January 2, 2016 
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January 2, 2016 [00:00:52] *** MacWinner has quit IRC[00:01:53] *** rsx has quit IRC[00:12:38] *** viderizer has joined #postfix[00:16:56] <lunaphyte> the sensible default is to require complete, valid email addresses, rather than accepting incomplete envelopes and then trying to clean up the mess afterwards. this is a non issue in today's world. configure the client properly.[00:17:08] <viderizer> why is localhost.$mydomain included as a default for mydestinations?[00:18:36] <lunaphyte> viderizer: i wouldn't worry about it. if you want it, leave it, if not, change it[00:19:16] <lunaphyte> it's simply because there can be varying ways in which "local" may be expressed[00:19:31] <lunaphyte> varying over the years, and among operating systems[00:19:56] <viderizer> lunaphyte: I'm wondering what is it even supposed to mean, it certainly doesn't resolve to anything. Is it supposed to or is it some ancient reminiscent?[00:20:17] <viderizer> ah, okay, thanks[00:20:17] <lunaphyte> and heavens no, the generic table is not "mostly there to provide a sensible default for other MUAs". :)[00:20:31] <lunaphyte> viderizer: have you tried postix on every os?[00:20:42] <lunaphyte> it runs on many ;)[00:21:59] <rob0> I can possibly answer the why[00:22:27] <rob0> Wietse wanted Postfix to be a drop-in Sendmail replacement.[00:22:52] <rob0> Some cron daemons send to $USER@localhost[00:23:02] <rob0> Postfix has:[00:23:14] <rob0> !append_dot_mydomain[00:23:15] <knoba> rob0: "append_dot_mydomain" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Append the string ".$mydomain" to addresses that have no ".domain" information.[00:23:21] <rob0> default "yes"[00:23:42] <lunaphyte> that would be closer to a setting for the purpose of "mostly there to provide a sensible default for other MUAs"[00:24:23] <lunaphyte> but even then, in this day and age, software which is not configurable is rather archaic[00:24:30] <rob0> But indeed, no idea why that would be a problem. In fact most Postfix defaults are designed and chosen to cause the fewest problems.[00:25:07] <viderizer> it isn't a problem, I just got curious for the reason of it existing[00:25:18] <lunaphyte> viderizer: it resolves for me :)[00:25:33] <lunaphyte> that said, i wouldn't ever use it[00:25:44] <viderizer> lunaphyte: FreeBSD?[00:25:49] <rob0> And anyway, it would be reckless to rely on defaults for $mydestination[00:25:59] <lunaphyte> part of the reason it resolves for me is because i have a thorough dns setup[00:26:14] <lunaphyte> viderizer: it's not solely wrt specific os default behavior[00:27:26] <viderizer> lunaphyte: sorry, I just guessed based on the only relevant default configuration google gave me[00:28:27] <lunaphyte> i woudn't know which os might have a default like that in hosts(5), or which os might not, mostly because if it did, i'd remove it and put it in dns where it belongs.[00:28:38] <lunaphyte> which is, of course, host and os agnostic[00:29:18] <viderizer> is it considered bad practice to not deliver mail to $myhostname or localhost but only hosted virtual domains?[00:29:42] <lunaphyte> it really is remarkable how much software out there thinks it's ok to expect admins/users to do dumb stuff with hosts(5) to "solve problems"[00:29:54] <lunaphyte> where did i just come across something the other day?[00:30:23] <lunaphyte> viderizer: not at all[00:30:44] *** aindilis2 has quit IRC[00:31:43] <lunaphyte> but neither of those concepts really has anything to do with things like "hosted" or "virtual"[00:31:52] <lunaphyte> everything is "hosted" ;)[00:32:15] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[00:32:57] <lunaphyte> and virtual - well, that probably doens't quite mean what you think it means, if you're coming at this from the perspective of http[00:34:40] <viderizer> lunaphyte: please elaborate, I'm not sure if I know what you mean[00:38:07] *** IronEagle has quit IRC[00:42:54] *** infides has quit IRC[00:43:56] <lunaphyte> just that people often get hung up on vague abstract notions about the meaning of "virtual", becuase they learned one set of concepts when they installed apache httpd[00:44:56] <lunaphyte> in postfix, virtual mean one single, specific, thing. it means mail will delivered with the virtual(8) mda, which is one of the two mdas provided with postfix.[00:46:46] <viderizer> yes, I learned that at some point while reading the docs[00:46:49] <lunaphyte> the term is best referenced in address_class_readme [and not to confuse things, i suppose it's necessary to say there are also virtual aliases, which are sort of a different thing, and don't relate to mail delivery[00:46:53] <lunaphyte> ][00:49:25] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[00:53:13] *** TheFatherMind has quit IRC[00:53:37] *** TheFatherMind has joined #postfix[00:56:31] *** shad0VV_ has joined #postfix[00:56:57] *** heroux_ has joined #postfix[00:57:18] *** cite_ has joined #postfix[00:57:41] *** Tormin_ has joined #postfix[00:58:19] *** Batch_ has joined #postfix[00:59:10] *** rsc_ has joined #postfix[00:59:11] *** rsc_ has joined #postfix[00:59:37] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[01:00:13] *** schrodinger_ has joined #postfix[01:00:17] *** Batch_ has quit IRC[01:00:22] *** gamba47_ has joined #postfix[01:00:25] *** heroux has quit IRC[01:00:28] *** shad0VV has quit IRC[01:00:28] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[01:00:29] *** ggherdov has quit IRC[01:00:35] *** Zeeshan_M has quit IRC[01:00:36] *** cite has quit IRC[01:00:37] *** dan_j has quit IRC[01:00:38] *** Nothing4You has quit IRC[01:00:39] *** MxyzptlkFishStix has quit IRC[01:00:41] *** Tormin has quit IRC[01:00:43] *** quenode has quit IRC[01:00:43] *** atmx has quit IRC[01:00:48] *** doppo has quit IRC[01:00:48] *** skarn has quit IRC[01:00:49] *** rsc has quit IRC[01:00:52] *** nyloc has quit IRC[01:00:53] *** misterjack has quit IRC[01:00:54] *** de-vri-es has quit IRC[01:00:54] *** MrC has quit IRC[01:00:55] *** gabizou has quit IRC[01:00:56] *** maedox has quit IRC[01:00:56] *** sep has quit IRC[01:00:58] *** kalz has quit IRC[01:00:59] *** Batch has quit IRC[01:01:04] *** Signum has quit IRC[01:01:06] *** tunage has quit IRC[01:01:10] *** schrodinger has quit IRC[01:01:10] *** gamba47 has quit IRC[01:01:11] *** armin has quit IRC[01:01:17] *** HeavyMetal has quit IRC[01:01:21] *** a_west has quit IRC[01:01:27] *** equilibriumuk has quit IRC[01:01:28] *** RickyB98 has quit IRC[01:01:28] *** ponky has quit IRC[01:01:32] *** chaas has joined #postfix[01:01:33] *** heroux_ is now known as heroux[01:01:34] *** armin_ has joined #postfix[01:01:35] *** JanC has quit IRC[01:01:36] *** ld50 has quit IRC[01:01:37] *** atmx has joined #postfix[01:01:37] *** misterjack has joined #postfix[01:01:37] *** dan_j_ has joined #postfix[01:01:41] *** doppo has joined #postfix[01:01:42] *** HeavyMetal has joined #postfix[01:01:43] *** HeavyMetal has joined #postfix[01:01:44] *** wopi has quit IRC[01:01:44] *** ponky has joined #postfix[01:01:45] *** anyk has quit IRC[01:01:45] *** nyloc has joined #postfix[01:01:46] *** MrC has joined #postfix[01:01:48] *** MxyzptlkFishStix has joined #postfix[01:01:48] *** a_west has joined #postfix[01:01:49] *** RickyB98 has joined #postfix[01:01:50] *** tunage has joined #postfix[01:01:50] *** dan_j_ is now known as dan_j[01:01:57] *** RickyB98 has quit IRC[01:01:58] *** RickyB98 has joined #postfix[01:02:03] *** ld50 has joined #postfix[01:02:04] *** quenode has joined #postfix[01:02:05] *** skarn has joined #postfix[01:02:11] *** JanC has joined #postfix[01:02:36] *** sep has joined #postfix[01:02:44] *** sphenxes01 has joined #postfix[01:03:16] *** anyk has joined #postfix[01:03:22] *** de-vri-es has joined #postfix[01:04:01] *** ggherdov has joined #postfix[01:04:20] *** kalz has joined #postfix[01:04:25] *** Nothing4You has joined #postfix[01:04:44] *** michael_imac has joined #postfix[01:05:17] *** Zeeshan_M has joined #postfix[01:06:06] *** sphenxes02 has quit IRC[01:06:14] *** maedox has joined #postfix[01:08:26] *** gabizou has joined #postfix[01:12:37] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[01:41:40] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[01:46:09] *** aindilis2 has joined #postfix[01:54:30] <viderizer> hm, virtual_alias_maps applies to all mail?[01:56:08] <rob0> true. And it's a slight note to attach to what lunaphyte said about "single meaning of virtual".[01:56:51] <rob0> There are two manual pages called virtual, section 5 (virtual_alias_maps format) and section 8 (the MDA.)[01:59:42] <viderizer> what would be the most reasonable way to only alias when the domain matches $virtual_mailbox_domains[02:00:23] <pj> include the domain as part of the keys in virtual_alias_maps.[02:02:20] <rob0> lots of SQL tricks might be at your disposal if you're using SQL of some kind.[02:03:20] <pj> yep[02:04:23] *** NyB has left #postfix[02:05:04] <pj> and if not, postfix 3.0 now includes ways of combining db maps in complex ways to produce desired results as well.[02:06:03] <pj> !database[02:06:03] <knoba> pj: "database" : http://www.postfix.org/DATABASE_README.html provides an overview of how Postfix lookup tables work, and the various types that are implemented.[02:07:44] <pj> you might be able to get creative with pipemap and unionmap to do what you want, though I'm not entirely certain.[02:08:55] <rob0> BTW, every recipient address will continue to be looked up in virtual_alias_maps; what we're talking about will not change that fact.[02:10:47] <pj> well the only exception is if no_address_mappings is set.[02:16:17] *** rsc_ is now known as rsc[02:34:35] *** tunage has quit IRC[02:35:43] *** tunage has joined #postfix[02:35:51] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[02:36:07] *** linuxmonger has joined #postfix[02:45:29] *** joulez is now known as joules[02:46:57] <lunaphyte> yeah, my reference later was an attempt to amend that[02:48:08] *** linuxmonger has quit IRC[02:50:38] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[02:53:38] <rob0> oh, you did, sorry[02:59:07] <lunaphyte> well, it was in desperation :)[02:59:15] <lunaphyte> [my attempt][03:00:43] <viderizer> meh, I just changed my sql entries to include a domain[03:03:52] *** linuxmonger has joined #postfix[03:04:30] <linuxmonger> Hello! I hope the coming year brings you more joy than than the past. I have a question that I've Googled and not found a satisfactory response.[03:04:31] <linuxmonger> I'm running a Postfix server, up-to-date and working well, and I use gmvault to download my Google gmail messages.[03:04:31] <linuxmonger> These messages appear to be properly formed, they have headers and dates and such, a blank line and then the body of the message.[03:04:31] <linuxmonger> My question; is there an easy way to push these into postfix as is, to be delivered to a specific user, or would I need to rewrite the To: line in the header? And, either way, how do I get them into postfix?[03:05:18] <rob0> You don't need Postfix at all. Perhaps you want an IMAP server?[03:05:22] <rob0> !imap[03:05:22] <knoba> rob0: "imap" : IMAP is an application layer Internet protocol that allows a client (MUA) to access mailboxes on a remote server (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP). Postfix does not provide IMAP (or POP3) service; see !courier or !dovecot for common IMAP/POP3 choices.[03:06:25] <linuxmonger> Pardon, the end result I'm looking for is that theses messages end up in my imap folders, sorted out by dovecot seive filters.[03:06:33] <pj> right, you likely don't want to push these into postfix, what you really want is to transfer your google mailstore to a local mailstore.[03:07:24] <pj> sorting with sieve filters would require that it gets processed through dovecot lmtp[03:08:06] <pj> linuxmonger: at any rate, this is likely what you want: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Migration/Gmail[03:08:13] <linuxmonger> And it seemed that the easiest way to hand them to dovecot would be to have postfix do that.[03:11:28] <linuxmonger> I have both (dovecot and postfix) set up and working. If there was a simple way to tell postfix that this file is to be delivered to user x, it would get a proper spam check, then pushed into dovecot for delivery to the user and filtered based on who it's from, what type of messege, etc...[03:12:18] <pj> well, if you really want to pull the messages through postfix, then you would likely want something like fetchmail.[03:12:23] <pj> !fetchmail[03:12:23] <knoba> pj: "fetchmail" : a command-line tool to fetch emails from POP3/IMAP servers and send them to a (local) mail server[03:17:55] <linuxmonger> Honest, what I want is to have a single message in a temporary file, and somehow hand it to postfix, to be delivered to user xyzzy at mydomain dot com. I have a lot of infrastructure in place to make backups of messages, filter them, share messages across multiple mailboxes, etc..[03:19:49] <pj> then you likely just want to use the sendmail command, but it will inject via pickup, which bypasses all your smtpd_* settings.[03:19:53] <linuxmonger> I had thought about fetchmail, but to the best of my knowledge, it can't talk to gmail, and I already have the messages on the mail server, broken down into folders of messages already processed, and to-be-processed.[03:21:13] <pj> if you need to have the messages go through smtd_*_restrictions, then you will want something like msmtp which implements a sendmail command that then injects via smtp.[03:21:36] <linuxmonger> With the sendmail command, I can specify the recipient on the command line, and hand it the message as a file or pipe?[03:22:14] <pj> yes, or sendmail can read the message headers with -t[03:22:15] <linuxmonger> I don't need to do any filtering on the sending server, I already know my level of trust with Google.[03:23:19] <linuxmonger> The headers are currently wrong (the To: is the user at Google), changing my server to accept gmail as local would break other things.[03:23:27] *** err-or_ has joined #postfix[03:24:08] <pj> ok, then yes, you specify the recipients on the command line (and don't pass -t)[03:24:40] <pj> read the sendmail(1) man page[03:24:45] <pj> !sendmail[03:24:46] <knoba> pj: "sendmail" : a pretty cryptic MTA that was famous in the ancient days of UNIX and still runs on a lot of mail servers. Don't confuse it with the "sendmail" command that is offered by Postfix to send emails (for compatibility reasons).[03:24:59] <pj> I'm referring to the command, not the MTA[03:26:29] <linuxmonger> So; 'cat message.eml | sendmail user@here' ?[03:26:51] <pj> read the man page[03:27:13] <pj> and that is uuoc[03:27:38] <linuxmonger> Reading it now, thank you![03:27:40] *** err-or has quit IRC[03:28:00] <pj> sendmail ... < message.eml[03:28:03] <pj> better ^^^^[03:28:55] <linuxmonger> Pardon, I like cats.[03:29:27] <pj> oh, in that case: cat message.eml | cat | cat | cat | cat | sendmail ...[03:29:54] <rob0> That's cat5 cable![03:29:58] <pj> hahaha[03:32:23] <rob0> I think fetchmail could go directly to LMTP[03:33:30] <pj> that could be helpful, but he seems to want to process the files he's already downloaded at this point.[03:33:42] <rob0> oh[03:34:11] <rob0> anyway, another long-term choice to consider is fetchmail + procmail[03:34:19] <pj> anyways, I mentioned fetchmail (as opposed to getmail) be he explicitly seemed to want to go through postfix at the time.[03:34:33] <viderizer> I just spent multiple days trying to set up my own mail server and it finally seems to work![03:34:36] <rob0> yep[03:34:38] <viderizer> I feel accomplished.[03:34:41] <pj> he mentioned wanting to process through SPAM filters, etc.[03:34:45] <rob0> viderizer, cool[03:35:51] <linuxmonger> I love procmail, but had to implement seive a while ago, and I don't want to try running both at the same time.[03:35:54] <pj> linuxmonger: btw, fetchmail should work just fine with gmail, so long as it's properly configured and the gmail account is configured to allow IMAP connections.[03:36:50] <pj> linuxmonger: yeah, I prefer sieve anyways, mainly because I'm already running dovecot, so I don't feel the need to add yet another delivery agent to my system in addition to the four that are already present between postfix and dovecot.[03:37:31] <linuxmonger> But, the sendmail on the CLI seems to work properly, and it filtered properly, this is exactly what I wanted, than you![03:37:56] *** MxyzptlkFishStix has quit IRC[03:37:57] <pj> linuxmonger: yw[03:38:57] <linuxmonger> I was surprised that I didn't need to run it as root, even better, as I have to users pulling messages with gmvault, and there crons can do all of the processing.[03:41:39] <linuxmonger> I just re-read my own posts, spelling mistakes on every line, I'll blame that on the alcohol. Thank you again, and have a good year![03:53:06] <pj> no, sendmail doesnt' need to be run as root, but you can restrict which users can use it.[03:54:08] *** MxyzptlkFishStix has joined #postfix[04:02:52] *** linuxmonger has quit IRC[04:26:46] *** Tourist has quit IRC[05:01:17] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[07:06:12] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[07:18:09] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[07:44:56] *** damyan^ has quit IRC[07:45:56] *** damyan^ has joined #postfix[07:52:55] *** cell_x has joined #postfix[07:56:23] <cell_x> was going to share this issue i was dealing with for an hour... i'm running an older postfix setup with saslauth+ldap. we started putting email addresses in the uid field. SASL was failing. At the end I modified the ldap_filter in saslauthd.conf as:[07:56:27] <cell_x> (|(uid=%u)(mail=%u@%d))[07:59:54] *** synapt is now known as nate[08:08:01] *** Tourist has joined #postfix[08:08:02] *** Tourist has joined #postfix[08:09:54] *** cell_x has left #postfix[08:38:28] *** Motoko has quit IRC[08:41:35] *** pozitrono has joined #postfix[09:22:02] *** sara2010 has joined #postfix[09:23:21] <sara2010> any one help me[09:23:27] <sara2010> can't receiving or sending mail from other host like gmail or yahoo[09:27:01] <pj> !tell sara2010 getting_help[09:27:01] <knoba> sara2010: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[10:04:45] <sara2010> knoba: which logs you need ?[10:05:13] <sara2010> knoba: which config file you need to show you on pastebin[10:10:17] <pj> sara2010: the !showconfig and !relevant_logs factoids that you are asked to read explain that clearly.[10:10:48] *** pozitrono has quit IRC[10:11:15] <pj> !tell sara factoid_read[10:11:15] <knoba> sara: "factoid_read" : If you're instructed to read a factoid you should type a ! followed by the name of the factoid into the channel and the bot will return the factoid text to you. For example to read the !relevant_logs factoid type !relevant_logs on a line by itself in the channel.[10:11:31] *** infides has joined #postfix[10:13:56] <sara2010> http://pastebin.centos.org/37601/[10:14:58] <pj> ok, because even after being clearly told to read those factoids and haing it spelled out to you how to read them, you still just make assumptions about what they say?[10:15:58] <sara2010> pj: i have read all thing ,, but hav't solve this issue[10:16:06] <sara2010> thats why join you to help me[10:17:46] <pj> sara2010: no, you did not, please re-read and follow the directions given to you in the !getting_help factoid above.[11:28:58] *** showaz has joined #postfix[11:44:38] *** pti-jean_ has joined #postfix[11:49:30] *** fatalhalt has joined #postfix[12:00:34] *** Darcidride has joined #postfix[12:12:56] *** Tourist|AFK has joined #postfix[12:13:11] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[12:15:10] *** Tourist has quit IRC[13:13:14] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[13:22:43] *** Darcidride has quit IRC[13:29:29] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[13:36:02] *** Darcidride has joined #postfix[13:37:11] *** Tourist|AFK has quit IRC[13:58:20] *** gongoputch has joined #postfix[14:00:26] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[14:32:39] *** sarri has quit IRC[14:35:18] *** sarri has joined #postfix[14:44:32] *** [44] has joined #postfix[14:44:48] *** fatalhalt has quit IRC[14:47:47] *** infides has quit IRC[14:58:47] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[15:06:52] *** lucascastro has joined #postfix[15:07:39] *** Slackology has joined #postfix[15:12:18] *** Joost` has quit IRC[15:14:00] *** Joost` has joined #postfix[15:14:00] *** Joost` has joined #postfix[15:24:50] *** edux has joined #postfix[15:27:47] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[15:28:47] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[15:43:57] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[15:50:23] *** edux has quit IRC[15:50:47] *** edux has joined #postfix[15:55:15] *** edux has quit IRC[16:03:12] *** [44]_ has joined #postfix[16:15:44] *** Amkei has joined #postfix[16:36:41] *** grossing has quit IRC[16:36:54] *** grossing has joined #postfix[16:44:59] *** swordbeta has joined #postfix[16:45:44] *** swordbeta has quit IRC[16:45:44] *** swordbeta has joined #postfix[16:50:00] *** ced117 has quit IRC[17:01:14] <swordbeta> Hi guys, I'm trying to catch all mail and send it to an external email address. I succeeded in doing so, but it's also bouncing because of the following error: VIRTUAL at mail dot domain.com> (expanded from <test at domain dot com>): unknown user: "virtual".[17:01:18] <swordbeta> The 'virtual' user does indeed not exist and I have set local_recipient_maps to nothing, yet it still is checking for the user. My full config can be found here: http://ur1.ca/odhgk and log here: http://ur1.ca/odhhi What am I missing?[17:04:35] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[17:15:43] <lunaphyte> catch all mail and send it to an external email address?[17:15:51] <lunaphyte> no, don't do that. that's a huge no no[17:16:24] <lunaphyte> first, using wildcards is a huge no no. second, forwarding mail you receive off to other people's servers is a huge no no[17:17:12] *** Tourist has joined #postfix[17:17:13] *** Tourist has joined #postfix[17:24:32] <swordbeta> Hm okay[17:34:50] *** namyzarc has quit IRC[17:38:27] <kingkong> hi.[17:38:47] <kingkong> fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 127: bad transport type: unix????????-????????????[17:39:04] <kingkong> what that means?[17:40:38] <kingkong> thats my master.cf file https://paste.kde.org/pzqklwohw/mrnxqt#line-127[17:41:05] <kingkong> i dont see where is wrong ?[17:42:51] <lunaphyte> it would seem you perhaps have some peculiar characters [possibly non printing, etc] in master.cf[17:43:06] <rob0> UTF-8? Postfix configuration files should be 7-bit ASCII only.[17:43:24] <lunaphyte> start commenting out sections form the bottom up, until you identify the offending section, then carefully rewrite that line[17:43:28] <lunaphyte> *from[17:43:40] <rob0> what did you use to edit it?[17:44:23] <lunaphyte> i used netcat[17:44:32] <rob0> check_relay_domains, ugh! And no, you must not apply DNSBL checks to submission.[17:46:34] *** penrod has joined #postfix[17:51:20] <kingkong> im on tablet pc[17:51:51] <kingkong> i used sftp app to write file[17:52:21] <lunaphyte> well, write the file normally, and see if it works.[17:52:29] <rob0> Yeah, you need to use a regular text editor.[17:52:44] <lunaphyte> if so, then you can debug your sftp software if you feel like investing that sort of time into things[17:53:01] *** namyzarc has joined #postfix[17:53:58] <kingkong> do you advice me any regular text editor for android tablet?[17:54:45] <kingkong> i deleted 127. line and rewrite, still same[17:55:02] <rob0> I am not familiar with that OS. Perhaps you'd want to ssh to the server and edit it there?[17:55:04] <lunaphyte> no need for updates each time you delete a single line[17:55:15] <lunaphyte> just let us know once you figure it out[17:56:39] <kingkong> i rewrite. didnt delete.[17:56:55] <kingkong> yes, i will ssh into server[17:57:41] <kingkong> rob0: no need check_relay_domains and dnsbl ? it was for me?[17:58:17] *** ced117 has quit IRC[17:58:45] <rob0> Where did you see check_relay_domains? Did you look it up in the postconf(5) manual? postconf.5.html#check_relay_domains[17:58:54] <lunaphyte> fine.[17:59:18] <lunaphyte> no need for updates each time you make a single modification to the file[17:59:20] <lunaphyte> is that better?[17:59:28] <lunaphyte> further, YOU said *delete*...[17:59:46] <kingkong> before my mail server was failing each 2-3 days was throttling. i had problem throttle and check_relay_domains fixed it.[18:00:34] <kingkong> rob0: i found it on google solutions to solve problem[18:00:40] <rob0> !google[18:00:41] <knoba> rob0: "google" : Those who use Google before reading the Postfix documentation, if fortunate, end up at http://www.postfix.org/ . If not, they end up in a jumble of bad questions, misleading or wrong answers, and outdated information.[18:00:55] <lunaphyte> that was bad bad advice someone gave you. shame on them :([18:00:56] <rob0> "... and outdated information."[18:01:29] <rob0> Might as well say it was misleading and wrong, too.[18:01:41] <lunaphyte> :)[18:02:14] <kingkong> oh[18:02:27] *** penrod has left #postfix[18:02:38] *** penrod has joined #postfix[18:03:22] <kingkong> i added it later to fix problem already. but dnsbl was in there always. it causes throttle?[18:03:55] <lunaphyte> it doesn't matter if it causes throttle. dnsbls do not belong threre, period.[18:04:02] <lunaphyte> regardless of what they cause[18:04:04] <kingkong> i must delete which ones in that line[18:04:07] <lunaphyte> *there[18:04:23] <rob0> well, those reject_rbl_client restrictions should normally not be reached, but they don't belong there.[18:04:24] <kingkong> hmm[18:04:55] *** Guest48818 has joined #postfix[18:05:06] <rob0> reject_unauth_destination should block any brute-force-attempting submission client.[18:05:22] <kingkong> thats right?[18:06:17] <rob0> can't have spaces in master.cf, no, that's wrong[18:06:36] <rob0> ah, that's the problem[18:06:44] <kingkong> which spaces do you mean ?[18:08:07] <kingkong> do you mean spaces after , ?[18:08:46] <lunaphyte> correct[18:08:56] <lunaphyte> i would also remove permit_mynetworks[18:12:01] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[18:23:51] <rob0> " -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject"[18:25:46] <rob0> or, in main.cf: "submission_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, reject", and then " -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=$submission_recipient_restrictions"[18:26:08] <rob0> See "man 5 master" for master.cf file format documentation.[18:30:30] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[18:34:12] *** infides has joined #postfix[18:40:55] *** Tourist has quit IRC[19:00:11] <kingkong> ok i found the problem[19:01:31] <kingkong> there was 2 spaces before inet word. i added 3 spaces and now works as 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd[19:03:24] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[19:06:22] <lunaphyte> one space is enough. you have some other problem[19:32:43] *** infides has quit IRC[19:36:15] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[19:37:10] *** sphenxes01 has quit IRC[19:41:17] <Nit_> hum, is it ok to remove smtpd_access_maps from parent_domain_matches_subdomains ?[19:42:03] <Nit_> for marching subdomains using .domain.tld in access_maps[19:45:28] <lunaphyte> as a rule, i always unset parent_domain_matches_subdomains[19:45:51] <lunaphyte> that is my recommendation[19:47:06] <Nit_> 'cause the default value is quite loaded "parent_domain_matches_subdomains = debug_peer_list,fast_flush_domains,mynetworks,permit_mx_backup_networks,qmqpd_authorized_clients,relay_domains,smtpd_access_maps"[19:47:22] <lunaphyte> yes[19:47:44] *** ced117 has quit IRC[19:50:19] <Nit_> ok, thanks[19:55:55] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[19:59:42] *** Guest48818 has quit IRC[20:15:11] *** CyberDems has quit IRC[20:16:57] *** CyberDems has joined #postfix[20:18:10] *** edux has joined #postfix[20:18:50] *** edux has quit IRC[20:40:44] *** pozitron has joined #postfix[20:50:53] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[20:53:37] *** skylite has joined #postfix[20:57:25] *** john has joined #postfix[20:57:46] *** john is now known as Guest31631[20:58:15] *** pozitron has quit IRC[21:03:13] *** Tourist has joined #postfix[21:03:14] *** Tourist has joined #postfix[21:13:52] *** [NoClan]GoAway_ has joined #postfix[21:14:00] *** [NoClan]GoAway_ has left #postfix[21:14:14] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[21:15:58] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[21:25:31] *** echan has joined #postfix[21:26:24] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[21:26:44] *** edux has joined #postfix[21:31:42] *** JanC has quit IRC[21:42:45] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[21:44:50] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[21:45:08] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[21:45:43] *** JanC has joined #postfix[21:47:55] *** edux has quit IRC[21:51:50] *** Guest31631 has quit IRC[21:59:59] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[22:00:39] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[22:03:00] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[22:34:02] *** infides has joined #postfix[22:36:28] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[22:49:19] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[22:58:41] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[22:59:58] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[23:02:32] *** tmberg has quit IRC[23:04:23] *** shad0VV_ has quit IRC[23:05:53] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[23:09:17] *** shad0VV has joined #postfix[23:29:47] *** echan has quit IRC[23:30:57] *** Darcidride has quit IRC[23:41:35] *** MxyzptlkFishStix has quit IRC[23:57:05] *** MxyzptlkFishStix has joined #postfix