November 16, 2014 
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November 16, 2014 [00:01:10] *** bender_unit has quit IRC[00:02:37] *** edrocks has quit IRC[00:08:39] *** bender_unit has joined #polymer[00:11:53] *** jarek has quit IRC[00:22:07] *** bender_unit has quit IRC[00:35:32] *** germ13 has quit IRC[00:44:14] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[00:48:48] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[01:03:57] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[01:09:52] *** wartdev has quit IRC[01:09:54] *** lholmquist has joined #polymer[01:15:26] *** patrickarlt has quit IRC[01:28:12] *** h0ru5 has quit IRC[01:41:34] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[01:42:40] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[01:43:21] *** manuelbieh has quit IRC[01:43:35] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[01:44:10] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[01:44:30] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[01:49:03] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[02:03:14] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[02:04:42] *** wartdev has joined #polymer[02:18:22] *** rigor789 is now known as rigor789|away[02:19:07] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[02:20:57] *** edrocks has joined #polymer[02:24:52] *** dc_ has joined #polymer[02:29:48] *** wartdev has quit IRC[03:29:10] *** dc_ has quit IRC[03:32:48] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[03:33:37] *** beardedbuddha has quit IRC[03:36:10] *** github has joined #polymer[03:36:10] <github> [polymer] nevir closed pull request #926: ddddd (master...patch-1) http://git.io/iEj9VQ[03:36:10] *** github has left #polymer[03:37:16] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[03:39:02] *** caitp- has quit IRC[03:40:26] *** caitp has joined #polymer[03:42:15] *** jarek has joined #polymer[03:52:06] *** caitp- has joined #polymer[03:52:17] *** caitp has quit IRC[04:05:55] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[04:29:38] *** jarek has quit IRC[05:06:48] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[05:11:17] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[05:12:10] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[05:21:37] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[05:26:19] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[05:26:28] *** webdesignstudent has joined #polymer[05:26:40] <webdesignstudent> hi guys i dont quiet understand polymer...[05:26:57] <webdesignstudent> is polymer a web app development framework? like Ruby on Rails? or is it frot-end framework.. like Ember?[05:31:45] <locks> it's a front-end framework[05:31:50] <locks> well, a library[05:32:13] <locks> polymer is kind of like web components with sprinkles on top[05:37:39] *** caitp- has quit IRC[05:48:04] *** webdesignstudent has quit IRC[06:15:51] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[06:20:12] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[06:27:20] *** caitp has joined #polymer[06:32:40] *** caitp has quit IRC[06:43:18] *** germ13 has joined #polymer[07:10:04] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[07:14:27] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[07:36:00] *** edrocks has quit IRC[07:37:59] *** martianboy has joined #polymer[07:51:34] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[08:43:56] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[09:02:33] *** edrocks has joined #polymer[09:20:17] *** borgenk_ has quit IRC[09:26:05] *** edrocks has quit IRC[09:28:54] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[09:40:54] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[10:03:59] *** max96at|off is now known as max96at[10:06:53] *** rabisg is now known as zz_rabisg[10:07:28] *** Rastus_Vernon has quit IRC[10:14:41] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[10:16:45] *** zz_rabisg is now known as rabisg[10:18:57] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[10:28:48] *** hareth has joined #polymer[10:39:46] *** hareth has quit IRC[10:40:38] *** hareth has joined #polymer[10:55:09] *** chaosfisch has joined #polymer[11:01:02] *** hareth has quit IRC[11:07:25] <chaosfisch> how do template ref's work?[11:11:02] *** Megalepozy has joined #polymer[11:13:20] <Megalepozy> I want to develop an hybrid mobile app (using Chrome App for Mobile), I saw Polymer apps examples (Topeka & Padlock) and was very impressed, saying that I do have some concerns that I would like to ask[11:16:14] <Megalepozy> 1. iOS apps r not bundled with the latest Chrome and use Safari, checking the Browser Compatibility table I see that Mobile Safari doesnt support most of the features, I'm afraid that I will release an app and in a month or 2 it will break cause Apple will update Mobile Safari and stop use the pollyfills or something... what's the chances for that? (do Polymer dev's got a preview of the next Mobile Safari in order to check that everything still wor[11:16:15] <Megalepozy> k?)[11:17:55] <Megalepozy> 2. I wanted to use Ionic framework since it's make it so much easier to build the app UI, does Polymer knows how to handle display on mobile in such a manner as well or I need to start and test it on various resolutions and such?[11:19:41] <Megalepozy> got more questions but I feel that I wrote too much already... sorry for that :) anyway any answer will be gr8, thx![11:21:21] <chaosfisch> Megalepozy: I can't answer any of your questions but: 1) Did you try running the Polymer example apps on a mobile safari? Does it work -> then chances are high it won't break in the future. 2) I don't know this framework. Polymer supports development with css flexbox which gives you perfect control and very similiar results on all devices.[11:23:10] <Megalepozy> chaosfisch: 1. yeah I ran padlock on iOS and it was perfect 2. that sounds really good, are there any mobile ready components that I can use? (I need very simple stuff like a menu which slide from the side)[11:24:02] <Megalepozy> btw does Polymer dev team get a preview of Mobile Safari in order to check everything b4 its released to the public?[11:24:22] <Megalepozy> also, u answered the questions quite nicely :)[11:26:13] <chaosfisch> Megalepozy: I don't know any other "mobile ready" components other than https://www.polymer-project.org/docs/elements/. Webcomponents technology is still fairly new, and if it's a commercial product you're going to create, I wouldn't use it right now. Getting started with polymer/web components is difficult at the beginning. You'll need time to get used to and should have tried writting a few examples.[11:27:25] <chaosfisch> However, the end result is very nice, because you have very meaningful (clear and concise) HTML and the built in powerful template bindings.[11:29:17] <chaosfisch> Megalepozy: I hope that answers most of your questions, although this irc exists, I've never seen anyone answer my questions :)[11:29:28] <Megalepozy> chaosfisch: well I need to make a Proof of Concept in about 1-2 months and make that production ready in 2-3 extra months, the app is very simple (menus and such) so I'm not really afraid from the complexities (I don't have to use all capabilities right?), what I am afraid is that the browser will get updated and the app will stop working[11:29:52] <Megalepozy> heheheheh well then maybe u have started a change now :)[11:30:05] <Megalepozy> thx a lot :)[11:31:29] <chaosfisch> Megalepozy: It should continue to work, because it's javascript. https://www.polymer-project.org/resources/compatibility.html I don't know which components are missing / not working in terms of templates, but unless they stop parsing "valid" javascript in safari, it won't break.[11:32:39] <chaosfisch> Maybe try it - if you like it - use it, otherwise take the hybrid app framework.[11:32:53] *** germ13 has quit IRC[11:35:42] <Megalepozy> chaosfisch: hybrid app framework, do u mean the Ionic framework I mentioned b4?[11:36:24] <chaosfisch> Megalepozy: y, or any other framework that serves your requirments.[11:39:48] <Megalepozy> chaosfisch: ah ok, I'll take ur advice, I'll try my luck with Polymer and if I'll have to many problems I'll just fallback to Ionic (or one of its friends)[11:39:56] <Megalepozy> thx again for ur help :)[11:44:28] *** kaos|work has joined #polymer[11:46:34] *** chaosfisch has quit IRC[11:52:08] *** devylon has joined #polymer[11:52:45] *** borgenk has joined #polymer[12:03:33] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[12:07:52] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[12:59:29] *** Schtive has joined #polymer[13:09:09] *** sthzg has joined #polymer[13:09:58] *** devylon has quit IRC[13:11:50] *** sthzg has quit IRC[13:45:03] *** Schtive has quit IRC[13:52:18] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[13:57:16] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[14:00:52] *** rigor789|away is now known as rigor789[14:06:00] *** KennyLee has quit IRC[14:24:15] *** germ13 has joined #polymer[14:25:08] *** hswolff has quit IRC[14:27:32] *** hswolff has joined #polymer[14:46:06] *** KennyLee has joined #polymer[15:03:46] *** dc_ has joined #polymer[15:24:53] *** caitp has joined #polymer[15:41:02] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[15:46:06] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[16:05:32] *** caitp has quit IRC[16:41:47] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[16:46:17] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[17:13:58] *** hareth has joined #polymer[17:27:26] *** arabot1 has joined #polymer[17:27:45] *** arabot1 has left #polymer[17:37:40] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[17:48:40] *** dc_ has quit IRC[18:49:39] *** caitp has joined #polymer[18:52:37] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[18:53:56] *** shiftins has joined #polymer[18:54:12] *** caitp has quit IRC[18:54:55] *** dc_ has joined #polymer[19:03:20] *** shiftins has quit IRC[19:16:54] *** hareth has quit IRC[19:17:36] *** hareth has joined #polymer[19:23:40] *** caitp has joined #polymer[20:05:58] *** KennyLee has quit IRC[20:13:40] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[20:21:44] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[20:24:53] *** manuelbieh has joined #polymer[20:37:37] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[20:46:18] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[21:24:00] *** jcgregorio has quit IRC[21:36:37] *** jcgregorio has joined #polymer[21:50:58] *** Megalepozy has quit IRC[21:52:57] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[21:57:26] *** Phloxx has joined #polymer[21:57:32] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[22:13:19] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[22:25:56] *** Rastus_Vernon has joined #polymer[22:39:22] *** max96at is now known as max96at|off[23:15:59] *** kaos|work has quit IRC[23:38:33] *** edrocks has joined #polymer[23:46:17] *** beardedbuddha has joined #polymer