October 13, 2013 
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October 13, 2013 [00:00:33] *** Kunda has joined #postfix[00:09:00] <mishehu> yeah anything that needs to work for endusers is always going to be a pain :-)[00:09:00] *** dvl has joined #postfix[00:12:12][00:12:52] <adaptr> !smtp_tls_security_level[00:12:52] <knoba> adaptr: "smtp_tls_security_level" : The default SMTP TLS security level for the Postfix SMTP client; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtp_use_tls, smtp_enforce_tls, and smtp_tls_enforce_peername. Specify one of the following security levels: none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.[00:13:18] <adaptr> also, don't use 587 if this is private server-to-server traffic. use a port you choose for this.[00:13:26] <adaptr> 5587 would do[00:13:45] <dvl> adaptr: why is 587 not appropriate?[00:14:02] <adaptr> because it is already destined for a specific purpose[00:14:28] *** abyss has quit IRC[00:14:43] *** abyss has joined #postfix[00:15:32] <dvl> adaptr: Noted.[00:17:38] <dvl> adaptr: Yeah, that would make things very straight forward. All comms on 5587 will require TLS, accept connections only from clients with certs, etc. Very narrow set of parameters.[00:18:04] <dvl> Leave 587 only for my mail client to submit outgoing mail. Yeah.[00:18:08] <dvl> Thanks.[00:18:34] *** joobz has quit IRC[00:22:18] *** awaad has joined #postfix[00:22:54] *** joobz has joined #postfix[00:23:12] <awaad> What free good mail collaboration solutions available that support limiting number of mails sent per hour?[00:23:35] <adaptr> that's hardly a postfix question. google, I think.[00:25:47] <awaad> adaptr: I searched a lot and couldn't find good (free) solutions. Is there any other channel I can ask for this ?[00:32:07] *** jad_jay has joined #postfix[00:32:13] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[00:33:37] *** fudoreaper has quit IRC[00:43:17] <mishehu> awaad: do you want the collaboration software to limit the transmission of e-mails or you want postfix to do the limiting?[00:44:34] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[00:46:20] *** fudoreaper has joined #postfix[00:50:15] <awaad> mishehu: Any of them. I just need a web interface for administration and for sending & receiving mails + limiting number of mails sent[00:51:06] <mishehu> I don't know if anything like that exists for postfix. I'm pretty sure things like that exist for elm though.[00:51:17] <mishehu> at least I think tiwas elm that we were using[00:51:23] <mishehu> man I hate getting senile.[00:53:46] <rob0> You put de lime in de coconut and drink 'em bot' up.[00:58:17] <mishehu> you call your doctor, you woke him up...[01:02:42] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[01:08:08] *** NightTrain has quit IRC[01:09:15] *** NightTrain has joined #postfix[01:17:18] *** ced117 has quit IRC[01:24:20] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[01:36:14] *** jarif has quit IRC[01:36:52] *** FinboySlick has joined #postfix[01:38:29] *** maxter has quit IRC[01:39:41] <FinboySlick> A while back, someone mentioned a tool that could plug into postfix and provide granular restrictions such as banning an account that sent to more than x recipients in the last hour, etc. I remember looking into the configuration and finding it pretty nifty but can't recall the name now.[01:40:28] <pj> !tell FinboySlick policyd[01:40:28] <knoba> FinboySlick: "policyd" : http://www.policyd.org/ : an anti-spam Postfix policy daemon which can manage throttling of email and a variety of other things not handled by Postfix directly. Look for \"cluebringer\" in your OS package system.[01:40:46] <FinboySlick> pj: That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.[01:40:52] <pj> FinboySlick: yw :-)[01:41:14] <lunaphyte> !postfwd[01:41:14] <knoba> lunaphyte: "postfwd" : http://postfwd.org/ : A Postfix policy daemon to combine complex restrictions in a ruleset. See also http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html[01:42:07] <FinboySlick> lunaphyte: That's an interesting one too.[01:42:35] <FinboySlick> Will they both run custom scripts on trigger events?[01:44:58] <rob0> no, neither can do that AFAIK[01:45:19] <rob0> (maybe could be patched)[01:46:10] <lunaphyte> aye, capn'[01:55:06] *** Kunda has quit IRC[02:07:14] *** awaad has left #postfix[02:16:01] *** trusktr has quit IRC[02:18:37] *** joobz has quit IRC[02:21:18] *** jad_jay has quit IRC[02:51:42] <pj> FinboySlick: if you want to run a custom script then just write your own policy daemon, it's not that hard[02:51:48] <pj> !tell FinboySlick policy[02:51:48] <knoba> FinboySlick: "policy" : Postfix smtpd(8) policy protocol, http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html , for complex and intelligent restrictions[02:55:14] <FinboySlick> pj: Very interesting. I might do that too, especially since I have relatively basic needs.[02:55:59] *** master_o1_master has joined #postfix[02:59:38] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[03:00:15] *** akcx2 has quit IRC[03:00:49] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[03:14:36] *** akcx has joined #postfix[03:16:43] *** worstadmin has quit IRC[03:28:49] *** synapt has joined #postfix[03:29:09] *** MacWinner has quit IRC[03:36:55] *** FinboySlick has left #postfix[03:39:48] *** Bronze has joined #postfix[03:51:51] *** fudoreaper has quit IRC[04:06:35] *** jarif has joined #postfix[04:13:47] *** leprechau has quit IRC[04:38:20] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[04:56:16] *** MACscr has joined #postfix[05:08:33] *** evbogue has left #postfix[05:10:19] *** synapt has quit IRC[05:10:55] *** akcx has quit IRC[05:14:15] *** leprechau has joined #postfix[05:16:15] *** leprechau has quit IRC[05:20:33] *** leprechau has joined #postfix[05:22:16] *** jarif has quit IRC[05:32:11] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[05:36:33] *** Bronze has quit IRC[05:58:55] *** trusktr has joined #postfix[06:04:22] *** Bronze has joined #postfix[06:09:37] *** Dat has joined #postfix[06:30:36] *** UQlev has quit IRC[07:11:36] *** synapt has joined #postfix[07:11:36] *** synapt has joined #postfix[07:16:07] *** joobz has joined #postfix[08:08:20] *** xtetsuji has quit IRC[08:10:19] *** xtetsuji has joined #postfix[08:17:14] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[08:18:50] *** Bronze has quit IRC[08:45:09] <mishehu> so I've been reading about post queue filtering, and I was wondering if I should have dspamc output its results back to stdout (with the dspamc --stdout param). Or am I not fully understanding how this works, and once the mail hits my dspam handler from the master.cf, it it is now no longer in postfix and would need to be re-injected?[08:58:17] *** maxter has joined #postfix[09:06:54] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[09:08:14] *** aindilis2 has quit IRC[09:28:27] *** leprechau has quit IRC[09:29:24] *** leprechau has joined #postfix[09:44:10] *** nbg has quit IRC[09:51:29] *** err-or has quit IRC[09:52:06] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[09:53:36] *** err-or has joined #postfix[09:54:06] *** aindilis2 has joined #postfix[10:33:39] *** aindilis2 has quit IRC[10:33:54] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[10:37:05] *** davlefou has quit IRC[10:40:38] *** jelly has quit IRC[10:41:15] *** jelly has joined #postfix[10:59:43] *** jarif has joined #postfix[11:08:24] *** joobz has quit IRC[11:10:40] <MACscr> can i do a blacklist or whitelist entry only to a specific recipient?[11:11:14] <MACscr> actually, only to a particular domain would be best[11:13:22] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[11:33:08] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[11:34:14] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[11:36:08] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[11:37:37] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[11:44:49] *** wdp has joined #postfix[11:49:58] *** cite has quit IRC[11:54:50] *** castt has joined #postfix[11:56:03] *** cite has joined #postfix[11:58:07] *** castt has left #postfix[11:58:13] *** castt has joined #postfix[12:00:30] *** MariusKarthaus has joined #postfix[12:01:35] *** NameBrand has quit IRC[12:04:03] <MariusKarthaus> I'm trying to put a message in the HOLD queue but only if is was not received from localhost. To do this I'm trying to make the regex in header_checks conditional with IF/ENDIF. But i'm getting this error: expected format: key whitespace value[12:14:18] *** Quadro has joined #postfix[12:24:07] *** ced117 has quit IRC[12:27:24] <castt> I'm looking for someone to provide consultation who have experience working with high load MTA, being able to send about 1 million emails per day.[12:27:52] *** alexbst_ has joined #postfix[12:29:09] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[12:29:09] *** alexbst has quit IRC[12:30:07] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[12:31:12] *** Quadro has quit IRC[12:37:47] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[12:44:22] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[12:50:10] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[13:02:34] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[13:03:46] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[13:04:44] *** wdp has quit IRC[13:34:16] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[13:35:36] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[13:38:06] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[13:39:40] *** nbg has joined #postfix[13:41:26] *** cybrNaut has quit IRC[13:44:19] *** cybrNaut has joined #postfix[13:51:14] *** virtuaposta has joined #postfix[14:19:49] *** cybrNaut has quit IRC[14:19:49] *** cybrNaut has joined #postfix[14:24:35] *** gencha_ has quit IRC[14:28:54] *** gencha has joined #postfix[14:38:52] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[14:40:56] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[14:43:49] *** MariusKarthaus has quit IRC[14:45:15] *** A21BC has joined #postfix[14:50:50] *** geo27 has quit IRC[14:50:57] *** geo27 has joined #postfix[14:57:32] *** sniffell1 has quit IRC[15:19:40] *** jelly has quit IRC[15:21:02] *** jelly has joined #postfix[15:27:12] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[15:27:31] *** jelly has quit IRC[15:28:49] *** jelly has joined #postfix[15:30:29] *** wdp has joined #postfix[15:32:17] *** A21BC has quit IRC[15:38:51] *** jelly has quit IRC[15:38:53] *** davlefou has quit IRC[15:52:06] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[15:58:06] *** yezariaely is now known as Guest76588[15:58:34] *** yezariaely has joined #postfix[16:09:54] *** wjtaylor has joined #postfix[16:11:11] <yezariaely> postfix expands my emailadresses and I don't understand why. I have a virtual alias table with an entry mail@domain mail and mail gets extended to mail@myhostname and I don't understand why.[16:11:47] <yezariaely> (about to prepare pastebin)[16:14:14] <yezariaely> postconf -n: http://pastebin.com/a2WKL49g[16:14:14] <yezariaely> cat mailman_alias_maps: http://pastebin.com/xWXpezP3[16:14:15] <yezariaely> error message: http://pastebin.com/KDsSb0mX[16:14:36] <yezariaely> In my aliases there is an entry jumus: "|..." but it does not get that far. Any ideas?[16:16:52] <rob0> !append_at_myorigin[16:16:52] <knoba> rob0: "append_at_myorigin" : Append the string"@$myorigin" to mail addresses without domain information. WARNING: do not change this without understanding what it means, see http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#append_at_myorigin[16:17:21] <rob0> Virtual alias maps do not allow piping to commands.[16:18:15] <yezariaely> rob0: ah, ok. Thanks, I'll give that a short.[16:19:45] <yezariaely> so the main problem seems to be that the domain mentioned in myorigin is a virtual domain as well?[16:19:54] <jelly-home> I suppose that's exactly why the virtual map rewrites to a domainless address, so that local(8) would take over. Might be a better idea to rewrite to jumus@localhost (or something else in mydestination) explicitely[16:19:58] <Dat> I have one mta server in the event that it goes down what can I do to keep the mail from bouncing?[16:20:17] <yezariaely> jelly-home: that is just what I am about to try :)[16:20:20] <rob0> Maybe. I don't have time to look at multiple pastes.[16:20:40] <rob0> Why do people think 3 pastebins are better than one?[16:20:42] <yezariaely> so would it be better to have a single paste next time?[16:20:46] <jelly-home> YES[16:20:47] <yezariaely> ok, sorry :/[16:20:48] <rob0> bye[16:22:26] <jelly-home> having a Debian style myorigin = /etc/mailname also hides a bit of useful information[16:29:41] <yezariaely> jelly-home: so is $myhostname better, here?[16:30:30] <jelly-home> where?[16:30:39] <yezariaely> to be used as value for myorigin[16:30:53] <yezariaely> (the content is the same in my case)[16:33:32] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[16:36:51] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[16:37:26] <jelly-home> if the same thing is present in mydestination, then yes, that might work[16:40:33] *** davlefou has quit IRC[16:51:24] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[16:58:48] *** jashank has quit IRC[16:59:18] *** virtuaposta has quit IRC[16:59:34] *** jashank has joined #postfix[17:05:57] *** Bronze has joined #postfix[17:36:01] *** Dasoren has quit IRC[17:36:15] <dvl> After reading up on smtp_tls_security_level, I'm thinking smtp_tls_policy_maps is more appropriate to my needs. These servers will also be sending to servers outside my network. But I want all servers within my net to be communicating with each other via TLS.[17:37:15] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[17:37:47] *** freaky[t] has quit IRC[17:38:08] *** Dasoren has joined #postfix[17:40:08] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[17:40:22] *** wjtaylor has quit IRC[17:41:13] <lunaphyte> is smtp_tls_security_level not working?[17:46:11] *** freaky[t] has joined #postfix[17:46:29] *** Dasoren has quit IRC[17:47:03] <dvl> lunaphyte: I have not tried smtp_tls_security_level yet. I am still reading up on the options. I thought smtp_tls_security_level would apply to all comms with all servers, and I would not be able to specify that comms with THESE servers, A, B, C, D, must be TLS.[17:47:10] <dvl> lunaphyte: Did I read incorrectly?[17:48:01] <dvl> lunaphyte: I guess the easiest way to explain what I wait: My pool of servers (a..d) should communicate within themselves via TLS, but not necessarily TLS with other servers outside that pool.[17:48:58] <dvl> It seems that a combination of transport and smtp_tls_policy_maps would achieve that. Transport would indicate use port 5587 (for example) and smtp_tls_policy_maps would say use TLS[17:49:34] <lunaphyte> you don't need to do that.[17:49:40] <lunaphyte> simply offer encryption.[17:49:46] <lunaphyte> if a server can use it, it will[17:49:57] <lunaphyte> other things just become unnecessary complication[17:51:22] *** xtetsuji has quit IRC[17:52:01] <adaptr> dvl: smtp_tls_security_level is also an smtp service parameter. I thought you understood that you should be using a SEPARATE smtp service for inter-server communication[17:52:11] <adaptr> so yuo can specify a different setting[17:52:43] <adaptr> (i.e. requiring encryption is feasible and probably advisable here)[17:52:47] <dvl> adaptr: by 'SEPARATE smtp service', that's port 5587, is that what that means? If so, yes.[17:52:51] <adaptr> no[17:52:54] <dvl> oh...[17:53:04] <adaptr> a separate service. if you don't understand what that means, read master(5) until you do[17:53:10] *** xtetsuji has joined #postfix[17:53:29] <dvl> adaptr: I was putting those changes in master.cf, but I'll read up.[17:53:56] *** DrFoo has joined #postfix[17:54:00] <DrFoo> test[17:54:02] <adaptr> a thorough understanding of master(5) is a prerequisite for this[17:54:08] <adaptr> DrFoo: fail.[17:54:13] <DrFoo> ")[18:00:28] <dvl> adaptr: Not sure how thorough my understanding is, but I think I understand it. master.cf can be used to specify what services will be running. So far, so good?[18:00:47] <dvl> In my case, a custom server, with particular parameters specific to my needs.[18:00:50] <freaky[t]> hi all. i keep getting the following error and i dont know what service it is: Oct 13 17:57:37 baby postfix/cleanup[8970]: warning: connect to Milter service inet:127.0.0.1:12768: Connection refused[18:01:10] <freaky[t]> i upgraded from squeezy to wheezy[18:01:49] <Patrickdk> that is simple[18:01:52] <Patrickdk> fix 127.0.0.1:12768 service[18:02:10] <freaky[t]> yea what is the service[18:02:12] <freaky[t]> what service is it[18:02:31] <freaky[t]> can it be spamassassin[18:03:13] <Patrickdk> it's not my server, how the hell should I know?[18:03:22] <freaky[t]> yea but i dont know[18:03:24] <freaky[t]> can it be clamav[18:03:27] <Patrickdk> it's your server[18:03:31] <freaky[t]> but clamav and spamassassin restart without problems[18:03:35] <Patrickdk> if you don't know, well[18:03:37] <Patrickdk> hire someone[18:03:53] <freaky[t]> omg what should i do[18:04:10] <Patrickdk> go back to, how to use unix, 101[18:04:15] <Patrickdk> and figure out your answer[18:04:25] <Patrickdk> or hire someone that can do it, and give them access[18:06:25] <freaky[t]> what are smtp milters[18:06:28] <freaky[t]> can u give examples?[18:06:45] <Patrickdk> !milter[18:06:45] <knoba> Patrickdk: "milter" : Postfix support for Sendmail milters: http://www.postfix.org/MILTER_README.html[18:07:03] <yezariaely> freaky[t]: what are questions should be solved using google...[18:11:19][18:18:58] *** tuxick has quit IRC[18:19:19] <freaky[t]> ok its working again. plesk postfix wasnt installed[18:20:14] <Patrickdk> plesk?[18:20:54] <thumbs> sigh[18:21:04] <freaky[t]> :D[18:22:11] <freaky[t]> lol the EICAR email virus testfile. as soon as i try to send a mail, it gets deleted and it says i should check tmp directory settings[18:22:23] <freaky[t]> can anyone send me the EICAR test signature: X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H* <-- to my email address?[18:23:47] <freaky[t]> anyone? :D[18:27:23] *** leprechau has quit IRC[18:28:02] <thumbs> freaky[t]: why can't you do that yourself?[18:30:33] *** leprechau has joined #postfix[18:32:49] <freaky[t]> i did[18:33:00] <freaky[t]> using my isps webmail[18:35:41] <Patrickdk> atleat now we know your isp has no issues with sending out viruses to people[18:36:02] <freaky[t]> nah it has virus protection[18:36:10] <freaky[t]> i get virus mails put into a folder[18:36:10] <thumbs> huh huh[18:36:44] <Patrickdk> that would be incoming[18:37:15] <Patrickdk> I can't send that test signature, cause it would be rejected[18:41:04] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[18:51:00] *** robinho86 has quit IRC[18:53:38] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[19:09:30] *** tuxick has joined #postfix[19:13:17] *** hparker has quit IRC[19:38:09] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[19:41:29] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[19:43:26] *** NightTrain has quit IRC[19:45:43] *** wdp has quit IRC[19:46:15] *** maxter has quit IRC[19:46:16] *** wdp has joined #postfix[19:48:20] *** yezariaely has quit IRC[20:16:41] *** causasui has quit IRC[20:38:48] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[20:41:02] <dvl> Partial success this afternoon. I was able to get server A to talk to server B via TLS. But server B to server A, no TLS yet. Time to stop this for today..[20:41:26] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[20:44:36] <dvl> On, I was wrong. I see 'Trusted TLS connection established from' messages on both servers. Server A didn't have the same value for smtpd_tls_loglevel as server B.[20:44:39] <dvl> So.. good results![20:46:57] <dvl> The above was testing via 'openssl s_client -connect'. But plain old postfix gets Error: No client certificate presented[20:49:42] *** ced117 has quit IRC[21:14:06] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[21:14:12] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[21:22:06] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[21:31:58] <pj> !tell dvl smtpd_tls_ask_ccert[21:31:58] <knoba> pj: Error: No factoid matches that key.[21:32:01] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[21:32:17] <pj> meh, dvl: look up smtpd_tls_ask_ccert and smtpd_tls_req_ccert[21:32:32] <pj> !tell dvl postconf_5[21:32:33] <knoba> dvl: "postconf_5" : For documentation on all main.cf settings see the postconf(5) man page either type `man 5 postconf' into your shell or browse to http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html.[21:32:50] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[21:36:05] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[21:39:10] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[21:39:39] *** ced117 has quit IRC[21:41:23] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[21:42:38] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[21:43:28] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[21:48:45] *** jelly has joined #postfix[21:53:08] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[21:59:23] <pj> !smtpd_tls_req_ccert[21:59:23] <knoba> pj: Error: "smtpd_tls_req_ccert" is not a valid command.[22:00:18] <synapt> Pj: What's the issue?[22:00:33] <synapt> oh, trying to point him to the proper thing[22:00:34] <synapt> nevermind[22:01:07] <pj> the issue is he has one, or probably both of those set and they shouldnt' be[22:02:54] <pj> !learn smtpd_tls_ask_ccert as Ask a remote SMTP client for a client certificate. This information is needed for certificate based mail relaying. This is *NOT* required to implement TLS and if you should probably not be setting this.[22:03:07] <pj> !smtpd_tls_ask_ccert[22:03:07] <knoba> pj: "smtpd_tls_ask_ccert" : Ask a remote SMTP client for a client certificate. This information is needed for certificate based mail relaying. This is *NOT* required to implement TLS and if you should probably not be setting this.[22:03:36] <honestly> seems like something's missing.[22:03:43] * synapt remembers he has to figure out why his TLS Cert auth w/ thunderbird stopped working after he rebuilt his distro[22:05:05] <pj> !learn smtpd_tls_req_ccert as With mandatory TLS encryption, require a trusted remote SMTP client certificate in order to allow TLS connections to proceed. This is *NOT* required to implement TLS and you should probably not be setting this.[22:05:17] <pj> !forget smtpd_tls_ask_ccert[22:05:28] <pj> !learn smtpd_tls_ask_ccert as Ask a remote SMTP client for a client certificate. This information is needed for certificate based mail relaying. This is *NOT* required to implement TLS and you should probably not be setting this.[22:05:35] <pj> !smtpd_tls_ask_ccert[22:05:35] <knoba> pj: "smtpd_tls_ask_ccert" : Ask a remote SMTP client for a client certificate. This information is needed for certificate based mail relaying. This is *NOT* required to implement TLS and you should probably not be setting this.[22:05:51] <pj> !smtpd_tls_req_ccert[22:05:51] <knoba> pj: "smtpd_tls_req_ccert" : With mandatory TLS encryption, require a trusted remote SMTP client certificate in order to allow TLS connections to proceed. This is *NOT* required to implement TLS and you should probably not be setting this.[22:06:10] <pj> there we go.[22:06:10] *** wizbit has joined #postfix[22:06:19] <wizbit> how do you clear a deferred mail que?[22:06:52] <pj> !tell wizbit postsuper[22:06:52] <knoba> wizbit: "postsuper" : the queue supervision tool for postfix. Use it with the option "-d" to remove mails from the queue. See 'man postsuper' for more information.[22:06:56] <rob0> First, fix the problem that caused the deferrals. Then, see "flush" in "man postfix".[22:07:27] <wizbit> ace[22:08:18] <wizbit> how can i find out the que id ?[22:08:25] <pj> there seems to have been a rash of people lately who want to reject messages that are being deferred and that should be deferred.[22:08:43] <pj> wizbit: do you know why those messages were deferred to begin with?[22:08:44] <wizbit> pj: we are lamers :d[22:09:00] <wizbit> pj: yes, i have cancelled a domain name[22:09:13] <wizbit> but mail is still being bounced around my system[22:09:58] <pj> well, if you canceled the domain then why would that cause a deferral?[22:10:06] <pj> oh, nm[22:10:22] <pj> people in your org are sending mail to the old domain?[22:16:39] <wizbit> actually my dns records were wrong[22:16:43] <wizbit> just corrected them :D[22:16:49] <pj> uh huh[22:32:27] <DrFoo> Am I understanding this correctly? If I use VDA patch it will only quota the whole maildir (all users) or just the users inbox (not other folders)?[22:33:40] *** s0ber has quit IRC[22:35:15] *** Hydrazine has quit IRC[22:35:22] *** s0ber has joined #postfix[22:38:59] <rob0> DrFoo, I/we don't use, recommend nor support any patches here.[22:39:56] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[22:39:59] <DrFoo> Is there a recommended way of implementing quotas per mailbox?[22:40:43] <rob0> I would look at using Dovecot 2.2's built-in quota policy service.[22:41:13] <DrFoo> Dovecot works with postfix or replaces it?[22:42:14] <rob0> You'll also need to study about mail basics, to know what each part does.[22:42:17] <rob0> !mta[22:42:17] <knoba> rob0: "mta" : Mail Transfer Agent: software that facilitates the transfer of mail messages between hosts[22:42:23] <rob0> !postfix[22:42:23] <knoba> rob0: "postfix" : The Postfix MTA from http://www.postfix.org/. If you have no idea what Postfix is then you have probably chosen the wrong channel. :)[22:42:28] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[22:42:31] <rob0> !dovecot[22:42:31] <knoba> rob0: "dovecot" : http://www.dovecot.org/ : IMAP/POP3 server software with emphasis on security; recent versions can also provide SASL AUTH for Postfix 2.3+.[22:42:32] <DrFoo> rob0: I hear you. Thanks![22:43:31] <rob0> I am talking about a new feature of Dovecot, which operates a Postfix policy service.[22:43:35] <rob0> !policy[22:43:35] <knoba> rob0: "policy" : Postfix smtpd(8) policy protocol, http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html , for complex and intelligent restrictions[22:45:33] <castt> I'm looking for someone who can provide consultation who have experience working with high load MTA, being able to send about 1 million emails per day.[23:02:35] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[23:22:55] *** monkwitdafunk has joined #postfix[23:25:22] *** causasui has joined #postfix[23:27:08] *** tld has quit IRC[23:34:11] *** steven4455 has quit IRC[23:37:51] *** trusktr has quit IRC[23:39:23] *** steven4455 has joined #postfix[23:40:02] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[23:42:52] <cite> One million is not that much. A day has 86400 seconds. Go figure.[23:43:47] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[23:44:15] <adaptr> that's OVER 9000!![23:47:13] <cite> omfg. No you, too![23:47:18] <cite> +t[23:51:49] *** Hydrazine has joined #postfix[23:54:33] *** adaptr is now known as gohadaptr[23:54:39] *** gohadaptr is now known as adaptr[23:57:10] <Patrickdk> :)[23:58:05] <adaptr> it didn't take long for 9000 to turn into millions FWIW[23:58:22] <adaptr> inflation happens even in mystical fantasy worlds[23:58:43] <adaptr> (not unlike banking... ba-da-bum)