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[04:31:43] <kisisten> need help with amavisd-new and postfix, I can't get the spam tags to be injected in the email header for local users
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[05:04:02] <lunaphyte> amavisd-new doesn't have an irc channel last i knew, but they have a mailing list which is active
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[05:08:49] <kisisten> i followed this thread to the tee, but the sa-tag still has no SPAM headers
[05:08:54] <kisisten> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1027363.html
[05:09:27] <lunaphyte> i recommend the documentation, and the official support venues
[05:17:31] <kisisten> lunaphyte: you mean this article from 2007>> https://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/README.postfix.html
[05:18:33] <kisisten> tried it 5 times with a clean re-install of postfix, amavis etc
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[05:20:58] <lunaphyte> that's where the official support venues would come in
[05:42:19] <kisisten> no luck, I think the packages in debian jessie are broken somwhere
[05:43:05] <kisisten> i can see the email going through the amavis and sa but no SPAM header tagging
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[09:30:36] <samgoody> What does this error mean: <mailto:admin at frumtherapist dot com>: Sender address rejected: not owned by user mailto:admin at frumtherapist dot com
[09:30:58] <samgoody> Am using port 587 (and have "use ssl" checked) in Apple Mail
[09:31:37] <pj> !tell samgoody relevant_logs
[09:31:37] <knoba> samgoody: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.
[09:32:04] <pj> ...and also this will help...
[09:32:07] <pj> !showconfig
[09:32:07] <knoba> pj: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
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[09:38:23] <ntnlzr> rip Murdock
[09:39:31] <samgoody> I have logging on verbose. The stream from this mail is 114 lines. Should I pastebin it, or should I shut off verbose and try again?
[09:40:26] <samgoody> Since knoba stressed not to use verbose, but here it's relatively short.
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[09:49:24] <samgoody> http://pastebin.ca/3309510
[09:49:33] <samgoody> http://pastebin.ca/3309503
[09:50:07] <samgoody> The first is the conf, the latter is the verbose log of this message. I think only the last part is relevant
[09:51:06] <samgoody> When I try to authenticate the user using postmap it verifies
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[10:08:28] <samgoody> Here it is with verbose off: http://pastebin.ca/3309519
[10:08:53] <samgoody> Pretty please, someone who understands how submission is supposed to work, pretty please take a look?
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[10:30:04] <samgoody> Is it supposed to be a "Anonymous TLS connection established from …" or is that supposed to be a known connection
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[11:34:02] <samgoody> Got it. All issues had to do with the fact that postgres was supposed to return the email instead of the number 1, as suggested in Linode's tutorial
[11:34:08] <samgoody> Is that a change in Postfix?
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[12:15:51] <samgoody> Hi, anyone around?
[12:17:17] <samgoody> Have an issue - since adding  reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname to smtpd_recipient_restrictions, outgoing mail (SMTPD) doesn't go, I get the error:
[12:17:17] <samgoody> 	Client host rejected: cannot find your reverse hostname
[12:17:37] <samgoody> my configs here: http://pastebin.ca/3309597
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[12:17:52] <samgoody> non-verbose logs here: http://pastebin.ca/3309595
[12:18:34] <samgoody> My question is mostly - how do I know which domain it is that doesn't have the correct PTR records?
[12:30:02] <ntnlzr> !postscreen 220
[12:30:02] <knoba> ntnlzr: Error: "postscreen" is not a valid command.
[12:30:38] <ntnlzr> !postscreen_dnsbl_whitelist_threshold
[12:30:38] <knoba> ntnlzr: Error: "postscreen_dnsbl_whitelist_threshold" is not a valid command.
[12:30:45] <ntnlzr> !postscreen dnsbl_whitelist_threshold
[12:30:45] <knoba> ntnlzr: Error: "postscreen" is not a valid command.
[12:31:25] <ntnlzr> fail but i'm on postscreen!
[12:31:39] <ntnlzr> rob0, really tnx you from your how to
[12:31:56] <ntnlzr> basically it's working fine for postfix 3.x too
[12:33:51] <ntnlzr> i mean
[12:33:57] <ntnlzr> http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt
[12:33:57] <ntnlzr> this
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[12:51:15] <samgoody> ntnlzr, was this in response to my question?
[12:52:11] <ntnlzr> no sry samgoody
[12:52:14] <ntnlzr> totally ot
[12:53:54] <samgoody> oh well. In any event, could you help? I am trying to figure out why the DNS doesnt match the ptr, and don't know how to know the two, so I can debug it.
[12:54:17] <ntnlzr> have you a local dns?
[12:54:43] <samgoody> That is, it is failing when I add reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname with the error: Client host rejected: cannot find your reverse hostname
[12:54:50] <samgoody> No, I don't have a local dns
[12:55:04] <ntnlzr> ok you have to ask @ your provider
[12:55:12] <ntnlzr> to make a reverse ptr for your ip address
[12:55:17] <ntnlzr> sry
[12:55:40] <ntnlzr> nslookup yourmx.domain.com get an ip
[12:55:55] <ntnlzr> but if you nslookup that ip not return yourmx.domain.com
[12:56:12] <ntnlzr> just ask to your provider for dns server to make a reverse ptr record for your mx
[12:56:34] <samgoody> My issue is that the PTR matches the domain I *think* I am using.
[12:56:53] <samgoody> How do I know what domain it is looking for, and what IP address it is comparing that to?
[12:57:01] <ntnlzr> nslookup
[12:57:04] <ntnlzr> set type=MX
[12:57:09] <ntnlzr> yourmx.domain.com
[12:57:29] <ntnlzr> i've 3 minutes give me in query your mx
[12:57:47] <ntnlzr> fast !
[12:57:57] <samgoody> my mail is me at mydomain dot com, but the mail server is email.otherdomain.com
[12:58:09] <samgoody> Which domain do I put, mydomain, or otherdomain?
[12:58:37] <ntnlzr> for what?
[12:58:44] <ntnlzr> same as nslookup mx record
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[12:59:35] <ntnlzr|out> happy new years guys
[13:00:04] <samgoody> I have a mailserver: email.otherdomain.com. I have multiple domains that should send through there, in this case me at mydomain dot com
[13:00:30] <samgoody> When I use nslookup, which domain am I supposed to be looking up - mydomian.com or email.otherdomain.com?
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[13:02:07] <ntnlzr|out> mydomain.com
[13:02:22] <ntnlzr|out> cu man
[13:03:07] <samgoody> thanks. bye
[13:03:12] <ntnlzr|out> np :)
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[13:28:20] <samgoody> Anyone else around who can help?
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[13:32:23] <samgoody> when I add reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname, it fails with the error: Client host rejected: cannot find your reverse hostname
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[20:18:58] <shudon> hi all :) is there any configuration that retains email after it has been delivered?
[20:19:46] <rob0> what's the point in delivering if it's not retained?
[20:19:57] <shudon> rob0: i mean, to another relay
[20:20:13] <rob0> be specific about what you are asking
[20:22:06] <shudon> email gets queued by postfix. it is to=<someone at somewhereelse dot com> and postfix reaches status=sent 240 from remote MTA
[20:22:23] <shudon> i wonder if there is a way that more information about that email can be retained after this
[20:22:35] <shudon> the log tells me a lot but not exact contents or header of email
[20:22:55] <shudon> s/240/250
[20:24:52] <shudon> so when postfix log tells me something like
[20:24:54] <shudon> Dec 23 15:32:29 mail postfix/qmgr[21981]: CBF5F6A9A3A: removed
[20:25:09] <shudon> that means that no full copy of the email remains on my system, right?
[20:30:06] <rob0> right, I guess.  You can have your MUA keep a copy, and most of them do that by default.
[20:30:47] <rob0> Are you wanting all users' mail to be archived?
[20:30:57] <kisisten> hi, what happens to the deferred mail that can't be returned to the remote server or spambot?
[20:31:43] <rob0> kisisten should not be accepting mail you cannot deliver.  Where did it come from?
[20:32:12] <kisisten> rob0: from an infected system somewhere in the world
[20:32:25] <rob0> why did you accept it?
[20:32:45] <kisisten> i have to accept emails from hosts don't I?
[20:32:54] <rob0> I don't know.
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[20:33:51] <kisisten> i asked about it a few days back and I was told that it will by smpt standards will exept emails if there is no route to the host back to port 25
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[20:35:09] <kisisten> so I have a choice to discard it or deferr it, but what if this is a legit host that doesn't connect back on 25 or is under ddos at the moment etc
[20:35:25] <kisisten> s/deferr/defer
[20:36:14] <shudon> rob0: for some period of time, yes. i can take care of removing any retained emails beyond a certain age limit.
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[21:17:09] <lunaphyte> !tell shudon always_bcc
[21:17:09] <knoba> shudon: "always_bcc" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.
[21:17:18] <lunaphyte> along with its brethren
[21:17:24] <lunaphyte> see postconf | grep -iF bcc
[21:17:34] <lunaphyte> kisisten: something is missing in this equation
[21:19:10] <lunaphyte> kisisten: you accepted a message - so it should be delivered.  it should not be accepted, then you change your mind, then you try to return it
[21:22:21] <shudon> lunaphyte: yes i've seen this. it would be more convenient for me if they could just be kept accessible in a special queue of some kind. but i guess with some work, this could do the trick
[21:22:34] <shudon> or, is there perhaps a way to get postfix to log more information?
[21:23:46] <rob0> well, perhaps you might want header_checks with WARN actions
[21:23:55] <shudon> i'm curious right now for instance of the to: from: cc: headers, not only the envelope
[21:24:06] <shudon> rob0: hmm, i'll check that out. thanks :)
[21:25:09] <lunaphyte> note that a maildir would constitute a "special queue of some kind" ;)
[21:27:54] <lunaphyte> the header_checks idea is a good one.  also see the info action, as long as your version of postfix is not abandoned
[21:28:22] <lunaphyte> heck, with header_checks and body_checks, you could log the entire message!  what an awful idea that would be!
[21:30:03] <shudon> :3
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[21:57:22] <Lencl> hello
[21:57:58] <Lencl> When I try to send an to an email that doesn't exist with my own local domain, I get error: Recipient address rejected: User
[21:57:58] <Lencl>  unknown in virtual mailbox
[21:58:09] <Lencl> how can I get it to send the email anyway?
[21:59:17] <Dominian> Why would you want it to?
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[22:02:10] <Lencl> because a user could enter 100 emails and it'll be annoying to have to remove when they aren't there
[22:02:16] <Lencl> *when they don't exist
[22:02:34] <Lencl> and more importantly, that's how it normally is. Like gmail, yahoo, etc. they allow you to send the email anyway
[22:03:55] <rob0> huh?  They certainly do not.
[22:08:55] <rob0> And anyway, I don't get it.  "Have to remove" what?
[22:11:22] <Dominian> You would never want you emaijl system to allow sending email as an account that doesn't exist
[22:11:30] <Dominian> That's how spammers are born.
[22:17:10] <penrod> greetings, sre some of the rbl databases better than others ? the reason I ask is, zen.spamhaus seems to catch a number of the incoming emails, and the ones it misses, when I chekc with the "mx tool blacklists" the ip shows up in the zen.spamhaus databse.
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[23:11:23] <kisisten> lunaphyte: and how to I reject the message?
[23:12:06] <kisisten> if I reject it, it gets placed into the deferred queue
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[23:16:28] <kisisten> lunaphyte: btw, managed to fix that pesky amavis tag injections, the only way it would work if I use local_domain_maps stanza
[23:17:18] <kisisten> i'm out, have a good evening all
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