March 18, 2019 
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ZZZzzz…)[17:04:05] *** disposable2 <disposable2!~Thunderbi@213.164.31.89> has quit IRC (Quit: disposable2)[18:08:00] *** tgunr <tgunr!~davec@47.152.8.89> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:02:05] *** bn_work <bn_work!uid268505@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cfzhzdyssqeyblhg> has joined #openzfs[19:08:36] *** sindan <sindan!~admin@125.red-81-42-200.staticip.rima-tde.net> has joined #openzfs[19:10:26] <sindan> If zfs recv would destroy snapshots that are held, will the recv fail completely or will it just inhibit the destruction and keep working?[19:11:44] <monsted> it stops[19:12:52] <sindan> that's sad[19:13:01] <monsted> no, that's good[19:13:31] <monsted> well, not that zfs receive would ever destroy snapshots anyway[19:15:00] <sindan> what do you mean? a replication stream will destroy snapshots that are not at the source[19:15:25] <monsted> odd, i seem to have a lot of snapshots that are only on the destination.[19:16:11] <monsted> though those are all older than what comes in as part of the backup[19:17:49] <sindan> when recv reads a replication stream the two pools will end up being the same[19:18:33] <sindan> you can't have different things on both sides[19:18:47] <monsted> most people wouldn't use replication streams[19:19:57] <sindan> so you reply based on your idea of what "most people" do.[19:20:36] <monsted> i reply on the basis of never having heard of replication streams in use and thus forgetting they exist[19:21:38] <sindan> You should mayb know more before stating "not that zfs receive would ever destroy snapshots anyway"[19:22:23] <monsted> i'm very sorry. you can write a letter to my boss and ask for your money back.[19:23:02] *** elxa <elxa!~elxa@2a01:5c0:e089:8ea1:2044:95af:6be1:85a7> has joined #openzfs[19:23:07] * sarnold leaves a bad yelp review[19:24:40] <sindan> Oh now he tries to be funny. You made a false statement, and then use poor reasoning like "Oh I never heard of them". So your ignorance and your arrogance when called up on it is justification for continuing being an ignorant.[19:24:57] <sindan> Since you are not a developer I don't need to talk to you.[19:25:06] <monsted> then don't.[19:28:56] <sindan> There are smart people here. You are not one of them. Since I don't have a problem admitting my ignorance I asked in case you knew more than me. But your toxic behaviour trying to ridicule someone when it's you who gets things wrong means that no, I won't talk to you anymore.[19:30:41] <monsted> and yet you still do.[19:32:29] <DHE> a "replication stream" is 'zfs send -R' and when combined with -F on the receiver side will absolutely destroy snapshots on the receiver side no longer present on the sender side[19:35:02] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:40:14] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openzfs[20:21:02] *** elxa <elxa!~elxa@2a01:5c0:e089:8ea1:2044:95af:6be1:85a7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:42:28] *** tgunr <tgunr!~davec@47.152.8.89> has joined #openzfs[20:55:17] *** donhw <donhw!~quassel@host-184-167-36-51.jcs-wy.client.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:11:22] *** poots <poots!pengc99@charlie.tacocat.org> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:11:46] *** poots <poots!pengc99@charlie.tacocat.org> has joined #openzfs[21:17:37] *** donhw <donhw!~quassel@host-184-167-36-51.jcs-wy.client.bresnan.net> has joined #openzfs[21:55:31] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:05:28] *** michaeldexter <michaeldexter!~michaelde@om126034126218.18.openmobile.ne.jp> has joined #openzfs[22:11:36] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openzfs[22:17:47] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #openzfs[22:20:52] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:22:04] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:54:25] *** michaeldexter <michaeldexter!~michaelde@om126034126218.18.openmobile.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: michaeldexter)[23:44:17] *** likewhoa <likewhoa!~likewhoa@s2.maserver.com> has quit IRC (Quit: speed of coding, not speed of code)[23:44:38] *** likewhoa <likewhoa!~likewhoa@s2.maserver.com> has joined #openzfs[23:59:41] *** likewhoa <likewhoa!~likewhoa@s2.maserver.com> has quit IRC (Quit: speed of coding, not speed of code)