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[00:58:59] <aegis-> Hi all!  Can anyone recommend a good "How to" page for a Debian Wheezy postfix + dovecot + ssl + virtual users setup?  I know that's asking a lot...  Also want to eventually run a spam detection service as well.  I've tried setting up a few in the past but end up finding out the instructions are outdated and/or they use deprecated software.
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[01:00:49] <jaybe> aegis-, guides/tutorials ultimately suck and are misleading and dumb you down. however, in combination with learning and documentation/manual, it may be helpful.  consider checking out workaround.org for some info.
[01:00:55] <jaybe> !tutorial
[01:00:56] <knoba> jaybe: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
[01:01:27] <jaybe> aegis-, for spam prevention, begin by learning about, and employing:  POSTSCREEN
[01:01:30] <jaybe> !postscreen
[01:01:30] <knoba> jaybe: "postscreen" : SMTP triage server available in Postfix 2.8, see http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html and http://www.postfix.org/postscreen.8.html
[01:02:00] <aegis-> thanks jaybe ...  I will check those out.
[01:02:05] <jaybe> welcome
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[02:20:34] <DarwinElf> !relevant_logs
[02:20:34] <knoba> DarwinElf: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.
[02:20:38] <DarwinElf> !showconfig
[02:20:38] <knoba> DarwinElf: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
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[03:07:18] <DarwinElf> I moved my site to a professional server, went through setup again but also tried to copy some files over (like certificates, because it still has the same domain name)... but apparnently I've made some mistakes, and don't know what to do next. Here are my configuration ( https://dpaste.de/86S5 ) and log ( https://dpaste.de/gb5a ... maillog... no mail activity in syslog this time either)
[03:07:27] <DarwinElf> 'apparently'
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[03:28:20] <pj> DarwinElf: it's an issue with dovecot SASL, you need to ask for help in #dovecot.
[03:28:30] <DarwinElf> ok
[03:28:53] <pj> postfix is communicating with dovecot just fine, dovecot is having problems with the DB query.
[03:32:38] <DarwinElf> I think I found the configuration error
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[03:41:22] <DarwinElf> yeah, I fixed that at least but have to see why either Postfix or Dovecot didn't deliver the mail, but I have to work outside so will BBL
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[04:07:08] <DarwinElf> I'm back, and here's a log I'm wondering about: https://dpaste.de/kKwb
[04:08:32] <DarwinElf> Dovecot & Postfix aren't starting with errors anymore, but aren't delivering mail... and that log is mostly Postfix
[04:08:48] <rob0> you should set this to prevent mail loss while fixing things:
[04:08:53] <rob0> !soft_bounce
[04:08:53] <knoba> rob0: "soft_bounce" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently, by changing 5xx reply codes into 4xx. However, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.
[04:09:14] <DarwinElf> thanks
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[04:09:55] <rob0> too late now, for those
[04:10:06] <DarwinElf> :(  So why is it not default?
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[04:10:46] <rob0> it's only supposed to be used while testing & making changes, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.
[04:11:46] <rob0> Seems like the Dovecot userdb lookup is failing for these.
[04:12:36] <DarwinElf> I guess I have to enter every single email address then; like /etc/aliases won't work
[04:13:04] <DarwinElf> I sent one from GMail to user d, which exists but I didn't get the mail
[04:13:25] <DarwinElf> the log says status=sent on that one
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[04:18:24] <rob0> Dovecot does not refer to /etc/aliases
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[04:21:24] <DarwinElf> oh, but I see it's mentioned in Postfix's main.cf
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[04:28:44] <DarwinElf> why wouldn't mail get delivered if it says status=sent?
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[05:23:35] <jaybe> DarwinElf, are you asking,   why wouldn't mail get delivered to a destination [elsewhere on the internet] that i sent it to,  ?
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[05:24:07] <DarwinElf> no, it was from the log... but I found out, and it's a Dovecot program
[05:24:18] <thumbs> yes, he has a #dovecot issue.
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[05:41:43] <DarwinElf> I meant 'problem'
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[05:41:56] <DarwinElf> anyway, I found that one out
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[05:55:36] <DarwinElf> thanks for making postfix
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[07:25:08] <DarwinElf> my server works to send mail to system users (also remotely)... but I'm getting errors trying to send mail remotely as one of those users. Here's my log of one mail: https://dpaste.de/FJ0r , and configuration: https://dpaste.de/FSZS
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[11:01:16] <ananayarora> Hi, how can I do this for Postfix? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BounceHandler#Adding_bouncehandler_router_and_transport_to_your_exim_configuration
[11:01:41] <ananayarora> The documentation is for Exim, and I need to do this for Postfix.
[11:02:46] <pj> ananayarora: read this...
[11:02:50] <pj> !verp
[11:02:51] <knoba> pj: "verp" : http://www.postfix.org/VERP_README.html
[11:03:08] <pj> that should get you started at least.
[11:07:11] <ananayarora> pj: We have MediaWiki generating the VERP Address
[11:08:53] <pj> ananayarora: yes, I understand that, that README is for VERP handling in postfix in general, it doesn't just address the generating of the address.
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[11:10:23] <ananayarora> pj: Okay. But what I'm just trying to do here is that I need to send all bounced emails to a PHP API. Can you give me the exact configuration for that?
[11:11:09] <pj> ananayarora: you'd just use a pipe(8) transport to call up the PHP script from the bounce address...
[11:11:12] <pj> !pipe
[11:11:12] <knoba> pj: "pipe" : the pipe(8) daemon processes requests from the postfix queue manager to deliver messages to external commands. this program expects to be run from the master(8) process manager
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[11:11:58] <pj> you would use a transport map for that.
[11:12:07] <pj> alternatively you can use local delivery to a pipe.
[11:12:23] <pj> !transport_maps
[11:12:23] <knoba> pj: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.
[11:12:33] <pj> !alias_maps
[11:12:34] <knoba> pj: "alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The alias databases that are used for local(8) delivery. See aliases(5) for syntax details.
[11:12:47] <ananayarora> Thank you @pj! :D
[11:13:12] <pj> at any rate, postfix can handle the verp delimiters so it knows to deliver the bounces to that transport even though the extension differs.
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[11:49:00] <ananayarora> !welcome
[11:49:00] <knoba> ananayarora: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck!
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[19:39:59] <aegis-> Does anyone still use PostfixAdmin?  It appears the latest release is from 2009.
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[20:32:33] <jaybe> didn't use it before either
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[20:41:59] <jaybe> lunaphyte, in follow up, re: vps/hosting;  been working with an atlantic vps with bsd; extremely responsive, performant. going to put some load on it and feel it out. at this point, it's outperforming others i have/use/used with clear distance.
[20:42:02] <jaybe> (at this point)
[20:45:54] <lunaphyte> aegis-: ask in #postfixadmin.  those interested in the topic will be in there [or can join]
[20:46:11] <lunaphyte> jaybe: cool, that's good to hear
[20:46:25] <jaybe> thanks for the discussion and reference
[20:46:53] <lunaphyte> sure thing
[20:46:57] <jaybe> i've been meaning to dig in to mailman 3 and this is a good opportunity
[20:47:10] <jaybe> get that done while kicking the atlantic tires
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[23:34:11] <grantwu> !showconfig
[23:34:12] <knoba> grantwu: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
[23:34:39] <grantwu> argh
[23:34:58] <grantwu> How do I find my postfix version
[23:35:23] <grantwu> Oh dear I have 2.7.1
[23:35:40] <grantwu> !showconfig_old
[23:35:41] <knoba> grantwu: "showconfig_old" : for versions of postfix < 2.9, pastebin postconf -n and the contents of master.cf with comments removed
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