November 24, 2014 
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November 24, 2014 [00:10:01] *** germ13 has quit IRC[00:14:41] *** mven has joined #polymer[00:14:52] *** mven has quit IRC[00:43:20] *** dc_ has joined #polymer[01:05:29] *** gaminator has joined #polymer[01:05:46] <gaminator> hi, I was hoping someone could help me with an error that I am getting[01:09:48] *** gert has joined #polymer[01:10:23] <gert> https://github.com/Polymer/polymer/issues/959[01:11:13] <gert> I want to have a shot at this to convince you a attribute should not be used as a namespace :)[01:11:48] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[01:12:47] *** jarek has quit IRC[01:15:12] <gaminator> does anyone know if there is any documentation on how and where "on-tap" can be used within a tag?[01:16:50] *** rigor789 is now known as rigor789|away[01:18:25] <gert> I am a noob myself but i would say every where in a polymer template and it takes a binding {{dospmting}} or function[01:18:57] <gert> on-tap={{dosomthing}}[01:19:14] <gaminator> do you need to have on-tap="{{something}}"[01:19:24] <gaminator> or on-tap={{something}}[01:19:40] <grizzm0> ""[01:20:04] <gert> on-tap="{{something}}"[01:20:09] <gaminator> ty very much! and must it always be used in a template or can I use it anytime?[01:21:34] <gert> your console wil complain if it does not know on-tap :)[01:23:12] <gert> but all polymer stuff is in a template anyway[01:23:23] <gert> most of the time :)[01:23:44] <gaminator> one last question please :) -- could I do on-tap="console.log('test');"[01:23:57] <gaminator> use a function not a binding[01:28:46] <gert> dont remember for sure but yes[01:31:59] <gert> https://www.polymer-project.org/docs/start/tutorial/step-4.html example[02:06:21] <gaminator> ty very much for your help![02:35:31] *** pex has quit IRC[02:35:53] *** pex has joined #polymer[02:40:36] *** pex has quit IRC[02:42:08] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[02:53:56] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[03:00:42] *** gert has quit IRC[03:26:19] <dandv1> Is there a Polymer Paper grid component? Or actually, what prevents a Datatables.net or SlickGrid from being wrapped as a WebComponent? What would Polymer add to that anyway?[03:36:28] *** pex has joined #polymer[03:41:21] *** pex has quit IRC[03:44:52] *** dc_ has quit IRC[03:53:16] *** dc_ has joined #polymer[04:13:50] *** sudobangbang has quit IRC[04:14:50] *** sudobangbang has joined #polymer[04:18:32] *** hareth has joined #polymer[04:30:13] *** hareth has quit IRC[04:33:36] *** diegocerdan has joined #polymer[04:35:46] *** edrocks has joined #polymer[04:35:51] *** edrocks has quit IRC[04:36:44] <diegocerdan> I have a core-menu with a numerical selected attribute. I need to translate it to a string to be an attribute in parent element. <my-parent gender="MALE"></my-parent> What would be the polymeristic way of doing it?[04:37:07] <diegocerdan> Would poymer expressions suit the case?[04:38:08] *** pex has joined #polymer[04:43:39] *** pex has quit IRC[04:56:00] *** tmlbl has quit IRC[04:57:58] *** tmlbl has joined #polymer[05:17:50] *** Pomax has joined #polymer[05:17:53] *** Pomax has quit IRC[05:25:12] *** germ13 has joined #polymer[05:36:29] *** gert has joined #polymer[05:37:14] *** gert has quit IRC[05:40:14] *** pex has joined #polymer[05:45:57] *** pex has quit IRC[06:16:30] *** gert has joined #polymer[06:41:57] *** pex has joined #polymer[06:47:54] *** pex has quit IRC[07:23:48] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[07:25:57] *** germ13 has quit IRC[07:27:30] *** Rastus_Vernon has quit IRC[07:42:13] *** martianboy has joined #polymer[07:42:48] *** lfryc has joined #polymer[07:42:49] *** lfryc has joined #polymer[07:43:47] *** lfryc has quit 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works fine. however, calling 'this.parentNode.hidden = false' from the elements shadow-dom does nothing. how would I unhide a parent-node?[13:43:39] *** mxmxmx has joined #polymer[13:46:51] *** Guest21879 has quit IRC[13:48:02] *** ionelmc has joined #polymer[13:48:49] *** erwamartin has joined #polymer[14:03:19] *** jlebrech has quit IRC[14:06:48] *** darktears has quit IRC[14:07:11] *** darktears has joined #polymer[14:12:01] *** LoveAndHappiness has joined #polymer[14:14:01] *** martianboy has quit IRC[14:19:41] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[14:22:45] *** hareth has quit IRC[14:23:24] *** lfryc|lnch is now known as lfryc[14:23:50] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[14:23:52] *** CaptainCalliope has quit IRC[14:23:52] *** jkomoros_____ has quit IRC[14:24:07] *** nickjohnson has quit IRC[14:24:23] *** bergie has quit IRC[14:24:27] *** CaptainCalliope has joined #polymer[14:24:39] *** kirjs______ has quit IRC[14:24:42] *** AmandaC has quit IRC[14:24:46] *** esprehn has quit IRC[14:24:46] 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*** eseidel_ has joined #polymer[14:27:07] *** _pdr_gardener_ has joined #polymer[14:27:08] *** jkomoros_____ has joined #polymer[14:27:22] *** machty_ has joined #polymer[14:27:36] *** esprehn_ has joined #polymer[14:27:40] *** machty_ is now known as machty[14:28:22] *** hayato__ has joined #polymer[14:28:22] *** bterlson_ is now known as bterlson[14:28:31] *** jlebrech has joined #polymer[14:29:38] *** veonik is now known as veonik_[14:30:56] *** hareth has joined #polymer[14:39:58] *** maciejpaprocki has quit IRC[14:47:49] *** veonik_ is now known as veonik[14:51:21] *** maciejpaprocki has joined #polymer[14:55:14] *** knownasilya has joined #polymer[15:05:21] *** charlenopires has joined #polymer[15:06:43] *** LoveAndHappiness has quit IRC[15:27:41] *** daveyjoe has joined #polymer[15:30:02] <daveyjoe> In web components is there a state of ‘resolved’ for when a component has finished loading? For example, I don’t want the component to display (or be ‘resolved’) until one of it’s images is finished loading.[15:31:43] <tgaz> daveyjoe, http://www.w3.org/TR/custom-elements/#unresolved-element-pseudoclass[15:32:33] *** alho has joined #polymer[15:32:41] <tgaz> i don't know if that's enough, or what the platform support is.[15:34:33] <daveyjoe> tgaz: thanks, how do I prevent an element from being marked as resolved?[15:34:41] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[15:35:29] *** mven has joined #polymer[15:35:40] <tgaz> daveyjoe, i don't think you do, but i guess you can use the trick used in body, where an attribute or class is used, and you manually remove it.[15:36:00] <tgaz> err. Polymer's <body unresolved> thing.[15:36:44] <tgaz> i.e. https://www.polymer-project.org/docs/polymer/styling.html#fouc-prevention[15:39:18] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[15:41:59] <daveyjoe> tgaz: That looks like what I need but I can’t figure out how to delay resoloution of the component.[15:42:46] <daveyjoe> I presume there’s away to mark the component as resolved manually, I just can’t find it.[15:42:55] <daveyjoe> * a way[15:45:00] <daveyjoe> Like you said I could create my own custom attribute for doing this, but reusing the existing resolved functionality seems like the correct way of doing it.[15:47:34] <tgaz> that doesn't look possible.[15:47:36] <tgaz> https://github.com/Polymer/polymer-dev/blob/3435eeebc46a0b2bb498563acdb8df36a1482ea0/src/instance/base.js#L160[15:47:52] <tgaz> body tag removed here: https://github.com/Polymer/polymer-dev/blob/584d899dadc2f12af97b1dd60953924b848ebcf8/src/declaration/polymer-element.js#L128[15:48:20] <tgaz> the actual hider is injected by https://github.com/Polymer/polymer-dev/blob/b35d794651afeec16be8093a746a44b07ce9af51/src/system/unresolved.js[15:51:06] <daveyjoe> But that only removes the attribute from the body, I want to control it on my custom element only[15:52:18] <daveyjoe> Ah, I see now. Ignore my last comment[16:06:38] *** erwamartin has quit IRC[16:07:24] *** charlenopires has quit IRC[16:08:46] *** erwamartin has joined #polymer[16:11:05] *** stevewirts has joined #polymer[16:21:33] *** yezariael has quit IRC[16:23:14] <daveyjoe> Thanks for your help tgaz, I’ll go with a custom attribute for now. Do you think it’s worth creating an issue for manually handling resolving of components or do you think that this is by design?[16:25:50] *** daveyjoe has quit IRC[16:26:05] *** Phloxx has joined #polymer[16:26:11] *** daveyjoe has joined #polymer[16:27:48] <stevewirts> is anybody seeing this error for simple extends of a polymer-element[16:27:51] <stevewirts> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'nom' of null[16:28:13] <stevewirts> from the this.super() call in the sub-element[16:34:12] *** olavnymoen has quit IRC[16:35:44] *** ddadlani has joined #polymer[16:46:05] *** GarethAdams has quit IRC[16:47:07] *** GarethAdams has joined #polymer[17:21:43] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[17:35:13] *** _pdr_gardener_ is now known as pdr[17:36:07] *** pdr has quit IRC[17:36:08] *** pdr has joined #polymer[17:37:22] *** Schtive has joined #polymer[17:44:50] *** sourcecube has quit IRC[17:47:11] *** github has joined #polymer[17:47:11] <github> [polymer] sorvell pushed 1 new commit to 0.8-preview: http://git.io/InyW2g[17:47:11] <github> polymer/0.8-preview c7f6c58 Steve Orvell: ready: some renaming for simplification.[17:47:11] *** github has left #polymer[17:52:43] *** LoveAndHappiness has joined #polymer[17:54:40] *** wprater has joined #polymer[17:55:03] *** hareth has quit IRC[17:58:22] *** hareth has joined #polymer[18:01:52] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[18:05:14] *** erwamartin has quit IRC[18:11:47] *** daveyjoe_ has joined #polymer[18:11:49] *** daveyjoe has quit IRC[18:11:49] *** daveyjoe_ is now known as daveyjoe[18:15:42] *** stevewirts has quit IRC[18:17:45] *** stevewirts has joined #polymer[18:20:33] *** hareth has quit IRC[18:25:39] *** alho has quit IRC[18:28:20] *** lfryc has quit IRC[18:30:31] *** daveyjoe has quit IRC[18:40:18] *** jlebrech has quit IRC[18:45:01] *** stevewirts has quit IRC[18:46:08] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[18:51:54] *** maciejpaprocki has quit IRC[18:52:53] *** stevewirts has joined #polymer[19:00:41] *** alho has joined #polymer[19:04:11] *** dandv1 has quit IRC[19:04:22] *** manuelbieh has quit IRC[19:04:24] *** shiftins has joined #polymer[19:16:59] *** skift has joined #polymer[19:17:40] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[19:19:41] *** stevewirts has quit IRC[19:27:11] *** stevewirts has joined #polymer[19:27:47] *** olavnymoen has joined #polymer[19:28:17] *** shiftins has quit IRC[19:28:24] *** manuelbieh has joined #polymer[19:31:34] *** shiftins has joined #polymer[19:32:56] *** mxmxmx has quit IRC[19:37:10] *** PaoloRotolo has joined #polymer[19:40:16] *** shiftins has quit IRC[19:48:23] *** LoveAndHappiness has quit IRC[19:49:07] *** mxmxmx has joined #polymer[19:50:10] *** albeec13 has joined #polymer[19:51:40] *** PaoloRotolo has quit IRC[19:51:57] *** Schtive has quit IRC[19:52:08] <albeec13> anybody around who could explain core-overlay usage?[19:54:16] *** ryst has joined #polymer[19:55:40] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[19:59:01] <ryst> join #angular.js[20:00:12] <tmlbl> Anyone using polymer at work? We have been experimenting for the past week and encountered a few roadblocks, but have decided to move forward[20:00:31] *** veonik is now known as veonik_[20:03:24] *** shiftins has joined #polymer[20:03:55] *** wilsonpage has quit IRC[20:06:13] <tgaz> tmlbl, yes, but only for internal tools[20:07:35] <albeec13> i'm working on some personal sites with polymer[20:08:00] <albeec13> but i'm having a lot of trouble understanding how to utilize core-overlay or paper-dialog[20:08:57] <tmlbl> we are having trouble in several areas... spent all weekend chasing iphone compatibility issues[20:09:47] <tmlbl> we are also concerned about performance. with just a simple scaffold and 6 - 8 custom elements we are making ~100 http requests on page load it seems[20:10:49] <tgaz> you want to use vulcanize for production[20:11:14] <tgaz> i haven't tried mobile dev yet, so sorry, can't help there.[20:11:50] <tmlbl> tgaz: excellent... was hoping something like this existed[20:12:00] *** rigor789|away is now known as rigor789[20:13:10] <tmlbl> the iphone issue turned out to be a ready callback firing before a hidden element was present on the DOM. no error present on desktop/android. just wondering if anyone else has encountered similar issues[20:13:45] *** hareth has joined #polymer[20:15:58] *** Zer000 has joined #polymer[20:18:25] *** ryst has quit IRC[20:20:28] *** erwamartin has joined #polymer[20:21:04] *** daveyjoe has joined #polymer[20:27:41] *** Schtive has joined #polymer[20:30:52] *** daveyjoe has quit IRC[20:35:49] *** tmlbl has quit IRC[20:36:22] *** veonik_ is now known as veonik[20:36:57] *** albeec13 has left #polymer[20:41:20] *** github has joined #polymer[20:41:20] <github> [polymer] sorvell pushed 1 new commit to 0.8-preview: http://git.io/p94K9Q[20:41:20] <github> polymer/0.8-preview 80cac0a Steve Orvell: Add a `ready` lifecycle method. It is called once after creation and is ordered from parent/host to child.[20:41:20] *** github has left #polymer[20:41:31] *** tmlbl has joined #polymer[20:50:51] *** erwamartin has quit IRC[20:53:06] *** erwamartin has joined #polymer[20:54:38] *** germ13 has joined #polymer[21:01:49] *** ryst has joined #polymer[21:05:06] *** falteckz has joined #polymer[21:07:41] <falteckz> What element is actually selected when using :host() from inside a polymer element?[21:08:12] <falteckz> I'm wanting to apply a style to my element, IF a host has the attribute focused. So for the selector I've used[21:08:42] <falteckz> :host([focused]) input::-webkit-input-placeholder[21:09:08] <falteckz> I had expected that when any parent was focused that I could then style my input in the element, I've also tried /deep/, no luck.[21:12:24] *** ryst has quit IRC[21:17:50] *** wprater has quit IRC[21:18:20] *** jenc has joined #polymer[21:19:38] *** caitp has joined #polymer[21:24:57] *** erwamartin has quit IRC[21:25:44] *** erwamartin has joined #polymer[21:31:16] <tmlbl> falteckz: is your input a paper-input? if so i think the 'input' selector could be the issue as the actual html input is encapsulated[21:31:43] <tmlbl> i ran into this with JS trying to exec .focus() method on a paper input..[21:32:23] <falteckz> It's a normal input inside another custom element, so yes it's encapsulated in a shadow dom. I can use main.css and use this selector[21:32:26] <tmlbl> ended up having to do this: searchInput.$.decorator.input.focus();[21:32:32] <falteckz> html /deep/ influx-title-bar[focused] /deep/ influx-title-search::shadow #searchbox[21:32:37] <falteckz> That works fine ^ from main.css[21:32:42] <falteckz> But I wanted to keep that file mostly empty[21:32:46] <tmlbl> right[21:33:34] <falteckz> the searchBox is in fact the input tag, I've just put an id on it as it's more specific.[21:33:50] <falteckz> Either way, I can access it by using ::shadow, and reach it with /deep/[21:34:13] <tmlbl> i too am confused as to the exact mechanism of :host[21:34:36] <falteckz> I originally thought it was a simple replace, but now I'm not sure[21:35:01] <falteckz> I interpretted it as applying a global style where :host was replaced with a unique selector that matches the host component.[21:35:11] <falteckz> Such as it's tag name[21:35:26] <falteckz> This is what was represented in the docs, replacing it with x-foo[21:35:30] <falteckz> Perhaps the docs are misleading[21:35:44] <tmlbl> perhaps as a polyfill it does a replace but i would think with native web components support it does something more... nuanced[21:36:41] <falteckz> Yeah I suspect that might be the case, using only Chrome, the behaviour might be different from the polyfill[21:38:00] *** daveyjoe has joined #polymer[21:38:57] *** wprater has joined #polymer[21:57:45] *** daveyjoe has quit IRC[22:04:42] *** germ13 has quit IRC[22:07:48] *** Schtive has quit IRC[22:16:06] *** caitp has quit IRC[22:20:21] *** germ13 has joined #polymer[22:21:47] *** caitp has joined #polymer[22:26:26] *** caitp has quit IRC[22:28:46] *** skift has quit IRC[22:32:31] *** shiftins has quit IRC[22:33:24] *** shiftins has joined #polymer[22:34:16] *** rainabba has quit IRC[22:41:48] *** olavnymoen has quit IRC[22:47:28] *** caitp has joined #polymer[22:52:47] *** caitp has quit IRC[22:52:53] *** falteckz has quit IRC[22:56:13] *** albeec13 has joined #polymer[22:56:33] <albeec13> can anyone explain why a /deep/ selector wouldn't work inside a polymer element[22:56:38] <albeec13> https://www.polymer-project.org/docs/elements/paper-elements.html#paper-input-decorator[22:57:22] <albeec13> ^i'm trying to use one of these and adding the recommended style selectors to change the internal label-text colors, but it appears to have no effect whatsoever[22:57:39] <albeec13> i'm using: "paper-input-decorator /deep/ .label-text"[22:57:51] <albeec13> inside of my own custom polymer element[22:59:09] *** dc_ has quit IRC[23:00:46] *** rigor789 is now known as rigor789|away[23:04:10] *** mxmxmx has quit IRC[23:04:59] <albeec13> i shouldn't have to use shim-shadowdom inside an element right?[23:07:23] <albeec13> anbody?[23:07:35] <albeec13> shim-shadowdom doesn't make a difference either[23:12:18] *** caitp has joined #polymer[23:20:22] *** apham has joined #polymer[23:21:33] *** apham is now known as andypham[23:22:37] *** stevewirts has quit IRC[23:23:11] *** stevewirts has joined #polymer[23:24:43] <albeec13> can anyone explain why this selector wouldn't work inside a custom element?[23:24:44] <albeec13> paper-input-decorator /deep/ .label-text {[23:24:44] <albeec13> color: rgb(48,153,48);[23:24:45] <albeec13> }[23:24:55] *** stevewirts has quit IRC[23:25:22] <albeec13> it's supposed style all .label-text elements inside the paper-input-decorator with a desired color, just like the example documentation recommends[23:25:29] <albeec13> but it does nothing for me[23:28:26] *** caitp has quit IRC[23:29:37] *** dc has joined #polymer[23:32:21] *** github has joined #polymer[23:32:21] <github> [polymer] sorvell pushed 1 new commit to 0.8-preview: http://git.io/FNhP0Q[23:32:21] <github> polymer/0.8-preview 76757d5 Steve Orvell: update api based on `ready` feature name change.[23:32:21] *** github has left #polymer[23:33:47] <Zer000> Hello. I'm looking at how the paper components are made and I see that paper-tabs (paper-tabs.html) link a css file right in the <template>. My question is if there's anything special about putting it inside the template tag rather than the top. Also that css file uses some non-standard selectors like "polyfill-next-selector" how does that get resolved?[23:33:55] *** andypham has quit IRC[23:38:09] *** manuelbieh has quit IRC[23:42:31] *** wilsonpage has joined #polymer[23:43:15] <albeec13> Zer000: platform.js uses polyfills to parse the non-standard collectors[23:45:06] *** dc has quit IRC[23:45:42] *** dc_ has joined #polymer[23:45:49] *** hareth has quit IRC[23:47:19] <Zer000> albeec13, oh ok