November 30, 2012 
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jamesd[15:16:52] *** tsoome has quit IRC[15:35:11] *** alhazred has quit IRC[15:53:53] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[16:12:10] *** fisted has quit IRC[16:12:24] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[16:32:51] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[16:46:37] *** alanc has quit IRC[17:09:26] *** kcrowe has joined #opensolaris[17:09:38] *** tdowg1 has joined #opensolaris[17:21:06] *** basic6 has joined #opensolaris[17:21:26] <basic6> what's the solaris version of ps -fu $USER (to list ALL processes of that user)?[17:25:03] <Triskelios> still ps -fu <user>[17:34:29] <tomww> or pgrep -u $USER or pgrep -l -u $USER[17:34:34] <tomww> runs quicker[17:34:44] <tomww> eventually[17:41:55] *** CosmicDJ has quit IRC[17:52:38] *** jfisc has quit IRC[17:53:22] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[17:56:07] *** LucidDreamZzZ has quit IRC[17:56:57] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[17:56:57] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[17:57:57] *** LucidDreamZzZ has joined #opensolaris[18:01:03] *** WormDrink has quit IRC[18:03:36] *** CosmicDJ has joined #opensolaris[18:04:12] *** alanc has joined #opensolaris[18:04:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[18:04:24] *** LucidDreamZzZ has quit IRC[18:06:02] *** LucidDreamZzZ has joined #opensolaris[18:08:04] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[18:08:07] *** fisted has quit IRC[18:08:07] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[18:09:26] *** fisted has quit IRC[18:10:19] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[18:29:24] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[18:36:16] *** chris64 has quit IRC[18:36:35] *** SonikkuAmerica has joined #opensolaris[18:38:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Who here actually switched from OpenSolaris to Solaris 10/11.x after Osol's closure?[18:40:09] *** LucidDreamZzZ has quit IRC[18:40:49] <Alasdairrr> SonikkuAmerica: A large number of us switched to illumos based distros[18:41:00] <Alasdairrr> Like SmartOS, OpenIndiana, OmniOS[18:41:32] *** LucidDreamZzZ has joined #opensolaris[18:41:35] <Alasdairrr> Solaris 10 & 11 are commercial closed source distros, not very community friendly really[18:43:42] <SonikkuAmerica> I used OI for a while but vanilla Solaris can be used with a lot of technical know-how though[18:44:01] <Alasdairrr> If you like paying[18:44:13] <Alasdairrr> its like, $1000 per socket per year[18:44:22] <Alasdairrr> for non-Oracle hardware[18:44:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Free w/o security updates though... given that they turn new releases out as frequently as they are...[18:44:59] <Alasdairrr> Also Oracle Solaris 11 doesn't have KVM or Sparse Zones, or ZFS feature flags, or ZFS IO fair share scheduler[18:45:12] <SonikkuAmerica> This is true[18:45:14] <Alasdairrr> SonikkuAmerica: that's for non-production use, testing only[18:45:33] <SonikkuAmerica> I don't have a production machine to run it on.[18:46:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Although I might try my luck with illumin[18:46:09] <SonikkuAmerica> *Illumian[18:48:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Besides, I'm only using it for non-commercial app development and source-build conversion anyway[18:52:15] <Alasdairrr> ahh[18:52:19] <Alasdairrr> I'm very anti-Oracle[18:52:44] <Alasdairrr> I also have no faith in Nexenta to be able to deliver Illumian, I'd highly recommend OmniOS if you want a traditional OS to install for server use[18:52:50] *** wermel has quit IRC[18:52:53] <Alasdairrr> or OI for desktop/general purpose[18:53:07] *** SonikkuAmerica has quit IRC[18:53:25] <Alasdairrr> or SmartOS if you like learning and want the best platform for running VMs/Zones[18:53:41] <jamesd> my OI is doing fine for fileserver... just haven't got AD domain joined yet... but everything else is fine[18:53:54] <Alasdairrr> As someone who was indirectly involved with Illumian via illumos-userland, I think it's basically stillborn[18:55:53] <richlowe> I always say to people "Go ask Nexenta, it's all them"[18:55:57] <richlowe> strictly true, saves time[18:56:46] *** TomJ has quit IRC[18:58:31] <Alasdairrr> Nexenta's problem is that they don't have strong leadership with a vision and a plan on how to implement it. They keep changing direction and chaos ensues.[19:00:49] <jamesd> apt-get was supposed to work more smoothly but as soon as you add a package or two, it breaks the upgrade path... and its python CLI is total bloatware that feels extremely slow.[19:12:11] <Alasdairrr> pkg works exceptionally well for me, i don't get why people have an issue with it unless they're running old hardware, like a P4 or SPARC[19:12:44] <Alasdairrr> On any modern E55xx or newer Xeon its perfectly fast[19:13:17] *** WormDrink has joined #opensolaris[19:13:17] *** WormDrink has joined #opensolaris[19:13:18] <Alasdairrr> but then i've taken the time to get to grips with it, i understand how it's designed, why it is the way it is, etc[19:36:06] *** fisted has quit IRC[19:46:38] <jamesd> Alasdairrr, i ran it on my 1.5ghz turion dual core with 8GB of memory... and its not hard to put a candy coating on the ZFS command set hell its allready dead simple by design[19:50:53] <jamesd> shows how to create two nics.. you can probably leave off the failover part if you dont need it[19:51:11] <jamesd> gotta go bbl[19:51:37] *** bigjohnto has quit IRC[19:52:49] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[19:53:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[19:56:32] *** kcrowe has quit IRC[19:56:36] *** seanmcg has quit IRC[19:56:38] *** IDoNotKnow has quit IRC[20:02:02] *** kcrowe has joined #opensolaris[20:02:03] *** seanmcg has joined #opensolaris[20:02:03] *** IDoNotKnow has joined #opensolaris[20:05:43] *** lewellyn has quit IRC[20:19:42] *** lewellyn has joined #opensolaris[20:19:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o lewellyn[21:00:58] *** loganbr`` has quit IRC[21:01:29] *** wereHamster has quit IRC[21:02:49] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[21:04:57] *** wereHamster has joined #opensolaris[21:08:06] *** antisoshel has joined #opensolaris[21:10:00] *** wereHamster has quit IRC[21:11:14] *** wereHamster has joined #opensolaris[21:14:39] *** antisoshel has quit IRC[21:34:27] *** hermo has joined #opensolaris[21:37:52] *** yippi has quit IRC[21:38:31] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[21:54:52] *** wereHamster has quit IRC[21:54:53] *** wereHamster has joined #opensolaris[22:03:43] *** jamesd has quit IRC[22:09:00] *** tdowg1 has quit IRC[22:21:33] *** maccampus has quit IRC[22:32:51] *** loganbr`` has joined #opensolaris[22:38:23] *** gwr has quit IRC[23:03:17] *** WormDrink has quit IRC