January 25, 2016 
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January 25, 2016 [00:04:20] *** DefunctProcessZZ has quit IRC[00:04:48] *** DefunctProcessZZ has joined #postfix[00:09:30] *** rcsu has quit IRC[00:13:41] *** setProfile has joined #postfix[00:23:22] *** ananayarora has quit IRC[00:25:18] <thumbs> rob0: stop hiring the TSA to review your emails![00:28:28] <MACscr> now that its 2016, are you guys pretty much blocking SPF failures no matter if they have a hard or soft fail designation?[00:32:00] *** sputnik has quit IRC[00:33:41] *** Tykling has quit IRC[00:34:41] *** vigilvindex_ has quit IRC[00:35:57] *** vigilvindex has joined #postfix[00:39:55] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[00:41:36] *** tree333 has quit IRC[00:41:50] <lunaphyte> heavens no[00:44:51] <jaybe> MACscr: each domain has the ability to state their position on mail sent on its behalf Iin terms of recommending pass or reject. Servers can choose to honor or not b[00:45:08] *** sputnik has joined #postfix[00:45:43] <MACscr> jaybe: i know how SPF's work, i was more just asking opinions on how people are honoring them[00:46:11] <jaybe> I respect the domain owner spf declaration.[00:46:17] <MACscr> lunaphyte: why so? im not saying requiring that they have one, but if they do have one, hard fail them[00:46:49] <jaybe> If example.com is -all and not coming through their declared servers, I reject.[00:47:30] <MACscr> i honestly dont even get why softfail is even an option[00:47:48] <MACscr> what benefit is it to the receiver?[00:48:02] <MACscr> i mean, it seems more lazy than anything[00:56:07] *** joules has joined #postfix[00:57:35] *** mungusta1 has quit IRC[00:59:40] *** mungustas has joined #postfix[01:09:46] *** sputnik has quit IRC[01:15:10] *** zerick has quit IRC[01:16:42] *** zerick has joined #postfix[01:17:23] *** sputnik has joined #postfix[01:17:32] *** tonythomas has quit IRC[01:22:40] *** zerick has quit IRC[01:24:31] *** zerick has joined #postfix[01:36:08] *** setProfile has quit IRC[01:42:10] *** bolt has quit IRC[01:42:15] *** rtail has quit IRC[02:05:05] *** setProfile has joined #postfix[02:23:43] *** jwing has joined #postfix[02:23:43] *** jwing has joined #postfix[02:34:15] *** tonil1 has quit IRC[02:39:45] *** tmberg has quit IRC[02:42:25] *** echan has quit IRC[03:05:26] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[03:09:45] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[03:12:00] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[03:15:16] *** michelangelo has quit IRC[03:17:39] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[03:18:15] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[03:20:43] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[03:22:43] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[03:24:10] *** err-or_ has joined #postfix[03:25:24] *** tree333 has joined #postfix[03:26:44] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[03:28:10] *** err-or has quit IRC[03:30:20] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[03:37:54] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[03:41:15] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[03:41:48] *** rijo has joined #postfix[03:42:44] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[03:43:36] *** echan has joined #postfix[03:45:06] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[03:45:38] *** wiza_ is now known as wiza[03:46:43] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[03:47:41] *** rijo has quit IRC[03:52:49] *** rijo79 has joined #postfix[03:56:40] <rijo79> Hey @ll[03:56:50] <thumbs> rijo79: all is not in today[03:57:41] <rijo79> I want to set up a mail server with postfix and postgresql on centos but postfix want to bring in mariadb-libs as dependency. Is it compatible with postgresql?[04:00:10] *** skyroveRR has joined #postfix[04:00:53] <skyroveRR> Is it typical for postfix compile to error out with "rpcsvc/ypclnt.h: No such file or directory" even when -DNO_NIS has been passed to it in the CCARGS variable during compile?[04:01:30] <pj> rijo79: what distro?[04:01:42] <pj> oh, you said, CentOS[04:01:50] <ek> rijo79: No. Postgres won't use any Maria libraries. That's just a poorly ported package. However, they are just libraries and it won't "hurt" anything to have them installed.[04:02:00] <pj> grab postfix3 from Ghettoforge, along with postfix3-pgsql[04:02:10] <pj> !tell rijo79 centos[04:02:10] <knoba> rijo79: "centos" : New postfix packages are available for all current versions of CentOS, RHEL, SL and other RHEL-derivatives from the GhettoForge gf-plus repository at www.ghettoforge.org.[04:02:26] <pj> The stock CentOS postfix does not have pgsql support[04:02:48] <rijo79> Kool. Thanks. :)[04:02:52] <pj> yw :-)[04:02:52] <ek> Sometimes, I literally face-palm when I see what people require for baseline builds of things...[04:03:12] <skyroveRR> In case anyone decides to see by build script and my compile log: http://pktsurf.in/files/postfix.sld.txt http://pktsurf.in/files/log.05.txt[04:03:43] <pj> ek: well, the issue is that until postfix 3.0 you had to either compile support in for a db and require the resulting libs or not. Red Hat chose to do so for MySQL and not support postgresql in thier postfix builds...[04:04:19] <pj> 3.0 added support for dynamic db support, though, so the GF builds use that to allow you to use whatever DBs you want and not have to require libs for everything under the sun.[04:04:49] <ek> pj: That just blows me away... Why not either not support DBs at all (and be unbiased) or, better yet, take the small amount of additional time to create packages for each major DB?[04:05:01] <ek> pj: Nice. That'll certainly help.[04:05:29] <pj> ek: before 3.0 I was building postfix for GF with support for every db and it pulled in a lot of extra libs, but my choice was to support everything.[04:05:42] <pj> now the situation is a lot better.[04:06:23] <ek> pj: It certainly seems that way. Will make the load lighter on the maintainers (of packages, at least).[04:06:56] <pj> ek: yes, expect CentOS 8 to work with the dynamic DB stuff with whatever version of postfix is in base for that.[04:06:57] <ek> I'm a BSD guy, so choosing whatever DB I want and compile time using the port works wonders for that stuff.[04:07:28] <ek> pj: That's assuming RHEL8 actually provides Postfix 3.0. :)[04:07:35] <ek> Could take *YEARS*.[04:07:50] <pj> ek: it will likely provide a newer version of Postfix, but the dynamic db support isn't going away.[04:08:01] <ek> Groovy.[04:08:19] <ek> I haven't poked at Postfix 3.0 yet. Will be interesting to see how that all works.[04:08:43] <pj> ek: debian has actually had it for some time as they've been patching it into postfix for years now. The 3.0 feature in postfix is based on the debian patches.[04:10:36] <ek> Ah. Sweet. Never used Debian as a mail server/relay before.[04:11:01] <thumbs> a bit of a nightmare[04:11:06] <thumbs> (from what I hear)[04:12:21] <ek> I would imagine.[04:12:38] <thumbs> patch city[04:13:11] <ek> I don't mind Debian/*ubuntu as a desktop, but I wouldn't really want to maintain any of the servers.[04:14:01] <thumbs> I hear their packages use silly config files, silly symlinks, and custom and useless defaults[04:14:39] <ek> thumbs: That's no lie at all.[04:14:58] <ek> And whatever they've done to NetworkManager is scary, to say the least.[04:15:12] <ek> Not to mention systemd... On a server? Nightmare![04:15:51] <thumbs> ek: CentOS 7 picked up systemd too, FWIW[04:16:08] <ek> thumbs: I know. :([04:16:24] <thumbs> ek: thankfully, 6.3 will remain supported for a while[04:16:39] <ek> Fortunately for me, everything I work/play with is BSD or CentOS/RHEL6.[04:16:45] <ek> thumbs: Indeed.[04:22:19] <thumbs> ek: and by then, there will be other non-systemd options, I'm sure[04:23:00] <ek> thumbs: I certainly hope so. If there were an option to choose to use systemd or not, that would be great.[04:23:32] <ek> I'm honestly stunned that so many mainstream Linux distributions jumped on systemd so quickly.[04:24:22] <thumbs> ek: I'll probably get shunned for this, but Slackware is another option[04:27:36] *** Gaius- has quit IRC[04:31:57] <pj> thumbs: CentOS 6.3 has not been supported for years. 6.7 is current.[04:32:28] <ek> thumbs: I like Slack! :)[04:32:43] <thumbs> pj: err, I meant 6.7[04:32:48] <ek> All CentOS 6.X is systemd-free.[04:33:01] <thumbs> pj: no idea why I wrote .3[04:33:02] <ek> And 6.7 will be supported for a while.[04:37:50] *** chachasmooth has quit IRC[04:38:46] *** chachasmooth has joined #postfix[04:41:38] <ek> Alright. New X-Files time! I'll catch you guys later. :P[04:46:39] <pj> 6 will be supported until 2020[04:52:19] *** rijo79 has quit IRC[04:53:58] *** rtail has joined #postfix[05:26:12] *** googlah__ has quit IRC[05:39:46] *** TheFatherMind has quit IRC[05:40:09] *** TheFatherMind has joined #postfix[05:40:10] *** namyzarc has quit IRC[06:15:58] *** rtail has quit IRC[06:17:31] *** rtail has joined #postfix[06:36:05] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[06:51:06] *** tonythomas has joined #postfix[06:52:50] <skyroveRR>[07:02:08] *** echan has quit IRC[07:21:30] *** echan has joined #postfix[07:28:19] *** rtail has quit IRC[07:28:58] *** Gaius has joined #postfix[07:44:16] *** higuita has quit IRC[07:50:04] *** ananayarora has joined #postfix[07:50:57] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[07:51:50] *** ananayarora has quit IRC[07:56:36] *** carl- has joined #postfix[08:07:53] *** googlah has joined #postfix[08:15:39] *** Motoko has quit IRC[08:36:38] *** bolt has joined #postfix[08:38:29] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[08:38:34] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[08:50:06] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[09:01:18] *** lrea has joined #postfix[09:02:39] *** PHPanos has joined #postfix[09:03:29] *** skylite has joined #postfix[09:06:03] *** PHPanos has quit IRC[09:09:09] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[09:24:40] *** _0x5eb_ has quit IRC[09:26:05] *** SCHAAP137 has joined #postfix[09:32:06] <skyroveRR> Hello[09:40:36] *** JanC has quit IRC[09:53:59] <jrj> hello. i want to implement protection from mailbox scanning or gathering. can someone tell possible ways?[09:54:44] <skyroveRR> I'm running a statically linked postfix version 2.10.9 on my raspberry pi with berkeley db enabled. I'm attempting to send an email to myself for test purposes using sendmail. After running sendmail, I get errors; the errors and the contents of some files, including my main postfix configuration file are in here: http://pktsurf.in/files/question.01.txt ... any ideas?[09:55:38] <skyroveRR> jrj "protection from mailbox scanning"? What do you mean exactly?[09:56:08] *** JanC has joined #postfix[09:56:17] <jrj> skylite, when some bad server try to find out all available mailboxes[09:56:36] <jrj> use different names in "RCPT TO" command[09:57:32] <skyroveRR> Just use restrictions.[09:57:32] <jrj> something like: tried to send mail to 3 unknown mailboxes - ban for 3 hours[09:58:50] <jrj> i configured them, but connection may be established from infected hosting server, which has all settings valid[09:59:01] <skyroveRR> Then use RBLs.[10:00:04] <skyroveRR> jrj check out "smtpd_client restrictions".[10:00:38] <jrj> for now i find some ways: rbl - not really want to use them, smtpd rate limits - not sure if it can help in this task[10:01:03] <skyroveRR> If you are just concerned about a bad client connection, I'd use RBLs and smtpd restrictions.[10:01:16] <skyroveRR> They are enough to keep them off, I guess.[10:01:18] <jrj> i used MDaemon. it has dynamic screening feature. i try to implement something like this[10:02:41] <jrj> as i see - there no standard way to block botnets, trying to collect valid emails?[10:03:01] <jrj> most mentioned - fail2ban[10:03:12] <jrj> but i wanted to ask firs[10:03:19] <jrj> * first[10:04:42] *** joules has quit IRC[10:04:44] <pj> I would recommend fail2ban for that, yes.[10:04:55] <jrj> i try to find something like this - http://www.altn.com/Support/KnowledgeBase/KnowledgeBaseResults/?Number=KBA-02625&utm_source=Collateral&utm_medium=PDF_US&utm_campaign=MD_EmailServerSettings_BestPractices[10:05:30] <pj> as for "standard" ways to block botnets, generally postscreen along with a few appropriate DNSRBLs is very good at blocking botnets...[10:05:33] <pj> !postscreen[10:05:34] <knoba> pj: "postscreen" : SMTP triage server available in Postfix 2.8, see http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html and http://www.postfix.org/postscreen.8.html[10:05:36] <pj> !cheatsheet[10:05:37] <knoba> pj: "cheatsheet" : (#1) http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control., or (#2) A postscreen cheatsheet can be seen at http://rob0.nodns4.us/postscreen.html (updated 2016-01-16, now requires Postfix 2.11+)[10:07:25] <skyroveRR> I'm running a statically linked postfix version 2.10.9 on my raspberry pi with berkeley db enabled. I'm attempting to send an email to myself for test purposes using sendmail. After running sendmail, I get errors. The errors and contents of some files, including my main postfix configuration file are in here: http://pktsurf.in/files/question.01.txt ... any ideas?[10:08:16] *** altinu is now known as altin[10:09:22] <pj> skyroveRR: you built postfix without hash support[10:09:25] <pj> it needs to be compiled in.[10:09:32] <skyroveRR> It does have hash support.[10:09:50] <skyroveRR> Please check out postconf -m output in that link. :)[10:10:57] <pj> well the postconf -m output is inconsistent with the log. You need to post to the postfix mailing list for help with this.[10:11:44] <pj> you will probably need to supply info about how postfix was built, etc, but you'll get help from weitse who will likely be able to tell you exactly what is happening.[10:12:49] <skyroveRR> let me post the build file that I used to compile postfix.[10:14:21] <skyroveRR> pj http://pktsurf.in/files/postfix.sld.01.txt[10:17:38] <pj> skyroveRR: it won't really help me, I'm not that good. As I said, ask on the ml[10:18:06] <skyroveRR> :|[10:18:10] <pj> ugh, that first comment might explain it all[10:18:28] <pj> you compiled half of it on one computer and half on another.[10:18:54] <skyroveRR> Um, no?[10:19:05] <pj> presumably if the necessary libs for hash support were on one and not on the other then it's perfectly possible that postconf might think there's hash support and cleanup doesn't.[10:20:01] *** depate has joined #postfix[10:20:02] <pj> oh, I see[10:20:06] <pj> it's not quite like that[10:20:17] <skyroveRR> Good hint. I'll recompile db48 and postfix again.[10:20:23] <skyroveRR> Not quite like what?[10:20:33] <pj> but I would say your manual steps left something out, something important for cleanup to know that there is hash support.[10:22:05] *** ananayarora has joined #postfix[10:22:36] <pj> that's the best I can say, for more help ask on the ml, but I can tell you that the answer you are likely to get is that you should do all the steps properly on arm, and if one of them fails then troubleshoot why it failed rather than try to do some steps on a different platform.[10:22:53] *** ananayarora has quit IRC[10:24:39] <pj> skyroveRR: oh, one more thing[10:25:36] <pj> rather than using the postfix-install command use "make install" instead.[10:25:45] <skyroveRR> Why?[10:25:57] <pj> I think the old postfix-install command is deprecated[10:26:08] <tuxick> never even hear of[10:28:05] <pj> it's now meant to be called from make install, not directly, iirc, but the INSTALL document definately says to use make install[10:31:49] *** depate has quit IRC[10:32:03] *** depate has joined #postfix[10:45:00] *** setProfile has quit IRC[10:48:09] *** depate has quit IRC[11:02:12] *** skyroveRR has quit IRC[11:07:34] *** mexx has joined #postfix[11:07:41] <mexx> Hi[11:09:12] <pj> !tell mexx welcome[11:09:12] <knoba> mexx: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![11:09:58] <mexx> I'm switching from postgrey/clamsmtpd/policy-spf to rmilter/rspamd but whenever I disable content_filter in main.cf, virtual hosting stops working, any idea why ?[11:15:14] <mexx> well juste because I didn't comment out receive_override_options[11:25:47] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[11:35:03] *** _0x5eb_ has joined #postfix[11:58:00] *** echan has quit IRC[12:17:14] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[12:37:32] *** tonythomas has quit IRC[12:41:39] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[12:43:08] *** Guest96536 has quit IRC[12:56:06] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[13:08:19] *** ananayarora has joined #postfix[13:15:35] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[13:18:28] *** edux has joined #postfix[13:20:24] *** zapata has quit IRC[13:30:14] *** altin has quit IRC[13:41:07] <mexx> bye[13:41:11] *** mexx has left #postfix[13:49:53] *** edux__ has joined #postfix[13:53:00] *** edux has quit IRC[13:56:11] *** zapata has joined #postfix[14:11:22] *** jwing has quit IRC[14:30:01] *** edux has joined #postfix[14:31:15] *** edux has quit IRC[14:32:19] *** edux has joined #postfix[14:33:10] *** edux__ has quit IRC[14:37:05] *** Kellin has quit IRC[14:42:32] *** gamba47 has joined #postfix[14:43:54] *** gamba47_ has quit IRC[14:44:29] <rob0> jimpop, ping. YGM re: DANE/TLSA. For those who were playing along at home: jimpop's server had mail for me which it (being DANE-enabled) was unable to deliver because of my broken TLSA records (pointing to the old, replaced certificate.)[14:45:21] <rob0> Initially I just removed the TLSA records, but since I have learned how to generate them, https://www.huque.com/bin/gen_tlsa[14:46:22] <rob0> New TLSA records pointing to the new cert are now in place, and no longer is all rotten in Denmark. I hope. :)[14:46:52] <thumbs> man, Fleurety is really flapping around[14:51:54] <Nit_> rob0: on debian based system, the package hash-slinger give the program /usr/bin/tlsa, for example tlsa --certificate cert.pem --usage 3 --selector 0 --mtype 2 --port 25 example.net will output _25._tcp.example.net. IN TLSA 3 0 2 065005ae9fa8762b15277ec34f051312c5b2e4c325a4c3d2856ffb18d9d8009a05e6025862fa7d851713acd8b4f6caeb7226b7bb3937fe7012e6651ef631fddb[14:52:36] <Nit_> man tlsa give descriptions for usage, selector, matching type, etc…[14:55:56] *** sphenxes02 has joined #postfix[14:58:46] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[14:59:48] *** sphenxes01 has quit IRC[14:59:48] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[15:00:05] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[15:02:40] *** synthroid has joined #postfix[15:12:16] *** sawtooth has quit IRC[15:15:41] *** FinboySlick has joined #postfix[15:15:43] <rob0> Nit_, right, the blog post described all that too. If you'd like to help test with an email from a DANE-enabled MTA, it's my nick @ nodns4.us, thanks.[15:17:57] *** Chill_Surf has joined #postfix[15:20:24] <Nit_> rob0: sent with success[15:26:06] *** acosonic has quit IRC[15:26:50] *** MACscr has quit IRC[15:32:11] <rob0> thanks[15:33:17] *** gongoputch has joined #postfix[15:34:51] <ws2k3> am i allowed to ask a question here? its about courier i use courier + postfix and in the courier channel nobody responds?[15:37:03] <ws2k3> i am trying to reset a mailbox cause the mailbox is totaly unresponsive i cant delete nor recieve email i already tryed to delete evrything in the cur and the new folder(email is not important i just want the mailbox to work again) but its still not responding[15:37:36] <tuxick> that sounds like nfs[15:37:57] <ws2k3> tuxick mail is stored localy so no nfs is used at all[15:38:14] <tuxick> oh[15:38:24] <tuxick> well, a broken filesystem then[15:39:02] <ws2k3> hmm. i got zero errors on my filesystem or disk and the other mailboxes on the same machine are working just fine[15:39:24] <ws2k3> i also already tryed to restart postfix and courrier and try to delete them again no result[15:39:32] <tuxick> very strange[15:39:41] <ws2k3> tuxick jup i never seen this before[15:39:44] * tuxick blames putin[15:47:06] <ws2k3> tuxick lol i recreated the mailbox and still not working[15:49:17] *** higuita has joined #postfix[15:54:59] *** ananayarora has quit IRC[15:57:28] *** ananayarora has joined #postfix[16:02:36] *** sawtooth has joined #postfix[16:04:21] *** sawtooth has quit IRC[16:04:43] *** sawtooth has joined #postfix[16:04:45] <jimpop> rob0: pong. Glad it's all working once again. I loath the day I forget to do the same, and I'm sure it will happen despite my copious notes and calendar reminders. :-)[16:07:56] <rob0> did your queue for me clear up?[16:08:09] <rob0> I'm supposing it must have.[16:10:08] <jimpop> yep, yesterday[16:11:15] <rob0> I think it's cool, though, that the TLSA mismatch caused a deferral, no fallback to plaintext![16:11:30] <rob0> DANE++[16:11:56] <jimpop> good point. I just wish the logged error made it obvious as to why it was deferred[16:12:15] <rob0> yes, that was not ideal, maybe I will post about it[16:12:58] <jimpop> rob0: please do.[16:26:03] *** pti-jean_ has joined #postfix[16:34:35] *** phreebird has quit IRC[16:37:09] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[16:38:43] *** skylite has quit IRC[16:43:13] *** ananayarora has quit IRC[16:45:14] *** Jonukas has joined #postfix[16:57:53] *** ntnlzr|out is now known as ntnlzr[17:00:04] *** phreebird has quit IRC[17:01:14] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[17:05:06] *** carl- has quit IRC[17:10:58] *** ananayarora has joined #postfix[17:11:44] *** ananayarora has quit IRC[17:16:52] *** DefunctProcessZZ is now known as DefunctProcess[17:17:51] *** phreebird has quit IRC[17:19:16] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[17:22:28] *** lrea has left #postfix[17:25:37] *** _UsUrPeR_ has joined #postfix[17:26:06] <_UsUrPeR_> !getting_help[17:26:06] <knoba> _UsUrPeR_: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[17:26:17] <_UsUrPeR_> !showconfig[17:26:17] <knoba> _UsUrPeR_: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[17:27:55] *** tonythomas has joined #postfix[17:29:09] *** dimitry7 has joined #postfix[17:29:48] <dimitry7> Hi guys, my server was working fine, then suddently got this error: (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024: Connection refused)[17:29:52] <dimitry7> wha'ts wrong?[17:30:28] *** camroncade has joined #postfix[17:30:41] <thumbs> dimitry7: whatever was running on that port isn't running.[17:30:42] * rob0 looks into his crystal ball for dimitry7 ... it's foggy ... no, it's becoming clear ...[17:31:19] <rob0> dimitry7 has a "content_filter = 127.0.0.1:10024" setting. That filter is not running.[17:31:22] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[17:32:10] *** phreebird has quit IRC[17:33:03] <rob0> content_filter = smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10024[17:33:19] <dimitry7> rob0, really?[17:33:22] <dimitry7> ok let me check[17:33:35] <rob0> no! You must not check!![17:33:58] *** Fleurety_ has joined #postfix[17:34:00] <dimitry7> I have this: postfix/main.cf:151:content_filter=amavisfeed:[127.0.0.1]:10024[17:34:01] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[17:34:38] <rob0> Talk to whoever runs 127.0.0.1 and ask him/her to fix it.[17:34:45] *** wxl has quit IRC[17:34:45] *** wxl has joined #postfix[17:35:43] <dimitry7> rob0, ok but that config is ok?[17:36:44] <rob0> Apparently not, if the filter software is not running or is not accepting connections.[17:37:00] * _UsUrPeR_ gets in line behind dimitry7[17:37:08] <rob0> Otherwise it might be okay. My crystal ball is not that good.[17:37:56] <dimitry7> rob0, Crystal ball hahaha... ok ok, I'll see who the hell installed something there.[17:38:43] *** ananayarora has joined #postfix[17:40:22] <_UsUrPeR_> Hey all. I'm trying to create a send-only SMTP server which will be utilized by vCenter to alert administrators to problems on the cluster. I feel like postfix was the right idea, but am unsure now. It seems like a lot of tutorials out there assume that I would be using postfix as a passthrough to use gmail, which is not the case.[17:40:55] <rob0> !tell _UsUrPeR_ nullclient[17:40:55] <knoba> _UsUrPeR_: "nullclient" : a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.[17:41:01] <rob0> !tell _UsUrPeR_ nullclient_software[17:41:01] <knoba> _UsUrPeR_: "nullclient_software" : a program that serves as a drop in replacement for /usr/sbin/sendmail and provides a simple means to submit messages to an existing msa without the need to install and maintain a full-blown mta/msa. examples include msmtp, esmtp, ssmtp and nullmailer. also see !msa[17:41:19] <rob0> A lot of tutorials out there are utterly clueless.[17:42:00] <_UsUrPeR_> I have noticed that fact. I'll check out sendmail. Thanks so much, I appreciate it.[17:42:17] <rob0> sendmail?[17:42:30] <tuxick> heh[17:42:38] <_UsUrPeR_> wut[17:42:43] *** Fleurety_ has joined #postfix[17:42:52] *** synthroid has quit IRC[17:43:12] <_UsUrPeR_> err sorry, msmtp, esmtp, ssmtp etc[17:43:18] <_UsUrPeR_> !msa[17:43:18] <knoba> _UsUrPeR_: "msa" : Message Submission Agent : a process which accepts message submissions from MUAs on port 587 known as 'message submission service' using the 'message submission protocol' defined by rfc4409. To enable message submission service in postfix uncomment the relevant lines in master.cf. also see !submission.[17:44:12] *** frank-- has joined #postfix[17:44:32] *** thumbs has quit IRC[17:44:33] *** frank-- is now known as thumbs[17:44:46] *** gabizou- has quit IRC[17:44:53] *** gabizou has joined #postfix[17:45:27] *** Fleurety_ has quit IRC[17:47:01] <rob0> You meantioned gmail, and they do run a MSA farm for users.[17:47:35] *** Fleurety has joined #postfix[17:49:19] <_UsUrPeR_> Yeah, I know, but I don't want to rely on an external service or Internet connectivity in order to receive alerts.[17:49:25] *** phreebird has quit IRC[17:49:33] *** SCHAAP137 has quit IRC[17:49:48] <_UsUrPeR_> That is to say, it would be preferred to keep any alerts on the internal network[17:50:08] <_UsUrPeR_> rob0 ^[17:50:27] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[17:51:27] <rob0> and your email is at gmail? How could you possibly send to gmail without an Internet connection?[17:53:32] <_UsUrPeR_> My email is not gmail. This is embarrassing to admit, but the business entity I work for utilizes Novell GroupWise hosted internally.[17:54:48] <rob0> so use that, not gmail[17:55:39] *** phreebird has quit IRC[17:55:47] <_UsUrPeR_> Right, therein lies the issue: I would prefer not to engage the silo responsible for the email servers. They are notably unresponsive.[17:56:50] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[17:57:10] <_UsUrPeR_> I understand what you are saying though: why recreate something which already exists. Typically, I would take that route, but I feel like it's definitely more complicated to create change request forms and wait for a response compared to simply sending email from a server I create on the internal network[17:58:12] <patdk-wk> heh?[17:58:20] <patdk-wk> one way or another you must deliever the email to those servers[17:58:25] <patdk-wk> if you go creating your own[17:58:37] <patdk-wk> you will not pass any spf/dkim/spoofing checks they have in place[17:58:43] <patdk-wk> and therefore be back to the same problem again[17:58:45] <patdk-wk> solve it correctly[17:58:49] <patdk-wk> if they manage your email systems[17:58:52] <patdk-wk> you MUST work with them[17:58:57] <patdk-wk> working around them, is asking to fail[17:59:33] <_UsUrPeR_> Humm. I see what you are saying. Do you have a moment for me to ask a few questions?[17:59:42] <patdk-wk> !ask[17:59:43] <knoba> patdk-wk: "ask" : Please regard http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc and don't ask to ask, just ask. (after you've read 'getting help')[17:59:58] <_UsUrPeR_> As we are talking, I am coming to the realization that I am wholly unfamiliar with email as a whole[18:00:03] <rob0> If you need to set up a complete mail server, that can be done.[18:00:24] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[18:00:27] <rob0> Lose the tutorials and yes, gain more familiarity with the components of email.[18:01:31] <rob0> A simple local delivery (deliver to system users) server is pretty easy,[18:01:33] <rob0> !basic[18:01:34] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[18:02:09] <rob0> You don't even need IMAP if you have some other means of reading your mail (such as alpine or mutt on the console/ssh.)[18:03:25] <dimitry7> rob0, it turns out there's a problem with memory[18:03:38] <dimitry7> I've upgraded it now.[18:03:40] <_UsUrPeR_> Well alrighty then! Thanks for your help everyone. I may return.[18:03:44] <rob0> oh, I forgot about memory[18:04:03] <rob0> so I too have memory problems[18:04:04] * patdk-wk has no short term memory[18:04:23] <dimitry7> rob0, :S, it makes everything crash[18:04:29] <dimitry7> even ssh[18:04:38] <rob0> crassh[18:04:46] <dimitry7> haha right[18:04:50] <patdk-wk> if oops kills ssh, heh, you must have NO memory, or is that non-ecc memory?[18:06:55] *** lucascastro has quit IRC[18:07:08] <dimitry7> rob0, done! as soon as I did postsuper -r ALL. All messages got delivered: dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1453741589 s5si25237836qhc.29 - gsmtp)[18:07:16] <dimitry7> thanks Rob!![18:08:23] <rob0> yw![18:14:09] *** MACscr has joined #postfix[18:14:35] *** MACscr has joined #postfix[18:14:59] *** MACscr has joined #postfix[18:15:03] *** MACscr has quit IRC[18:21:34] *** ananayarora has quit IRC[18:23:09] *** ananayarora has joined #postfix[18:23:48] *** _UsUrPeR_ has quit IRC[18:25:59] *** synthroid has joined #postfix[18:26:38] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[18:30:00] *** lucascastro has joined #postfix[18:31:52] *** ananayar_ has joined #postfix[18:32:15] *** ananayarora has quit IRC[18:32:30] *** rcsu_ has joined #postfix[18:36:40] *** ananayar_ has left #postfix[18:39:17] *** phreebird has quit IRC[18:40:19] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[18:41:05] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[18:45:59] *** phreebird has quit IRC[18:47:25] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[18:49:53] *** v1c3 has quit IRC[18:50:29] *** tonil has joined #postfix[18:52:12] *** jad_jay_ has quit IRC[18:58:49] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[19:04:25] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[19:04:39] *** edux has quit IRC[19:04:59] *** edux has joined #postfix[19:06:02] *** Nit_ has quit IRC[19:06:19] *** Nit_ has joined #postfix[19:11:05] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:11:14] *** heroux has quit IRC[19:12:06] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[19:14:54] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:17:12] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[19:23:52] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:24:53] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[19:25:05] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:26:24] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[19:29:49] *** heroux has joined #postfix[19:35:07] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:35:13] *** pankid has quit IRC[19:35:16] *** heroux_ has joined #postfix[19:35:30] *** echan has joined #postfix[19:35:42] *** pankid has joined #postfix[19:36:12] *** heroux has quit IRC[19:36:19] *** heroux_ is now known as heroux[19:37:52] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[19:39:16] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:40:09] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[19:40:27] *** thomas has quit IRC[19:44:06] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:45:45] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[19:48:27] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:48:57] *** thomas has joined #postfix[19:49:26] *** phreebird has joined #postfix[19:50:44] *** phreebird has quit IRC[19:56:37] *** Section1 has quit IRC[20:26:29] *** rcsu_ has quit IRC[20:26:50] *** rcsu has joined #postfix[20:32:18] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[20:49:54] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[21:02:17] *** micah has joined #postfix[21:11:31] *** nyloc has quit IRC[21:15:22] *** nyloc has joined #postfix[21:41:41] *** lucascastro has quit IRC[21:43:25] *** Amkei has joined #postfix[21:52:17] *** moss is now known as nesta[21:52:20] *** nesta is now known as moss[21:58:42] *** tuxick has quit IRC[21:59:34] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[22:01:22] *** Tuxick has joined #postfix[22:18:11] *** echan has quit IRC[22:32:01] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[22:51:53] *** synthroid has quit IRC[23:05:24] *** JanC has quit IRC[23:08:10] *** FinboySlick has quit IRC[23:08:41] *** Jonukas has quit IRC[23:09:32] *** tonil has quit IRC[23:13:27] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[23:13:42] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[23:20:05] *** JanC has joined #postfix[23:22:00] *** moss has quit IRC[23:47:39] *** Amkei has quit IRC[23:51:43] *** echan has joined #postfix[23:52:09] *** equilibriumuk has quit IRC[23:53:56] *** equilibriumuk has joined #postfix[23:54:17] *** edux has quit IRC[23:54:39] *** edux has joined #postfix[23:54:54] *** rsx has joined #postfix[23:56:04] *** edux__ has joined #postfix[23:59:12] *** edux has quit IRC