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[00:34:27] <tharkun> pj, lunaphyte : Thanks for the info on the vps ran out of battery last night and had a Heck of a Day at $DAYJOB.
[00:37:33] <lunaphyte> i run out of battery sometimes too. food and sleep helps
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[00:57:42] <rob0> Or, time in jail, if you're charged with battery.
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[01:00:16] <Salt> any help would be greatly appreciated
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[01:04:42] <rob0> Why are you converting? Even if you do convert, you should keep your lists subdomain as handled by local(8), so Mailman will Just Work.
[01:06:13] <Salt> rob0, converting so we can have non-system imap accounts through dovecot
[01:06:48] <Salt> and if that is possible, it would be fine, but I thought I'd tried that combo, moment as I revert a few things
[01:07:27] <rob0> sure, you can do a pipe(8) if you're a glutton for punishment
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[01:12:41] <tharkun> Has anyone tried lates version in something under 1Gb. I'm trying to shovel 100 users into 512Mb with dovecot and amavis. Am I just too optimistic or some serious hacking is needed?
[01:18:09] <Salt> rob0, I think that worked...
[01:18:24] <Salt> so many hours o_O
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[01:36:48] <MichaelRpdx> A spammer has found a vulnerability in an web app on my system. I'd like to not allow any mail to leave the system if uid=33 and from != www-data. How might that be accomplished?
[01:37:11] <lunaphyte> !tell MichaelRpdx authorized_submit_users
[01:37:12] <knoba> MichaelRpdx: "authorized_submit_users" : List of users who are authorized to submit mail with the sendmail(1) command (and with the privileged postdrop(1) helper command).
[01:37:32] <lunaphyte> however, you should be solving the real problem
[01:38:02] <lunaphyte> it's 2016. sendmail(1) submission is just not the right way to do things any more
[01:38:12] <MichaelRpdx> I'm needing to kill the outgoing spam while I find and fix the web vulnerability.
[01:38:54] <MichaelRpdx> I can correlate mail times to web page access times to lead me to the vulnerability.
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[01:39:07] <MichaelRpdx> knoba, thank you.
[01:39:12] <lunaphyte> uid 33 is presumably your http service?
[01:39:38] <MichaelRpdx> yes uid 33 is http, that's how I know it's a web hole.
[01:42:16] <lunaphyte> restricting the sender to www-data is not really practical in that case
[01:44:41] <rob0> "www-data" is the compromised user, so this plan won't work
[01:45:21] * thumbs blames php for not using submission
[01:48:37] <MichaelRpdx> but what ever they do the from is another name. hence I'm looking for the uid=33 and from != www-data
[01:49:20] <thumbs> kill the vhost that spams until you fix the php causing the spam.
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[01:55:55] <rob0> You probably mean the "From:" header, which may or may not be the envelope sender. In any case, no, sendmail(1) is not capable of content filtering on its own. You might, however, be able to write a simple milter to do this.
[01:56:04] <rob0> !non_smtpd_milters
[01:56:04] <knoba> rob0: "non_smtpd_milters" : a list of milter (mail filter) applications for new mail that does not arrive via the postfix smtpd(8) server. this includes local submission via the sendmail(1) command line, new mail that arrives via the postfix qmqpd(8) server, and old mail that is re-injected into the queue with postsuper -r . specify space or comma as separator. see the milter_readme document for details
[01:56:10] <rob0> !milter
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[02:24:19] <MichaelRpdx> well this is fun, problem persists after implementing authorized_submit_users. I have a long night ahead.
[02:24:46] <rob0> yes, www-data is the USER
[02:25:23] <lunaphyte> you're at a disadvantage if you're not proficient in the details of how email works
[02:25:46] <rob0> The suggestion is to block ALL users from sendmail, then reconfigure your php to use SMTP and submission.
[02:25:59] <lunaphyte> indeed
[02:26:08] <rob0> 00:44 < rob0> "www-data" is the compromised user, so this plan won't work
[02:26:51] <rob0> And truly, fix the php vulnerability.
[02:30:53] <thumbs> < thumbs> kill the vhost that spams until you fix the php causing the spam.
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[02:36:58] <MichaelRpdx> killed all web services, adding back one by one until I find the nasty.
[02:37:26] <tharkun> Disable sendmail first or do a simlink to a logger and bingo.
[02:37:45] * tharkun hates php
[02:37:50] <lunaphyte> or just queue everything and inspect messages with postcat
[02:38:03] <tharkun> Best option ^^
[02:39:02] <tharkun> lunaphyte: I was looking vor lovevps and I couldn't find them. You were a customer of them. Weren't you?
[02:39:13] <lunaphyte> yeah. they're gone, sadly
[02:39:34] <tharkun> Sad to hear it.
[02:39:53] <lunaphyte> yp, it was too bad
[02:39:57] <lunaphyte> *yup
[02:40:16] <lunaphyte> they were really good guys who worked their fingers to the bone
[02:40:42] <tharkun> There was this mtr* mr* something that even had a channel here on freenode, yet I am unable to recall the full name of them.
[02:41:01] <lunaphyte> i think it just got to be to much for them, so they made an effort to transition things to another party, but it didn't work out
[02:41:33] <lunaphyte> you're not thinking of prgmr are you?
[02:43:32] <tharkun> Yes, precisely I've been trying for 2 days to recall the name ;P
[02:43:50] <tharkun> Partying for so long is not good for memory ;P
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[02:47:25] <MichaelRpdx> lunaphyte "just queue everthing" ??
[02:48:08] <tharkun> They had a $5.00 usd instance that was unique to them. It is now common practice. To have one of those as an xsmall size ;P
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[03:49:05] <lunaphyte> !tell MichaelRpdx defer_transports
[03:49:05] <knoba> MichaelRpdx: "defer_transports" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The names of message delivery transports that should not be delivered to unless someone issues "sendmail -q" or equivalent. Specify zero or more names of mail delivery transports names that appear in the first field of master.cf).
[03:49:17] <lunaphyte> set defer_transports = smtp
[03:49:29] <lunaphyte> and then test it, because that is just off of the top of my head
[03:49:58] <MichaelRpdx> lunaphyte thank you.
[03:50:15] <lunaphyte> tharkun: i like prgmr's philosophy and their ideals/values, but they only offer xen, which i'm not a huge fan of
[03:50:27] <MichaelRpdx> All, an unpatched WordPress instance seems to be the culprit.
[03:50:53] <lunaphyte> wordpress needs particularly attentive care, yes
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[03:52:24] <lunaphyte> it gets a bad rap, but as long as you stay up to date, and don't let it languish, it's generally fine
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[04:02:27] <MichaelRpdx> it doesn't mix well with an overwhelming day job work load. :) Still, first problem in a decade or so.
[04:03:18] <thumbs> wordpress needs nearly daily attention
[04:03:42] <lunaphyte> yeah
[04:04:07] <thumbs> I'm serious.
[04:04:14] <lunaphyte> yi know
[04:04:16] <lunaphyte> *i
[04:04:24] <thumbs> it was more for MichaelRpdx than lunaphyte
[04:04:59] <lunaphyte> well, i wrote it down anyway
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[04:15:19] <MichaelRpdx> I hear ya, I hear ya.
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[09:21:20] <jrj> hello. i want to split mail traffic between two servers. don't know what to ask from google. can someone help?
[09:21:46] <jrj> i moving mail server from one to postfix.
[09:22:53] <jrj> i want to redirect particular mailboxes. all mailboxes in same domain
[09:25:10] <Zerberus> !transport
[09:25:10]
<knoba> Zerberus: "transport" : transport(5) The optional transport(5) table specifies a mapping from email addresses to message delivery transports and next- hop destinations. Look at: http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html
[09:25:51] <jrj> something like:
[09:25:51] <jrj> user1 at mydomain dot com -> 192.168.100.100
[09:25:51] <jrj> user2 at mydomain dot com -> 192.168.200.200
[09:26:33] <Zerberus> look up the proper syntax
[09:38:30] <jrj> Zerberus, if i get it right - i need something like:
[09:38:30] <jrj> user1 at mydomain dot com smtp:[192.168.100.100]
[09:38:30] <jrj> user1 at mydomain dot com smtp:[192.168.200.200]
[09:38:35] <jrj> arghhhh
[09:38:52] <jrj> second line - user2 at mydomain dot com smtp:[192.168.200.200]
[09:42:26] <jrj> am i right?
[09:43:18] <jrj> in transport manual not enough examples for me =(
[09:46:39] <jrj> inet
[09:46:40] <jrj> |
[09:46:40] <jrj> gateway(postfix)
[09:46:40] <jrj> / \
[09:46:40] <jrj> user1 at dom dot com user2 at dom dot com
[09:46:40] <jrj> (not yet moved) (already moved mailbox)
[09:46:42] <jrj> / \
[09:46:46] <jrj> 192.168.100.100 192.168.200.200
[09:46:48] <jrj> (old server) (new server)
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[10:13:58] <vvassilev> Hi all, my server hostname is XYZ, I want my postfix to send the mails from XYZ.cloud.example.com. Can this be done by configuration of postfix itself or I have to change my hostnames etc..
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[10:15:12] <jrj> vvassilev, set this value in postfix config, make dns records - thats all
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[10:16:41] <rob0> Normally a sender address is set by the MUA. Postfix is not sending mail, users are. Postfix is the transport agent.
[10:17:48] <vvassilev> rob0: yes, I have a logwatch service which sends the mail from the root user and (I believe) postfix adds the hostname as a suffix.
[10:18:09] <rob0> see:
[10:18:12] <rob0> !basic
[10:18:31] <rob0> and your logwatch documentation (how does it send the mail?)
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[10:23:15] <vvassilev> rob0: thanks will do.
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[10:24:07] <jrj> i think mail is sended over local mail program or some analog
[10:24:47] <superlinux> hi. opendkim-test is still gives me that the key I use is insecure though it's working OK. so how can I increase its security?
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[10:49:04] <superlinux> repeating..
[10:49:06] <superlinux> hi. opendkim-test is still gives me that the key I use is insecure though it's working OK. so how can I increase its security?
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[11:21:39] <superlinux> !spf
[11:21:40]
<knoba> superlinux: "spf" : sender policy framework - an extension to SMTP that allows to identify and reject emails from spoofed/forged email senders. SPF is just a TXT or SPF record in your DNS zone in a special format. See: http://www.openspf.net/
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[11:25:05] <superlinux> !dkim
[11:25:05] <knoba> superlinux: "dkim" : DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) is a method for email authentication that allows an organization to take responsibility for a message in a way that can be validated by a recipient. this is typically implemented in postfix by means of a milter such as !opendkim. alternatively, existing content filters (e.g. !amavisd-new) may also have their own implementation mechanism.
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[11:53:22] <jrj> Zerberus, thanks for help. tested different transports with emails (not domains) - it worked fine.
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[11:58:37] <Zerberus> jrj: great
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[17:48:09] <arcanine> !getting_help
[17:48:10] <knoba> arcanine: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
[17:48:22] <arcanine> !relevant_logs
[17:48:23] <knoba> arcanine: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.
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[23:42:02] <dimitry7> Hello guys, I am getting this error:
[23:42:11] <dimitry7> Jan 15 16:40:17 localhost spamc[1622]: connect to spamd on 127.0.0.1 failed, retrying (#1 of 3): Connection refused
[23:44:21] <dimitry7> oh the service wasn't started hehe, thanks
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[23:55:00] <CRCinAU> pj: so I thought it'd be interesting to show my postscreen stats....
[23:55:23] <CRCinAU> in ONE day:
[23:55:25] <CRCinAU> 262 Delivered
[23:55:36] <CRCinAU> 6017 Postscreen