November 10, 2014 
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:?[09:30:17] *** devylon has joined #polymer[09:36:15] *** hareth has quit IRC[09:49:27] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[09:52:23] *** dark_star has quit IRC[09:52:43] *** kaos|work has joined #polymer[09:52:50] *** borgenk has joined #polymer[09:54:21] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[09:56:52] *** borgenk has quit IRC[10:07:10] *** kaos|work has left #polymer[10:28:26] *** manuelbieh has joined #polymer[10:37:58] *** Schtive has joined #polymer[10:46:31] *** ravenzz has joined #polymer[10:51:03] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[10:55:00] *** august1 has joined #polymer[10:56:21] *** ravenzz has left #polymer[11:26:49] *** maciejpaprocki has joined #polymer[11:30:51] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[11:32:40] *** hareth has joined #polymer[11:38:43] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[11:43:05] *** falood has quit IRC[11:43:12] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[11:45:19] *** Schtive has quit IRC[11:50:55] <hareth> hello[11:53:26] *** oberstet_ has joined #polymer[12:13:08] *** maciejpaprocki has quit IRC[12:18:51] *** dark_star has joined #polymer[12:26:36] *** martianboy has quit IRC[12:31:49] *** prophile has joined #polymer[12:37:04] *** jlebrech has joined #polymer[12:37:50] *** maciejpaprocki has joined #polymer[12:41:04] *** caitp has joined #polymer[12:41:18] *** KennyLee has joined #polymer[12:46:54] *** caitp has quit IRC[12:50:36] *** kaos|work has joined #polymer[12:50:42] *** kaos|work has left #polymer[13:01:35] *** caitp has joined #polymer[13:18:25] *** caitp has quit IRC[13:19:14] *** Swenn has joined #polymer[13:23:16] *** caitp has joined #polymer[13:27:24] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[13:27:55] *** mattyclarkson has joined #polymer[13:30:23] *** borgenk has joined #polymer[13:31:52] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[13:35:06] *** borgenk has quit IRC[13:35:36] *** jlebrech has quit IRC[13:48:26] *** hareth has quit IRC[13:53:06] *** zoechi has joined #polymer[13:55:43] *** hareth has joined #polymer[13:58:08] *** Schtive has joined #polymer[14:00:50] *** jlebrech has joined #polymer[14:13:17] *** pichlermi has quit IRC[14:29:31] *** hswolff has quit IRC[14:30:16] *** hareth has quit IRC[14:31:02] *** hswolff has joined #polymer[14:48:54] *** dc_ has quit IRC[14:48:54] *** lholmquist has joined #polymer[14:54:34] *** lholmquist has quit IRC[14:54:41] *** lholmquist has joined #polymer[14:56:20] *** hareth has joined #polymer[14:57:33] *** hareth has quit IRC[14:58:00] *** hareth has joined #polymer[15:00:36] *** dc_ has joined #polymer[15:00:47] *** friso has joined #polymer[15:02:02] <friso> hi all, does anybody know if I can add custom elements to custom elements dynamically?[15:02:07] <friso> like http://addyosmani.github.io/webcomponent-samples/polymer/modules/[15:02:22] <friso> except that I don't know the tag name in advance[15:02:33] <friso> that's in the result of an ajax call[15:06:45] *** mven has quit IRC[15:09:37] <Jerub> friso: you can just create them with javascript[15:11:31] <friso> I tried, but which document should I use?[15:11:50] <friso> I get errors when I use document.createElement(tagname)[15:12:40] <tgaz> that should work, unless there is something wonky with a polyfill or so[15:13:36] <friso> Uncaught HierarchyRequestError: Failed to execute 'appendChild' on 'Node': Nodes of type 'HTML' may not be inserted inside nodes of type '#document'.[15:14:28] *** knownasilya has joined #polymer[15:16:06] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[15:16:11] *** beardedbuddha has joined #polymer[15:17:14] <beardedbuddha> Hey guys. So what are people using for simple API-style backends these days? I really loved deployd, but I'm not too sure about using a "dead" project..[15:17:43] <beardedbuddha> I've used Azure Mobile Services and Firebase previously, but I didn't especially like any of them[15:20:45] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[15:23:25] <tgaz> i'm on appengine, but i haven't investigated at all. would be interested in hearing what your opinions are on firebase, though.[15:24:05] <beardedbuddha> Well, it's good if you just need to store data. But do not mistake it for a "database"[15:24:25] <beardedbuddha> And, as far as I could figure out, I couldn't define custom API calls[15:24:37] <beardedbuddha> So really bare metal CRUD, nothing else[15:24:44] <beardedbuddha> which might be good for some things[15:24:45] <tgaz> ah, no, i got the impression it's just storage with pubsub[15:24:55] <beardedbuddha> Right. That is also true[15:25:11] <beardedbuddha> I also don't really like that it _only_ works with sockets[15:25:18] <beardedbuddha> no way to just POST some data or GET[15:25:23] <beardedbuddha> from an end-point[15:25:28] <beardedbuddha> you have to go through their javascript[15:25:41] <beardedbuddha> Azure mobile web does a lot more[15:25:48] <beardedbuddha> custom API calls, direct db-interaction[15:26:02] <beardedbuddha> but it's a pain to work with[15:26:17] <tgaz> ah. thanks.[15:26:28] <beardedbuddha> The interface is super sluggish, and I've found no way to debug properly[15:26:39] <beardedbuddha> since you can write your API code directly in the application[15:26:47] <beardedbuddha> using javascript with some special built-in functions[15:27:06] <beardedbuddha> I haven't tried appengine[15:27:20] <beardedbuddha> Is it good?[15:27:44] *** prophile has quit IRC[15:28:41] <tgaz> you write go/java/python, use a YAML file for routing. limited in that it doesn't support long-term operations, but i think it's nice. good datastore API (at least from Go).[15:29:14] <tgaz> but my usecases are small things, so i can't say anything about larger projects.[15:29:58] <tgaz> (and i'm slightly biased company-wise. ;)[15:30:47] <beardedbuddha> Well, on my "larger things", I don't get to decide. But I often create small applications for myself[15:31:01] <beardedbuddha> and I was just about to start work on a new one, and need a simple API to store some data[15:31:24] <beardedbuddha> And then remembered the last time[15:31:45] <beardedbuddha> when I ended up writing some abomination of an API in PHP, just to get the flexibility and ease I wanted[15:32:54] *** mven has joined #polymer[15:33:24] <beardedbuddha> Shouldn't Google release something with Google-level polish?[15:33:30] <beardedbuddha> And have it work nicely with Polymer?[15:36:40] *** falood has joined #polymer[15:37:23] <tgaz> good question. given appengine, i'm not sure there is much more needed in terms of integration. <core-ajax> is lacking (e.g. retry logic), but otherwise it's probably close. something to write directly to datastore from polymer would be nice, i guess.[15:37:57] <tgaz> the only thing i really dislike about appengine is the lack of support for websockets. appengine has a "channels api", but it uses once-a-second polling.[15:38:09] <beardedbuddha> Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of a "no backend" solution[15:38:45] <beardedbuddha> Since, as far as I can tell, App Engine still requires a local backend[15:38:54] <beardedbuddha> (to interface with App Engine)[15:38:57] <tgaz> sounds like a good project. i haven't heard anything from the polymer devs about it.[15:39:03] <tgaz> yepp[15:40:36] <beardedbuddha> Are you with Google?[15:41:02] <tgaz> yes, but not even on the same continent as polymer devs.[15:41:10] <beardedbuddha> Ah..![15:41:16] <tgaz> i just happen to like polymer :)[15:41:28] <beardedbuddha> Who wouldn't![15:41:37] <beardedbuddha> Well, I guess the ReactJS people wouldn't[15:42:28] <beardedbuddha> But to be honest, what I like most about polymer, is that it will probably be maintained for a while[15:43:00] <tgaz> I hope so. I still wonder how it ties in with Angular, given they do similar things.[15:43:32] <beardedbuddha> That's true, but I see Polymer as more "focused"[15:44:03] <tgaz> yeah, i never touched angular. felt too big. did knockout before polymer.[15:44:05] <beardedbuddha> And to me, it just makes more sense. I really struggled to work with Angular[15:44:14] <tgaz> though, i don't see what the layout attributes are doing in polymer core.[15:44:36] <beardedbuddha> I guess because they're not quite paper[15:44:44] <beardedbuddha> and there's no "middle ground"[15:44:50] <beardedbuddha> right now, at least[15:45:20] <beardedbuddha> The great thing about Polymer, though, is that it would be easy to just move them[15:45:51] <beardedbuddha> without having to worry too much about semantics[15:46:39] <beardedbuddha> of course, maybe it would be annoying to have to import them all the time[15:47:04] <beardedbuddha> But it wouldn't be too bad, if they were bundled with some other "styling logic" things[15:47:58] <tgaz> yepp[15:48:09] <tgaz> and polymer is about modularity, so would have fit nicely.[15:48:20] <tgaz> i assume there are "technical reasons"[15:48:38] <beardedbuddha> right[15:52:07] *** zoechi has quit IRC[15:55:07] <beardedbuddha> tgaz, and thanks for answering, btw. I usually find this channel pretty quiet, considering the amount of people who are in here[15:55:52] *** hareth has quit IRC[15:57:12] *** carlosmantilla has joined #polymer[15:57:40] *** patrickarlt has joined #polymer[16:00:17] *** friso has quit IRC[16:01:30] *** Swenn_ has joined #polymer[16:03:40] *** Swenn has quit IRC[16:04:59] *** ddadlani has joined #polymer[16:08:17] *** hareth has joined #polymer[16:16:46] *** falood has quit IRC[16:42:30] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[16:46:53] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[16:52:01] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[16:53:29] *** hareth has quit IRC[16:56:02] *** carlosmantilla has quit IRC[17:01:21] *** maciejpa_ has joined #polymer[17:03:34] *** maciejpaprocki has quit IRC[17:07:49] *** borgenk has joined #polymer[17:11:58] *** borgenk has quit IRC[17:13:57] <tgaz> beardedbuddha, yepp, locality is a problem. thanks for the firebase insights.[17:14:52] *** sourcecube has quit IRC[17:15:37] *** darktears has joined #polymer[17:16:38] *** hareth has joined #polymer[17:36:01] *** mven has quit IRC[17:41:48] *** prophile has joined #polymer[17:43:27] *** mven has joined #polymer[17:43:59] *** jcgregorio has joined #polymer[17:51:16] *** ryst has quit IRC[18:01:06] *** mven has quit IRC[18:04:53] *** ryst has joined #polymer[18:06:09] *** mven has joined #polymer[18:09:34] *** sabotage has joined #polymer[18:09:38] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[18:14:06] *** cnbuff410 has quit IRC[18:19:29] *** dcherman has joined #polymer[18:42:29] *** hareth has quit IRC[18:47:12] *** Swenn_ has quit IRC[18:47:17] *** Swenn has joined #polymer[18:48:23] *** cnbuff410 has joined #polymer[18:59:28] *** wprater has joined #polymer[19:00:39] *** Schtive has quit IRC[19:04:04] *** manuelbieh has quit IRC[19:05:19] *** jlebrech has quit IRC[19:12:07] *** mven has quit IRC[19:17:58] *** Oshg has joined #polymer[19:19:59] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[19:23:09] *** prophile has quit IRC[19:26:49] *** dc_ has quit IRC[19:27:27] *** manuelbieh has joined #polymer[19:28:03] *** phpnode has quit IRC[19:28:30] *** KennyLee has quit IRC[19:30:21] *** ryst has quit IRC[19:43:43] *** ryst has joined #polymer[19:51:30] *** lfryc has quit IRC[19:52:30] *** phpnode has joined #polymer[19:59:57] *** Schtive has joined #polymer[20:03:04] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[20:05:34] *** munumnu has joined #polymer[20:06:47] *** munumnu has quit IRC[20:07:59] *** mven has joined #polymer[20:09:39] *** munumnu has joined #polymer[20:16:09] *** munumnu has quit IRC[20:17:04] *** maciejpa_ has quit IRC[20:18:25] *** oberstet_ has quit IRC[20:20:03] *** maciejpaprocki has joined #polymer[20:22:41] *** Swenn has quit IRC[20:22:49] *** github has joined #polymer[20:22:50] <github> [polymer] azakus pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/dQTM8Q[20:22:50] <github> polymer/master 7f93ca0 Daniel Freedman: copy readme on build[20:22:50] *** github has left #polymer[20:28:51] *** mven has quit IRC[20:31:09] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[20:35:46] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[20:40:06] *** maciejpaprocki has quit IRC[20:41:31] *** scruffydan has joined #polymer[20:43:36] *** dc_ has joined #polymer[20:53:24] *** tjpeden has joined #polymer[20:54:28] <tjpeden> I'm having trouble with the core-submenu not lining up with normal menu items in a core-menu, any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?[20:55:46] <tjpeden> Here's my markup: https://gist.github.com/tpeden/bc056648e824a9d3a1d1[20:58:37] *** github has joined #polymer[20:58:38] <github> [polymer] azakus pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/9_PJEw[20:58:38] <github> polymer/master 196a392 Daniel Freedman: Strip multiple license banners from dist/polymer.js...[20:58:38] *** github has left #polymer[20:58:38] *** hareth has joined #polymer[21:00:16] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[21:00:27] *** hareth has quit IRC[21:01:05] *** hareth has joined #polymer[21:03:08] *** jyasskin has joined #polymer[21:39:26] *** caitp- has joined #polymer[21:40:19] *** caitp has quit IRC[21:45:13] *** max96at is now known as max96at|off[21:50:57] *** hareth has quit IRC[22:05:01] *** jyasskin_w has joined #polymer[22:12:24] *** hareth has joined #polymer[22:13:45] *** bender_unit has joined #polymer[22:17:16] *** kaos|work has joined #polymer[22:27:44] *** jarek has joined #polymer[22:34:14] *** borgenk has joined #polymer[22:38:30] *** borgenk has quit IRC[22:40:23] *** oberstet has joined #polymer[22:44:35] *** oberstet has quit IRC[23:07:26] *** Schtive has quit IRC[23:12:13] *** dc_ has quit IRC[23:14:27] <tjpeden> Anybody?[23:25:00] *** ddadlani has quit IRC[23:35:50] *** jarek has quit IRC[23:46:08] <Jerub> tjpeden: you haven't changed any CSS there, so it could line up okay[23:46:18] <Jerub> submenu items do indent.[23:46:33] <Jerub> and i think core-submenu uses core-item instead of paper-item as its menu item[23:48:54] *** jarek has joined #polymer[23:49:21] *** kaos|work has quit IRC[23:59:05] *** bender_unit has quit IRC