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[01:37:32] <tpmccallum> Can I get some advice on how to run Polymer without using the Python Simple Server command? I am now using an Ubuntu Server 14 VM in the cloud and do not have the priviledge of using localost in the browser
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[02:49:54] <tpmccallum> Is it best to select all (amd, es6, globals, node, yui) when asked "what types of modules does this package expose" I don't understand what the question is asking. I am using nodejs if that is what the question is reffering to.
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[03:03:46] <github> [polymer] sorvell pushed 1 new commit to 0.8-preview: http://git.io/WAi2nw
[03:03:46] <github> polymer/0.8-preview fb97ff0 Steve Orvell: more efficient structured object implementation; this is an interim approach; the next step is creating properties for paths.
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[08:52:29] <hareth> hey!
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[10:46:45] <github> [polymer] BrianGeppert opened pull request #970: Use possessive "its" (0.8-preview...0.8-preview) http://git.io/PWhBtQ
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[12:52:22] <github> [polymer] addyosmani pushed 2 new commits to 0.8-preview: http://git.io/5GAZIQ
[12:52:22] <github> polymer/0.8-preview 0707989 Brian Geppert: Use possessive "its"...
[12:52:22] <github> polymer/0.8-preview 36dd5ee Addy Osmani: Merge pull request #970 from BrianGeppert/0.8-preview...
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[14:09:22] <efdee> i'm new to polymer and looking for a decent routing component. i've looked at app-router but i see that it's only top-level routes (eg. changing route redraws the entire page). i'm looking for a way to do nested routing while only replacing certain components (eg. leave the navigation pane intact). any suggestions?
[14:12:45] <LoveAndHappiness> hi efdee
[14:13:45] <efdee> hi there
[14:16:08] <efdee> seems like i was wrong, i can just nest the <app-route> element inside other elements
[14:16:27] <efdee> *<app-router>
[14:17:58] <efdee> now if only i could nest different routers that would be dandy
[14:20:02] <LoveAndHappiness> is this app-route element new?
[14:20:03] <LoveAndHappiness> never heard of it
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[14:20:13] <efdee> https://erikringsmuth.github.io/app-router/
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[14:31:38] <LoveAndHappiness> efdee, so it's not official yet...
[14:33:11] <efdee> it's just a component written by someone outside the polymer team i guess
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[18:37:40] <efdee> are there any debugging tools specific for polymer?
[18:37:52] <efdee> i'm using chrome devtools but i'm getting pretty much zero info whenever something goes wrong
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[19:35:42] <tgaz> efdee, not afaik.
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[19:35:53] <Pomax> efdee: no info at all, or just "error on line 1" that you can't use
[19:37:46] <efdee> no info at all
[19:38:00] <efdee> usually it boils down to me forgetting to import an element or something stupid like that
[19:38:09] <efdee> but they can be pretty hard to pin down
[19:46:02] <tgaz> yes, the silent treatment of unregistered elements is annoying.
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[20:01:27] <Pomax> sounds like something worth filing on the issue tracker as a feature request
[20:01:47] <Pomax> https://github.com/Polymer/polymer/issues
[20:02:44] <tgaz> yes. i was just experimenting with having a polymer-ready handler looking for :unresolved. doesn't seem to cross shadow roots, though.
[20:03:00] <tgaz> and /deep/ doesn't seem to work in querySelector
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[20:10:17] <tgaz> filed https://github.com/Polymer/polymer/issues/972
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[20:29:54] <Pomax> tgaz: pretty sure /deep/ *can't* work in a queryselector
[20:30:05] <Pomax> you can't queryselect your way into the shadow dom
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[20:31:31] <Pomax> if you need to manipulate bits from inside a custom element, that custom element should have an API to do that instead.
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[20:32:38] <Pomax> like document.querySelector("my-element:nth-child(10)").markFavourite(), where markFavourite, as part of the custom element's prototype, has full access to the internals and can set whatever it needs to set, plus do whatever else it needs to do.
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[21:11:48] <efdee> is there a place where i can find the events for a given element?
[21:11:54] <efdee> eg. <core-icon-button>
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[21:18:17] <Pomax> https://www.polymer-project.org/docs/elements -> elements tab on the left
[21:18:25] <Pomax> oops, https://www.polymer-project.org/docs/elements/
[21:18:42] <Pomax> because for some reason the site writers forgot to make it resolve without / at the end...
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