps[11:14:42] <knoba> ouba: "sender_canonical_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address mapping lookup tables for envelope and header sender addresses. The table format and lookups are documented in canonical(5).[11:15:21] <ouba> I know about canonical_maps but I can only have a correspondance by envelope from[11:15:39] <ouba> and the application can send from different address from the same servers[11:16:01] <ouba> indeed, we try to migrate from exim to postfix[11:16:15] <ouba> and exim had this functionnality[11:16:29] <ouba> I just want to reproduce the behaviour with postfix for a migration[11:16:46] <ouba> Unfortunately, I cannot fix all the application in the time I have :([11:17:04] *** sputnik <sputnik!kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[11:17:34] <ouba> if I can't, I will stick to exim and see the migration to postfix later :([11:20:36] *** sputnik <sputnik!kli0rf@unaffiliated/kli0rf> has joined #postfix[11:22:44] <pj> ouba: the only ways I can think of to do what you want would involve either a content filter or milter.[11:23:28] <ouba> pj: it is also my conclusion[11:23:45] <ouba> pj: where can I find 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think telnet can do it, but "in theory" something similar could do it.[16:50:18] <ouba> skylite : no telnet can only do plaintext[16:50:36] <ouba> openssl s_client is similar to telnet[16:50:40] <ouba> but for ssl[16:50:50] <ouba> you can also do it with http, imap, pop, etc ...[16:54:50] <rob0> I think the question is how to duplicate the STARTTLS exchange, and you could in theory paste stuff into a TCP socket[16:59:57] *** creature <creature!~alex@last.fm/alumnus/acreature> has joined #postfix[17:03:39] <creature> Let's say I have a company, foo.com, that uses GMail to power its corporate mail and SendGrid to send stuff from its app. As a result, its SPF record will have something like "include:_spf.google.com include:sendgrid.net ~all". But, is there some way to "lock things down" further? Does foo.com have to live with any gmail/sendgrid user being able to send passable mail as ceo at foo dot com due to the SPF policy?[17:03:48] <creature> (This is a more general email question rather than anything Postfix-specific, but I don't know a better channel to ask for that. Sorry.)[17:07:05] <honestly> Well, SPF is host-based. It defines a policy of which hosts/IPs are allowed to send email for a domain. It can't express anything else.[17:13:22] <creature> honestly: That makes sense. Is there something else that allows for more control? Such as "SendGrid is only authorised to send emails as noreply at foo dot com", for instance.[17:13:57] <honestly> I'm not aware of anything like that.[17:14:29] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has joined #postfix[17:14:30] <rob0> use a hostname, sendgrid.example.com for example[17:14:31] <creature> I was also hoping for something MTA-based. I know Gmail adds an X-Original-Sender header, for instance, and I think SendGrid makes you jump through a hoop to prove you control foo.com. But I didn't know if there was some other technology that would help authenticity.[17:14:55] <creature> (Rather than relying on third-party services to do the right thing)[17:18:56] <rob0> of course that works for sendgrid, but not for gmail. But that's how it is when you choose to rely on gmail, you're relying on their security and DTRT.[17:19:41] *** Deathrattle <Deathrattle!~death@p200300868A0B96010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #postfix[17:21:07] <creature> Okay, thanks. :) I am reasonably au fait with SPF and I am aware that DKIM exists, but that's about where my knowledge ends so I wanted to make sure that I wasn't overlooking something that would address that case.[17:23:05] *** Pies <Pies!~Pies@srv229.opcja.pl> has joined #postfix[17:23:20] *** ExoUNX <ExoUNX!~ExoUNX@unaffiliated/exounx> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:24:57] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:25:04] *** ExoUNX <ExoUNX!~ExoUNX@unaffiliated/exounx> has joined #postfix[17:27:34] <honestly> yeah, use a mail domain like sendgrid.yourcompany.com, or something like newsletter.yourcompany.com to make it less obvious[17:27:39] <honestly> for sendgrid[17:27:49] <honestly> then you only have to worry about gmail for the main domain[17:39:37] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #postfix[17:42:00] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:47:09] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[17:50:18] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has joined #postfix[17:53:22] *** fatdragon <fatdragon!~fatdragon@cpe-107-184-105-188.socal.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[17:57:23] *** mcfate <mcfate!~textual@174-134-145-16.res.bhn.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:00:08] *** ntnlzr is now known as ntnlzr|out[18:00:57] *** BigRedS <BigRedS!~avi@217.207.137.139> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:03:47] *** benone <benone!~benone@web.tiangola.co.ao> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:04:57] *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has joined #postfix[18:05:24] *** troulouliou_div2 <troulouliou_div2!~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:07:55] *** benone <benone!~benone@web.tiangola.co.ao> has joined #postfix[18:14:32] *** davidw <davidw!~davidw@apache/committer/davidw> has joined #postfix[18:15:04] *** troys <troys!~troys@23-24-139-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye)[18:35:26] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has quit IRC (Quit: inabit. zz.)[18:49:14] *** BCB <BCB!448499c5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.132.153.197> has joined #postfix[18:49:36] <BCB> !showconfig[18:49:36] <knoba> BCB: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[18:49:54] <BCB> !pastebin[18:49:54] <knoba> BCB: "pastebin" : a pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, or pastebin.ca. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[18:52:15] *** davidw <davidw!~davidw@apache/committer/davidw> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:56:17] *** mcfate <mcfate!~textual@174-134-145-16.res.bhn.net> has joined #postfix[19:04:46] *** davidw <davidw!~davidw@apache/committer/davidw> has joined #postfix[19:11:39] <BCB> I've configured master.cf to send and receiving on behalf of sites (ips). Everything was working fine until I tired to add a third site. So I removed a the third site and now I'm getting errors on the two original domains that worked previouslyl. I'm running Postfix 3.1.0 on Ubuntu 16.4.01. Here is the postconf:https://dpaste.de/Ru6V/raw Here is the current error log:https://dpaste.de/JRUq/raw Any insight would be greatly appreci[19:11:51] <BCB> *2 Sites[19:14:22] <lunaphyte> which entry in master.cf results in those log message?[19:14:57] <lunaphyte> looks like you've not included it in your pastebin?[19:16:10] <lunaphyte> oh, the symptom arrived when adding the third site, but stayed even after removal lf it?[19:17:33] *** LiberalSquash <LiberalSquash!~LiberalSq@kol-kvintus.cust.fsknet.dk> has joined #postfix[19:17:37] *** LiberalSquash <LiberalSquash!~LiberalSq@kol-kvintus.cust.fsknet.dk> has left #postfix[19:19:21] <BCB> lunaphyte: i had two sites working fine. Added third site. It worked for a while then it bonked with a strange error:Jan 5 13:07:06 server postfix/smtpd[16635]: fatal: invalid option: ?. I removed that site from the configuration and I'm getting the current errors I've posted[19:21:03] <BCB> I'm now also getting "mail transport unavailable" errors[19:26:37] *** shaytan <shaytan!~shaytan@c-83-233-76-171.cust.bredband2.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[19:27:16] *** shaytan <shaytan!~shaytan@c-83-233-76-171.cust.bredband2.com> has joined #postfix[19:28:27] <lunaphyte> i would comment out the various smtpd processes to narrow things down[19:30:46] *** AnxiousGarlic <AnxiousGarlic!~AnxiousGa@52d3d456.dynamic-ip.k-net.dk> has joined #postfix[19:30:50] *** AnxiousGarlic <AnxiousGarlic!~AnxiousGa@52d3d456.dynamic-ip.k-net.dk> has left #postfix[19:33:12] *** hispeed_m <hispeed_m!~hispeed@pub151248139002.dh-hfc.datazug.ch> has joined #postfix[19:38:17] <hispeed_m> Hi, I have a Synology on DSM 6.0 with Zarafa4h installed on it. This is working in a virtual box via Docker on the Synology. Included there is also postfix to send mails. I want to have multiple relay hosts and users also called as Smarthosts. The config you can see here: http://pastebin.com/RfWVLr1z This set up used to work in a earlier version I was able to send from 1 user to different[19:38:18] <hispeed_m> relay hosts with different mail adresses.[19:40:25] <BCB> lunaphyte: I'll try that. Tanks.[19:40:27] <BCB> Thanks[19:58:24] *** Section1 <Section1!~section1@190.195.71.40> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:06:12] *** creature <creature!~alex@last.fm/alumnus/acreature> has left #postfix[20:15:55] *** mikecmpbll <mikecmpbll!~mikecmpbl@ruby/staff/mikecmpbll> has joined #postfix[20:41:40] *** sphenxes02 <sphenxes02!~sphenxes@192-164-137-158.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[20:44:46] *** pburrows <pburrows!~pburrows@82-69-115-244.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:45:11] *** sphenxes01 <sphenxes01!~sphenxes@85-90-156-246.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:45:29] *** sphenxes <sphenxes!~sphenxes@85-90-156-246.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:45:35] *** sphenxes01 <sphenxes01!~sphenxes@192-164-137-158.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[20:56:13] *** fredl <fredl!~fredl@2001:980:942a:1:e239:36f3:ec33:510a> has joined #postfix[21:08:12] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:414b:595d:4fb5:f1cb> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:08:49] *** Darcidride <Darcidride!~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:ece3:b82d:9220:e2f1> has joined #postfix[21:17:49] *** sphenxes <sphenxes!~sphenxes@192-164-137-158.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #postfix[21:18:07] <fredl> !relevant_logs[21:18:08] <knoba> fredl: "relevant_logs" : mail.* syslog Postfix log messages (NOT verbose, see !no_verbose) which show ONLY the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log are not adequate. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents often log to the same syslog facility (mail); filter such messages out unless asked not to.[21:18:33] <fredl> !showconfig[21:18:34] <knoba> fredl: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, please provide a SINGLE pastebin with postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[21:19:34] *** sphenxes02 <sphenxes02!~sphenxes@192-164-137-158.hdsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:19:46] <fredl> got a question about http://ix.io/1P1m[21:21:44] <fredl> When I try to send an email to one of the aliases in virt_alias_tables I get http://ix.io/1Pfw[21:22:20] <fredl> I mean virtual_alias_maps[21:23:02] <fredl> Yet postmap -q on the alias works.[21:23:38] <fredl> any idea why?[21:27:31] <fredl> DB stuff in http://ix.io/1Pfx[21:27:46] *** DonRichie <DonRichie!~DonRichie@ricl.de> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[21:28:06] <fredl> anybody?[21:28:09] *** DonRichie <DonRichie!~DonRichie@ricl.de> has joined #postfix[21:56:32] *** MacWinner <MacWinner!~Blah@192.77.239.202> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[21:57:08] <fredl> great, I'm never gonna get this to work :([21:59:33] <BCB> fredl: patience grasshopper[21:59:55] <BCB> fredl: what does your virtual_alias_maps looklike?[22:00:12] <fredl> http://ix.io/1Pfx[22:00:46] <Zerberus> and virtual_mailbox_domains provides iwantisell.com?[22:01:04] <fredl> yes[22:01:06] <Zerberus> use postmap -q to check[22:01:30] <fredl> what's the exact command you'd like me to do?[22:01:57] <Zerberus> postmap -q "string" mysql:/...[22:02:40] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@86.123.182.225> has joined #postfix[22:03:08] <fredl> I'm not sure what you mean Zerberus.[22:03:28] <fredl> Sorry, not an expert at this by any means.[22:03:51] <Zerberus> some thinking required - postmap -q "iwantisell.com" mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf[22:04:16] <fredl> yes that outputs iwantisell.com[22:04:22] <Zerberus> postmap -q "marketing at iwantisell dot com" mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf[22:04:42] <fredl> that outputs fredl at 3dn dot nl[22:04:54] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@86.123.182.225> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:04:54] *** Guest43 <Guest43!~textual@unaffiliated/rufus> has joined #postfix[22:04:58] *** Guest43 is now known as Rufus[22:07:05] <fredl> could it somehow have something to do with the dovecot relay?[22:10:04] <Zerberus> receive_override_options = no_address_mappings <-- why that?!?![22:11:45] <fredl> picked that up from.... *thinking*[22:13:13] <fredl> could be from when I was setting up spamassassing but not sure anymore. Looking up its meaning.[22:13:59] <Zerberus> it does not good for you[22:14:57] <fredl> Disable canonical address mapping, virtual alias map expansion, address masquerading, and automatic BCC (blind carbon-copy) recipients. This is typically specified BEFORE an external content filter.[22:15:05] <fredl> Grrr, looks like it.[22:16:01] <fredl> wow, that was it, thanks a bunch Zerberus![22:17:09] <fredl> could that mess up the spamassassing filtering though?[22:26:16] *** d0nn1e <d0nn1e!~d0nn1e@cpe-104-138-218-156.triad.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:27:23] *** cesdo <cesdo!~user@193.151.224.40> has joined #postfix[22:28:45] *** d0nn1e <d0nn1e!~d0nn1e@cpe-104-138-218-156.triad.res.rr.com> has joined #postfix[22:41:31] *** bjoe2k4 <bjoe2k4!bjoe2k4@2a03:4000:9:55::1> has joined #postfix[22:49:36] *** synthroid <synthroid!~synthroid@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/synthroid> has quit IRC ()[23:11:10] *** tmberg <tmberg!tmberg@unaffiliated/tmberg> has joined #postfix[23:17:23] *** ExoUNX <ExoUNX!~ExoUNX@unaffiliated/exounx> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:20:43] *** ghormoon <ghormoon!~ghormoon@ghorland.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:24:11] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.4.241> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:25:30] *** gu1lle_ <gu1lle_!~Thunderbi@190.18.4.241> has joined #postfix[23:25:56] *** puzzled <puzzled!~puzzled@2001:982:1097:1::1:3> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:35:47] *** boubou <boubou!boubou@unaffiliated/boubou> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)[23:37:51] *** ghormoon <ghormoon!~ghormoon@ghorland.net> has joined #postfix[23:41:41] *** boubou <boubou!boubou@unaffiliated/boubou> has joined #postfix[23:52:27] *** Deathrattle <Deathrattle!~death@p200300868A0B96010000000000000001.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)