October 17, 2011 
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#opensolaris[19:48:32] <smiley_> morning[19:50:25] <smiley_> I have Permanent errors on the following files 'smbpool/glusterfs:<0x621b67>' in zfs...as far as I can tell the files are really no longer there...should I be worried about this[19:51:47] <smiley_> I have played iwth zdb to see if I could track down the files/directories in question...I am not sure if I should be concerned or not[19:53:00] *** Z` has joined #opensolaris[19:54:34] <Triskelios> smiley_: that usually means the file/directory is deleted. clear and re-run scrub[19:54:53] *** richlowe has quit IRC[19:55:16] <smiley_> I have tried clear and rescrub several times and it always comes back[19:55:21] *** Gugge has joined #opensolaris[19:55:34] <smiley_> well...not comes back...never goes away[19:55:59] *** richlowe has joined #opensolaris[19:56:11] <smiley_> also when I try to do a scrub...the status is resilver in progress...not 'scrub'[19:57:03] <smiley_> it it just keep resilvering the same few disks everytime...it 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michael is now known as Guest32161[22:23:56] *** smaresca has quit IRC[22:31:38] <lblume> Install a supported version, and you can hope to get answers from people who are developing zfs.[22:32:18] <lblume> Having a weird issues on an obsolete system that's not much used anymore is not the best way to get work done :-/[22:32:44] <smiley_> yeah we have 25TB of data on these servers.....so moving things around is not my first option....but thanks[22:33:13] <smiley_> well what version of os are you using?[22:33:48] <lblume> Why move things around? You can do some upgrades. If you have 25TB of really important data, giving some money to Oracle is of little matter[22:34:20] <smiley_> well what version are you suggesting...that is what I am trying to figure out?[22:34:27] <lblume> For production, I'm using S10. I've always advocated that Osol and now S11X/EA are not production ready.[22:34:48] <smiley_> that is what I thought...so I did not really consider them options[22:35:09] <lblume> So yes, S10 seems like the safest choice if you have not come to depend on some osol quirks.[22:35:12] <tsoome> production readyness is kind of funny term tho[22:35:21] <lblume> Well, you *are* running Osol, so....[22:35:46] <RoyK> a 'stable' OI is in the works, though, but then, the support you'll get on OI will be community support, so when the shit hits the fan, it'll probably hit you alone :P[22:36:33] <lblume> tsoome: "Production-ready" == "you cannot be personnally blamed"[22:36:34] <lblume> :-D[22:36:38] <tsoome> kernel in s10u10 did introduce several bugs in scsi_vhci, one of them will prevent you to run system with HDS midrange array attached, and there is still no patch for the bug. there is IDR tho.[22:37:01] <RoyK> IDR?[22:37:06] <lblume> Yeah, I am not overly happy with S10 atm :-/[22:37:10] <tsoome> "test" patch[22:37:18] <RoyK> k[22:37:41] <lblume> But in S10, there *is* an insurance that things will get fixed. So if they don't, only Oracle can be blamed.[22:37:42] <RoyK> something like microsoft's 'hotfixes'?[22:37:48] <tsoome> IDR is in form of patch, but addressing specific issue[22:38:17] <tsoome> its not really hotfix, its more like temporary fix is you are really in trouble[22:38:24] <lblume> RoyK: t-patches, look like regular patches, but they are not guaranteed. Most of the time they must be removed later[22:38:33] <RoyK> lblume: but if your server is down for a week or two, I guess their EULA perfectly states that they cannot be blamed :P[22:39:13] <RoyK> lblume: sounds like hotfixes - you have to sign an agreement with M$ to get them and that agreement says something like 'well, if works, cool!'[22:39:50] <lblume> Yes, like that. t-patches are delivered to specific customers with an urgent need[22:39:52] <timsf> usually it's a specific patch for a specific customer too[22:39:54] <timsf> right[22:39:58] <tsoome> ah, ok, so yea, its like hotfix then (except I never had to sign anything:)[22:40:08] <lblume> Usually they are replaced later with a regular patch. But *much* later.[22:40:24] <lblume> tsoome: t-patches have different licenses[22:42:46] *** bradend has quit IRC[22:44:14] <tsoome> I had a bit of cultural shock today with cloning my MBP boot disk:D[22:46:15] <lblume> why?[22:46:25] <tsoome> well....[22:47:31] <fec> anyone know if you can direct attach a IBM exp700 to a host with HBA's?[22:49:09] <RoyK> fec: isn't that just a FC chassis?[22:49:15] <tsoome> got an new disk for it, so i did shut down; replaced disk; connected old via usb, boot from recovery slice on usb; disk tool, set label; recover and after few hours, reboot computer, disconnect usb and ready. no fdsik, no format; no funny commands, no installgrub, no funny device names:D[22:50:28] <tsoome> if its able to recognise FC loop, it may be possible, it really depends[22:56:18] *** randw has quit IRC[22:57:32] *** Silikon has quit IRC[22:58:33] * RoyK is off to bed - later, guys[22:58:46] *** bradend has joined #opensolaris[23:07:16] *** smrt has quit IRC[23:07:30] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[23:13:49] *** thuttu77 has quit IRC[23:22:01] *** pothos_ has joined #opensolaris[23:23:58] *** pothos has quit IRC[23:24:06] *** pothos_ is now known as pothos[23:36:58] *** thuttu77 has joined #opensolaris[23:52:22] *** szaydel has quit IRC[23:54:01] *** Mdx4 has quit IRC[23:58:44] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris