October 2, 2013 
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October 2, 2013 [00:03:26] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[00:03:52] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[00:05:35] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[00:05:55] *** freezey has quit IRC[00:09:35] *** freezey has joined #postfix[00:19:54] *** Zelest has joined #postfix[00:22:29] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[00:25:08] *** davlefou has quit IRC[00:34:36] *** mattcen has quit IRC[00:36:51] *** mattcen has joined #postfix[00:39:49] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[01:04:48] *** gregor3005 has left #postfix[01:08:38] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[01:20:45] *** freakynl has quit IRC[01:36:57] *** zerick has quit IRC[01:45:24] *** hallamigo has quit IRC[01:50:28] *** Motoko has quit IRC[02:00:44] *** pajamian has joined #postfix[02:02:13] *** pj has quit IRC[02:03:49] *** n0sq has joined #postfix[02:14:55] *** johnnynobody has joined #postfix[02:15:19] *** johnnynobody has quit IRC[02:17:08] *** johnnynobody has joined #postfix[02:17:50] *** johnnynobody has quit IRC[02:18:08] *** johnnynobody has joined #postfix[02:18:56] *** johnnynobody has quit IRC[02:25:24] *** n0sq_ has joined #postfix[02:25:26] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[02:29:23] *** xorred has quit IRC[02:32:50] *** n0sq is now known as Guest1726[02:34:33] *** n0sq_ has quit IRC[02:34:35] *** freezey has quit IRC[02:34:53] *** n0sq_ has joined #postfix[02:35:43] *** n0sq_ has quit IRC[02:35:54] *** twb has joined #postfix[02:36:08] *** n0sq_ has joined #postfix[02:36:30] *** n0sq_ has quit IRC[02:41:18] *** Guest1726 has quit IRC[02:41:46] *** johnnynobody has joined #postfix[02:51:01] *** freezey has joined #postfix[02:53:10] *** freezey has quit IRC[02:59:06] *** pj-phone has joined #postfix[03:03:39] *** pj-phone has quit IRC[03:04:16] *** pj-phone has joined #postfix[03:04:18] *** terr1 has quit IRC[03:04:23] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[03:05:10] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[03:06:12] *** causasui has joined #postfix[03:07:40] *** terr1 has joined #postfix[03:08:50] *** exos_ has joined #postfix[03:11:09] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[03:11:55] *** exos has quit IRC[03:14:30] *** pj-phone has quit IRC[03:17:55] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[03:18:32] *** pj-phone has joined #postfix[03:23:46] *** pj-phone has quit IRC[03:24:08] *** pj-phone has joined #postfix[03:28:21] *** pj-phone has quit IRC[03:30:26] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[03:31:41] *** exos has joined #postfix[03:32:10] *** exos_ has quit IRC[03:33:33] *** pj-phone has joined #postfix[03:40:33] *** pj-phone has quit IRC[03:54:44] *** pajamian is now known as pj[03:57:58] *** n0sq has joined #postfix[04:12:25] *** err-or_ has joined #postfix[04:12:29] *** err-or has quit IRC[04:43:47] *** pj-phone has joined #postfix[04:57:15] *** n0sq has quit IRC[05:04:13] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[05:05:04] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[05:07:19] *** NightTrain has quit IRC[05:20:55] *** pj-phone2 has joined #postfix[05:23:06] *** Zelest has quit IRC[05:24:11] *** pj-phone has quit IRC[05:24:38] *** pj-phone2 has quit IRC[05:29:28] *** staticsafe-znc has quit IRC[05:30:59] *** staticsafe-znc has joined #postfix[05:36:37] *** freezey has joined #postfix[05:47:56] *** Patrickdk has joined #postfix[06:00:07] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[06:00:37] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[06:39:20] *** freezey has quit IRC[06:50:38] *** joules has joined #postfix[06:51:21] <joules> hi, any tips of referring to virtual_mailbox_domains in a file or lookup? Its just a list so attr/value is expected for postmap.[06:54:55] <joules> ahh[07:22:51] <joules> I'm providing an value "*", which is ignored...if I had a database pl lookup function like "SELECT mydomains('%s');" I suppose I should return NULL rather than a boolean?[07:24:35] *** Zelest has joined #postfix[07:32:52] *** stram has joined #postfix[07:33:19] <stram> i have a recipient access file, for using REJECT to reject emails based on sender email address. is there a way to reject all .edu email addresses in this file?[07:35:57] <rob0> joules, no, I don't think a NULL return works. But anything else would. The return value is ignored.[07:38:34] <rob0> NULL probably tells the SQL client that the lookup failed, or so I'd expect. "result_format=1", this works.[07:43:15] <stram> oh wait, i was supposed to be using my sender access file, one sec... still testing[07:55:29] *** Bronze has quit IRC[07:57:06] <stram> yeah, just putting "edu" as the first field does it[08:03:28] <joules> rob0: as long as NULL is a fail, that would be ok (and expected). But I'm not sure how the sql backend handles booleans. like check_domain() that returns a true or false.[08:09:01] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[08:19:49] *** steven4455 has quit IRC[08:21:06] <joules> stram: you want to reject supersmart at professor dot edu ?[08:21:13] <joules> *shrug*[08:21:45] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[08:26:44] *** xorred has joined #postfix[08:44:07] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[08:46:32] *** exos_ has joined #postfix[08:47:10] *** exos has quit IRC[08:55:45] *** wdp has joined #postfix[08:55:45] *** wdp has joined #postfix[08:57:56] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[08:59:45] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[08:59:46] *** cyrilz_ has joined #postfix[09:01:25] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[09:02:24] *** rotbeard has quit IRC[09:08:21] *** maxter has joined #postfix[09:14:03] <stram> joules: sort of, my reject message just says to use my .edu email address, i don't want them emailing me at home anymore[09:15:05] *** Yulth has joined #postfix[09:15:40] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[09:17:53] *** kiri has joined #postfix[09:23:07] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[09:26:31] *** Cerise has joined #postfix[09:28:49] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[09:29:50] *** kiri has quit IRC[09:29:52] *** davlefou has quit IRC[09:33:36] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[09:41:11] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[09:43:02] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[09:47:31] *** UQlev has quit IRC[09:54:44] *** kiri has joined #postfix[09:58:46] *** kiri has quit IRC[10:03:34] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[10:06:09] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[10:11:11] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[10:13:26] *** kiri has joined #postfix[10:24:07] *** Lidwa has quit IRC[10:24:49] *** bungalo has joined #postfix[10:25:22] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:25:26] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:25:28] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:25:31] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:25:36] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:25:38] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:25:39] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:25:40] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:25:42] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:25:43] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:25:46] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:25:49] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:25:52] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:25:56] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:25:58] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:26:00] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:26:02] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:26:06] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:26:08] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:26:10] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:26:12] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:26:14] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:26:16] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:26:19] *** ^BullShark^ has joined #postfix[10:26:22] *** ^BullShark^ has left #postfix[10:26:27] <Zelest> ...[10:27:15] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[10:30:14] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[10:30:26] *** davlefou has quit IRC[10:30:32] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[10:33:23] *** danfromuk has joined #postfix[10:37:49] *** twb has quit IRC[10:55:10] *** gpd has joined #postfix[10:55:25] <gpd> anyone reporting problems with postfix hash files getting corrupted repeatedly? I keep having to run postmap to fix[10:56:05] <gpd> on ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS[10:58:22] *** ahuggablewalrus has joined #postfix[10:58:51] <ahuggablewalrus> Hi, I'm trying to run Postfix+Dovecot+MySQL to make a small e-mail server.[10:59:00] <ahuggablewalrus> Followed the guide here: https://library.linode.com/email/postfix/postfix2.9.6-dovecot2.0.19-mysql[10:59:27] <ahuggablewalrus> But for some reason, my Ubuntu 12.04 x64 install doesn't have SASL authentication installed in private/auth.[10:59:39] <ahuggablewalrus> Anyone have any idea if there is a terminal command that wil help me locate it?[10:59:54] <ahuggablewalrus> Error message: Oct 2 08:54:07 liaokev postfix/smtpd[1680]: warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth-client failed: No such file or directory Oct 2 08:54:07 liaokev postfix/smtpd[1680]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms Oct 2 08:54:08 liaokev postfix/master[830]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 1680 exit status 1 Oct 2 08:54:08 liaokev postfix/master[830]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command st[11:00:44] <ahuggablewalrus> Sorry. Wrong error message: Oct 2 08:54:07 liaokev postfix/smtpd[1680]: warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth failed: No such file or directory Oct 2 08:54:07 liaokev postfix/smtpd[1680]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms Oct 2 08:54:08 liaokev postfix/master[830]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 1680 exit status 1 Oct 2 08:54:08 liaokev postfix/master[830]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad comm[11:00:56] <tuxick> !paste[11:00:56] <knoba> tuxick: "paste" : do not paste more than 2 lines in the channel. A pastebin is a way to share larger amounts of data with others, without flooding the channel with garbage. try http://pastebin.com or http://paste.debian.net (or use google and find your own). don't forget to tell us the url where you pasted the text[11:01:10] <tuxick> heh, that's a flood in itself :)[11:08:07] <ahuggablewalrus> Sorry. Wrong error message: Oct 2 08:54:07 liaokev postfix/smtpd[1680]: warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth failed: No such file or directory Oct 2 08:54:07 liaokev postfix/smtpd[1680]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms Oct 2 08:54:08 liaokev postfix/master[830]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 1680 exit status 1 Oct 2 08:54:08 liaokev postfix/master[830]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad comm[11:08:14] <ahuggablewalrus> woops! sorry again.[11:08:22] <ahuggablewalrus> http://pastebin.com/tznecReK[11:08:23] <ahuggablewalrus> Here.[11:08:26] <ahuggablewalrus> That's my mail.log[11:11:12] <ahuggablewalrus> Any Ubuntu users here know where I would find private/auth?[11:12:32] <failure> lol[11:16:58] <jelly> when failure smiles[11:18:27] <failure> exactly![11:21:48] *** danfromuk has quit IRC[11:27:42] *** kiri has quit IRC[11:28:37] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[11:35:51] *** kiri has joined #postfix[11:44:26] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[11:45:06] <trurl> ahuggablewalrus: /var/spool/postfix/private/auth[11:47:26] *** Tarius has joined #postfix[11:47:53] *** Tarius has left #postfix[11:53:38] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[11:53:51] *** JamieH has quit IRC[12:00:58] *** Dessa_ is now known as Dessa[12:04:45] *** p3rror has quit IRC[12:07:55] *** Elish4 has quit IRC[12:10:14] *** exos has joined #postfix[12:12:49] *** exos_ has quit IRC[12:16:56] *** _ruben_ is now known as _ruben[12:19:35] *** madduck_ is now known as madduck[12:20:08] *** ghoti has quit IRC[12:20:17] *** ghoti has joined #postfix[12:22:26] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[12:22:46] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[12:31:10] *** davlefou has quit IRC[12:37:35] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[12:43:03] *** nickfennell has joined #postfix[12:44:50] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[12:47:30] *** kiri has quit IRC[12:50:22] *** UQlev has quit IRC[12:50:23] *** danfromuk has joined #postfix[13:05:56] *** Bigsista has joined #postfix[13:07:18] <Bigsista> hi. in a virtual domain setup... is it possible to setup post like this: if user at mydomain dot com not found local deliver via smtp-smarthost?[13:07:31] <Bigsista> s/post/postfix[13:08:24] <Bigsista> like a fallback delivery strategy for a single domain?[13:28:37] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[13:29:08] *** davlefou has quit IRC[13:33:56] *** patdk-wk_ has quit IRC[13:38:44] *** ghoti_ has joined #postfix[13:49:08] *** danfromuk has quit IRC[13:54:37] *** Bronze has joined #postfix[13:55:17] *** Alagar has quit IRC[14:02:31] *** cyrilz_ has quit IRC[14:03:07] *** cyrilz_ has joined #postfix[14:07:54] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:14:51] *** JamieH has joined #postfix[14:15:41] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[14:16:04] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[14:24:39] *** kiri has joined #postfix[14:25:46] *** patdk-wk has joined #postfix[14:29:06] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[14:32:30] *** davlefou has quit IRC[14:33:35] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[14:33:57] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[14:46:21] *** sandvige has joined #postfix[15:10:58] *** robinho86 has quit IRC[15:27:00] *** worstadmin has quit IRC[15:29:35] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[15:32:43] *** davlefou has quit IRC[15:33:21] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[15:33:29] *** robinho86 has quit IRC[15:36:10] *** worstadmin has joined #postfix[15:37:01] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[16:00:20] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[16:00:46] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[16:08:21] *** CaptFrito has quit IRC[16:12:18] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[16:13:29] *** girl-sexy has joined #postfix[16:15:36] *** girl-sexy has quit IRC[16:17:16] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[16:18:30] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[16:18:40] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[16:21:34] *** davlefouAMD has joined #postfix[16:31:01] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[16:33:18] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[16:33:41] *** freezey has joined #postfix[16:41:08] *** clijunkie has joined #postfix[16:42:23] *** moparisthebest has joined #postfix[16:44:29] <moparisthebest> anyone else getting a bunch of dmarc reports from microsoft with no reports? ie, 0 records[16:46:35] *** UQlev has quit IRC[16:47:09] *** clijunkie has left #postfix[16:54:03] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[16:55:31] *** CaptFrito has joined #postfix[16:56:43] *** nbg has joined #postfix[16:57:23] *** buki_ is now known as buki[17:00:12] *** pj has quit IRC[17:02:47] *** master_o1_master has joined #postfix[17:06:13] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[17:11:11] *** j_wright has quit IRC[17:11:26] *** exos_ has joined #postfix[17:11:49] *** j_wright has joined #postfix[17:13:40] *** steven4455 has joined #postfix[17:14:11] *** exos has quit IRC[17:16:31] *** bungalo has quit IRC[17:17:03] *** pj has joined #postfix[17:20:14] *** ChrisWi has joined #postfix[17:22:54] <ChrisWi> Hi all, having a problem with my postfix. I have several virtual domains and almost all a worling fine beside one email adress.[17:24:33] <lunaphyte_> !tell ChrisWi getting_help[17:24:33] <knoba> ChrisWi: "getting_help" : before asking your question, provide a pastebin which includes relevant log data and your config. see !pastebin, !relevant_logs and !showconfig for instructions on doing this.[17:25:47] <ChrisWi> it is 'chris (at) computersalat (dot) de' which I am using for mailing lists. And now my problem. Since some time several mails are not delivered to 'chris computersalat de' cause my postfix wants to deliver to 'chris (at) myhostname.mydomain'[17:30:14] <ChrisWi> knoba: here some config info: http://pastie.org/8372422[17:30:31] <ChrisWi> when you need more info please tell me[17:30:33] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[17:31:04] <ChrisWi> :q[17:31:49] <lunaphyte_> i'd read the factoid shared with you and do as it instructs.[17:31:57] <lunaphyte_> otherwise you'll probably just be ignored.[17:32:48] <ChrisWi> !pastebin[17:32:48] <knoba> ChrisWi: "pastebin" : (#1) see !paste, or (#2) a pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, or pastebin.ca. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[17:33:07] <ChrisWi> !relevant_logs[17:33:07] <knoba> ChrisWi: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.[17:33:32] *** cilly has joined #postfix[17:33:37] <ChrisWi> !showconfig[17:33:38] <knoba> ChrisWi: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[17:33:45] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[17:39:02] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[17:40:31] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[17:46:04] *** cilly has left #postfix[17:46:42] <ChrisWi> lunaphyte_: http://paste.opensuse.org/29725202[17:46:55] <ChrisWi> hope this info is enough[17:54:35] *** freezey has quit IRC[17:58:22] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[18:10:02] *** freezey has joined #postfix[18:12:18] *** cyrilz_ has quit IRC[18:13:54] *** galex-713 has quit IRC[18:14:27] *** ahuggablewalrus has quit IRC[18:18:49] *** galex-713 has joined #postfix[18:19:00] *** hallamigo has joined #postfix[18:22:40] *** olegfusion has joined #postfix[18:24:58] *** sandvige has quit IRC[18:28:18] *** ffiore has quit IRC[18:30:10] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[18:30:43] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[18:31:10] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[18:34:09] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[18:39:57] *** fudoreaper has quit IRC[18:43:54] *** PerlWebDev has joined #postfix[18:46:49] *** freezey has quit IRC[18:52:07] <PerlWebDev> interesting little issue. I use MIME::Lite for sending emails and I'm noticing that the "From:" line seems to be getting altered after the message is sent to postfix. It is fed "Name <address>", but what arrives in my inbox shows "Na <me address>". Basically part of the name (which is really just a copy of the email address) is put inside the <> before the email address.[18:52:19] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[18:53:54] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[19:03:33] *** Pegasus_RPG has joined #postfix[19:04:16] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[19:05:07] *** nickfennell has quit IRC[19:10:26] *** wdp has quit IRC[19:17:26] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[19:19:06] <adaptr> PerlWebDev: that would be correct. the RFC mandates that friendly names with whitespace must be quoted.[19:22:09] <rob0> tharkun, are you back yet?[19:22:22] *** wdp has joined #postfix[19:31:39] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[19:33:16] *** steven4455 has quit IRC[19:35:07] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[19:36:41] <PerlWebDev> adaptr: but it is breaking the From. Notice that part of the name ended up inside with the email address.[19:37:25] <PerlWebDev> granted, it only seems to happen when the Name contains the @ character so far (since we use the email address as the name).[19:38:19] <PerlWebDev> so, Mime::Lite shows "example at example dot com <example at example dot com>" and what arrives is "example@ <example.com example at example dot com>"[19:40:04] <patdk-wk> sounds like a perl issue[19:40:07] <patdk-wk> why bother postfix?[19:42:14] <PerlWebDev> as near as I can tell it leaves the perl code in the correct way. Goes to postfix for sending and arrives looking odd.[19:42:47] <patdk-wk> you confirmed this how? using tcpdump?[19:42:53] <patdk-wk> using hold?[19:43:05] *** cilly has joined #postfix[19:43:34] <PerlWebDev> dumping my perl object just before the send shows the From: is right.[19:43:50] *** jelly has quit IRC[19:43:51] <PerlWebDev> hence asking here if anyone has seen this.[19:44:10] <patdk-wk> that means nothing[19:44:21] *** jelly has joined #postfix[19:47:06] *** freezey has joined #postfix[19:48:39] *** cilly has left #postfix[19:54:21] *** twobithacker has quit IRC[19:55:07] *** twobithacker has joined #postfix[19:55:26] *** freezey has quit IRC[19:59:49] *** silvio_ has quit IRC[20:02:07] <PerlWebDev> so, paused the queue. Message shows the right text in the paused queue. Take the queue off hold and send the mail off and it arrives with a bad From.[20:19:42] *** wdp has quit IRC[20:31:38] <waldi> doTNLpWO[20:31:40] <waldi> doTNLpWO[20:32:57] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[20:34:20] <waldi> fuck[20:35:17] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[20:40:07] *** Bigsista has quit IRC[20:40:59] *** galex-713 has quit IRC[20:44:01] *** Bigsista has joined #postfix[20:47:53] <jimpop> lol[20:48:13] * jimpop goes to try doTNLpW1[20:48:45] *** exos has joined #postfix[20:49:09] *** wdp has joined #postfix[20:49:09] *** wdp has joined #postfix[20:50:29] *** GNU\colossus has joined #postfix[20:51:26] *** exos_ has quit IRC[20:51:30] <GNU\colossus> is there a way to make a transport in master.cf look up a recipient address (as found in ${user}) to an UNIX username that it was aliased to in /etc/aliases?[20:51:45] <GNU\colossus> s/look up/resolve[20:52:35] <rob0> um, maybe you want "man 8 pipe", but you'd probably do better by sharing the high-level goal.[20:53:16] <wdp> heya rob0[20:54:50] <rob0> o/[20:55:18] *** freezey has joined #postfix[20:56:27] <GNU\colossus> rob0, I set up a transport that needs to have the UNIX username of a final recipient's user on the command line. ${user} will end up as the local part of the rcpt address however, which doesn't correspond to the UNIX username in my case.[20:57:15] <waldi> GNU\colossus: man 8 local[20:57:20] <waldi> man .foward[20:59:05] <GNU\colossus> waldi, is local still considered if I specify a third-party (dovecot's) LDA as my mailbox_command in main.cf?[20:59:09] *** thelamest has quit IRC[20:59:19] <rob0> there's no man page for .forward, but it's covered in aliases(5) and local(8)[21:04:39] *** galex-713 has joined #postfix[21:05:46] *** MacWinner has quit IRC[21:06:35] *** thelamest has joined #postfix[21:10:32] *** steven4455 has joined #postfix[21:14:51] <waldi> GNU\colossus: you just ovverdies mailbox_command with .forward[21:15:10] <waldi> GNU\colossus: but if you use dovecot, use sieve[21:18:42] *** Hexagenic has joined #postfix[21:23:47] *** Bigsista has quit IRC[21:28:18] *** Bigsista has joined #postfix[21:32:42] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[21:35:14] <Corey> Hmm, tharkun is on the road today. We should hilight him in more channels.[21:35:26] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[21:43:23] *** Pegasus_RPG has quit IRC[21:44:18] <adaptr> jeebus no. he's flapping like fuck when he's on a landline! it'll be insanitee now[21:48:04] *** pav5088_ has left #postfix[21:58:36] *** olegfusion has quit IRC[22:00:31] *** freezey has quit IRC[22:02:48] *** winux has joined #postfix[22:05:15] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[22:05:41] <winux> hello.. i set virtual_transport=dovecot but my log file still shows relay=local.. i also added the necessary lines in master.cf .. anyone know why its changing its relay?[22:05:50] <winux> its not changing*[22:06:14] <pickcoder> virtual maps are required to know what mail to send through the virtual_transport[22:06:16] <pickcoder> need more info[22:08:44] <adaptr> winux: why did yuo set dovecot as your virtual transport ? do you know ? do you have a solid technical reason for it ?[22:10:13] <adaptr> just FYI, using dovecot as a virtual transport does not require changes to master.cf.[22:10:54] <rob0_> sure it does, it needs a transport definition named "dovecot"[22:11:31] <adaptr> ... unless that exists as an LMTP socket in /private or /public.[22:11:42] <winux> adaptr: yeah.. i need it to serve as an IMAP server that I can access with the thunderbird mail client[22:11:49] <rob0_> how would it be there without a change to master.cf?[22:11:50] <winux> rob0_: yeah thats what i have it set to[22:11:52] <adaptr> winux: that has nothing to do with postfix.[22:12:04] <adaptr> rob0_: um. *dovecot* puts the socket there.[22:12:15] *** freezey has joined #postfix[22:12:30] <adaptr> oh, you mean for delivery. yeah, no clue how I did that[22:12:34] <adaptr> it's all a blur[22:12:48] <winux> adaptr: right, im answering your question. my original question is regarding why its relaying to local when i set it to dovecot[22:12:54] <adaptr> anyway, not hearing a reason.[22:12:56] <rob0_> ablurptr[22:13:01] <adaptr> abruptr[22:13:09] <adaptr> abortr[22:13:18] <adaptr> adoptr[22:13:19] <rob0_> pickcodtr[22:13:23] <adaptr> I need more nicks[22:14:10] <adaptr> !tell winux address_classes[22:14:10] <knoba> winux: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.[22:14:10] <pickcoder> rob0_tr[22:14:19] <adaptr> oh no he di'int[22:14:26] <GNU\colossus> so, I finally pulled it off. migrated from local delivery via mailbox_command to a proper LMTP setup[22:14:44] <GNU\colossus> now, the strange permission problems with dspam are gone for good[22:15:04] <adaptr> dspam has horrible permission problems. and even worse documentation[22:15:07] <GNU\colossus> too bad the program still segfaults while processing the .css file it generated from the learning corpus...[22:15:30] <pickcoder> shhhh... dspam is prolly watching. you might -upset- it..[22:15:30] <adaptr> heh. that's probably a different reason.[22:15:37] <adaptr> GNU\colossus: how large[22:15:46] <GNU\colossus> adaptr, tiny. <10M[22:15:59] <adaptr> yeah, that isn't it.[22:16:09] <adaptr> which version ?[22:16:27] <GNU\colossus> DSPAM Anti-Spam Suite 3.10.1 (agent/library)[22:16:30] <GNU\colossus> from Debian Wheezy[22:16:43] <adaptr> yeah, that's current. they haven't updated that in 3 years[22:17:04] <adaptr> it's pretty much abandonware at this point. no wonder too if you ever looked at the code...[22:17:26] <GNU\colossus> can you recommend a sane alternative?[22:17:34] <GNU\colossus> I was very satisfied with its detection rates[22:18:20] <adaptr> I have used it for over a year now, straight in-line all LMTP. I'm happy with it. just not with dspam, that took me weeks to unfuck.[22:18:33] <adaptr> everything else is, alas, worse.[22:19:13] <GNU\colossus> the unfucking process of dspam in a forking setup, wrapping dovecot-deliver, can only be way, way worse. something in the chain behaves differently as soon as strace is involved[22:19:20] <pickcoder> amavisd-new and spamassassin with current rules[22:19:34] <GNU\colossus> I ended up writing a wrapper around dspam that ptraces the process for it to work...[22:21:07] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:21:40] <adaptr> pickcoder: hate 'em[22:21:57] <adaptr> GNU\colossus: noted. I now just let it do its thing and retrain manually once a month or so.[22:22:05] <adaptr> tl;dr and all that[22:22:13] <GNU\colossus> I'll try to track down what causes dspam to die tomorrow, when I'm at work[22:22:29] <adaptr> have you seen the debug log yet ? ;) useless piece of shit.[22:22:45] <adaptr> there's exactly the same useless crap in it WEHTEHR DEBUG IS ON OR NOT[22:22:50] <thumbs> adaptr loves dspam[22:22:51] <GNU\colossus> I expect that I'll have to resort to gdb anyway[22:22:59] <adaptr> and none of it actually tells you what is going on[22:23:22] <adaptr> thumbs: I love it. but it is close to the worst maintained and documented piece of software I have yet encountered.[22:24:06] *** freezey has quit IRC[22:24:10] <pickcoder> thumbs: I'm sending you a free case of Debian install DVDs..[22:25:22] <thumbs> pickcoder: I hate you[22:25:25] <thumbs> haha[22:25:44] <rob0_> what a thoughtful gift[22:26:00] <adaptr> pickcoder: I have a box of windows 95 promo disks with your name on it.[22:26:40] <rob0_> 5.5" floppies[22:27:09] <adaptr> I hope you mean 5.25, since those will fit in my disk drive[22:27:20] <rob0_> oh, I forgot[22:27:21] <adaptr> I could do 8" in a pinch[22:28:32] <rob0_> we actually did get W95 install 5.25" disks. There was no charge, just ask MS for them.[22:30:00] *** freezey has joined #postfix[22:33:03] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[22:35:11] *** rob0 has quit IRC[22:35:43] <pickcoder> :D[22:36:16] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[22:37:24] *** rob0_ is now known as rob0[22:39:17] <Patrickdk> hmm, I just have the cd and floopy disks[22:39:40] <adaptr> TMI[22:39:44] <Patrickdk> should have windows 2.0 somewhere around here[22:40:02] <pickcoder> I have IBM DOS 3.0 in the original hard case and binder[22:40:05] <pickcoder> and it does boot still[22:40:26] <Patrickdk> no good, that is too old to have emm386 :)[22:42:44] *** freezey has quit IRC[22:47:45] <pickcoder> my C64 can beat up your Atari...[22:53:50] *** maxter has quit IRC[23:05:51] <GNU\colossus> couldn't resist and started my debugging efforts right away[23:06:05] <GNU\colossus> doesn't look good though, I'll have to dig way deeper it seems *sigh*[23:06:41] <adaptr> have a look at the code. come on, it won't hurt. much.[23:08:07] <GNU\colossus> I am looking at it right now ;)[23:09:46] *** MacWinner has joined #postfix[23:11:43] <GNU\colossus> funny _what_ they actually decided to comment[23:12:53] *** ced117 has quit IRC[23:13:23] *** worstadmin has quit IRC[23:16:29] *** wdp has quit IRC[23:19:40] <GNU\colossus> adaptr, do you use libhash_drv.so as your storage engine?[23:20:10] <adaptr> sure. mine is 150M, and performs adequately[23:20:20] <adaptr> no need for anything bigger really[23:20:32] <GNU\colossus> yeah, performance isn't much of a concern for my setup[23:20:37] <adaptr> one advantage of *sql would be distribution[23:20:47] <adaptr> say yuo have multiple dspam boxes hitting one db[23:20:49] <GNU\colossus> the problem seems to lie there; I might trythe sqlite backend instead[23:21:00] <adaptr> sigh. just use hash. least problems.[23:21:13] <adaptr> get it working first :)[23:21:22] <GNU\colossus> it's the hash lib that makes dspam segfault with my data[23:21:30] <GNU\colossus> and all its tools[23:21:34] <GNU\colossus> cssclean et al.[23:22:31] <adaptr> did you build dspam yourself ?[23:22:36] <GNU\colossus> nope[23:22:37] <adaptr> I would try that first[23:22:47] <adaptr> tehre's some stuff in the docs about hash lib versions[23:22:51] <adaptr> best to avoid:)[23:23:07] *** worstadmin has joined #postfix[23:27:33] *** h3m5k has quit IRC[23:27:50] *** h3m5k has joined #postfix[23:28:55] *** nbg has quit IRC[23:28:57] *** dylukes has joined #postfix[23:29:52] <GNU\colossus> nice; with sqlite, it segfaults without any user data ever hitting the disk[23:30:12] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[23:30:33] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[23:33:42] *** h3m5k has quit IRC[23:35:39] *** sharky has quit IRC[23:36:31] *** davlefou__ has quit IRC[23:36:34] *** sharky has joined #postfix[23:36:35] <GNU\colossus> yuck.[23:42:10] *** freezey has joined #postfix[23:43:10] *** Elisha has joined #postfix[23:43:21] *** dylukes has quit IRC[23:43:56] *** freezey has quit IRC[23:46:07] *** h3m5k has joined #postfix[23:46:58] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[23:50:35] *** davlefou__ has joined #postfix[23:55:43] <pickcoder> sqlitefault