October 21, 2013 
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October 21, 2013 [00:01:15] *** dylukes has joined #postfix[00:01:22] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[00:04:21] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[00:18:46] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[00:20:10] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[00:26:19] *** Zerberus has quit IRC[00:26:33] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[00:26:52] *** lunaphyte has joined #postfix[00:27:56] *** Zerberus has joined #postfix[00:36:34] <tmberg> adaptr: Im just confused about the diffrence with 55x and 45x replies when the response is relaying denied.[00:44:31] *** gencha has quit IRC[00:45:09] *** gencha has joined #postfix[00:47:32] <adaptr> there is no difference. they are unrelated[00:48:05] <adaptr> !relay_denied[00:48:05] <knoba> adaptr: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).[00:48:50] <adaptr> this issues the 554 status as shown above, unless you have enabled soft_bounce (you should not enable soft_bounce unless you are testign a potentially incorrect configruation)[00:54:09] <tmberg> adaptr: Well. On my box i get the 45x response and on the isp i worked on a long time ago i get the 55x response. When testing if its an open relay. Not that it matters much. Im just the curious kind. :)[00:54:35] <adaptr> show actual logs that exemplify this[00:55:51] <tmberg> adaptr: And what i read. The 55x response is the default response on postfix.[00:56:56] <tmberg> adaptr: Heh. Dont remember where i tested it. ( Memory is short but good. =)[00:57:07] <adaptr> no, it is the only response. 554 is mandated by RFC[01:01:46] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[01:03:10] *** twb has joined #postfix[01:05:53] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[01:07:11] <tmberg> adaptr: A. Found another place. Can i pm you the paste?[01:07:28] <adaptr> no. there's nothing secret in the logs[01:16:14] <tmberg> https://privatepaste.com/b6024f4c39/postfixadaptr[01:16:23] <tmberg> Of course, I have no access to my previous employer servers.[01:17:07] <adaptr> I asked for logs.[01:21:35] <tmberg> Well...[01:21:53] <adaptr> !tell tmberg getting_help[01:21:53] <knoba> tmberg: "getting_help" : before asking your question, provide a pastebin which includes relevant log data and your config. see !pastebin, !relevant_logs and !showconfig for instructions on doing this.[01:21:55] <tmberg> https://privatepaste.com/305b0ca715/log[01:22:47] <adaptr> NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from adf-a.dnsstuff.com[74.115.12.10]: 454 4.7.1 <open.relay at example dot com>[01:22:53] <adaptr> you have soft_bounce enabled.[01:23:01] <adaptr> don't do that unless you know exactly what you're doing[01:24:03] *** Hydrazine has quit IRC[01:24:45] *** Hydrazine has joined #postfix[01:29:26] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:29:57] <tmberg> adaptr: That has never been in my config. But never mind. Thanks for your help anyway.[01:30:47] <adaptr> the postfix reply to a message that is not allowed for relay is as the bot has shown. there are two execptions to it: soft_bounce, and specific per-sender/recipient/client REJECT access rules[01:30:56] <adaptr> all of these would be set by you, none of this is automatic[01:36:05] *** MacWinner has joined #postfix[01:38:55] <tmberg> Then its likely because i have catchall that causes it. *me thinks* Yes, I know. But its 10+years too late.[01:40:08] <adaptr> "catchall" is not a postfix feature[01:40:24] <adaptr> it sounds like an affliction, especially since you say you "have it"[01:40:44] <adaptr> perhaps you can detail what exactly it is that you have configured to achieve this goal[01:49:43] <tmberg> Nah. I skip that. But thanks. Everything works perfectly except for that "error".[02:05:34] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[02:15:50] *** Rene has quit IRC[02:18:55] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[02:21:12] *** Roukoswarf has joined #postfix[02:21:53] <Roukoswarf> hello, i have looked through documents but it seems to collide with something of a different meaning, how do you set up postfix to allow a user to send as another user?[02:22:10] <adaptr> define "send as another user".[02:22:12] <Roukoswarf> example, i am trying to send as alex at rouk dot org from alexander at rouk dot org[02:22:31] *** Rene has joined #postfix[02:22:33] <Roukoswarf> using an identity, it claims to send, but it never reaches its destination[02:23:07] <twb> Roukoswarf: are you using submission?[02:23:11] <Roukoswarf> yes[02:23:26] <adaptr> !smtpd_sender_login_maps[02:23:26] <knoba> adaptr: "smtpd_sender_login_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup table with the SASL login names that own sender (MAIL FROM) addresses.[02:23:30] <twb> I wasn't aware of postfix forcibly rewriting the DATA payload (From)[02:23:38] <adaptr> twb: it doesn't.[02:23:51] <twb> adaptr: so what's he talking about?[02:24:04] <Roukoswarf> "sent on behalf of"[02:24:21] <Roukoswarf> as it commonly appears in gmail[02:24:26] <adaptr> Roukoswarf: to postfix, all that matters is the envelope sender.[02:24:32] <twb> Is that something your MUA prints when the MAIL FROM doesn't match the DATA From ?[02:24:33] <adaptr> and this is most definitely not #gmail[02:24:44] <Roukoswarf> hm[02:25:26] <Roukoswarf> DC26B59013F6: from=<alex at rouk dot org>, size=597, nrcpt=1 (queue active)[02:25:28] <twb> Pastebin an example (inc. evelope headers) of such an email[02:25:41] <adaptr> twb: what are "envelope headers"[02:25:41] <Roukoswarf> it appears using an identity does try to change the from=[02:25:56] <adaptr> Roukoswarf: postfix has no concept of "identity"[02:26:18] <Roukoswarf> adaptr: sign in as one user, try to use a from= of another[02:26:30] <Roukoswarf> sasl_username=alexander[02:26:34] <Roukoswarf> on that request[02:26:34] <adaptr> Roukoswarf: postfix has no concept of "signing in", either.[02:26:42] <Roukoswarf> sending from=alex at rouk dot org[02:27:01] <adaptr> I already gave you the answer you're looking for. what are you wasting time for ?[02:27:34] <Roukoswarf> because im still pretty sure this is a postfix issue[02:27:54] *** dylukes has quit IRC[02:27:58] <Roukoswarf> would you like me to send it to a hotmail mailbox to show you its not gmail?[02:28:07] <Roukoswarf> mail myself perchance?[02:28:36] <adaptr> you should probably stop pouting and re-read what I said above. the first answer I gave you is what you should be looking into.[02:29:23] <Roukoswarf> hm... it works when sending to self, it hits my mailbos as "from=alex at rouk dot org"[02:29:32] <Roukoswarf> wouldnt that mean the mapping is working?[02:30:10] <adaptr> postfix by default does not restrict the sender address in any way[02:30:42] <Roukoswarf> wouldnt the google servers respond if they were rejecting it?[02:30:49] <Roukoswarf> they respond with 250 ok[02:31:06] <adaptr> would you stop talking about google ? it's irrelevant[02:31:30] <Roukoswarf> well you said smtpd_sender_login_maps[02:32:04] <Roukoswarf> where could that be the problem?[02:32:21] <adaptr> you have yet to show any actual problem related to postfix[02:32:47] <Roukoswarf> my sender address spoofing isnt working when sending to external servers[02:32:52] <Roukoswarf> problem ---^[02:33:04] <adaptr> what is "sender address spoofing" ?[02:33:23] <Roukoswarf> sasl authing as alexander, sending as alex[02:33:25] <adaptr> !tell Roukoswarf getting_help[02:33:25] <knoba> Roukoswarf: "getting_help" : before asking your question, provide a pastebin which includes relevant log data and your config. see !pastebin, !relevant_logs and !showconfig for instructions on doing this.[02:35:35] <pj> Roukoswarf: if you want to sasl auth as alexander and send as alex then go ahead and do just that, postfix won't stop you by default.[02:36:34] <Roukoswarf> well, that was silly, it worked actually, but it got spam binned silently[02:36:40] <Roukoswarf> damn you google[02:36:59] <adaptr> remember that last bit[02:37:07] <adaptr> hold onto it[02:37:17] <pj> hahaha[02:41:36] <Roukoswarf> i like google most of the time[02:41:42] <Roukoswarf> i just tire of spam filters[02:42:03] <Roukoswarf> blacklist vs whitelist problem[02:42:50] <Roukoswarf> microsoft mail is worse, it just yells at you if you are on any blacklists, even if they were from before the IP was reassigned[02:45:52] *** thumbs has quit IRC[02:49:05] <twb> adaptr: I really meant Received[02:49:19] <adaptr> in relation to what ?[02:53:09] *** oo_miguel has quit IRC[02:57:10] *** aarcane_ has quit IRC[02:57:56] *** Roukoswarf has left #postfix[03:02:54] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[03:03:02] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[03:05:57] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[03:18:07] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[03:18:07] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[03:18:46] *** thumbs has quit IRC[03:19:15] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[03:22:48] *** thumbs has quit IRC[03:28:28] *** tmberg has quit IRC[03:34:50] <jimpop> in postfix lingo, what are "hash" "mysql" "pcre" referred to as a whole?[03:35:08] <jimpop> access types?[03:35:34] <twb> tables, I suppose[03:36:10] <jimpop> so is "table type" appropriate ?[03:36:13] <twb> Ah, maps[03:36:24] <jimpop> ok, map type[03:36:31] <twb> "map type" sounds good to me, but I'm not an expert[03:36:37] <jimpop> oh[03:36:42] <jimpop> adaptr[03:37:06] <jimpop> adaptr says he's an expert, he'll know[03:37:12] <jimpop> :P[03:39:09] <jimpop> ahh DATABASE_README says it's "lookup table", so I'm looking for types of Lookup Tables.[03:46:26] <jimpop> so... I want to investigate adding a lookup table type. One that would perform a custom query (in this case against a python pck file)[03:46:27] <jimpop> is that even possible?[03:48:01] <lunaphyte> man 5 tcp_table, perhaps.[03:48:45] *** jgm__ has joined #postfix[03:48:50] <jimpop> ooh, ty very much lunaphyte[03:53:42] *** dylukes has joined #postfix[04:03:23] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[04:06:29] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[04:24:51] *** joobz has joined #postfix[04:36:08] *** fireglow has quit IRC[04:37:40] *** fireglow has joined #postfix[04:37:57] *** joobz has quit IRC[04:39:58] *** master_o1_master has joined #postfix[04:40:22] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[04:42:42] *** geo27 has quit IRC[04:43:36] *** geo27 has joined #postfix[04:43:44] *** err-or_ has joined #postfix[04:43:51] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[04:47:29] *** err-or has quit IRC[04:50:49] *** jelly has quit IRC[04:51:16] *** jelly has joined #postfix[04:54:38] <lunaphyte> np :)[04:56:43] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[04:59:23] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[05:04:13] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[05:06:44] *** defaultro has joined #postfix[05:06:48] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[05:15:27] *** jarif has joined #postfix[05:20:36] *** joobz has joined #postfix[05:25:09] *** dylukes has quit IRC[05:25:26] *** terr1 has quit IRC[05:25:27] *** jduggan has quit IRC[05:25:27] *** Zethrok_ has quit IRC[05:26:16] *** Zethrok has joined #postfix[05:26:23] *** jduggan has joined #postfix[05:26:57] *** diabel has quit IRC[05:27:12] *** diabel has joined #postfix[05:28:39] *** terr1 has joined #postfix[05:58:44] *** jgm__ has quit IRC[06:00:07] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[06:00:37] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[06:04:22] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[06:07:33] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[06:08:37] *** TheAvatar has quit IRC[06:10:25] *** NightTrain has quit IRC[06:26:20] *** jarif has quit IRC[07:04:48] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[07:05:00] *** joobz has quit IRC[07:08:11] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[07:14:47] *** cite has quit IRC[07:20:34] *** TheAvatar has joined #postfix[07:26:00] *** cite has joined #postfix[07:42:41] *** wafflejock has joined #postfix[07:43:34] <wafflejock> about to follow this guide to install Postfix on Kubuntu 13.04 if anyone has tried and has tips I'm all ears https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto[07:43:35] *** joobz has joined #postfix[07:44:01] *** joobz has quit IRC[07:47:02] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[08:00:08] *** steven4455 has quit IRC[08:01:46] *** Motoko has quit IRC[08:05:13] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[08:08:57] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[08:43:51] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[08:44:29] *** err-or_ has quit IRC[08:45:55] *** maxter has joined #postfix[08:47:39] *** defaultro has quit IRC[09:02:36] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[09:03:04] *** Niemi has joined #postfix[09:05:52] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[09:09:07] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[09:15:49] *** trusktr has quit IRC[09:17:41] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:27:01] *** jarif has joined #postfix[09:49:52] <pj> !tell wafflejock tutorial[09:49:52] <knoba> wafflejock: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[10:06:10] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[10:09:07] <wafflejock> pj: the main documentation says if you're new to mail server setups you should use the page I linked to... anyhow as an aside if anyone else follows that guide you should make sure you kill the sendmail process to get postfix to start before attempting to send an email[10:09:39] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[10:09:43] <wafflejock> pj: well at least the documentation on the ubuntu site, should I just use the postfix.org site as the source of truth?[10:09:48] <pj> really? so the postfix docs tell you to use an ubuntu tutorial?[10:10:21] <pj> !basic[10:10:21] <knoba> pj: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[10:10:34] <pj> !common[10:10:34] <knoba> pj: Error: "common" is not a valid command.[10:10:39] <pj> hrmmmm, one sec[10:11:10] <wafflejock> pj: cool thank you[10:11:49] <pj> ahhh, here it is...[10:11:51] <pj> !examples[10:11:51] <knoba> pj: "examples" : http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html[10:12:08] <pj> so those two pages are good starting places.[10:12:08] *** twb has quit IRC[10:13:28] <pj> oh, yep, and this...[10:13:30] <pj> !overview[10:13:31] <knoba> pj: "overview" : Postfix Architecture Overview : http://www.postfix.org/OVERVIEW.html[10:39:38] *** tobis has joined #postfix[10:39:43] <tobis> Hi[10:45:08] *** phaidros has joined #postfix[10:45:08] <tobis> I have a really weird issue with postfix : when I'm trying to fetch my mail using Outlook 2010, I can see some of the mails poping and disapear in a seconde. Here is my postconf -n : http://pastebin.com/aAamg4UW[10:46:01] <phaidros> I am using postfix with amavisd, how does one re-queue a quarantined email?[10:47:41] <tobis> I have follow this tutorial : http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-ubuntu-12.04-lts . I think my trouble came from Dovecot but I'm not sure[10:48:04] <Zerberus> tobis: Postfix does not provide IMAP or POP, so there is no "fetching with Outlook" against Postfix[10:48:23] <Zerberus> tobis: and howtoforge should be killed with fire[10:48:30] <Zerberus> !tell tobis tutorial[10:48:30] <knoba> tobis: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[10:49:14] <phaidros> amavisd-release seems to work for virusmails only, not for banned one .. o.O[10:49:15] <Zerberus> phaidros: amavisd-release[10:49:20] <phaidros> Zerberus: ^^[10:49:51] <phaidros> Zerberus: I was wrong, typo :)[10:49:55] <phaidros> Zerberus: thank you![10:50:00] <tobis> knoba : I already have a full functional Postfix installation before this tutorial, I just use it to put my users conf on mysql database[10:50:29] <Zerberus> tobis: knoba is a bot[10:50:39] <tobis> Zerberus : ok ;)[10:51:49] *** tuxick has quit IRC[10:52:44] <pj> tobis: regardless, it's not a postfix issue.[10:56:00] *** BluesMurf has joined #postfix[11:04:28] *** tld has quit IRC[11:06:45] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[11:09:28] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[11:12:05] *** BluesMurf has quit IRC[11:13:54] *** BluesMurf has joined #postfix[11:13:54] *** BluesMurf is now known as tuxick[11:26:54] *** phaidros has left #postfix[11:30:44] *** kirin` has quit IRC[11:42:57] *** tld has joined #postfix[11:53:31] *** kirin` has joined #postfix[11:54:30] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[11:54:59] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[11:55:56] *** tobis has quit IRC[11:56:35] *** tobis has joined #postfix[11:56:35] *** tobis has joined #postfix[11:57:58] *** Quadro has joined #postfix[12:07:10] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[12:08:25] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[12:08:43] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[12:09:33] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[12:09:55] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[12:10:50] *** davlefou has quit IRC[12:11:10] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[12:11:18] *** mattcen has quit IRC[12:11:33] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[12:15:18] *** mattcen has joined #postfix[12:19:45] *** Tabstar has joined #postfix[12:25:35] *** Tabmow has quit IRC[12:28:56] *** patdk-wk has quit IRC[12:42:35] *** patdk-wk has joined #postfix[12:55:01] *** galex-713 has quit IRC[13:06:04] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[13:06:37] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[13:06:54] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[13:07:41] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[13:10:46] *** davlefou has quit IRC[13:33:33] *** _val_ has joined #postfix[13:36:16] <_val_> Hi guys and gals. Trying to find an email and the subject in particulair which was sent on 18th of this month.[13:36:42] <_val_> in the mail.log I can see when the mail is sent.. and to who, but can't find out what the subject was.[13:39:02] <Zerberus> the subject is not part of the logging[13:40:00] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[13:41:37] <_val_> Zerberus: true I noticed it. Though I thought somewhere in the 'sent' dir or anything.[13:58:42] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[14:02:07] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:05:28] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[14:08:15] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[14:11:57] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[14:19:57] *** davlefouAMD has joined #postfix[14:38:53] *** galex-713 has joined #postfix[14:41:00] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[14:42:37] *** snearch has joined #postfix[14:44:57] *** snearch has quit IRC[14:51:22] *** Niemi has quit IRC[14:54:48] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[14:57:46] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[14:59:25] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[15:02:26] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[15:05:57] *** Uranio has joined #postfix[15:06:14] *** maxter has quit IRC[15:06:34] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[15:08:58] *** maxter has joined #postfix[15:09:21] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[15:12:12] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[15:16:01] *** dylukes has joined #postfix[15:16:35] *** jgm__ has joined #postfix[15:17:31] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[15:45:48] *** dylukes has quit IRC[15:48:08] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[15:56:35] *** blami has joined #postfix[15:59:37] <blami> hi, I need to relay emails with specific From: address through different relay than relayhost. To do so I'm using header_checks FILTER rule. Is there any way to change also sender generic rewrite in this step?[16:00:06] <survietamine> generic_map ?[16:00:06] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[16:00:32] <survietamine> sorry, I meant "generic_maps"[16:00:36] <blami> survietamine: I'm using generic map already for default relay and outgoing adress is same[16:00:41] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[16:01:14] <blami> survietamine: I wonder if it is possible to somehow add condition 'if header From: matches something use different rewrite for user@localhost'[16:01:44] *** Pegasus_RPG has joined #postfix[16:03:23] <blami> survietamine: because in header_checks I am only able to detect this From: match and relay through different gateway, but generic_maps rewrite is default address (which is only valid for default relayhost)[16:09:16] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[16:11:22] *** fling has quit IRC[16:12:23] *** fling has joined #postfix[16:13:11] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[16:16:15] *** Takkun has joined #postfix[16:16:34] *** Takkun has left #postfix[16:17:02] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[16:18:31] *** KeiKun has joined #postfix[16:18:44] <KeiKun> !welcome[16:18:44] <knoba> KeiKun: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![16:20:30] <KeiKun> hmmm[16:23:38] *** todd_dsm has quit IRC[16:26:07] *** jduggan has quit IRC[16:35:38] *** tobis has left #postfix[16:35:51] <KeiKun> excuse me... if i have multiple domain.. how can i set it to my server?[16:36:56] <lunaphyte_> i don't understand the question[16:38:08] <blami> survietamine: ok pebkac. my problem can be solved in MUA (setting envelope directly and omitting header_checks hack)[16:38:21] <lunaphyte_> what does "set it to my server" actually mean?[16:38:32] <blueskin> KeiKun: you mean making postfix accept mail for more than one destination domain?[16:38:34] *** oo_miguel has joined #postfix[16:39:51] *** heller_barde has joined #postfix[16:40:12] <KeiKun> blueskin: yes[16:41:05] <lunaphyte_> that's all covered in the documentation.[16:41:15] <blueskin> !examples[16:41:15] <knoba> blueskin: "examples" : http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html[16:41:21] <blueskin> ^^[16:41:24] <lunaphyte_> if you've tried something and it didn't work, follow the instructions in the factoid for help.[16:41:26] *** patdk-wk has quit IRC[16:41:27] <KeiKun> okay gonna check about it[16:42:22] *** Quadro has quit IRC[16:44:12] *** patdk-wk has joined #postfix[16:44:59] <KeiKun> lunaphyte_: it seems that it doesn't work: myhostname = mail.example1.com, mail.example2.com[16:45:13] <lunaphyte_> who told you to put multiple values there?[16:45:25] <lunaphyte_> have you read the documentation?[16:45:42] <KeiKun> yes[16:46:00] <lunaphyte_> where in the documentation does it instruct doing that?[16:46:10] <KeiKun> My own hostname <=[16:46:14] <KeiKun> i looked at it[16:46:17] <KeiKun> and made it simple[16:46:56] <lunaphyte_> for further help, follow the instructions in the factoid.[16:47:14] *** heller_barde has quit IRC[16:47:47] *** Pegasus_RPG has left #postfix[16:48:03] <KeiKun> factoid...[16:48:17] <lunaphyte_> ?[16:48:26] <thumbs> !tell KeiKun welcome[16:48:26] <knoba> KeiKun: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![16:50:09] <KeiKun> !getting_help[16:50:09] <knoba> KeiKun: "getting_help" : before asking your question, provide a pastebin which includes relevant log data and your config. see !pastebin, !relevant_logs and !showconfig for instructions on doing this.[16:55:00] *** mm_ has joined #postfix[17:00:22] *** wdp has quit IRC[17:00:55] *** wdp has joined #postfix[17:00:56] *** wdp has joined #postfix[17:03:30] *** freezey has joined #postfix[17:05:06] *** Pegasus_RPG has joined #postfix[17:05:37] *** Pegasus_RPG has left #postfix[17:09:35] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[17:13:24] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[17:13:43] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[17:20:45] * jeev officially has an exchange server online processing emails now.[17:20:48] <jeev> now.. shoot me.[17:24:30] *** mm_ has quit IRC[17:26:12] * jelly shoots jeev with illegal drugs to make the pain go away[17:29:16] *** Lars_G has joined #postfix[17:29:18] <Lars_G> Hello.[17:30:33] <Lars_G> Trying to setup a ldap based email server, I gave up on guides on using cyrus so I'm setting it all up with postfix and dovecot from scratch, by hand.... first things first I have domain.com and domain.net and they should be equivalent. In the ldap directory I set fullname at domain dot com as mail, and fullname at domain dot net as an alias... I should better use alias methods for this, rather than virtual, right?[17:31:35] *** KeiKun_ has joined #postfix[17:34:48] *** KeiKun has quit IRC[17:38:40] <patdk-wk> do what?[17:38:48] <patdk-wk> what do aliases and virtual have to do with it?[17:39:08] <patdk-wk> you can't compare the two[17:39:18] *** KeiKun_ has left #postfix[17:39:34] <Lars_G> So the alias mechanism can't be used here?[17:39:43] <patdk-wk> who said that?[17:39:49] <Lars_G> for determinign valid email addresses and where (fs) to deliver them?[17:39:53] <patdk-wk> I said you can't compare alias vs virtual[17:40:08] <patdk-wk> !alias[17:40:08] <knoba> patdk-wk: "alias" : ITYM !alias_maps[17:40:11] <patdk-wk> heh[17:40:15] *** defaultro has joined #postfix[17:40:26] *** maxter has quit IRC[17:40:26] <patdk-wk> and you said your using ldap, so that means you HAVE to use virtual[17:40:43] <Lars_G> hmm[17:40:59] <patdk-wk> !virtual_aliases[17:40:59] <knoba> patdk-wk: Error: "virtual_aliases" is not a valid command.[17:41:01] <patdk-wk> !virtual_alias[17:41:01] <knoba> patdk-wk: "virtual_alias" : ... Mail loops back to myself means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains[17:42:04] *** freezey has quit IRC[17:42:21] <patdk-wk> bot hates me today[17:44:20] *** maxter has joined #postfix[17:44:49] *** freezey has joined #postfix[17:46:21] *** j_wright has quit IRC[17:52:37] *** hallamigo has joined #postfix[18:00:26] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[18:03:28] <lunaphyte_> hmm. how can i apply smtp_generic_maps selectively, only when the envelope recipient does not end with example.com?[18:05:55] *** Toerkeium has quit IRC[18:06:24] <lunaphyte_> check_recipient_access with a filter result maybe?[18:07:50] <lunaphyte_> seem like there might be a better method[18:07:52] <lunaphyte_> *seems[18:09:21] *** steven4455 has joined #postfix[18:11:26] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[18:13:12] <rob0> Use the "first match wins" feature. Precede your rewriting map with a non-rewriting map which matches @example.com addresses.[18:13:15] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[18:16:49] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[18:20:13] *** err-or has joined #postfix[18:21:22] *** jduggan_ has joined #postfix[18:22:12] <lunaphyte_> oh, hmm.[18:24:07] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[18:30:08] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[18:30:36] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[18:30:49] *** freezey has quit IRC[18:32:50] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[18:33:11] *** Lars_G has quit IRC[18:41:15] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[18:43:38] *** Kunda has joined #postfix[18:45:14] *** freezey has joined #postfix[18:45:57] <lunaphyte_> what if it's not just @example.com though?[18:46:27] <lunaphyte_> it's anything that ends with example.com - e.g. foo.example.com, bar.foo.example.com, etc.[18:46:43] <adaptr> !parent_domain_matches_subdomains[18:46:44] <knoba> adaptr: "parent_domain_matches_subdomains" : a configuration parameter in main.cf: What Postfix features match subdomains of domain.tld automatically, instead of requiring an explicit .domain.tld pattern. This is planned backwards compatibility: eventually, all Postfix features are expected to require explicit .domain.tld style patterns when you really want to match subdomains.[18:46:56] <adaptr> exploit the legacy backasswardness![18:47:06] *** hallamigo has quit IRC[18:47:07] <adaptr> bassawkward[18:47:14] <rob0> unset that and use the ".example.com" pattern[18:47:34] *** freezey has quit IRC[18:49:14] <lunaphyte_> where is valid syntax for generic documented? i don't see it in man 5 generic, or am i an idiot?[18:49:49] <adaptr> don't answer that[18:51:51] <rob0> hehe[18:52:33] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[18:54:32] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[18:54:51] <lunaphyte_> i know such a syntax is defined in man 5 access - but i see no reference to that anywhere in man 5 generic[19:08:15] *** jarif has quit IRC[19:09:53] *** s0ber has quit IRC[19:10:33] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[19:13:31] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[19:15:16] *** pav5088 has joined #postfix[19:17:28] *** amospalla has quit IRC[19:18:18] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[19:18:44] *** freezey has joined #postfix[19:19:05] *** ashura has joined #postfix[19:24:50] <pav5088> I'm having an issue with postfix/cyrus + ldap ... and secondary/alternate mail addresses.[19:25:13] <pav5088> The actual rejection is showing up here :[19:25:20] <pav5088> Oct 22 03:20:25 fusion cyrus/lmtpunix[4648]: verify_user(user.nickpavlichuk) failed: Mailbox does not exist[19:26:45] <pav5088> I was sending it to nickpavlichuk at mydomain dot com, but the real mailbox is nickp at mydomain dot com. postmap accepts the mail address fine.[19:27:17] *** freezey has quit IRC[19:28:43] <rob0> Your Postfix aliases(5) or virtual(5) alias maps should rewrite an alias address to one that the backend Cyrus considers valid.[19:37:11] *** mi has joined #postfix[19:38:52] *** freezey has joined #postfix[19:38:56] *** ashura has quit IRC[19:40:07] *** midnightmagic has quit IRC[19:41:26] <pav5088> rob0, postmap returns a valid mail name even if I use alternate addresses....[19:41:45] <pav5088> soooo... there's another step that is required somewhere?[19:49:57] *** Southron has joined #postfix[19:53:38] *** maxter has quit IRC[19:54:32] *** amospalla has joined #postfix[19:57:37] *** solomon has joined #postfix[19:58:45] *** amospalla has quit IRC[20:08:05] *** Uranio has quit IRC[20:09:56] *** sharky has joined #postfix[20:11:16] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[20:11:20] *** amospalla has joined #postfix[20:13:47] *** Uranio has joined #postfix[20:14:10] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[20:27:47] *** wdp has quit IRC[20:34:40] <solomon> we're using postfix 2.9.6; in previous versions (2.8.2 and before), postfix 'myhostname' properly resolved to the system's FQDN, and 'mydomain' resolved to the domain part of the fqdn. Now, 'mydomain' is 'localdomain', and 'myhostname' winds up as the short hostname plus .localdomain[20:34:55] *** nehaljwani has joined #postfix[20:35:04] <solomon> as far as i can tell from the documentation, that should be a bug, but i want to verify whether this isn't actually a new intentional behavior[20:35:39] <nehaljwani> How to rectify this? http://fpaste.org/48369/80525138/[20:36:06] <nehaljwani> I know, disabling sender address verification will solve this problem. But I want to add an exception to this address[20:54:33] *** mi has quit IRC[21:03:58] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[21:05:59] *** freezey has quit IRC[21:06:32] *** freezey has joined #postfix[21:10:45] *** freezey has quit IRC[21:12:54] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[21:14:37] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[21:16:33] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[21:17:56] *** master_o1_master has joined #postfix[21:18:27] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[21:21:18] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[21:21:34] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[21:24:44] *** freezey has joined #postfix[21:28:05] <wafflejock> n00b question here, I'm a web developer by trade and just learning the ropes on postfix so please bear with me. I have Comcast ISP and they block port 25, is there any way I can get postfix working locally without having an outside email server that's forwarding the messages? That is, if I configure TLS, will I just need the connection on port 465 or will the blocked port 25 still impede me?[21:28:16] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[21:29:43] <patdk-wk> you MUST have port 25[21:30:04] <wafflejock> ok thanks for saving me the effort there[21:30:26] <patdk-wk> but comcast doesn't block port 25[21:30:37] <wafflejock> http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/list-of-blocked-ports/[21:30:51] <wafflejock> I'm not on a business line[21:30:54] <patdk-wk> that is for residentual subscribers, not business[21:30:54] <wafflejock> just working from home[21:31:06] <patdk-wk> if you want to do business stuff, you need business service[21:31:12] <wafflejock> yeah I figured business it had to be open[21:31:22] <thumbs> serious business[21:31:26] <wafflejock> I'm not sure I can get business service here being a residence (apartment)[21:31:38] <thumbs> get a VPS then[21:31:50] <wafflejock> have one on AWS but they blocked me awaiting approval[21:32:04] <thumbs> then wait :)[21:32:06] <wafflejock> they let you send like 10 emails then let you know you have to fill in a form to not be seen as a spammer[21:32:08] <wafflejock> yup[21:32:10] <wafflejock> thx guys[21:32:12] <patdk-wk> aws doesn't like you doing email without using ses[21:32:35] *** TomHome has joined #postfix[21:39:56] <nehaljwani> Help me fixing this? http://fpaste.org/48369/80525138/[21:41:23] <patdk-wk> nice, a single log line[21:43:37] <nehaljwani> patdk-wk, basically, postfix is rejecting all emails sent by icpc at sakti dot amrita.ac.in[21:43:50] <patdk-wk> no[21:43:58] <patdk-wk> you failed to read the line[21:44:45] <nehaljwani> *err, I am new to postfix .. if you could point me what line?[21:44:58] <nehaljwani> patdk-wk, I know, disabling sender address verification will solve this problem. But I want to add an exception to this address[21:45:17] <patdk-wk> Sender address rejected: unverified address: connect to sakti.amrita.ac.in[121.243.61.87]:25: Connection timed out[21:45:37] <patdk-wk> what do you mean, add an exception?[21:45:49] <patdk-wk> it's not your server[21:46:20] <nehaljwani> patdk-wk, I don't want postfix to run sender verification for the domain sakti.amrita.ac.in[21:46:31] <patdk-wk> !tell nehaljwani welcome[21:46:31] <knoba> nehaljwani: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![21:46:37] <patdk-wk> !tell nehaljwani getting_help[21:46:37] <knoba> nehaljwani: "getting_help" : before asking your question, provide a pastebin which includes relevant log data and your config. see !pastebin, !relevant_logs and !showconfig for instructions on doing this.[21:47:06] <nehaljwani> !relevant_logs[21:47:06] <knoba> nehaljwani: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.[21:48:38] <nehaljwani> patdk-wk, As far as I understand, postfix tries to connect to the sender at port 25 .. but it is timing out on sakti.amrita.ac.in and I want to add that domain as an exception for sender address verification[21:48:51] *** defaultro has left #postfix[21:50:35] <nehaljwani> patdk-wk, http://fpaste.org/48391/13823850/[22:03:51] *** wafflejock has quit IRC[22:05:54] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:10:47] *** hallamigo has joined #postfix[22:12:15] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[22:12:30] *** UQlev has quit IRC[22:15:39] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[22:20:41] *** nehaljwani has left #postfix[22:34:20] *** Uranio has quit IRC[22:35:32] *** hallamigo has quit IRC[22:39:23] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[23:04:49] *** Pegasus_RPG has joined #postfix[23:05:27] *** sharky_ has joined #postfix[23:06:41] *** jarif has joined #postfix[23:08:38] *** sharky has quit IRC[23:12:44] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[23:15:36] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[23:16:03] *** akcx has quit IRC[23:17:16] *** robinho86 has left #postfix[23:18:52] *** Pegasus_RPG has left #postfix[23:20:45] *** freezey has quit IRC[23:25:10] *** ikonia has quit IRC[23:28:38] *** ikonia has joined #postfix[23:30:07] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[23:30:26] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[23:31:28] *** Kunda has left #postfix[23:37:44] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[23:44:55] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[23:46:57] *** Tabstar is now known as Tabmow